“Don’t you have any tips for single folks?” I’m often asked. Like any writer, I tend to write from my own experience — that of a married man. Fortunately, there are plenty of single people in the GRS community who are willing to share the things they’ve learned. Here’s a guest post from Kinley Levack about how she and her sister hold each other financially accountable.
Over Christmas 2007, my sister Michelle and I started chatting about our finances. We had independently come to the same conclusion: we each needed to get our act together. We decided that beginning 01 January 2008, we would help each other move in the right direction.
Sharing accounts and goals
We started by baring it all. We both made lists of our debts, accounts, etc. I had already spent about two years knocking down a credit card balance that had crept up to nearly $6,000. But I had virtually nothing in the way of savings, and had only recently begun contributing to a 401(k).
Michelle’s goals were primarily related to debt reduction. She had accumulated a couple of store credit cards that she wanted to pay off, as well as an outstanding amount due for a class at a local university. She had fairly limited savings.
We each created a document listing:
- The amounts we contributed to our savings and investment accounts each month
- The amounts paid toward debts each month
- Our monthly goals
- Our major expenses each month
- And so on…
A simple Microsoft Word document with a page-per-month view worked best for me.
Performing a monthly review
At the beginning of each month, we send updates to each other with that month’s set of goals, the most up-to-date figures for each account, and a quick recap of how we did with the previous month’s goals. My updates are never more than one page in Microsoft Word. They take about 20 minutes or so to pull together.
Some goals are very specific. One of my goals in January 2008 was to increase my 401(k) contribution from 3% to 6%. But other goals are more vague. Michelle noticed that her Starbucks spending was getting out of control, for example, so she worked to be more aware of what she was spending there.
Each January, we also develop year-long goals.
Over the past 18 months, Michelle has nearly paid off all of her debts. (She has a little left on her primary credit card.) She has also substantially increased her savings, and in the past five months alone has raised her credit score nearly 100 points. I have increased my savings to cover almost three months of expenses, fully funded a Roth IRA each year, and set up a holiday fund that I contribute to monthly to cover Christmas expenses. (That seems to be a budget-buster for me every year.)
Providing support!
This has been a great accountability system for both of us. As sisters, we have no problem calling each other out when we think the other one is being irresponsible. But we are also incredibly supportive of each other. We’re both in our twenties, so we have plenty of time before retirement, but we needed to get the ball rolling toward being financially fit.
This partnership also works well because we have similar mindsets about saving and investing; we have a lot that we want to accomplish, but we also want to enjoy ourselves now and have about the same tolerance level for shopping, dining, and travel. I think it’s important to have a counterpart with roughly the same idea about saving versus spending. If one of us was a big shopper and the other super-frugal, we’d probably just irritate each other.
Michelle and I haven’t ever discussed an end point to this system; we just keep learning as much as we can and making bigger goals. We’ll see how it all turns out. So far, so good!
When you have a spouse or partner, you generally have built-in financial support. I think Kinley and her sister have discovered a great way to lend each other support, even while remaining single. Photo by Snippets 101.
This article is about Hints and Tips, Real-Life, Relationships, Tools Wednesday, 24th June 2009 (by J.D. Roth)


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June 24th, 2009 at 5:57 am
Mr. Sam and I do this for each other and as a team. When it comes to bigger expenses (anything over $300) we have to talk about and agree which is sometimes hard since we each get one vote.
I also do this with my best friend who I got started on Ramsey’s Total Money Makeover.
Hey JD, great quote today on MSNNC.
June 24th, 2009 at 6:02 am
Nice post. There’s really no one who can understand the way you were raised to think about money like a sibling. As well as your spouse knows you, he or she might not understand the little quirks you inherited from your parents when it comes to managing and not managing your money.
June 24th, 2009 at 6:33 am
What a great post! Thank you for sharing.
June 24th, 2009 at 6:36 am
My best friend and I have been informally keeping one another accountable for the past year. She got a handle on her finances before I did, but was so supportive of me getting on board. Since we both owed to a variety of credit cards, cars and student loans and shared similar long term goals (marriage, home, kids), it never felt too embarrassing to admit to some of our less successful endeavors. It’s also been helpful to learn from one another about personal finance. For example, she and her husband learned a lot while just applying for a mortgage about the impact of being self-employed on their income verification. That’s been incredibly valuable for my husband as well as he is also self-employed.
We aren’t as formal as the writer of the post, but do keep each other updated regularly over email. And we make sure to have a mini-celebration when one of us achieves the next level of debt reduction / increase in savings.
I think that what’s been most successful about it is that we share very similar goals and values. So we’re working towards them together.
June 24th, 2009 at 6:40 am
Though a nice idea, this would never work in my family. My sister and I am are 13 years apart (I’m the older one) and were raised in completely different financial situations by our parents. I am a frugal, hardworking, 401k contributing engineer. My sister is a care free, free spirited, spend thrift. Is it because she doesn’t remember getting tennis shoes from the bin at K-Mart? Possibly. Is it because she doesn’t remember when Pepsi was considered a treat because Faygo pop was just as good and only half the price? Not likely. But it probably was the fact that being the youngest and growing up in a house of means gave her the impression that this is how everyone lives. I’ve tried to give brotherly advice and point her to my frugal ways, but I realized that what her special is her openness and spirited ways. Oh well, their will always be nieces and nephews to show the ways of the tightwad.
June 24th, 2009 at 6:43 am
Savings buddies…great idea! I am an only child and have been trying to get something like this going with my girlfriend, but we’re still quite a ways apart on our views of money. But we’re getting there. Being accountable to someone else makes attaining any goal that much easier, in my opinion. Though I can’t think of any of them right now, I know there are a few websites out there aimed at helping you achieve your goals by allowing you to post them to be viewed by the community and track your progress towards them. You have a section dedicated to this in the forums as well. Cool ideas, but I sort of want something more personal.
Maybe Get Rich Slowly could incorporate some sort of pen-pal-like system to match readers up to do goal sharing like this - on a sort of buddy system.
June 24th, 2009 at 6:46 am
The ideal is great especially for spouses to make sure they stay in budget and rework their goals over time.
June 24th, 2009 at 6:56 am
Sharing your financial goals and missteps is a fantastic idea. For far too long, money has been a subject to be discussed only behind closed doors-even leaving kids in the dark about financial matters. The result: repetition of mistakes that could easily have been avoided.
Having a saving partner with whom you share your goals and progress is a great idea, and it’s much like having a weight-loss partner. Each person keeps the other in check and motivated.
For those like Jay, you can go it alone. You just have to be more disciplined. Write down your goals and post them prominently near your wallet, checkbook, and/or computer-whichever is your poison. Sliding a wallet-sized picture of a Maui beach, for instance, in the same slot as your credit/debit card can pay big dividends. The most important thing about money goals isn’t having them or sharing them-it’s using them to make your money decisions. Using a group technique is just one way of overcoming the psychological barriers we have instilled in ourselves regarding spending.
June 24th, 2009 at 7:08 am
Excellent post! And it could apply to everyone, not just those unencumbered by a spouse. I particularly love the idea of having a calendar of goals, and I’ll probably adopt that.
June 24th, 2009 at 7:20 am
I’ve been thinking recently about something like this, though not having just a buddy but something more like a support group. I tend to function best in an environment where there are fixed meetings and ‘homework’. I think being held accountable to a group is more effective for me, plus I think there would be the incredible benefits of sharing ideas and positve encouragement.
Does anyone know if something like this exists?
June 24th, 2009 at 8:46 am
I know all too well the importance of an accountability partner. While looking for a podcast on how to save money, I stumbled upon Dave Ramsey. I raved about his financial philosophy so much, I convinced a friend to start listening to him.
It’s weird, but even after listening to Dave Ramsey for months I was convinced not paying off my car or student loan was a good idea. Especially since the interest rate on my student loan was only 1.625%. I planned on keeping that puppy around until 2020.
My friend kept pressuring me to get rid of both debts. She even paid her car off before me. If it weren’t for her, I’d probably still be in debt. I really didn’t have anyone else in my life who was trying to get their financial house in order.
To do this day, we still discuss the intricacies of our personal finances. She’s trying to pay off a second home, while I’m saving for my first.
June 24th, 2009 at 9:37 am
As a single person, I’ve found that I don’t have a lot of people in my circle whose financial circumstances are at all similar to mine. I have been involved in an all-purpose goals group, through my church, where we set targets and then report at the next meeting, whether it’s finances or decluttering or career development or whatever, and that’s been somewhat helpful, although mostly we haven’t been inclined to be all that strict with each other. I find, though, that just knowing I’m going to be reporting on something on a regular basis is helpful, whether I get any feedback or not.
June 24th, 2009 at 9:57 am
Great post. I wrote about this a few weeks ago, but it’s great to see it working in action.
June 24th, 2009 at 10:04 am
Great post. I have been doing this for years with a friend of mine who is married (her husband does not always share her financial goals.) We meet once a month for dinner and discuss our financial successes or setbacks. We have different goals but hold each other accountable.
June 24th, 2009 at 10:33 am
This is really great. While 8 yrs younger than me, my sister shares a lot of my financial outlook. I had dinner with her and her BF last week, without my husband, and we ended up talking a lot about savings and IRA’s and stuff like that. I don’t have conversations like that with my husband; our outlooks are too different. We compromise reasonably well but he really doesn’t want to talk about the merits of Roth vs traditional IRA’s, and I don’t feel right discussing how much I’m saving at 35 while he’s 50 and still struggling with credit cards and old IRS debt.
June 24th, 2009 at 10:33 am
I have friend who might be a great partner for me in this process. She and I are in a pretty close situation money wise and I think it would help us both out. I am already writing down every penny I spend each month, so it would be pretty easy for me to keep up with any trends or extras. My biggest thing right now is getting my savings to a higher level.
June 24th, 2009 at 10:48 am
Working together as a team to achieve individual goals is always a wonderful thing to do. I enjoyed reading this article.
June 24th, 2009 at 11:04 am
Great post! Althoug I am married, I can see how this can be very useful for anyone. As a matter of fact, this could work even for non-financial goals.
It’s great to see a different perspective in GRS.
June 24th, 2009 at 11:05 am
This is fantastic. I really appreciate that my siblings and I are open with each other about our financial situations. One year when we were together at the holidays, my younger brother shared a spreadsheet of his income and outlay and I was SO proud of him, and pleased he’d be so open with the information. I’ve also successfully nagged both my younger siblings to get started on retirement savings, though I suppose they deserve the credit for actually doing the work! We’re all three single, and if we don’t look out for each other, who will?
June 24th, 2009 at 11:24 am
The article is directed at singles of course, but there are married people who might need your advice too! Not all marrieds are able to discuss finances with each other, and some are in entirely different orbits when it comes to money. I found this out the hard way in the mortgage business when ordering credit reports.
Absent a spouse or a sibling, trusted friends or accountability groups are worth investigating. Try a group at your church, there may be one already established and if not, try to get one started. People tend to be more open and also less judgmental in faith environments.
June 24th, 2009 at 11:41 am
Hey J.D.,
I think Kinley has got a good thing going. She brought up one point that struck a cord with me,
“If one of us was a big shopper and the other super-frugal, we’d probably just irritate each other.”
… and that’s exactly what happened when my wife and I got married because I used to be the super-frugal dood and she was the shopping-spendy type; not a good mix.
It took us about a year after getting married to get a handle on our new budget and finances. We’ve been in good hands ever since.
I’ll admit that it was tough in the beginning because we both had to compromise - I had to stop being so cheap and my wife had to cut back on her shopping
Once we set financial goals that we both agreed on it got much easier. It was at this point that our habits began to change because we both knew we were working towards the same goal.
June 24th, 2009 at 11:43 am
I really like this idea. Sometimes a girl just needs somebody to tell her what she already knows–that another pair of shoes is a stupid purchase that is keeping her from her goals, rather than a normal friend who will not want to offend you and will help you rationalize the purchase.
You do need another person with similar goals or else they will reinforce bad habits or be counter-productive.
June 24th, 2009 at 11:51 am
Excellent system! It inspires me to continue working with my fiance on financial accountability - we’ve noticed that our relationship has become more solid as we’ve began to discuss our financial goals more regularily.
June 24th, 2009 at 2:24 pm
I really enjoyed this post, as a single lady. I have one close friend who is a peer but also a little bit of an inspiration (she has already paid off her entire apt. and I haven’t even bought one yet!).
The timing of this post is interesting because I just saw this tool today, Smarty Pig (www.smartypig.com) and it’s supposed to allow you to share your savings progress and goals with friends/family. I’ve never tried it but was attracted by the 2.75 interest rate (so it says; haven’t researched it too much yet).
June 24th, 2009 at 7:21 pm
Great post! It is always inspiring and motivating when you hear a story like this.
This is a great way to build your net worth as well as a relationship with someone at the same time.
June 24th, 2009 at 8:07 pm
Interesting idea but I cannot imagine ever teaming up with someone to manage my finances. It doesn’t seem either practical or realistic for a single person. Quite capable of doing my own research, setting my own goals, and getting where I want to go.
June 30th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
As a 50’s something single woman, I am frugal out of need. I am engaged to a lovely, younger (just a few years -9)hard working man with his own business. Oh! but what a spender. He owns a well drilling business, but handles money poorly. When the work is good-great, but I have seen poor choices during slow time. I prefer to keep our finances seperate. I am one that watches each penny, he lives for for the moment. I refuse to get married until we have the “BIG TALK”. It is in the future, (i hope). I think it is easier to handle finances as a single. You only have yourself to blame. - ummm - maybe it is better to have someonee to shift responsibility to? Not!