Some people never take control of their finances because they’re afraid that doing so would require them to give up everything they enjoy. I don’t believe that’s true. Getting out of debt requires hard work and sacrifice, but that doesn’t mean you can’t have fun along the way.
Aaron recently sent the following e-mail:
You paid off $35,000 in debt in just over three years. Does that mean you were balls-to-the-wall dedicated and had no frills and were dour-faced the whole time? Were you using every spare penny to pay debt? Did you give up all luxuries and all fun? Did paying off the debt consume you?
That’s my greatest fear about the whole thing. What makes it worse is that I’m serious about getting out of debt — I just don’t want to be miserable in the process. Especially since I’m going to be married soon.
Any encouragement you can give would be greatly appreciated.
When a person decides to make a lifestyle change — financial or otherwise — there’s a temptation GO ALL OUT. With the zeal of a new convert, you leap headlong into a life of thrift, for example, giving up everything you valued before.
There’s a problem with this.
Most people who leap from a lifestyle of deficit-spending to one of extreme frugality find the waters very, very cold. It’s a shock to the system. It feels oppressive. They struggle to stay afloat, but before long decide they’re going to sink rather than swim, so return to the warmer, familiar waters, the waters of debt.
I made several false starts before I found my way. I would decide to give up comics completely, or to never buy another computer game. These sorts of goals are foolish. Nobody has that kind of god-like self-control. Everyone needs an indulgence now and then.
Rather than quit cold turkey, I think the best way to begin a life of frugality is by taking small steps. Small steps eventually become big strides, but only after you’ve developed your frugal muscles.
Testing the water
When I was working to pay off my debt, I was not obsessed. I did not give up all luxuries and fun. I was dedicated, yes, but debt reduction did not consume me. For much of those three years, I was struggling to figure things out. I didn’t suddenly move from clueless spender to clued-in saver. It was a gradual process, one that’s not even wholly complete today.
I started to focus on debt reduction in October 2004. In January 2006, over a year into my quest, I had one of my worst financial months ever. I spent over $1,000 on comic books. (I was buying expensive hard-bound compilations.) I’m almost ashamed to admit that, but it’s true: for that month, I spent more than I earned.
That’s an extreme example, though. Most months I made smart decisions with money, and gradually improved my situation. Measures that seemed extreme at the beginning became much easier by the end. When I started to get out of debt, I thought of cable television as a Need. By the end of the process, I saw that it was a Want. That’s just one example; I cut back in many areas. But again, these changes did not occur overnight.
Finding balance
For some people, the gazelle-like intensity espoused by Dave Ramsey is absolutely the right way to go. But I believe that the people who succeed with this sort of devotion are those who actually learn to enjoy extreme frugality. They don’t feel like they’re making sacrifices. The rest of us need some sort of balance.
In my case, my most austere period came after I had re-paid my debt. When I quit my job at the box factory last spring, I spent a few months being too frugal, and I was not happy. It was then that I discovered the balanced money formula, which I’ve mentioned frequently over the past few months. Adopting this technique helped me to continue saving while also allowing room for fun. The same thing can be done while you repay your debt.
Yes, you should cut back as much as possible. Yes, thrift and frugality are important tools to meeting your financial goals. But I believe it’s important to develop sustainable financial goals. If you’re miserable, or if you cut your spending so far that you cannot maintain it, there’s a risk that you’ll lapse back into old habits.
There’s no one right path to debt-free living. Each of us has different priorities. To find the way that’s right for you, you need to set financial goals, draft a spending plan that moves you in the direction of these goals, and then practice patient persistence. And let yourself have a treat now and then.
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JD,
You omitted one crucial piece of advice: Don’t waste big money on a wedding celebration. Tell everyone that cash gifts would be appreciated more than ‘stuff’ and have an inexpensive wedding. No wedding planners, buy a few flowers from a florist, no fancy invites, no fancy ballrooms. How about a backyard wedding?
That 20k to 50k you save will be a huge first step. If fiancee not on board, frugality is not going to work for you
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100% Debt repayment may be fine for some; but, debt can actually be a useful wealth-creation tool, when used in moderation.
The real problem is that people confuse Good Debt / Bad Debt with Cheap Debt / Expensive debt:
- The former applies only when you are deciding which debt to take on,
- The latter applies when deciding which debt to pay off first.
… a simple, but critical, differentiator for those of us who have SOME debt – and, isn’t that [almost] ALL of us?!
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Great article – and a lot of the comments are really helpful too.
I’m very focussed on reducing our debt and will do almost anything to achieve that. My husband on the other hand doesn’t quite get it – although he is slowly coming on board. He does have a weekly amount he can spend however he likes although I find it hard to bite my tongue and not comment when I see how he has spent it.
We’ve cut some things out of our budget completely and have cut back in other areas too.
This year for my birthday I sent my close family a very specific list of what I wanted – this included those things I see as an extra – like vouchers for the movies, a massage, a magazine subscription. This way I feel like I’m not missing out on the things I wanted plus I haven’t ended up with random stuff as gifts that I would then need to find a home for.
For Mother’s Day I asked that my sons take me out for brunch instead of buying gifts. Again this was a really nice treat for me and I enjoyed spending time over a meal to chat and catch up.
I would like to hit our non-mortgage debt quicker and harder but am resigned to knowing it will take a while. I need to learn to be more patient!
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I love this post! I completely agree. I’ve been doing a Dave Ramsey approach to start with – the emergency fund, the budget, the snowball. But what I can’t get down with is the thought of doing away with some of the things that bring joy to my life until I’m retired and I can THEN and only then (if I should still be alive and healthy) take that vacation I’ve dreamed of. Instead, in our house we balance our lives to take some pleasure now and defer others for later. We live frugally for much of the year and this allows us to fund our one must-have luxury (in our family that’s world travel).
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I agree with those who compare it to dieting. I paid off about $35K too and even working 7 days a week it took a lot of time – about 3 and a half years after a few false starts. My step mother felt that I should put absolutely everything on hold, that even spending $15 on a the occasional meal out with friends was a shocking waste that would entirely derail my efforts. But I couldn’t take 3+ years out of my life. I have to live with the mistakes I made, with the emphasis on live. Her comments such as “if I owed that much money, I’d eat peanut butter sandwiches every day until I was out” ignored the fact that I was learning how to budget properly, to eat nutritious and varied meals on a smaller budget, to live my life on a less spendthrift scale than before. I couldn’t lock myself in a room and eat bread and water until I was out of debt – just thought made me want to run off and buy myself ‘treats’. Maybe if I’d owed a smaller amount that could be knocked out in a few months. But not for that amount of money.
Now having paid off $35K I’m trying to lose 30kilos (65 pounds) (I figure one is no less impossible than the other) The same sensible moderation approach seems to be working. Just really slowly
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Excess is never good in anything. To me, it is most important to have a reasonable debt reduction plan identified and established. Once that is done, then the rate at which the debt is paid back becomes essentially moot.
My $0.02 (after taxes)
Len
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Ok, I admit I haven’t read all the comments, so I’m probably repeating something a bunch of other people have already said.
But cutting out every frill in your life, all luxury, all fun money, while you pay off your debts is like going on a starvation diet and thinking you can maintain it while you lose 100 pounds.
It’s not sustainable.
We don’t have non-mortgage debt, but we’ve had to pare down our budget thanks to health issues, childcare and salary cutbacks thanks to our economy. There isn’t a lot of padding in our budget. (I think what hurt most when we had to re-balance it after the salary cutbacks was cutting down the amount of savings, but that’s another issue.) But even with our budget feeling very bare bones, we made sure there was still some money to cover gymnastics class for our 4.5-year-old and we put $40 a month into our “entertainment” budget, which is essentially anything that we find fun and makes us happy. It’s often spent on a babysitter so my husband can get some downtime when he’s not working or taking care of our daughter. (My health issues mean I can’t keep up with her if I’m alone with her.)
Anyway, that’s my two cents.
cheers,
Aviva
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I personally have been about 70% of what Dave Ramsey calls “gazelle intense”. So every now and then, I really do let myself have fun. Kind of 1-2 events a month, going out for drinks or a small meal. I have budgeted $75 dollars a month for entertainment. Now, to be honest, I haven’t used it most months mostly because I have been preoccupied with family events. However, I think allowing yourself a little fun every now and then will help the habit of staying out of debt. Remember when debt was fun, and you traveled on your credit cards and shopped ’till you dropped? Remember when you buckled down and threw every last penny at your debt and sat at home totally miserable? If you are miserable, don’t you think it will be more easy to pick up the “fun”" (aka debt) lifestyle again?
We have done very well with our debt snowball, and are having fun knocking out our debt. Done with credit cards by next week. Done with the car at the end of the year, then completely debt free. We have enjoyed working extra to pay off our debt, but allowed a little fun and games, and also, we didn’t say YES to every extra job possible–we needed a little break!
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We paid off $55,500 in 12 and half months and yes we were obsessive about it and yes we spent that year living very lean. However, we also took a paid for vacation together and we each took a paid for vacation separately.
Adding up how much debt we had after we got married and Mr. Sam’s debt became mine (in my mind) was a major shock to the system. Changing how we spent money (no credit cards, just debit) and tracking our spending was also a shock.
I found that being obsessive really helped us kill the debt in a short period of time and I was all for short term pain and dramatic changes to get a quick result. And once we started making good progress on our debt snowball it got sorta fun and certainly exciting to kill debt after debt after debt.
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Being afraid to give up “luxuries and fun” indicates a spoiled, immature mentality–the very one that got you into debt in the first place. (I speak from experience.) If you really want to be debt-free, you must let your thinking grow up. Change your definition of “luxuries and fun.” Because right now, debt is a luxury, and that’s the first definition you should change.
If you’re planning a big wedding, unplan it. Marriage isn’t about being a bride and a groom, it’s about being a husband and a wife. You need money (and often debt) for the former, but not for the latter.
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IIIIIIIIIIIIIIII’M DEEEEEEEEEEEEBT FREEEEEEEEEEEEE! My husband is going to the bank AS WE SPEAK to get a cashier’s check to the tune of $7609.25 to get Citibank off my back. We subscribed to Dave Ramsey’s philosophy of debt elimination and we did it. It took us four years. HOWEVER. We went as cold turkey as reasonbly possible. We still had cable (though basic) and we still went out to eat occasionally (basic restaurants) and we still splurged on “stuff”. But nothing, I mean NOTHING compares to the feeling of (pardon the forthcoming bad grammar) not owing nobody nothing! New purses do not feel this good. New shoes do not feel this good. New living room chairs do not feel this good. Indescribable.
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This past month I realized that my dedication to eliminating our debt had spiraled down to an unhealthy obsession. I looked at myself and realized I had crossed the line from frugal to cheap and I felt like I have been in a cage of my own making. The best I could do at keeping expenses low was always becoming the ‘new standard.’
JD’s words on balance were encouraging to me. I think, for me, giving myself margin is key. Yes, I try to keep daily expenses down, but I can’t always get the absolute best price. Yes, some fun money is important as I will enjoy my life as we finish off paying this debt and then move on to other ways to bring a healthy balance to our finances. I think there are times when I can still sprint to pay more towards debt, and then balance that with other times when I lower my pace.
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Good article. I’m in the moderation camp, always have been, always will be. Long term, yes, I want my debt gone, but right now, paying it off would stop me from living the life I want to live. And I’m not talking about living the high life, eating out every day and buying clothes all the time. I’m talking about marrying the man I love and getting to a place where he can quit the job he hates and start a business he loves. It’s one thing to give up the little pleasures in life, which I’ve gladly done, but I won’t give up our dreams to pay off debt.
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@rma – Yes, you speak from your experience, but you shouldn’t project your experience onto everyone else. While many people are in debt due to a “spoiled, immature mentality” others are in debt due to schooling, bad luck, medical bills, or many other reasons.
And yes, a wedding is a luxury. Some people are willing to pay for that luxury though, whether due to religious reasons or familial obligations or pressures or just plain old personal reasons. Obviously, you shouldn’t be stupid about it and spend more than can be afforded, but there’s nothing wrong with having one.
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Well, it isn’t necessary to be obsessed with paying off your debts. I do think, however, that that’s a good thing (for the most part). But, just be sure that it’s a healthy obsession. When it starts taking over your life (and even your skin!) then that’s a red light right there.
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@Slinky,
You talk about wanting the debt gone, but not at the expense of living the life you want to live. You then go on to mention things that would be so much easier with little or no debt holding you back. Take a look at how much you are paying in interest to your debt and visualize how much faster you could afford that wedding or future hubby’s new business if that money went into savings, instead of your creditor’s pocket.
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Frugalality, like marriage, should not be entered into lightly. Zealous enthusiasm often results in shell shock and burn out!
We should be joyfully knocking down that debt and joyfully approaching frugality.
Frugality teaches us to enjoy the wonderment of life. A walk in the park is better than a trip involving travel, stress, over spending, worry over the weather etc… it’s the attitude of gratitude we must try to embrace!
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I have about $20,000 worth of debt. I want to get out of debt as soon as I can!!! But I have to be realistic: stuff happens. Every year I have to get my car fixed. I’ve had my car for about 9 years and I’ve spent $5000 on maintenance. Three years ago I had to get new bearings: $700. Two years ago I paid for a used transmission & labor: $2000. That was an unexpected expense. Then I had to get a new alternator: $400. I can pay off all of my debts in 8 years–if I’m dedicated and no financial emergencies pop up. I don’t need any more financial emergencies! I barely make enough money to survive. If I didn’t have to spend money on my car, I’d pay off my student loan…or buy a few luxuries. I don’t spend money on gas to visit family & friends. I just watch TV or use the internet for entertainment. Sometimes I just sit in the park and read a newspaper. I don’t have money for fun. My salary gets better every year, though. That helps. Two years from now, I’m planning to use my annual tax refunds to pay down my student loan. I can pay off my student loan by the year 2015 if everything goes as planned.
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Having debit is no fun. I dislike owing money. The more money,the more freedom. I will be debit free. Sacrificing isn’t always easy. There are luxury items you want, but I agree that you can’t take frugality to the extreme.
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I was one of those people who charged it up on cards to live a lifestyle ahead of what I actually was supposed to be living in. When the credit card companies started calling and my debt rose I knew there had to be some drastic changes to my life. I found help through a great negotiation service and I am now on the slow road to recovery. I’m learning to say “no” to things I “want”, but do not “need”. I created a blog to help others with similar credit card debt problems, so please visit to read my story.
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@JerryB – That’s very true. I could save the money faster if I had no debts, but I can’t save it sooner. I’ve done the math both ways, and I’ve calculated the premium I’m paying in interest. I’m not stupid with my money, I know it’s costing me more in the end. But there are things in life that you just can’t put a price tag on, like dreams and happiness.
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I have a question:
I have 3 loans from college and my wife has 2 loans.
Here’s a breakdown of mine and my wife’s loans:
3 AES Loans – 1 fixed subsidized, 1 variable private, 1 fixed nonsubsidized
2 Sallie Mae Loans – 1 fixed subsidized loan, 1 fixed unsubsidized
How much can i consolidate these loans between us? I’ve heard or rules against consolidating between married couples. I’ve also heard of rules against consolidating certain types of loans. Any suggestions on how to get the best deal for us?
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I would definitely say I’m obsessed right now. I have been tackling my debt for about a month now, so I’m still in the early stages of paying it off. My lifestyle hasn’t changed significantly because the things I gave up were frills that never really mattered to me in the first place. I think once you’re really in the mindset of saving money, it doesn’t seem so scary to swim out into those cold waters. Time will only tell if I sink or continue to swim. Great article!
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I believe in being as debt free as possible, and if you got yourself into debt – you have to pay the consequences to get yourself out of it again as quickly as possible. Same thing as when you gain weight and then have to spend time to lose it – doesn’t happen over night. But, if you do it too slowly – you will never reach the goal.
If it were me, I would do my best to pay it all off as fast as possible. I would set a realistic (yet aggressive) schedule and stick to it.
Once you are debt-free – you can start really enjoying yourself within your means..
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