<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Daily Links: Real World Edition</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2009/03/30/daily-links-real-world-edition/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2009/03/30/daily-links-real-world-edition/</link>
	<description>Common sense advice on money saving tips, how to get out of debt, high interest savings accounts, cd rates, money market accounts, mortgage rates, money management and more.</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Sat, 25 May 2013 17:04:08 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: Joy</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2009/03/30/daily-links-real-world-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-174243</link>
		<dc:creator>Joy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 04:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/?p=3327#comment-174243</guid>
		<description>Thanks for the articles. 

I wanted to add something to the help for the unemployed article as well - this one had lots of good information, but left out the Self Employment Assistance Program.  I&#039;ve recently been accepted into it and it basically allows you to continue receiving the unemployment benefits you qualify for while starting your own business.  I&#039;ve written more about it on &lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.redefining-unemployment.net/2009/03/08/self-employment-assistance-program/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Redefining Unemployment&lt;/a&gt;.

As for the real world - I basically agree with the author as that&#039;s how I&#039;ve been living all along. But I don&#039;t like the dichotomy Chris sets up about the &quot;real&quot; world and the &quot;living&quot; world.  Some people like the way it works in the real world - and that&#039;s fine for them.  Some of us make other choices, and that&#039;s fine for us.  Rather than accusing someone of being a &quot;sleepwalker&quot; I think it&#039;s better to make our own nonconformist choices, thus subtly changing the world we ALL live in.  Then, we can show by example that it&#039;s possible to have a good life without &quot;taking the blue pill.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the articles. </p>
<p>I wanted to add something to the help for the unemployed article as well &#8211; this one had lots of good information, but left out the Self Employment Assistance Program.  I&#8217;ve recently been accepted into it and it basically allows you to continue receiving the unemployment benefits you qualify for while starting your own business.  I&#8217;ve written more about it on <a href="http://blog.redefining-unemployment.net/2009/03/08/self-employment-assistance-program/" rel="nofollow">Redefining Unemployment</a>.</p>
<p>As for the real world &#8211; I basically agree with the author as that&#8217;s how I&#8217;ve been living all along. But I don&#8217;t like the dichotomy Chris sets up about the &#8220;real&#8221; world and the &#8220;living&#8221; world.  Some people like the way it works in the real world &#8211; and that&#8217;s fine for them.  Some of us make other choices, and that&#8217;s fine for us.  Rather than accusing someone of being a &#8220;sleepwalker&#8221; I think it&#8217;s better to make our own nonconformist choices, thus subtly changing the world we ALL live in.  Then, we can show by example that it&#8217;s possible to have a good life without &#8220;taking the blue pill.&#8221;</p>
<div id="placeholer-like-174243" class="likediv"><p>loading....</p></div>]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Marie</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2009/03/30/daily-links-real-world-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-174224</link>
		<dc:creator>Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 00:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/?p=3327#comment-174224</guid>
		<description>Kevin, 

I&#039;ve learned the hard way that just because someone has seen more moons than you doesn&#039;t automatically give them enlightenment. Their advice can suck as much as the next person. The point of the piece, that &quot;reality&quot; is largely shaped by individual perception,  explains why so many people succeed at remaining clueless as they age.

In a similar vein, anyone who demands respect based on age is circumspect. Respect is earned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin, </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve learned the hard way that just because someone has seen more moons than you doesn&#8217;t automatically give them enlightenment. Their advice can suck as much as the next person. The point of the piece, that &#8220;reality&#8221; is largely shaped by individual perception,  explains why so many people succeed at remaining clueless as they age.</p>
<p>In a similar vein, anyone who demands respect based on age is circumspect. Respect is earned.</p>
<div id="placeholer-like-174224" class="likediv"><p>loading....</p></div>]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Lucky</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2009/03/30/daily-links-real-world-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-174202</link>
		<dc:creator>Lucky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/?p=3327#comment-174202</guid>
		<description>I&#039;ve gotta speak up in defense of the &quot;Real World&quot; post.  

I loosely follow that blog, and I can&#039;t recall a time when Chris has advised being irresponsible.  He &lt;i&gt;has&lt;/i&gt; advised considering your priorities and going after what you REALLY want.

Would you trade a $30,000 SUV to travel the world/start a band/write a book instead?  Would you be willing to find alternate income streams to keep a roof over your head while you&#039;re at it?

Furthermore, in that post he isn&#039;t telling people to disregard reality.  He&#039;s not telling people to disregard hard-won widsom.  He &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; telling people to disregard naysayers who are really just raining on your parade.

Seth Godin (who has probably been told once or twice his ideas wouldn&#039;t work in the real world) says &quot;Shun the unbelievers.&quot;  Chris&#039;s post says the same thing in a different way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve gotta speak up in defense of the &#8220;Real World&#8221; post.  </p>
<p>I loosely follow that blog, and I can&#8217;t recall a time when Chris has advised being irresponsible.  He <i>has</i> advised considering your priorities and going after what you REALLY want.</p>
<p>Would you trade a $30,000 SUV to travel the world/start a band/write a book instead?  Would you be willing to find alternate income streams to keep a roof over your head while you&#8217;re at it?</p>
<p>Furthermore, in that post he isn&#8217;t telling people to disregard reality.  He&#8217;s not telling people to disregard hard-won widsom.  He <i>is</i> telling people to disregard naysayers who are really just raining on your parade.</p>
<p>Seth Godin (who has probably been told once or twice his ideas wouldn&#8217;t work in the real world) says &#8220;Shun the unbelievers.&#8221;  Chris&#8217;s post says the same thing in a different way.</p>
<div id="placeholer-like-174202" class="likediv"><p>loading....</p></div>]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: La BellaDonna</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2009/03/30/daily-links-real-world-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-174201</link>
		<dc:creator>La BellaDonna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/?p=3327#comment-174201</guid>
		<description>Count me in with Kevin, Davidson and Omer; I found the post to be extremely smug and self-satisfied; the author&#039;s tone implied that HE had found the way, the truth, and the light, and those of us whose experience may differ are just wrong, wrong, wrong! 

I think The Real World is, in fact, different for &lt;i&gt;everyone.&lt;/i&gt;  J.D., your friend spent his life traveling the world; had he waited until retirement, he would never have traveled at all, because his life ended suddenly.  My mother waited patiently through her marriage for the time when my father would retire, and they would finally have time together.  He died before he reached sixty, and they never had that time.  On the other hand, if I took the next few paychecks and went traveling, I&#039;d be living in a shipping container when I got back.  I&#039;ve spent my life applying the pertinent parts of the Eight Tips, not because I&#039;m frugal, but because I&#039;m &lt;b&gt;poor,&lt;/b&gt; and it&#039;s the only way to make ends meet.  It is, in fact, my version of The Real World, and it doesn&#039;t seem to match up with Chris&#039;s version.  And that&#039;s okay; I&#039;m sticking with &quot;The Real World is different for everyone.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Count me in with Kevin, Davidson and Omer; I found the post to be extremely smug and self-satisfied; the author&#8217;s tone implied that HE had found the way, the truth, and the light, and those of us whose experience may differ are just wrong, wrong, wrong! </p>
<p>I think The Real World is, in fact, different for <i>everyone.</i>  J.D., your friend spent his life traveling the world; had he waited until retirement, he would never have traveled at all, because his life ended suddenly.  My mother waited patiently through her marriage for the time when my father would retire, and they would finally have time together.  He died before he reached sixty, and they never had that time.  On the other hand, if I took the next few paychecks and went traveling, I&#8217;d be living in a shipping container when I got back.  I&#8217;ve spent my life applying the pertinent parts of the Eight Tips, not because I&#8217;m frugal, but because I&#8217;m <b>poor,</b> and it&#8217;s the only way to make ends meet.  It is, in fact, my version of The Real World, and it doesn&#8217;t seem to match up with Chris&#8217;s version.  And that&#8217;s okay; I&#8217;m sticking with &#8220;The Real World is different for everyone.&#8221;</p>
<div id="placeholer-like-174201" class="likediv"><p>loading....</p></div>]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: JB</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2009/03/30/daily-links-real-world-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-174166</link>
		<dc:creator>JB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/?p=3327#comment-174166</guid>
		<description>OK. I have to speak up. I read the Eight Tips for Living Through a Recession, and even visited the link for extensive frugality tips. I was right. I could have WRITTEN that list.

I&#039;ve been living this way for YEARS. Cash-only. No credit cards. Considering ALL of my odd skills as job possibilities while seeking a new job, ANY job, because I&#039;ve been unemployed for a few years now--long story, but there has no job and it&#039;s been &quot;all savings all the time&quot; during the hunt.

There is not one thing on there I am not already doing. 

And the eighth tip, &quot;sell your extra stuff&quot;?

Sure. But it only works when people BUY the stuff you&#039;re selling. Worthless tip, IMHO, since the ENTIRE PROBLEM WITH THE ECONOMY is that people have stopped spending altogether and killed the flow cycle!!!

People need to wake up and realize, it is NOT about conserving money, withholding money, and prohibiting oneself from spending it--it is about releasing MORE money back INTO the economy so that we have more to spread around!!!!! Be mindful, yes, but know that frugality stemming from scarcity leads to stinginess and that leads to constipating the money cycle--and that leads to where our country is today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK. I have to speak up. I read the Eight Tips for Living Through a Recession, and even visited the link for extensive frugality tips. I was right. I could have WRITTEN that list.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been living this way for YEARS. Cash-only. No credit cards. Considering ALL of my odd skills as job possibilities while seeking a new job, ANY job, because I&#8217;ve been unemployed for a few years now&#8211;long story, but there has no job and it&#8217;s been &#8220;all savings all the time&#8221; during the hunt.</p>
<p>There is not one thing on there I am not already doing. </p>
<p>And the eighth tip, &#8220;sell your extra stuff&#8221;?</p>
<p>Sure. But it only works when people BUY the stuff you&#8217;re selling. Worthless tip, IMHO, since the ENTIRE PROBLEM WITH THE ECONOMY is that people have stopped spending altogether and killed the flow cycle!!!</p>
<p>People need to wake up and realize, it is NOT about conserving money, withholding money, and prohibiting oneself from spending it&#8211;it is about releasing MORE money back INTO the economy so that we have more to spread around!!!!! Be mindful, yes, but know that frugality stemming from scarcity leads to stinginess and that leads to constipating the money cycle&#8211;and that leads to where our country is today.</p>
<div id="placeholer-like-174166" class="likediv"><p>loading....</p></div>]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Omer</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2009/03/30/daily-links-real-world-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-174152</link>
		<dc:creator>Omer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:38:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/?p=3327#comment-174152</guid>
		<description>Regarding the &quot;real World&quot; post.  When I was reading it all I could think about was the ant vs. grasshopper mention from a few days ago.  It’s easy for the Grasshopper to be a non-conformist in spring.  I would assume it’s easy to not plan for the future, to quit jobs at a whim, and to buy what you want when you want if you don’t have to answer for it.  Problem is, when people realize they have given away their (and the people around them) tomorrows it usually too late to change.  Thank you but I will happily live here in the “real world” and continue to chart a course, plan for the future, and realize my goals for me and my family.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding the &#8220;real World&#8221; post.  When I was reading it all I could think about was the ant vs. grasshopper mention from a few days ago.  It’s easy for the Grasshopper to be a non-conformist in spring.  I would assume it’s easy to not plan for the future, to quit jobs at a whim, and to buy what you want when you want if you don’t have to answer for it.  Problem is, when people realize they have given away their (and the people around them) tomorrows it usually too late to change.  Thank you but I will happily live here in the “real world” and continue to chart a course, plan for the future, and realize my goals for me and my family.</p>
<div id="placeholer-like-174152" class="likediv"><p>loading....</p></div>]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: sandycheeks</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2009/03/30/daily-links-real-world-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-174151</link>
		<dc:creator>sandycheeks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/?p=3327#comment-174151</guid>
		<description>I don&#039;t really understand why you linked to the &quot;real world&quot; article.  It seems to glorify a &#039;live for the moment&#039; philosophy which IMO runs counter to a GRS approach. 

And just as the author complains about people making fun of those they consider idealistic, he does the same in return.  Seems smug to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t really understand why you linked to the &#8220;real world&#8221; article.  It seems to glorify a &#8216;live for the moment&#8217; philosophy which IMO runs counter to a GRS approach. </p>
<p>And just as the author complains about people making fun of those they consider idealistic, he does the same in return.  Seems smug to me.</p>
<div id="placeholer-like-174151" class="likediv"><p>loading....</p></div>]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Aman@BullsBattleBears</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2009/03/30/daily-links-real-world-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-174147</link>
		<dc:creator>Aman@BullsBattleBears</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/?p=3327#comment-174147</guid>
		<description>Those are great links! The New Scientist article is a good read...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those are great links! The New Scientist article is a good read&#8230;</p>
<div id="placeholer-like-174147" class="likediv"><p>loading....</p></div>]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: davidson07</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2009/03/30/daily-links-real-world-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-174136</link>
		<dc:creator>davidson07</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 13:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/?p=3327#comment-174136</guid>
		<description>Yup, I agree with Kevin, which is somewhat surprising given that I alternate back and forth between the &quot;real world&quot; and the &quot;travel abroad and party every night&quot; camps every couple of years. The self-righteousness and hubris coming out of the post was disgusting, as it is anytime one narrow group of people believes they&#039;ve found THE right way to live life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup, I agree with Kevin, which is somewhat surprising given that I alternate back and forth between the &#8220;real world&#8221; and the &#8220;travel abroad and party every night&#8221; camps every couple of years. The self-righteousness and hubris coming out of the post was disgusting, as it is anytime one narrow group of people believes they&#8217;ve found THE right way to live life.</p>
<div id="placeholer-like-174136" class="likediv"><p>loading....</p></div>]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2009/03/30/daily-links-real-world-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-174117</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 12:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/?p=3327#comment-174117</guid>
		<description>Regarding the &quot;Real World&quot; emo-piece:

I found it very narrow-minded and arrogant.  I doubt it&#039;s even occurred to him that many of the people lecturing on the &quot;Real World&quot; may have had similarly idealistic notions about the world when they were young too, but through time, gained a better understanding of the economics and social interactions that govern our lives.  He is frighteningly quick to dismiss the possibility that there is any wisdom at all to be gleaned from elders proffering explanations of how certain things world in the &quot;Real World.&quot;

I&#039;d be very interested to see if his tune changes in 10 years.  Of course, by then, some other naive, leftist academic will have picked up the &quot;your old rules don&#039;t apply to me&quot; torch, and the cycle will continue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding the &#8220;Real World&#8221; emo-piece:</p>
<p>I found it very narrow-minded and arrogant.  I doubt it&#8217;s even occurred to him that many of the people lecturing on the &#8220;Real World&#8221; may have had similarly idealistic notions about the world when they were young too, but through time, gained a better understanding of the economics and social interactions that govern our lives.  He is frighteningly quick to dismiss the possibility that there is any wisdom at all to be gleaned from elders proffering explanations of how certain things world in the &#8220;Real World.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;d be very interested to see if his tune changes in 10 years.  Of course, by then, some other naive, leftist academic will have picked up the &#8220;your old rules don&#8217;t apply to me&#8221; torch, and the cycle will continue.</p>
<div id="placeholer-like-174117" class="likediv"><p>loading....</p></div>]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Marie</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2009/03/30/daily-links-real-world-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-174073</link>
		<dc:creator>Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 03:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/?p=3327#comment-174073</guid>
		<description>I would LOVE to throw that real world article in my dad&#039;s face (which I guess means I&#039;d have to print it out). He spent two decades lecturing me all about &quot;the real world&quot;, and trust me when I say that it&#039;s nothing like his perception!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would LOVE to throw that real world article in my dad&#8217;s face (which I guess means I&#8217;d have to print it out). He spent two decades lecturing me all about &#8220;the real world&#8221;, and trust me when I say that it&#8217;s nothing like his perception!</p>
<div id="placeholer-like-174073" class="likediv"><p>loading....</p></div>]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: leigh</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2009/03/30/daily-links-real-world-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-174072</link>
		<dc:creator>leigh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 03:04:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/?p=3327#comment-174072</guid>
		<description>this is a great time to go back to school, but this idea is occurring to a lot of people now. early on in the downturn, it was fairly easy to get financial assistance. now, demand for grants is increasing, but budgets aren&#039;t following.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is a great time to go back to school, but this idea is occurring to a lot of people now. early on in the downturn, it was fairly easy to get financial assistance. now, demand for grants is increasing, but budgets aren&#8217;t following.</p>
<div id="placeholer-like-174072" class="likediv"><p>loading....</p></div>]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Jake &#124; Revive Your Life</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2009/03/30/daily-links-real-world-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-174054</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake &#124; Revive Your Life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 00:32:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/?p=3327#comment-174054</guid>
		<description>Thank you for the links above.  I found the article about &#039;money and the mind&#039; to be especially informative!  I think one good test (out of many) for individuals to determine how much control they have on their emotions related to their finances is to track their spending when they receive any sort of bonus or unexpected windfall.  Too often, people spend this additional money in a matter of days or weeks instead of months and without regard to any plan, debt reduction, or notion of saving.

   Again, thank you for the link.  I agree it is a great topic and would look forward to a full blog post in the future.

Jake &#124; Revive Your Life</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the links above.  I found the article about &#8216;money and the mind&#8217; to be especially informative!  I think one good test (out of many) for individuals to determine how much control they have on their emotions related to their finances is to track their spending when they receive any sort of bonus or unexpected windfall.  Too often, people spend this additional money in a matter of days or weeks instead of months and without regard to any plan, debt reduction, or notion of saving.</p>
<p>   Again, thank you for the link.  I agree it is a great topic and would look forward to a full blog post in the future.</p>
<p>Jake | Revive Your Life</p>
<div id="placeholer-like-174054" class="likediv"><p>loading....</p></div>]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
