I get frustrated when I meet people who don’t think advertising affects them. Advertising does affect you. And, in fact, I’d argue those who believe they are immune are probably most likely to be influenced.
How powerful are advertising and marketing? In 2007, I shared an excerpt from Malcolm Gladwell’s Blink in which the author describes how product packaging affects our perceptions.
In front of us was the beverage section. Rhea leaned over and picked up a can of 7-Up. “We tested Seven-Up. We had several versions, and what we found is that if you add fifteen percent more yellow to the green on the package — if you take this green and add more yellow — what people report is that the taste experience has a lot more lime or lemon flavor.”
In other words, a product’s taste isn’t just affected by the ingredients; it’s affected by the packaging too! Advertising and marketing influence us in myriads subtle ways, and in-store marketing can be just as powerful as any other form.
Here’s a recent real-life example of how product packaging has an impact on our buying decisions. Last December, Tropicana introduced a new carton for its “Pure Premium” citrus juices. The old packaging featured a distinctive logo and an iconic “straw stuck in an orange” image. The new packaging was bland and generic.
No other changes were made to the product. The taste was the same and the cost was the same. All that changed was the packaging. If this sort of thing made no difference to sales, if consumers were not influenced by in-store marketing, then this package redesign shouldn’t have mattered.
But we are influenced by in-store marketing, and the package redesign did matter. It mattered a lot. According to last week’s Advertising Age, Tropicana’s sales for “Pure Premium” juices dropped by 20% between January 1st and February 22nd. In the business world, a 20% drop in sales is huge — especially when you consider that Tropicana’s competitors posted double-digit sales increases over the same period.
Tropicana, of course, denies any connection between the package redesign and the decline in market share. All the same, they’re bringing back the old packaging. It sure sounds like there’s a connection to me.
I’m not arguing that you should (or could) avoid advertising and marketing. I’m just asking you to be aware that it’s very real and very powerful, and it affects you — even if you think it doesn’t.
Photo by Justin Lai.
This article is about Consumerism, Marketing Tuesday, 7th April 2009 (by J.D. Roth)


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April 7th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
I would have guessed the new packaging made people think it is “all natural” or even organic and would make people buy more.
April 7th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
there was a story on NPR about this. people actively noticed and complained that they hated the new packaging, and that they didn’t want to buy Tropicana in the ugly new carton. How funny that people were happy to say, “you’re marketing this to me wrong!”
…it was a stupid move on Tropicana’s part, though. I mean, that package is awful.
April 7th, 2009 at 1:16 pm
What irritates me is when companies change the packaging and then increase the price. This recently happened with my hair gel. I use a brand specific to my hair salon; they changed the bottle, but nothing else. The size and gel are the exact same.
And, yet, miraculously, it’s now “worth” two dollars more. I’ll be taking my two dollars elsewhere, thank-you.
April 7th, 2009 at 1:19 pm
PS. It’s not always “subtle” power. Think about the stigma of no-name goods. Most of the time these products are the exact same as name brand, even manufactured in the same factory, but labeled differently. And, yet, so many people have an unwarranted aversion to them…
April 7th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
Haha. For what it’s worth, I had the same exact reaction discussed.
The first time I saw the new packaging, it was so bland/nondescript that I thought to myself, “Is this a new low-end Tropicana brand?”
I kept buying it anyway, but apparently plenty of people didn’t.
April 7th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
I wonder how much of that drop was due to people not recognizing the new packaging as the same brand. I know that with things I buy frequently and where I have a brand preference my eye just skips to the familiar package on the shelf. I would probably have skipped right over this package and gone for my second-choice brand of orange juice, since this looks like a store-brand package - plain words, no pictures or distinctive logos.
If they changed Diet Coke cans from silver to purple or the Cheerios box from yellow to green, how many people do you think would walk down the aisle looking for their product and never find it? I don’t know if that’s really “advertising” per se, but packaging is certainly a big part of branding and marketing.
April 7th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
You’ve proven that the masses are affected by advertising, but not that any given individual is. I bought Tropicana before the redesign. I noticed the package redesign, thought nothing of it, and continued buying Tropicana. It tastes the same. Whatever.
April 7th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
I don’t know if it just my particular blog-roll but this is the (no exaggeration) 20th post I’ve seen about the Tropicana redesign bungle.
April 7th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
Speaking of Tropicana, watch out for their 50% less sugar OJ product. They took real 100% OJ, diluted it 50-50 with water, and threw in some natural flavor additive. (Check the ingredient list if you don’t believe me). Half the content of real OJ, but not half the price.
Ingredients: http://tinyurl.com/dh4a3q
April 7th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
While not exactly packaging and advertising, I saw an episode of Food Detectives (great show if you haven’t seen it) a while back that had a food psychologist do an experiment that showed how packaging or presenting food made identical items taste better.
It was amazing. Large sample size and identical food. One group was fed the food on very plain table settings, no fancy stuff on the table or elegant presentation with the food, and gave the food very plain names.
The second group got the same exact food but on fancier plates, fancy presentation, and gave the food sophisticated names.
The results were pretty amazing. The people with the plain version said the food was terrible and wouldn’t pay more than about 12 dollars for the meal, whereas the fancy group loved it, thought the food was amazing and were willing to shell out over $30 for the meal.
So I’m with you. When people say they aren’t affected by advertising, packaging, or presentation, then they are probably just not aware of it. It happens on such a subconscious level that most people just don’t realize what kind of influence these things can have on their decisions and expectations.
April 7th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
I noticed that packaging switch! I figured they were either a) following Pepsi’s lead by going for a more simple and modern look or b) trying to be mistaken for a generic so all the newly cost-conscious might accidentally buy it. They were probably originally trying to compete with Simply Orange.
April 7th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
People think ignorance is bliss.
I prefer knowledge, but some people don’t care.
-Nate
April 7th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
I seem to be in the minority but I liked the new packaging. I thought it looked fresh and clean. I still buy “simply orange” anyway.
April 7th, 2009 at 1:46 pm
I’ll go ahead and second David Safar up there. My family shops at Whole Foods and Costco and we don’t have a preference for particular name brands and quite honestly I do consider myself one of the people who have a critical enough mind to recognize when something is being advertised, process it, and then make a rational decision about whether or not to buy the product.
To underscore, I __hated__ the new packaging. I always have liked the Straw-in-orange picture. However, this isn’t from lack of trial. I’ve drank 365 brand orange juice, minute made, Genaurdi’s, Clemens, Giant and inevitably I came down to enjoying the taste of Tropicana (Lot’s of Pulp is my favorite). It’s probably because of the [fake flavoring they use](http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/ideas/articles/2009/02/22/qa_with_alissa_hamilton/) (My eyes have so sadly been opened) and the fact that I always found that concentrate has a serious acidic aftertaste.
That being said, I continued to buy Tropicana for all of the above reasons. I find it be a superior product and I try not to let advertisement and packaging influence my decisions like that. The product didn’t taste any different either!
I find the essential skills for living life in our consumer culture is a critical mind that’s aware that you’re always being marketed to. Everything is an advertisement and needs to be evaluated as such. I don’t understand why you’d think that with that in mind you couldn’t possibly critically and rationally evaluate the advertisements that are flooding you at any given time.
Still, I believe the last figure I saw was a 22% percent drop in sales for Tropicana which just made me laugh. It’s as funny as the New Coke campaign.
April 7th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
Yeah, it’s pretty odd how strongly I disliked the new carton.
But we shouldn’t be surprised that people are attracted to beauty and repulsed by ugly. And the new carton is ugly.
April 7th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
wow, i totally perceived the new design as being more high-end.
the fonts looked more modern. i wonder how the new pepsi logo is faring.
April 7th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
Don’t confuse “marketing” with “advertising.” I really think I am unaffected (or at least not positively affected) by marketing, but sure I am affected by marketing.
April 7th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
It’s like the ad that PizzaHut runs for their pasta… you present it in a fancy format, and people would never think twice that it wasn’t gourmet food. Marketing makes a good product sell, it can’t make up for a bad product however, maybe some, but in the end, if your product isn’t good, no matter how much you throw into marketing, it won’t sell.
April 7th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
What about the possibility that the packaging is part of the good? Every part of our experience interacting with the good is part of its value, either positively or negatively. Heck, opening your fridge and seeing an eye-pleasing array is a value.
I think it is clumsy to compare two sets of packaging and claim that any valuation difference is arbitrary, and worse, that it shows our lack of ability to sense value. It’s just that our sense of value is larger than the orange juice in the box. Products’
value exists somewhere between their physical reality and our emotive associations. That’s why we taste more lemon/lime. And we actually do taste it. Don’t assume that is a bad thing.
(And thank god for that or else what would we have to spend all this money?)
April 7th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
Thank you for pointing this out. Direct ads do nothing for me, but I admit when I’m hot and sweaty the first thing I think about is a cold brewed Coor’s Light. Then I realize that tastes awful and get a Miller Lite. They’re a joint venture for so they win!
April 7th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
I saw the new Tropicana cartons, but at first glance I couldn’t figure out if it was organic or a generic brand.
I think they were trying to look organic and failed–miserably. Don’t care much ’cause I don’t drink the stuff anyway!
April 7th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
They made tests with chips and to test eaters, they taste different in different forms (same material!). So it’s not just that the industry uses packaging to make us buy; obviously there’s a complex interpretation process behind taste that is more than just molecules on your tongue.
P.S. Milka in Germany once tried to move away from their lilac cow but buyers didn’t allow them *G*
April 7th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
For even more amazing studies on packaging/advertising and it’s power over us, read “Mindless Eating” by Brian Wansink. They discuss suggested serving sizes, serving lemon jello with red food coloring and people believing it’s cherry jello, telling people they’re going to taste-test strawberry pudding in the dark but giving them chocolate pudding with none the wiser. It’s amazing and all based on real studies, not just theories!
April 7th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
@Janice (#23)
I have a copy of Wansink’s “Mindless Eating” that I plan to read and review at Get Fit Slowly. Someday.
April 7th, 2009 at 2:23 pm
Hate to say it, but… I’m unaffected by marketing.
If anything, I will tend to avoid a product if they get too in my face trying to advertise to me. For most products, I’m totally oblivious to brand names. On the rare occasions that I’ve seen a commercial that I remembered and wanted to talk to someone about, I’ve found I can’t remember what brand of (orange juice / airline / jeans / soft drink / car) the ad was for.
As far as I’m concerned, brands are mostly interchangeable. There’s a scant handful of brands I do have loyalty to, generally because they’ve impressed me with their quality in the past. But other than that, I’m very critical, I find ads intrusive, and I shop based on the actual features of the product in question (including price). I buy the name-brand whenever I can. In a few cases I tried the name-brand and found it genuinely wasn’t as good (Cheerios come to mind), but for the most part, they are all the same.
There are far too few of us, but we do exist.
(Also, I don’t understand what the big deal is with the OJ packaging. Why do people care so much? The two designs seem basically interchangeable to me, though I guess the “straw in orange” symbol is a powerful one for Tropicana and it’s odd that they would sacrifice it.)
April 7th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
You’re so right. I actually bought the old-style packaging when given the choice of the two in the grocery store this week! Packaging makes a huge difference! I’m laughing that I was guilty of being influenced by this very example!
April 7th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
I stopped buying the juice until I looked closely and realized they still offered the same variations in pulp, calcium, etc. that they had before. The difference between cartons was very clear on the old package. The new package labels were in a smaller, softer font that was hard to spot from a couple feet away.
On the plus side, they were giving the stuff away for a few weeks! It was below $2.50 a carton while they were trying to move the new packaging off the shelves.
April 7th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
Packaging and brand recognition are interesting subjects. When it comes to groceries I buy the lowest priced items on the shelf. My wife doesn’t like to go shopping with me because I don’t buy her favorite brands. She claims there’s a difference, but I guess we’ll never really know if she keeps buying her favorites now will we. C’mon they’re all cans of green beans how different can they be? I’ll be a tightwad to the day I die and that day might just occur in the local grocery store.
April 7th, 2009 at 3:07 pm
I stopped buying OJ years ago when they started coming out with all these variations on what should be a simple product. No Pulp. Calcium. Some Pulp. Lots of Pulp. Country Style. City Style. Burb style.
Whatever. The moment something simple (it’s just freaking OJ!) becomes the object of market segmentation and thus so complicated is the moment I start feeling manipulated and stop being a customer.
I occasionally treat myself to a fresh-squeezed glass at my favorite breakfast spot…and I buy whole oranges at the grocery store…get more dietary fiber that way, too.
April 7th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
You and me both Chris. I thought the design was modern, while the old one looked strikingly 90s. Enh, no big deal, I’ll gulp just about any OJ.
April 7th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
One of my old bosses taught me a trick to see if your design will work in real life. He taught me to turn and walk a few feet away, and then turn back quickly and note what you see first when you look at the design. All too often designers spend so much time staring at the image from such a close proximity, that they don’t get a realistic view of how the design actually reads in a visual sense.
When you use that criteria with the two designs, you can’t dispute that on the old label, the orange and the “Tropicana” logo both jumped out at you, with the flag at the top delineating the type of juice coming in as a close second. The old packaging reads very clearly.
The main “flaw” in the redesign is that no single graphical element jumps out at the shopper. I’m sure it tested wonderfully when placed as a single image in front of consumers, but when placed in the buzz and distraction of an actual grocery store, and grouped together as a “brand statement” it all just washes over into a bland vista where nothing stands out.
I’m not surprised in the least that they are reverting back to the old design.
April 7th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
Jeremy #10, how funny! Because there is this restaurant we went to during Restaurant Week in San Diego. One of those fancy, and popular ones and they offered a prixe-fixe menu to make them more affordable for us common folks. Everyone lapped it up. My cousin thought it was great. I thought my husband can cook something up with a lot more flavor than what was served. I guess they can get away with it because of their name and the fancy setting.
April 7th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
That explains it! I actually noticed the new cartons at my grocery store just yesterday. I normally don’t by Tropicana because I prefer Florida’s Natural, but I have been buying Tropicana for the past month because it has been buy one get one free every week at the grocery store. I was beginning to wonder why Tropicana was continuously on sale, but that explains it.
April 7th, 2009 at 3:53 pm
I had no idea they changed their packaging because I buy the cheapest frozen oj I can find, no matter how many times I see their ads or walk past their new or old packaging in the stores.
“I get frustrated when I meet people who don’t think advertising affects them. Advertising does affect you. And, in fact, I’d argue those who believe they are immune are probably most likely to be influenced.”
This article doesn’t prove anything about the people that believe they are immune to advertising or marketing. It just proves that advertising and marketing work, which everyone knows.
April 7th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
My husband needs to drink low-acid juice. Tropicana is the only brand I’ve found that doesn’t just water down the juice to reduce the acid.
When Tropicana changed the packaging, it took me several minutes to find the low-acid juice. Maybe in time I would have automatically looked at the right section of the carton, but the change was very irritating and I can see why sales went down.
Those of us who are attached to a certain packaged product don’t just want a consistent taste - we also want our shopping to be quick and easy as we grab the same item every time.
April 7th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
I noticed the new packaging but still bought the orange juice because I’ve always liked the brand; however, I don’t like the new packaging! Can somebody tell me why they changed the packaging in the first place??
April 7th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
CV hit the nail on the head, I think — if you don’t recognize your tried and true product, you try the next thing you see. The NYTimes recently did an article on advertising (and where it fails) that offers an interesting counter to this idea that advertising/marketing (good distinction Daniel & Kat) is all powerful and we’re zombie victims. Here’s the link if anyone’s interested: http://ideas.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/04/06/why-advertising-is-failing-on-the-internet/. I think the article helps address why many of us feel that advertising doesn’t affect us — it might make us curious, but we probably do the research & only buy the product for a legitimate reason.
April 7th, 2009 at 5:12 pm
I think we are affected by subtle advertising, more so than pushy marketing. If we have seen an ad somewhere, especially in reputable media, it helps our purchasing decisions.
In Tropicanna’s case, I feel the new packaging is too bland. The old one has a greater visual impact and that helps when a customer is choosing which products to buy on the supermarket aisle.
However, it is important to note that a fancy ad or packaging may entice buyers, but there is no guarantee of repeat customers or referral business if the quality of the product is poor.
April 7th, 2009 at 5:17 pm
The new packaging looks a lot like a generic brand so I’m very surprised that Tropicana made the change. I thought there had been enough lessons learned from the past marketing experiments to not change an iconic/very recognizable image.
April 7th, 2009 at 5:19 pm
I’m like many other readers in that I found it hard to tell the difference between the different types of Tropicana in the new packaging. I don’t usually buy OJ, but my dad was visiting and he loves the one with lots of pulp. I went specifically to the store to buy it and came home with Minute Maid b/c at least I could figure the carton out! I imagine that the lack of distinction between the different types of OJ lead a lot of people to pick up a different brand.
April 7th, 2009 at 5:23 pm
Of course, packaging & design is just as big a part of the blogging industry as any other, and surely part of objective of the design of any blog is to catch the readers eye, and distinguish from other blogs. That is why no blogger uses the default WordPress theme - or for that matter just raw text which would be a more inexpensive medium to distribute (less bandwidth, less advertising costs, etc). Instead bloggers spend lots of time to spruce up their raw product (the written word) with fancy fonts, pretty pictures, and all sorts of different colors (and dare I mention the animated banner ads?). If you liken it to that, the Tropicana situation is not so bad. It’s just taking pride in your work and giving it a little shine & polish. Is orange juice any different?
April 7th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
I am very influenced by advertising in that I go out of my way to avoid it. We watch DVDs and avoid cable, listen to mp3s and avoid radio, don’t read newspapers, use Java and script blockers online, etc.
What has become a influence on my buying is product-specific online forums. However, I do know they are littered with false positive reviews (I’ve even done some when freelance jobs were lean, I’m ashamed to admit) so I still consider them advertising.
April 7th, 2009 at 5:29 pm
@Marie (#42): I totally agree with you, I’m the same way. Just about the only thing that influences me positively is a recommendation from friends or family, or from a blogger I read regularly (and thus have developed some level of trust in). Basically anyone who has some stake in my purchasing something is suspect.
April 7th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
I’m in marketing, and have marginally been involved in some food brands. A couple of things I remember from meetings:
1) Packaging is the NUMBER ONE priority for liquor and perfume. The content barely matters.
2) I don’t have the figures, but the jump in milk sales from the new packaging of “Dean’s Milk Chug” were FAR greater than any kind of movement from both of the “Got Milk” OR “Milk Mustache” campaigns.
April 7th, 2009 at 6:12 pm
As JD mentions, our sales dropped by 20% at a time when the economy is incredibly weak and job cuts are the norm. While it is a lesson to be learned, there is also the personal side of it when my coworkers jobs were cut due to the lost revenue made by this decision.
April 7th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
I had a writer who recently slammed my website because we were using twitter to get out awareness about an upcoming launch. He didn’t do enough research to figure out that we were doing this with about 1 out of every 20 tweets.
He sounded real smart until I pointed out that I counted no less than 16 advertisements on the page where the article was printed.
April 7th, 2009 at 6:41 pm
Ha! Just this morning I opened my office fridge and saw these two cartons of orange juice… guess which one I picked?!
April 7th, 2009 at 6:45 pm
I don’t buy premium OJ very often (well, we don’t drink OJ often at all), but was getting a medicine that was best consumed w/ a strong juice, so I went to go buy a kind we’d like. They had some of the old packaging, and Tropicana was on sale, so I set out looking for the type we’d like. I couldn’t find it. It took me several minutes to comprehend that the generic looking cartons were also tropicana. I didn’t even realize it - I thought they were just some random store brand. I knew right then that it wouldn’t work for them.
I used to work at a market research agency we did focus groups when a local (large) dairy goods company wanted to change their packaging. During one of the groups, one woman got up and started shouting about how milk containers just SHOULD be white because milk is white. She was REALLY passionate about it. So funny… people really, really do care.
April 7th, 2009 at 6:51 pm
Thank you for trying J.D., but there are always a few unassailable minds in the crowd.
I quote Sun Tzu because we consumers are at war with marketers, whether we realize it or not. “It is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles; if you do not know your enemies but do know yourself, you will win one and lose one; if you do not know your enemies nor yourself, you will be imperiled in every single battle.”
April 7th, 2009 at 6:53 pm
The Canadian Broadcasting Corporation (CBC) has an excellent program called “The Age of Persuasion.” It discusses topics in advertising and marketing. Definitely worth looking up.
April 7th, 2009 at 7:00 pm
I HATE the new packaging, and I am a fan of Tropicana. I like the orange in the straw. It looks refreshing, and as if it’s from Florida. The new design makes the product look like it’s from Mexico, and very generic.
I have bought 2 cartons of the new design, but I’m really happy that the old design is coming back.
I love behavioral economics, or social experimentation. If you haven’t read Predictably Irrational by Dan Ariely (sp?), you should.
April 7th, 2009 at 7:30 pm
I was wondering about that. The old packaging was a symbol of good taste and fresh real fruit. True, it wasn’t very mid-late-2000’s, but it was the drink I chose when I went to the store.
Then all of a sudden I went to the store and all I saw were these bland America’s Choice juices, until I realized it was actually a new Tropicana design…
April 7th, 2009 at 8:04 pm
…which is why it’s difficult to guess those “mystery” flavor suckers and/or Airheads. Because there’s no color on the packaging to clue you in on what the flavor should taste like. Packaging is hugely influential. In reality, the mystery flavors are actually a mix of two different flavors, but if the packaging were two different colors, we’d have no problem spotting that cranapple or lemonmelon… or whatever.
April 7th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
Tropicana no pulp is the only OJ that doesn’t make me sick, so of course, I’m loyal to it.
Since the switch, though, the size of larger containers has decreased, but the price hasn’t changed. Also, trying to find my particular type of juice takes a ridiculous amount of time, relative to the rest of my life. It used to be get the orange cap and now, it’s sort through and look for the 50% less sugar, blah blah blah.
April 7th, 2009 at 8:43 pm
“Hate to say it, but… I’m unaffected by marketing.
If anything, I will tend to avoid a product if they get too in my face trying to advertise to me. ”
um…that’s being affected by marketing. It’s not the effect the company is trying to make, but it’s still an effect. =P
It’s amazing what a difference presentation can make. I read an article once about a lady who knitted her mom a sweater, than just handed it to her instead of wrapping it, and was disappointed when her mom didn’t seem “oh! a present!” excited. People can be so snobbish about “I look ONLY at what’s INSIDE, I’m not superficial like YOU” but the surface of a thing (or a person) is just as much a part of them as the inside.
I’m getting really philosophical about orange juice.
April 7th, 2009 at 8:54 pm
I truly didn’t realise how much marketing is in our faces everyday until I moved into a house with a television!
April 7th, 2009 at 9:06 pm
I love this type of stories… I sent it straight to my brother who is in marketing research. Thanks for all the great reads!
April 7th, 2009 at 11:26 pm
I noticed everyone referring to the new packaging as looking “generic” because it was plain and simple. I wonder what would happen to generic OJ sales if they put some cartoon characters on it or dress it up a bit? I for one don’t buy Tropicana and didn’t notice the change until I read about it on the internet. One of the biggest reasons for me not buying Tropicana or much OJ of any brand at all is the price. Ouch!!! Imagine if we had to pay that in gasoline! Missing my daily morning juice but I’m happy finding another cheaper one!
April 7th, 2009 at 11:38 pm
That’s funny.
I recently purchased some of that orange juice BECAUSE of the new packaging. I hated the old box because it was too noisy; there was so much shit going on! This box is simple and looks just like a box of orange juice, nothing else, which is what I want. It also helped that at the time, it was the cheapest of the “just orange juices” in the store.
April 8th, 2009 at 12:39 am
I just popped back over to the states for a two week visit.
I also hate the “new” packaging, because it does look generic. I like the “orange” on the box and distinctive Tropicana look. (I’m not particularly brand loyal, however and probably prefer MM country style, if they still sell it.)
I also decidedly don’t like the new pepsi logo.
April 8th, 2009 at 2:08 am
I agree that packaging influences much more and in a subtler way than advertising, which can instead be annoying and counterproductive.
I’m a lover of Crema Novi, which is a fantastic nut and cocoa spread, much better than the famous Nutella - it’s the only one which contains real hazelnut oil instead of palm oil.
Well, the packaging has been this one for years http://acantho.flashgiovani.it/mangiare/imgman/cremanovi.jpg - then it was changed to this http://photos-h.ll.facebook.com/photos-ll-snc1/v1956/36/26/1459762367/t1459762367_174559_1282.jpg which is more modern, attractive and “feels” more (I think!) like hazelnut. Well, the quality hasn’t changed, but guess what, when I find the old package and the new one, I always prefer the latter…
April 8th, 2009 at 3:51 am
I noticed the new packaging. I remember thinking how the new packaging looked so bland and tasteless. Packaging *does* has a huge effect on people, even if it’s in their sub-conscience.
The old Tropicana package has a fresh fat juicy wet orange on it. You can just taste that cold flavorful orange juice quenching your thirst. The new Tropicana package looks bland and tasteless. It almost looks bland enough to carry over to the juice inside, at least from a psychological standpoint. Also, the new packaging has a ‘generic’ feel to it. It feels ‘cheap’. If they were going for a high-end minimal feel, they failed, and instead ended up with a cheap generic store-brand orange juice feel. I’m glad they’ll be bringing back the old packaging.
April 8th, 2009 at 4:30 am
Am I the only person that noticed that Tropicana seemed to phase out the “Light and Healthy” version of its orange juice (pictured to the left in the photo at the top of this post)?
I purchased a carton of it every week for the last couple years and then, when Tropicana introduced their new packaging, it totally vanished. I checked the nutrition labels on all the new cartons and to my dismay, NONE of them had the reduced sugar and calorie count of the Light and Healthy that I was used to purchasing.
Perhaps there was actually more than just a branding change after all? I honestly don’t think that the two products in J.D.’s picture are the exact same. Same brand, yes, but same contents, no.
April 8th, 2009 at 4:30 am
People can’t help themselves– they judge “books” by their covers . . . this applies to anything a human looks at(other people, cars, and orange juice)– appearences count.
April 8th, 2009 at 4:41 am
I have to agree with some of the others. When I saw that packaging I didn’t immediately recognize it as the Tropicana brand. Obviously, it says Tropicana, but you get used to the brand symbol and you look for it. In the grocery store, I am in a hurry. I suspect that’s a factor as much as the bland packaging. You’d think companies would be more savvy about this type of thing. And, yes, if I’m buying name brand, I do like appealing packaging. That said, I buy frozen concentrate most of the time … generic, but I do buy Tropicana or name brand for guests. It does taste better.
Shirley
April 8th, 2009 at 5:33 am
I guess I’m one of the minority that actually prefer the new packaging. As previously posted - to me it looks more modern. The use of Helvetica font, the clean & unadorned layout.
As Jimmy noted though, the first change to catch my eye was that it no longer states “Light and Healthy”. I would’ve assumed that it was a slightly different product. But I would not have assumed it was a lower grade product.
April 8th, 2009 at 6:23 am
I teach finance management at a high school. I have the kids put together an ad campaign during the budgeting section. After that, they report that packaging and advertising has a very high influence on their purchases as a consumer. They also report that they are better able to avoid the influence–once they understand it.
April 8th, 2009 at 6:53 am
#9 “Speaking of Tropicana, watch out for their 50% less sugar OJ product. They took real 100% OJ, diluted it 50-50 with water, and threw in some natural flavor additive. (Check the ingredient list if you don’t believe me). Half the content of real OJ, but not half the price.”
I bought this recently because I had a $1.00 coupon & then it was doubled so I got the juice for 50 cents. Everyone in the house noticed the packaging change & the difference in taste for the 50% less sugar. Also, I noticed that instead of a half gallon of OJ (64 ounces) there was only 59 ounces, although the packaging size looked comparable to regular Tropicana container. So in reality you are paying more to get less juice/more water.
April 8th, 2009 at 7:20 am
So true. My wife comes home from the grocery store almost every time with a bottle of water they sell in the coolers right by the checkout. When she walks in with it I say “Looks like they got ya.”
April 8th, 2009 at 7:36 am
Sure, I believe it. I think that new Tropicana design looks GENERIC *gasp!*. I think everyone is affected by advertising - some people more than others. I’ll admit I’m a bit of a brand wh*re, but I don’t take it to the extreme. To me, the brands I like represent quality. I believe that many companies want to keep their brand name squeaky clean so they don’t skimp on quality. That isn’t to say that I haven’t felt bamboozled by some brands, but in general, the brands I trust do produce consistently good quality products.
I’ll buy generic where I can, but in some cases I just won’t. I suppose through trial and error I have found brands I like, and naturally stick to, especially when their ads are all over the place.
As I get older (and am committed to paying off debt and securing a financial future for myself), I’m learning to take trends and the advertisements that go with them with a grain of salt. Even items that aren’t trendy, and are simply advertised like crazy, I don’t necessarily have to buy, or even WANT to buy.
April 8th, 2009 at 7:48 am
I used to just eat fresh fruit. Then there was a period where the fruit just wasn’t that great & I switched over to the Tropicana “Light & Healthy” version. It took me quite a long while searching the new labels to figure out they had eliminated that version. Since no other brands had a comparable version I went back to the produce department & bought a bag of oranges. Luckily, the fresh fruit, particularly oranges, has been really great this Winter, so I’ve enjoyed the change.
Although just pouring a glass of juice is easier, I’ve turned the task of peeling the orange (or cleaning & cutting the strawberries, etc.) into an enjoyable experience for all my senses. Thank you Tropicana marketers.
April 8th, 2009 at 8:04 am
Its funny you brought up the Tropicana packaging. I saw this packaging change first-hand and my very initial thought was that it was a “generic” brand and immediately I was not interested. When I looked closer and saw that it was Tropicana I thought, “Who Ok’d that change??”
And with juices, I tend to find that the generics don’t have as much taste, seem watered down. Maybe that is Marketing, too, but I don’t think so…
April 8th, 2009 at 8:21 am
Thank you, JD for this post. Nobody likes to be told that they conform to a mass mentality, or mass behavior. The justification for that is that most of us are intelligent human beings. We aren’t all “sheeple” who go buy a product the moment we see it on TV. But being critically aware of advertising and marketing and being immune to them are very different things. Unless you’re a hermit living away from every single form of mass media out there, you’re not unaffected (you can certainly change the degree to which you are affected, though!). If you’ve ever used a coupon, asked a friend what shampoo they use, or bought a couple of candy bars at the checkout line, you’ve been susceptible to marketing and advertising. Even Brian Wansink, of “Mindless Eating” admitted that he wasn’t immune to it.
Of course, the effect of advertising doesn’t always lead to a product purchase. Even if direct forms of advertising aren’t effective on an individual, a collection of forces can shape behavior so that one purchases the product. That’s a form of advertising/marketing, even if the company itself wasn’t initiating or funding the medium. But companies hope that with enough exposure and a variety of factors, you’ll purchase their product–even if you “see through” some hokey advertising. And in the end, they don’t care so much about specific individuals purchasing their product as long as those individuals add up to significant market share.
We can’t escape advertising and marketing unless we go back to preconsumer culture. But we can certainly be critical of it.
April 8th, 2009 at 8:26 am
Honestly, I probably would have at least checked out the new packaging because it looks like a generic and I would have assumed a lower price point. I’m all about my store brands.
April 8th, 2009 at 8:28 am
One problem with the new Tropicana packaging is that the took the very disnctive name and turned it sideways so you have to read the name vertically, instead of horizontally. That’s why it is hard to figure out what brand it is at a glance.
April 8th, 2009 at 8:28 am
I try to use consumerreports.org for most of my purchases. I feel it takes much of the fluff out of buying stuff. Anyone who claims they are above being affected by marketing/advertising completely is either ignorant or arrogant (or both).
April 8th, 2009 at 9:29 am
Back to what Virginia said #11.
Simply Orange is it’s own unique brand (owned by Minute Maid). Tropicana Pure Premium is a brand extension of Tropicana (or brand dilution, depending on who you ask). Read “Marketing Warfare” and you’ll understand this battle was over when it started.
Notice how you probably didn’t know Simply Orange was owned by Minute Maid and they didn’t call it Simply Minute Maid. They created a simple position that Tropicana would have to compete with it’s other brand extensions to defend.
April 8th, 2009 at 10:15 am
As Gwen pointed out up above someplace, the change in packaging was partially related to a shrinking in package size (without a corresponding shrink in price). I actually emailed Tropicana when they shrunk their large plastic jugs down and got a response basically saying “people wanted a better jug and label design; we were just doing what the people asked for.” I’m pretty sure that the average consumer didn’t ask for any such thing and if they did they certainly didn’t also ask for “smaller size for the same money please.”
So I stopped buying their juice and switched to the best frozen concentrate I could find. I save a ton and it’s close enough in flavor. Still, I’d be tempted by my old favorite, with that fat juicy orange. Recently I noticed the new generic packaging and actually though “well, I won’t be so tempted now.”
I hope they lost 20% of their sales. Not because their new package is stupid (which is it) but because they had such a lame excuse for shrinking their product and not their price.
(OK, note: I saw the employee comment above and will not be happy if their stupid choices cause good people to lose their jobs).
April 8th, 2009 at 12:23 pm
Great post and a great reminder for me to turn off the TV a little more often.
Speaking specifically about the Tropicana ad for a moment- the ‘new’ design looks like a generic product to me. I would imagine that’s why sales dropped. And it obviously isn’t recognizable like the original packaging. What a dumb move!
April 8th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
Similar to #63 above, I wondered if taking off the “Light and Healthy” label caused the drop in sales. I don’t drink juice, but I prefered the new design in the picture above. I buy mostly organic foods, so Whole Foods and Trader Joe’s get most of my business, particularly for their store brands (fyi, today’s Chicago Tribune Food section had an interesting price comparison for organic foods).
April 8th, 2009 at 5:23 pm
I, for one prefer the newer packaging. It is similar to the Publix brand which while generic, has a clean, simple, modern and attractive design. I am literate. It’s orange juice. I don’t need a picture of an orange on it to know what’s inside
April 8th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
Maybe Google should look into this notion that branding and advertising is the key to success … If you provide a good product/service at an affordable price you will be successful. It’s funny how we give the marketing folks all the credit for our purchases. It’s almost insulting that you think we aren’t in control of our decisions to purchase products.
April 9th, 2009 at 8:18 am
I buy Tropicana’s orange juice because I preferred the taste over other brands, and I’ve tried many. After the packaging change I almost missed the brand in the store. I can’t say that packaging mattered to me, it still tastes the same. Once it’s in the glass, it’s visually identical.
April 9th, 2009 at 10:42 am
To echo what so many have already said - I buy Tropicana… The packaging change has add probably 5 seconds to my grocery trip and I find this frustrating. Now instead of walking past the OJ and grabbing what I want without stopping, I have to read the cartons to make sure I am buying the right brand… I don’t take issue with the new packaging, I just wish the change hadn’t been SO drastic.
April 9th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
Interesting to see a poster just above mention the similarity with Publix’s store brand orange juice. Husband actually significantly prefers the Publix juice to the Tropicana (and will still go for the Publix even when it costs more than the Tropicana), and there were a couple times where we almost ended up with the Tropicana in our cart instead of the more desired Publix brand because of confusion over the new and now phased out packaging.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
I noticed Tropicana’s new packaging and bought a couple cartons. But not because of the cool new packaging – I also noticed that it was 100% orange juice NOT FROM CONCENTRATE with Pulp.
I prefer orange juice that is not from concentrate and that has pulp. I didn’t know that Tropicana sold juice like that. In this case, the new packaging alerted me to new information about their product rather than changing my perception of it, because it still doesn’t taste as good as Simply Orange.
April 14th, 2009 at 5:57 am
Late to this party but after mentioning it to my husband, he went to the grocery store and had the EXACT SAME PROBLEM with Kraft Finely Shredded Cheese. They’ve changed the packaging and it looks as generic as it can be. He almost couldn’t find it because of the change.
April 16th, 2009 at 9:44 am
There’s a reason companies spend huge sums on marketing and research-because it works. Every product targets a specific audience. Even movies. Ever hear about a movie changing the ending post production because the movie makers didn’t get the audience’s expected reaction? That’s market research. My husband does marketing and used to do packaging. It’s all about gaining brand loyalty-not selling their product to a random couple of people. They want you coming back to their product for the rest of your life. So for those who continued buying the oj, despite the package change, that’s loyalty. Anyone who thinks marketing doesn’t work, has it wrong. It even works on us, and we know the game!