This week’s “Ask the Readers” is a little different. After reading Trent’s weekly “mailbags” at The Simple Dollar for the past year, it occurred to me that a similar format might work for Get Rich Slowly, allowing me to answer more of the reader questions I receive. This is a test of the concept.
What I’d actually like to do is keep the regular “Ask the Readers” for Friday mornings, but add a reader mailbag for Friday afternoons. What do you think? Would you like to see a new mailbag feature? Mailbag only? “Ask the Readers” only?
My goal is to be able to help as many people as possible, and to get you, the readers, to offer your input, too. Here, then, are the four questions and one success story I selected for this week:
Online IRA brokers
Gavin wants to open an online brokerage account:
I have an employer 401(k) that I have to rollover to an IRA or Roth IRA. I’m looking at online brokers like Fidelity, Vanguard, Wells Fargo, Schwab, etc. Any advice on which is the best? I’m mostly concerned about a broker that has no fees, and I can sit my money in an account that I won’t have to pay attention to all that much.
This is a fantastic opportunity for reader input. Which online brokerage do you use, and are you happy with it? I’m not sure there’s any one best answer. My Roth IRA used to be with Sharebuilder, but I’m in the process of moving it (and all of my other accounts) to Fidelity. I’m not a raving fan of Fidelity, but they have been helpful, have a good interface, offer some low-cost index funds, and most importantly (to me), they have a nearby office I can visit if I want help.
I’m curious to see what GRS readers recommend for online brokerage accounts.
Ally Bank and rate-chasing
David asks:
I’ve been reading your blog for some time now and I’m a big fan. Like you, I use ING Direct as my bank and am completely happy with it. However, I started noticing that Ally Bank has a significantly higher yield with a similar banking philosophy. I was wondering what your thoughts were on this bank and if it was worth switching.
Ally Bank is the re-named GMAC bank. The company is struggling now, and in order to stabilize is trying to obtain additional deposits. The increased financial resources will help them fund their needs, but some analysts believe the company will need another government bailout.
That said, Ally Bank is FDIC-insured and offers a great rate. If your deposits are under the current FDIC insurance limits, it might make sense for you to move there. I’ve not used Ally Bank myself, so I cannot comment on its web interface or customer service. You can probably find user experiences on the GRS savings account page.
Is rate chasing a good idea? That’s tough to answer. For some people, it can make sense. For others, it’s not worth the time and effort. For people just opening a high-yield savings account, I generally recommend going with a bank that earns high marks for customer satisfaction and offers high interest rates. For those with existing accounts, it’s a judgment call. I’m content with ING Direct. You may not be.
Paying down multiple loans with the same interest rate
Here’s Kelly’s situation:
I have been struggling with the best way to pay off four loans with the same interest rate. I want to pay these off in whatever order will have the least interest paid overall. Here are the loan amounts:
- Loan A: $6,006.34
- Loan B:$8,162.38
- Loan C:$10,924.89
- Loan D: $19,156.14
Current Interest rate on ALL four: 6.75%
Number of payments left: 197I’d like to pay an additional $300 per month, but don’t know if I should apply this extra money “strategically” across the four loans or only to one. Does it make sense to pay the highest loan first so that I can tackle the interest portion of each payment earlier rather then later? How should I best apply this extra $300 each month so that I pay the LEAST amount in interest over the life of all these loans? I don’t care about the psychological aspect of paying these loans off — I care about paying the least amount of interest over time.
The answer to Kelly’s question is simple: It doesn’t make any difference how she pays these off. They all have the same interest rate. Assuming she pays an extra $300 every month, it doesn’t matter how that money is applied. In February’s post about using spreadsheets, I demonstrated the math on a similar problem related to interest earned on multiple bank accounts with identical rates:

This same math applies to debt repayment. My advice is to pay down the smallest loan first. It doesn’t affect the total interest paid, but it gets rid of a debt, which can provide a bit of breathing room, if needed.
Books and blogs about the next stage of money management?
Leslie writes:
I have been reading your blog for a number of months now and am a big fan. My personal situation however is perhaps a step or two beyond frugality, debt repayment, and beginner investing (which I find to be the most covered topics on most PF blogs) and I am wondering if you have come across any books or blogs you would recommend for people at the next stage of financial growth. (Call it ‘wealth management’ if you like…I don’t!)
I am looking for information on overall asset allocation (real estate, private business ownership and financial instruments), when it makes sense to stop contributing to registered plans, the best way to manage charitable contributions, etc. If you could point me in a general direction, I would certainly appreciate it!
To be honest, I can’t think of any blogs that cover this area of personal finance. I’m sure they’re out there, but I just haven’t found them yet. I would love to hear recommendations from readers. Also, please note that Get Rich Slowly will begin to cover more of this material in the future as my own financial situation improves. But it’s a slow transition.
As for books, I think there are a number of options, most of them a little dry. I’m currently reading The Quiet Millionaire from Brett Wilder, and while it has great advice, there’s no real “life” to it. Still, I think it meets Leslie’s requirements. Other books to read include:
The latter is one of my favorites. And although it’s not about asset allocation and the like, George Kinder’s The Seven Stages of Money Maturity is also an excellent “advanced” book on personal finance.
Success stories
If the money mailbag does become a regular feature, I’d like to share reader success stories and/or follow-ups to past reader questions. I think both of these can be fun and interesting reads.
Here’s a recent message from April, for example, that’s both a success story and an update on her “Ask the Readers” about whether to buy a car or pay off debt:
One huge benefit of getting our finances in shape is that I no longer HAVE to have my job. We can now pay the bills on one salary (though we’d have to suspend our saving), so as frustrating as office politics can be, I know I could quit if it was just unbearable, and that gives me a lot of peace. Right now I’d rather deal with it, keep increasing our savings, and look for something to transition into. But the point is that I don’t feel enslaved by my job anymore, all thanks to our efforts this past year.
By the way, you featured my question last year about going from two cars to one, and I thought you should know we did go to one car, used the insurance money from the other to start our emergency fund and pay off some debt, and we have yet to buy a second vehicle. It’s actually low on the priority list (building house, then vacation, then second car). I’m glad we didn’t listen to friends and family members who thought it was a bad idea.
That, my friends, is the first edition of the Get Rich Slowly mailbag. Would you like to see further installments? I’ll probably have to be more ruthless about editing messages and my responses, but this is roughly the form it would take. Let me know if you prefer this to “Ask the Readers”, if you’d like to see both, or if you’d rather have “Ask the Readers” only.
And, of course, please offer your advice to the people who submitted questions!
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Re: 401 K rollover: A Direct Rollover into a traditional IRA will trigger NO tax liability. However, if you roll into a ROTH IRA you will have to pay income taxes in the year of the rollover. Future withdrawals will not be taxed. If you are a young person with many years left to grow your IRA it may very well be to your advantage to pay the tax NOW and roll into a ROTH; if you are close to retirement that may not be your best option.
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I would vote no on the reader mailbags. On Simple Dollar, it ends up being just one guy’s advice. “Ask the Readers” at least gives different perspectives from the readers, AND all the comments pertain to just that one question (not the 10 that’s in a mailbag).
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Brokerages: I use both Fidelity and Schwab and am extremely happy with both: great customer service, lots of branch locations, Fidelity has a lot of good fund options and Schwab I use mainly for banking, but use my brokerage account because of my Schwab Visa (which I can not rave about enough) I haven’t looked into Schwab’s brokerage products as much as Fidelity’s
–@AnnieBlue – why your dissatisfaction with Fidelity?
Rate Chasing: I just deposited my emergency fund in a money market with Brookhaven Bank in Atlanta with a 3.0% APY (min 25K) which last I checked is ahigher than Ally. They also have a 4.5% checking account (with restrictions of course). For some reason they are not listed on bankrate.com (national or locl listings). So my advice is that people call around to their smaller local banks & credit unions in addition to checking the major websites if they are interested really finding the best rates out there.
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JD — I like the ask the readers — but one topic at a time please! this is a little confusing…
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@Gavin:
I’ve been very happy with Vanguard in terms of customer service, online security, and returns. My only complaint is the $3k min. for opening each new fund is kind of daunting in terms of diversifying your portfolio.
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I bought two 6 month CDs with Ally (GMAC) bank in March; at the time, the 6 month CD interest rate was 2.65%. Since then, their rates have remained some of the highest but have steadily crept downward each week (for instance, the 1 year rate is 2.49% today). I found them easy to work with initially, but some of the fine print was very confusing and it’s been hard to get some of my questions answered – for instance, my documents suggested that they will change the interest rate each week to account for market fluctuations, which is not normal for CDs. I haven’t gotten a straight answer on this yet, but I’m crossing my fingers since it’s not worth the penalty to withdraw the money now.
And JD – I like the mailbag and ask the reader posts, but I would prefer that each question is in a separate post so the comments address that specific question, and not jumble all the questions together. Just from an organization standpoint, that would make the posts easier to read. Thanks for running this blog! I really like it.
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I prefer Ask the Readers to the mailbag, but would be very happy to see both. Just please don’t ditch Ask the Readers for this! I suspect many of your readers read The Simple Dollar too – I know I do – and it might feel a bit much to have so many reader questions.
A mailbag is a nice addition, but don’t let it stop you doing what you usually do!
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I don’t like the idea of paying off the smallest debt first. While it *may* give you a psychological boost, there are other ways to get it.
I would make minimum payment on every debt. Then, any money left over for accelerated payment should go towards the debt with the highest interest rate. This would give you more breathing room.
Actually, I have made a little game of this. Using Google docs, I have created a spreadsheet of my monthly mortgage balance with my original mortgage. Now whenever I need a psychological boost, I look up my outstanding balance, see when I was going to achieve that in the original schedule and then calculate how many months ahead I am. Right now, I am about 150 months ahead (did some very aggressive extra payments for a while)
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I like the Ask the Readers section, and I’m not sure it’s very different from the mailbag: can you differentiate between the two? I did like what I read above, though it’s confusing to find responses that apply to the specific entries.
I *love* the follow-up idea, which reminds me of Click & Clack’s “stump the chumps” series.
JD, I like your voice a lot, and also like to have regular content. I think that means that some guest posts will be necessary, and that’s okay with me. It’s also a good way to introduce us to other voices (much like a roundup post can be).
A second writer might be interesting, if only to provide another perspective with continuous posts for your readers. I’ve found that I get more out of the Debt Defier’s contributions to the Happy Rock’s page than I do from the page founder’s posts, because the DD has more in common with my stage in life and PF.
All a roundabout saying of keep up the good work, I think.
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For those who feel the multi-topic mailbag comments get confusing or hard to follow only one topic’s responses: Determine a unique keyword for that topic to search (“find”) the page for the comments on that topic (many comments include the name of the person who asked the question, for example).
I feel that the “mailbag” is more about JD’s answers, whereas “ask the readers” is, by definition, all about reader’s responses in the comments. So, it makes sense then that multiple topics are covered (answered by JD) in the “mailbag,” but only one topic is fielded to the readers for “ask the readers.”
JD, if you choose questions requiring longer responses, you could make several single-question posts. Or would that go against the label of “mailbag?” After all, you don’t really need a bag for only one letter, right? Ok, bad analogy!
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I like the mailbag concept. As long as its not too frequent and the questions are unique/interesting in some way then Q/A session like this can be interesting to read.
JD is right about the loans. If the interest rate is the same then it doesn’t matter which you pay off first or how you spread around extra payments.
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I’ve got all 4 accounts IRA, IRA rollover, brokerage and cash management at Fidelity and am happy with most. The cash management account gives me versatility but the rate could be higher. I can shop CD’s from most places but don’t get as high a rate as if I had an account there.
I’d be interested in more ‘What Next.’ posts. Debt free, fairly frugal, emergency ready. Now what?
I kind of like the mailbags. It ads some diversity and introduces new ideas.
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Regarding the debt repayment question, Kelly should pay the extra $300 to the loan with the longest term first in order to pay less interest overall. Here’s an example:
Assume:
General: All loans are fixed rate, fully amortizing, fixed total payment loans. Also, that the largest balance loan has the longest remaining term.
Loan A: 36 remaining pmts; monthly pmt = 184.77
Loan B: 41 remaining pmts; monthly pmt = 223.48
Loan C: 48 remaining pmts; monthly pmt = 260.34
Loan D: 72 remaining pmts; monthly pmt = 324.30
Total remaining pmts = 197
If all loans pay as agreed, then interest over the life of the loans is:
Loan A: total interest = 645.47
Loan B: total interest = 1,002.20
Loan C: total interest = 1,571.66
Loan D: total interest = 4,193.34
Total Interest: 7,410.68
If the $300 is applied to Loan A, then B, then C, then D:
Loan A: remaining pmts = 13, total interest = 237.20
Loan B: remaining pmts = 25, total interest = 721.37
Loan C: remaining pmts = 36, total interest = 1,365.97
Loan D: remaining pmts = 54, total interest = 3,626.67
Total remaining pmts = 128
Total interest = 5,951.21
If the $300 is applied to Loan D, then C, then B, then A:
Loan A: remaining pmts = 36, total interest = 645.47
Loan B: remaining pmts = 41, total interest = 1,002.20
Loan C: remaining pmts = 41, total interest = 1,495.57
Loan D: remaining pmts = 34, total interest = 1,931.37
Total remaining payments = 152
Total interest = 5,072.62
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@Gavin: Online brokerage… I’ve used USAA and Fidelity and they’re both good. I’m not sure you should be in a brokerage account, but rather a mutual fund account, if you really meant you want your money “…in an account that I won’t have to pay attention to all that much”.
@David: Chasing yield… I wonder if it affects your credit rating if you’re opening and closing bank accounts every year? Or, do bank accounts (quantity, age, or velocity of change) not affect credit ratings?
Also, in today’s environment I’d check a bank’s rating with Weiss Ratings to ensure return OF principal (long term concern) since I think that’s more important return ON principal (short term concern).
@Leslie: Financial books… First, read ALL the books on finance at your local library – then worry about what other books to read. Frugal, and balanced, remember? My favorites are Mises, Rothbard, and Hayek books – but I’m more afraid of inflation than anything else (you may now mock me if you wish). The great thing is that if/when your job requires a move, you get to start on a whole new library’s worth of financial books!
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I want to thank everyone for the feedback. It’s GREAT!
Right now I’m leaning toward:
* periodic (monthly?) mailbags for frequently-asked-questions
* a more permanent Ask the Readers — I only put it up about 60% of Fridays now, and I’ll try to make it closer to 90%
* addressing other reader questions via actual posts during the week
This combination would provide a great compromise of responding to reader requests and generating new content.
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I would love to see more follow-up posts from the Ask the Readers segments to see how they ended up managing, so we can learn from their successes as well as their mistakes.
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If I had 4 debts at the same interest rate and n$ available to put extra payment, this is what I think I would do:
1) put n$ extra into the lowest debt until it is paid off
2) put n$ + previous minimum payment of paid-off loan into the next lowest debt until it is paid off
3) put n$ + minimum payments of both paid-off loans into the next lowest debt until it is paid off
4) etc…
that way, you can increase the rate at which you’re paying off your debts.
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@Aaron, You’re tricking yourself and not looking at the bigger picture. IMO, paying extra into the largest loan is the worst thing Kelly can do based on the information she gave. Assuming she keeps her combined debt payment amount constant, it does not save her ANY measurable amount of interest.
@Debbie M, I agree with you whole-heartedly. Your advice is great in that it’s saying to look beyond the numbers and consider other practical realities.
I strongly agree that the extra funds should goto the smallest balance, and I want to emphasize the reasoning. This advice comes from thinking about future cashflow, which sometimes isn’t as predictable as we’d all like. In my mind, it’s similar to having an emergency fund, in that it provides choices/flexibility. Eliminating one of the balances will reduce the OVERALL monthly minimum payment. The fastest one to eliminate is of course the smallest balance. Then, if something bad happened where you had NO extra money one month, the minimum payments would not drain your cashflow as much.
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I like the mailbag. I vote for doing both features.
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I think that you should focus on quality over quantity. If someone pitches an idea for a guest post or you see someone write on a topic you really identify with then do a guest post. Don’t simply do a guest post to meet a minimum number of posts goal. Perhaps re-evaluate your underlying objective behind that goal; is it still being met?
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I vote for no mailbag at all. I look at Trent’s wedsite on occassion and am floored. He answers some questions that are out of his league with regards to how to invest. If he had a degree in finance or economics he could provide answer.
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I just want to add that I agree with Sceptor (and others) about the recent direction of the blog. There’s been too much filler (guest posts, this mailbag post — which btw is really hard to follow in the comments since people are responding to different queries). This blog is losing the personal touch that made it a daily read for me for over a year — now I find myself spending less time here. Would love to see a return to the “old” GRS; don’t become a cookie-cutter blog!
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We use Fidelity because we each have a 401(k) there. Were it not for that constraint, I would absolutely use Vanguard because they have the widest variety of index funds.
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I’m with Cely and some of the other posters who see mailbag, ask the readers, etc. as lazy filler. Sure, everybody deserves a day off, but I would much rather read J.D. originals or really good guest posts most of the time. I hate the roundups and carnivals…. I can go web surfing and find that stuff myself.
Bottom line, I wish there were more J.D., less junk.
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JD:
I take issue with your comments that Ally Bank is struggling. It would be nice if you provided some source material for those comments. According to a recently published letter from the CEO to the ABA, Ally Bank is well capitalized.
http://www.ally.com/messages/AllyResponse-060109-forWeb.pdf
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JD,
I did not like the mailbag too much but I think it’s got potential. Maybe if the questions were more related? That way, you don’t have to weed out the comments. Right now it is a big jumble of opinions. I think it also affects the quality of the comments. I like “Ask the Readers” but better if you can actually make sure the “Reader” featured makes it a point to respond to comments on that day. It helps make the conversation interesting.
As for guest posts, I was disappointed about this too but now that you have explained it, I understand. I wonder if it is because you don’t have time or not enough topics (doubtful) or you want to write about something else. Daily posts are one of the things that kept me engaged here and I really appreciate it. I also understand that the site is evolving. By all means, include guest posts but maybe less frequent? How about you take weekends off? I don’t read GRS on the weekends but I try to catch up on Mondays. Good luck on your quest for continuous improvement.
-Charlotte
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I am a new reader…been reading for a few months. Started on the financial track 10 years ago or so then got sidetracked and am now trying to take control again.
I like Vanguard. Ten years ago, I started monthly deposits to a few different funds at a few different companies. Vanguard has always been easy for me to use, even when my financial life took a backseat to everything else.
As for the mailbag, could a separate comment section be created for each letter? I know this would be inconvenient for those who wish to post to several letters, but it would allow those that have similar questions to more easily track the replies. Maybe a comment section for each question and one for the column as a whole?
Keep up the great work and thanks for being part of my financial rebirth…
Travis
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I absolutely love the idea of an “Ask the Readers” follow up being part of these. I also love Trent’s mailbags…so I guess it’s no surprise that I like this format for you as well.
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Actually, to maintain flexibility of cashflow, don’t pay the extra money monthly. Put it into savings instead until you have enough to pay one loan off entirely. This will cost you some money (interest rate difference between loan and savings account), but it will help protect you in case of a future cash-flow problem (you’ll have access to the cash up til the actual payoff).
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I’m late here, but I would also like to cast my vote for more posts by you and fewer guest posts. A blog offers a distinctive voice and the guest posts dilute that. Also, some have a very commercial vibe, which I think detracts and distracts!
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Yes, I like this format. It let’s you give shorter relatable advice a la Suze with JD flair (and still being relativistic in approach). Best of all, if piece of “mail” is particularly hot, it’s natural to write a more in depth piece later on.
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I like the idea of a second writer at GRS to focus on frugality and debt reduction while you continue your journey into new areas of money management. Being a newbie to your site, I need the debt reduction advice right now, and not the investment advice.
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I vote for mailbag plus ask the readers, just as you propose with mailbag being somewhat less frequent.
And I would just like to give 3 cheers for more frequent posts, even by guest authors!! I don’t know what these guys are talking about by cutting down on guest posts, a day without a new article at GRS is like going to Facebook and no one posted to your wall. Boring! More posts is definitely better, seeing as this is the only PF blog I read, I just want to be able to see something new at least once or twice a day (dare I hope for twice a day?!)
I don’t find mailbag comments confusing whatsoever, since most people are pretty clear about which question they are responding to. Nor do I think this blog is in any danger of becoming cookie cutter or copycat. But hey when you changed the appearance of the blog, I was the one grousing, so I guess it’s other people’s turn now.
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Online IRA Broker – Scottrade all the way. You only need $500.00 to open an account. No fees and only 7 dollars to make a trade no matter if its 1 share or 10,000 shares.
I have a roll over IRA from my old employeer with them. Plus Scottrade has won the J.D.Power award for best online broker 7 or 8 times.
http://www.scottrade.com
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heck yea!! bring it on!
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One thing I would enjoy seeing you and maybe some guest posters address would be the strategies for retirement planning (or maybe “life planning” is a better term?) for couples with very different life expectancies.
Maybe “strategies” is too strong a word. If one of you expects to live another, say, 40 to 50 years and the other is likely to get only 25 to 30 more years – what are some good questions to guide your planning? What have other moderate-income folks done in similar circumstances?
I’ve thought of things like disability insurance and long-term care insurance, but I would love to hear how other people have dealt with, suffered from, enjoyed or otherwise addressed things pertinent to these situations.
The planning issue before me right at this moment, for example, is “how can we be fair to the longer-lived partner (by having sufficient resources) and still be fair to the shorter-lived one (by allowing a reasonable number of years in retirement)?”
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