Employee or Entrepreneur? The Pros and Cons of Self-Employment
Published on - July 10th, 2009 (by J.D. Roth) In my recent review of Pam Slim’s Escape from Cubicle Nation, Chett left the following comment:
I was talking with a good friend last week who is self-employed. I told him I envied his entrepreneurial spirit and the ability to “go it alone.” He told me he envied my work as a teacher and the set hours and guaranteed pay check and insurance. (I told him there was nothing “set” about the hours, so I guess we both misunderstood each others work.)
So many people dream of working for themselves and only find out the true benefits and heartaches after they make the leap. Take you for instance, what do you miss the most from the box factory in terms of security, or interaction? What bothered, (or motivated) you the most to drive you to self-employment and what have you learned about your decision over the past year and a half?
In the same thread, Caitlin wrote:
Every time I real an article like this I wonder if I’m really that unusual because I love my job. I’m a molecular biologist, and it’s just not something I could do on my own…I’ve had a small side business for over 5 years. In that time, interesting and educational though it was, I’ve learned that I don’t particularly want to run a business.
I am not one who believes that everyone should be an entrepreneur. I think there’s a sort of continuum: Some folks should absolutely work for somebody else, others should definitely work for themselves, and many should do a little of both.
Although I tend toward entrepreneurial endeavors, I don’t consider myself a die-hard entrepreneur. The best job I ever had was actually flipping burgers at McDonald’s when I was in high school. I’m not kidding. I loved that job. My fellow employees were smart and fun. Together, we made serving burgers and fries a game; we tried to do the best job we could. Our manager was great, and she fostered this attitude instead of stifling it with bureaucracy.
Since then, I’ve had jobs I loved and jobs I hated, and many that just paid the bills. I’ve also tried self-employment twice: once as a computer consultant, and now as a professional blogger.
Here are my responses to Chett’s specific questions:
What do I miss from the box factory?
I miss daily interaction with my family. My father began the business almost 25 years ago, and since then there have always been several family members involved with the daily operations. I also miss talking with my customers. As much as I disliked the actual sales portion of my job, I genuinely liked many of the customers I dealt with. I find myself wondering how Robert is doing, and whether Lance finished building his house.
There is almost no social aspect to the life of a professional blogger; I sit here alone in my office typing all day. While this is intellectually challenging, I miss seeing people and being a small part of their lives. This is one reason I’ve struggled with my restaurant spending over the past year. I often go out to lunch simply to be near other people. It’s also one reason I rented office space.
What motivated me to self-employment?
There were a couple of things. First, I did not like my work at the box factory. I did not like sales. I wasn’t good at it, it didn’t interest me, and I found it frustrating.
Meanwhile, I wanted to write. I’ve always wanted to be a writer; I just never knew how to make money from this desire. When I stumbled into personal-finance blogging, I was startled to learn I could make an income from it. It seemed natural to make the leap to professional blogger once that income sustained at a level that could support me.
What have I learned about my decision over the last year-and-a-half?
There’s a difference between blogging as a hobby and blogging as a job. When you’re blogging as a hobby and the income is “extra” income, the process is fun. It’s a lark. But when you throw the switch and it becomes your sole means of making a living, some of that fun vanishes.
I still love what I do — no question — but sometimes I feel as if I’ve lost the spontaneity I used to have. That’s one reason I’m hoping to reduce my workload around here a little. I’d like to pursue other projects: write a book, dabble with other blogs, possibly promote financial literacy education.
There’s a lot of pressure when you are required to generate your own income. Sure, there’s pressure when you work for somebody else, too, but there’s also a sense of freedom. You’re not responsible for the daily decisions. And if you don’t like the job, you can leave. Plus, the actual source of income is not your responsibility.
I often think that working for somebody else is like renting an apartment; working for yourself is like owning your home. Both have their rewards, but they each have drawbacks, too.
Conclusion
As Caitlin mentions, not everyone is cut out to run a business. It just doesn’t interest them. My wife is a perfect example. Kris loves her job. It’s challenging and fulfilling, and she enjoys the interaction with her co-workers. She has no desire to strike out on her own.
As always, I think it’s important to do what works for you.
Now I’d love to hear from you. Have you ever been self-employed? Did you love it, or did you hate it? What prompted you to pursue entrepreneurship? What do you envy about those who work for somebody else? Or, if you work for somebody else, are you content with where you are, or do you envy about the self-employed? What is it that keeps you doing what you’re doing?
McDonald’s photo from DRB62.
Update: Erin from Unclutterer (one of my favorite blogs) has posted an article that seems related to this — at least in my mind. She explains how to have it all.
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Interesting look at the pros and cons of working for yourself.
My father started his own business when I was seven. I barely saw him after that, as he put all his time into making the business work. He finally closed the business when I was 25. It was a long 18 years for the family. Let me have someone else worry about all the issues of business, I want to have some time for enjoyment in this life.
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I’m an employee (writer) working to be an entrepreneur (freelance writing, web design, photography, art). I took the first steps by taking freelance jobs, volunteering for nonprofits, and selling art at a local art market. It takes discipline. I sleep three hours a night most of the time, and the investments haven’t paid off yet. I know being an entrepreneur is completely exhausting, but I feel like it will be worth it to get paid to work on projects I love.
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I’ve done both. What I learned when I was independent for ten years was that to be successful, one has to be very well-rounded. The primary work needs to be done, but so does purchasing, accounting, contracting, benefits, etc.
I finally realized that I’m not well-rounded. I’m a focused specialist. I now work for the man and do just what I love all day everyday. Then I go home.
Great learning experience though — everyone should try both.
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Interesting Post. I struggle with the isolation issue issue all the time. And there are times I miss the regular paycheck, but wouldn’t trade the illusion of freedom I have for anything.
Here are two blog posting I have written on self employment as an artist..one is about isolation.
http://hughespottery.blogspot.com/2009/06/morning-coffee-and-isolation.html
http://hughespottery.multiply.com/journal/item/889/Making_a_living
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Great article. There’s definitely a spirit of entrepreneurship in a lot of the personal finance blogs that I read, but it’s refreshing to see a perspective that includes some of the negative factors that come into play with doing so.
I am employed at a privately held software company. The management is very progressive, the company culture is great, the business is debt-free and I (and others) receive regular bonus checks from profit sharing. The company has been consistently profitable since inception and has no plans or need to ever go public, so we completely control our own destiny. I’ve been here nine years, and sometime last year, my cumulative profit sharing bonuses equaled my salary, so it’s like I’ve been paid for ten years in nine.
Also, I was able to get a Master’s degree using the company’s standard tuition reimbursement benefit. I had to fill out a form, get some signatures and make sure I got a B or better in class, and it was covered. This quite literally saved me $15K I would have needed to pay otherwise. I’m considering going back for another Master’s degree in a year or two — why not, it’s essentially free money on the table.
I’m also blessed in that the company believes strongly in goal-setting and career development. Right now I’m working on a plan to transition to a different role in a different department. I get the training I need to do so, in addition to lots of support from the department I’m trying to join, as well as a set of goals to meet to make the transition a success.
Also, working for a company I don’t need to deal with things like taxes, benefits, software licensing, computer troubleshooting and a thousand other things that I probably never know are essential for running a business day to day. Also I work probably about 45 hours a week. Night or weekend work is extremely rare, and I have at this point over a month of paid vacation a year. There’s no asinine sick time policy (PTO), either — if you are sick, you stay home and get well, and it doesn’t come out of your vacation time.
All that said, it’s not perfect. The company’s work from home policy is silly. There are politics and unhelpful people to deal with. The way some things work are downright bizzare. I could get fired or laid off. I have been reorganized into another department once and then reorganized into a group that made no sense. When I started, there were 400 employees, now there are over 2000, so there’s a lot of bureaucracy that has grown up, and some things take forever to accomplish. Also, I would love to move to somewhere warmer, but that’s not really an option because headquarters is most certainly not going to relocate anytime soon.
But for now, I’m happy to stay employed and mentally engaged here. I might be interested in doing side work, but that would be more to earn a little extra cash and not so much to strike out on my own.
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I’m self-employed for now (also as a work-at-home writer).
I absolutely love it.
That said, I definitely know what you mean about the loneliness. I’ve found that interacting with other bloggers helps that to some extent. But face to face interaction can’t be replaced with online text.
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I am now just retiring after 30+ years of self-employment in graphic design, publishing, photography, film and video. In the early 70s I left a management position at a prestigious academic press, and more recently I spent 3 years with a government contractor. In contrast to these positions, above all else, I appreciated the ability to control the ethics and morality of my business. My wife assisted from time to time, but I did not hire employees. We retire without great wealth, but we have savings and investments, two homes, cars and a motorhome, with zero debt. And we spent 7 years travelling across the US (not as part of work, but adapting the work to fit the wanderlust). My advice for a service business entrepreneur is to create some product of your own because it keeps earning even if you must stop working for awhile. The biggest mistake I have seen among fellow entrepreneurs is the lack of a realistic exit plan. Make one from the beginning (it can always be modified).
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“I often think that working for somebody else is like renting an apartment; working for yourself is like owning your home. Both have their rewards, but they each have drawbacks, too.”
Nice analogy. Will use. Thx.
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I’m self-employed, working as a software developer, and I certainly echo your issues with loneliness and fatigue when it comes to sales.
I’ve been on my own for about 3 years. The first year and a half was great. I tripled my old salary and had more work than I could handle. Now that the economic climate has changed, so have my clients’ budgets, and thereby my income.
I plan to tough it out, to see what the future holds. My wife and I have made some decent financial decisions (a big thanks to GRS for help with that!), and being debt-free certainly buys me some time to experiment with fewer repercussions.
I’m keeping an eye out for both tech innovations and economic opportunities. A big issue for me that brushes on loneliness, is a lack of examples/mentors to follow. No one in my family has ever started a business, and it’s difficult to discuss issues with my friends when they work for large corporations and rarely face similar issues.
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I had a software business. I was making more than twice what I do working for someone else, doing the same work.
I relied on someone else to do the accounting. Though I instructed them to put 25% of all income into an account for taxes, they did not.
When 9/11 happened, the financial destruction that followed destroyed my business. That poor accounting is still affecting me due to the extreme amount of taxes i am paying off in the aftermath.
I loved the money, the freedom, and the prestige of being my own boss, and I will pursue it again, some day.
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I am currently a self employed financial advisor. There are many great advantages like freedom and creating your own schedule etc, however there are also a host of stresses that many people don’t realize.
I have to wear many different “hats”. I am not only the financial advisor but I am the marketing guy, CEO, & manager. It is sometimes hard to juggle all of them. When I am on vacation, I still have to worry about things getting done.
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I have a part-time job and several of my own businesses, all of them small and very different from one another, so I have a lot of variety. This works incredibly well for me. Working only at home alone was excrutiatingly lonely, and working only at a company was exhausting and boring.
Working this way has given me enough control over my time to allow me to improve my health, save money, THINK, and appreciate my work colleagues as well as my private clients. I am grateful to my boss for having to shoulder all the responsibility for running his organization, and I am not paralyzed by fear by the downturn in the economy…if I get laid off, there’s just another twenty hours I can use to further my businesses and my ambitions.
Thank you for a great post. I have said as much to my students, in that full time self-employment, while challenging and often more lucrative, does not give them the benefits of being part of a large organization and learning what one can from that experience. Being a “company man” or “company woman” can be a great, interactive, years-long lesson in dealing with people and understanding human nature.
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I work full time in graphic design and have started a freelance business on the side from contacts I’ve made in the business. I love the stability of being an employee and interacting and learning from my coworkers, yet know that I can make more money doing freelance. So next year I plan to ask my employer if I can switch to part time and then use my other hours to devote to the freelance business.
A big factor in this decision has been health insurance. I got married last year and am now under my husband’s health insurance. If this hadn’t happened, freelancing would not be an option for me.
If I went self-employed full time, the loneliness would get to me too. The days that I’ve worked all day on freelance I’ve brought it to a coffee shop for part of the day to be able to get out and interact. JD – perhaps the restaurant/coffee shop cost is something you can build into your business, kind of like a mental-health investment? Too bad it’s not tax deductible!
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JD,
Thank you for addressing the question I asked. When I wrote the question last week I had been wondering, if your transition from blogging on the side to full time work as a blogger and entrepreneur was as glamorous as it sounds to the general public. Nearly everywhere you look working at home, and working as little as possible is glamorized and sold as if you’re not on that track you’re a fool.
I have never worked for myself full time. My website and the knowledge that I have gained in construction and home improvement have been my only source of income that I have generated “on my own.” I like the creativity and sense of ownership in the work I do for myself, but I need security in income and employment, so I don’t know if I could ever make the leap to being self-employed. Like you though, the more time I spend on my hobbies that I enjoy, the more they feel like actual work and some of the new car smell wares off.
I enjoy teaching, and know that there are some opportunities that may present themselves in the future that I will enjoy even more. Still though, like many people, I tend to reflect on the jobs that I have done in the past, wishing I could pull what I liked about each one of them, then blend those work experiences together for the “perfect career,” regardless of weather I’m working for myself, or someone else.
Something tells me the “perfect career” is an illusion and simply increasing my overall contentment and self-awareness will lead to all the satisfaction I really need.
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I owned a snow cone stand and t-shirt business at one point. I now work as engineer and miss the freedom and pure fun of my businesses. I’d like to get my hand back into it.
I understand the loneliness thing. When I was in engineering school I would be in the lab by myself for 40 hours a week. I often went to coffee shops to study just so I could talk to the baristas.
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There are a host of pros and cons that each of us has to weigh and it is, as you imply, often much to do with personality and preference, but as the molecular biologist points out for example, not all endeavors have practical paths for loners.
Also, in this country there’s a definite prejudice toward “entrepreneurs.” The phrases “not cut out for” and such always imply that you’re simply a lesser being if you’re not a proprietor, that if you’re not on your own you haven’t the aptitude or ability for it. That may not be the case at all – and economic forces beyond our control may increase the risks of entrepreneurship in some industries to make them impractical. In some climates it makes more or less sense to take on more or less risk, and ANY kind of work carries some type of risk with it now.
Finally…saying that some people “should work for somebody else” puts emphasis where it doesn’t belong. People don’t work for someone else in order to work for someone else. You note that there’s a lower burden of responsibility in being an employee and that’s the real point – not that there’s anything wrong with that. If someone wants to be the best at their specialty without having to learn a whole industry from top to bottom and handle everything themselves (delegated or not), and if such a situation meets their personal goals, there’s nothing wrong with that. Being a member of a team where everyone in the company is collaborating for their common good is a fine thing.
(There is no question that many, many companies have been a nightmare of anomie, uncreativity, and nothing but abusive prisons for faceless numbered peons…but it doesn’t have to be that way.)
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I’m with Hogan – I’m the type of person who needs variety, but I’ve learned over the past few years that I really value stability and human interaction as well. Being fully self-employed would cause me more anxiety than exhilaration, but I do crave flexibility. So, a combination of part-time work for someone else (steady income, less responsibility in terms of keeping the business afloat) and a side business of my own would be ideal. Now, to make that happen…
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JD,
Thanks for always being so honest with your day-to-day emotions!! That’s very hard to do so publicly (and rare), but I guarantee you people won’t forget what you write because of it. It really does help!
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I’m in an interesting place at work now where I am pretty good at what I do and I really like my co-workers, but I don’t particularly care for the work itself. Like you mentioned with your sales gig,I don’t find it interesting and am regularly frustrated by it.
Interestingly enough, I love doing all the little administrative tasks that come with running your own business. It might actually be my favorite part, as funny as that might sound. It provides a lot of variety in the breadth of tasks that you’re exposed to and keeps things interesting. Working for a large firm, I’m more of just a cog in the system hired to do 1 job and do it very well.
In high school, I lived in a small town and ran a little hay bailing operation with a few friends during the summer. My favorite part of that job was talking to farmers and working out deals.
In college(and I’m a bit embarrassed to admit this, I ran a small scale ticket resale (read: scalping) gig. I loved the thrill that came with the high risk and high rewards of each purchase and sale. In the end though, I didn’t feel like I was providing much value to my customers, so I quit doing that.
Now, like yourself, I blog a little on the side about something I’m passionate about. I don’t make any money yet, and even if I never do, it’ll will still be a good career development activity as my content is fairly applicable to the industry I’m in.
So I guess I would say that I fall somewhere in the middle of the spectrum, not happy with just being a cog in the system, but not displeased enough to make the leap to full-time entrepreneurship. It can certainly make for some long days and weekends coming home from work and working on the blog, but it’s fulfilling and it affords me a stable paycheck for the time being.
I think anyone with a little motivation can find the time to dabble with a side business. Not everyone is fit for a full-time self run gig. A little something to keep your ticker tickin’ outside of the day job can be just what the doctor ordered.
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JD,
Schedule lunch dates!
I have been self employed and largely working from home for the past four years – after leaving a more traditional ‘employee-type’ relationship where I had co-workers and health insurance.
I do often go stir-crazy from the tedium of working alone. But if I schedule lunch dates with friends, or former co-workers, or clients – I get the social interaction I need during the day.
Even if I don’t do it every day, just seeing the dates on my calendar – for tomorrow or later in the week – helps me keep on track during my workday.
Also, NEVER eat at your desk when you work by yourself. Go out! On a nice day, take a walk or take your sandwich to the park.
Invite one or two of your local GRS readers to lunch. If you do this, it is a Legitimate tax deduction (I think). Everyone has a story to tell, and it is fun to listen to your fans.
Yes, a writers life can be lonely, and us introverts need to work hard to plan social outings, but you have to ‘just do it’. Once the plans are made, you will have something fun to look forward to.
All the best,
JKC
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“Have you ever been self-employed? Did you love it, or did you hate it?”
I was self-employed for a year, and I liked being self-employed, but I was in the wrong line of work (sales). I wanted out of my last office job so badly that I didn’t do the soul-searching required to figure out what would pay the bills AND would be a good fit for my personality and strengths.
“What prompted you to pursue entrepreneurship?”
I hated my job. And I thought that I’d hate any other job, too. I simply am not programmed to deal with bureaucracy and office politics, and I’ve found that no matter how much you try to avoid these things and just focus on doing a good job, they will affect you anyway. Maybe worse than if you were playing the game. I need authenticity and logic in my life. NEED it. I feel that life in a cube goes against the very core of my being.
“What do you envy about those who work for somebody else?”
Nothing, unless they have a work-from-home situation where they rarely had to go into the office, if ever, and still have the benefits and steady pay. That would be the only employee situation I’d envy.
“Or, if you work for somebody else, are you content with where you are, or do you envy about the self-employed? What is it that keeps you doing what you’re doing?”
I envy the self-employed. I’m working toward that goal myself. The thing that keeps me here is a paycheck, plain and simple. I know loneliness might be a drawback, and I’m not saying I won’t feel that, but as it is, I sort of keep to myself even now, in an office (I know it sounds awful, but I’ve been burned by people I like and who like me, so then who CAN you trust?). I’ve always been okay with being alone. In fact, I can be a real hermit sometimes, so I also want to teach yoga as a side business, and that should provide some interaction.
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I’ve been effectively self employed for 18 months. By that I mean I’ve been working as a bookkeeper for a small business (with 3 locations), I have the stress of being on the constant verge of not getting paid and the duties of a beyond full time job. I’m basically in charge of making sure other people work so I get my income. I’ve decided for the level of stress and work I put in I’m not getting enough out so I’m going out on my own in a few weeks.
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Years ago, I had a mutual parting of ways with my employer, a not-for-profit counseling center. I took my clients and started a private practice, which was wonderful for 5 years and agony for the next 5. It was the isolation that got me, especially after I moved the office into my home. Also the administrative details. I began to feel like my world was growing smaller and smaller, closing in around me. So on a whim, I took a job as a dialysis social worker and I’ve loved so many things about it, especially the wonderful diverse people I’ve met, the activity level, a steady paycheck, benefits, the meaning I derived from helping others, the challenges. Now, as the job becomes more about paperwork and insurance and government regulations, and less about being with patients and staff, this extrovert is feeling a bit stifled again, and wondering what’s next! I’d like something that combines my need for high people contact and and activity level with a steady paycheck and benefits, opportunity for travel, diversity (can no longer live without it!), space/time for creativity, autonomy, flexibility. And NO COMMUTE!
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Great post. It’s nice to see some coverage of the good points of having a job working for a company. I like where I work and what I do and the life it leads me lead.
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Yes, there is a great amount of freedom that comes with being an entrepeneur. I love the flexibility, I love being able to work from home, I love the creativity involved and I love providing a service to people that brings them happiness and makes them smile. Most of all, I like doing something that is meaningful to me, and I enjoy the interesting people that I meet.
One great challenge, I think, to being an entrepreneur, especially if you are small and cannot employ people, is taking a real vacation! My business involves custom orders and deadlines, so I never know when I’ll have a day or two off. A week or two off is an impossibility at this time. This is troubling for me, since I would really love to travel.
I have run a small side business for about 4 years now, and I love it. I have grown to the point that I could work the day job on a part-time basis. Being cooped up in an office all day has never been for me. My goal is to cut the day job entirely. That is another great challenge, finally cutting the “apron strings” and learning ot fly on your own. The transition isn’t an easy one….
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I don’t think the line can be drawn so neatly between employee and self employed. Many times we blend across those lines and forget categories. I have written an article covering more ground on it and referring back to yours.
http://www.askthewealthsquad.com/blog/is-self-employed-all-its-cracked-up-to-be/
I have been an employee, self employed and a business owner as well as a volunteer. Many times I have been in all four categories at the same time. Makes life interesting to say the least.
Risk and responsibility tends to be the major separator between employee and self employed. As anyone who has been laid off recently, being an employee isn’t necessarily a risk free place to be. More often it is just an unseen risk.
I agree that not everyone should be or can be self employed or a business owner. It requires a different mindset and set of skills. But the world needs both to be successful. Every business owner is glad to have someone who is an excellent employee. Every employee is grateful for a business owner who is successful and continues to delivery value to the world.
Excellent article. I enjoy your posts very much and look forward to the next ones.
Sincerely
Scott
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Very briefly, before I head out the door to the Escape from Cubicle Nation workshop (irony):
The ‘loss of fun’ in the shift from hobby to profession is a story I’ve heard a lot. For example, I had a girlfriend who loved video games. She networked herself into a career reviewing them. In the space of just a few months, she found that she had started to hate games. All the joy of playing them had been sucked right out. She stopped reviewing, got her CPA, and is now happily doing corporate accounting.
However, having experience on both sides of the equation, I still prefer to make a living from something I care about, when that’s possible.
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“According to the U.S. Small Business Administration, on average, self-employed people make more than those who work for others”
“make” is a pretty vague statement. Obviously the gross income could be much higher if you charge $50/hr for your services, but what is the net income after paying things like health insurance, self employment tax, etc? Buying equipment and software? Renting office space?
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When I’m not writing blog comments I do accounting for an employer in the town where I live. I can ride a bike to work every day and this is something that really feels good to me. I don’t love my job nor do I hate it. It’s ok, but most days it doesn’t feed my spirit. For the past 10 years I’ve also done bookkeeping work on the side for one or two other businesses. I do this work to help others and also for the extra income. Additionally, I started a clock repair business about 5 years ago. I enjoy bringing an old grandfather clock back to life. It started out slowly, then got quite busy, so I stopped advertising to slow it back down. I’ve thought long and hard about starting up a blog or website business and so far have not done so. I fear success. When I think about employment I think about time slipping out of my hands no matter if it’s working for myself or someone else. My wife tells me I’m never going to be satisfied in a job – it’s my attitude that’s fouling me up. (I’ve tried being more positive, but it never works out.) ;o) Ideally, if I could be my current age with enough passive income to meet my habits I would choose to do whatever I wanted – for little pay or free. I’d plant trees for a nursery for awhile, help build a house, work at a bike shop for a couple months, help my nephew on his farm, get better at playing guitar, tour the U.S. on my bike, etc. I’m saving and have $40,000 left to pay on the mortgage and I’ll eventually reach what I crave, but I’m afraid I will be a much older person by then. I guess what it comes down to for me is that once again my wife is correct-it’s my attitude. I hate when that happens.
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My husband and I both became self-employed quite young; I opened a retail store when I was 24 and he became an independent consultant at 25…we already had a mortgage, 2 kids and 2 dogs. We cannot imagine it being any other way…HOWEVER, it is certainly not for everyone. We spent a full decade without taking a vacation longer than 5 days and a lot of our time was spent engaging in tasks outside our chosen fields. (ie. as a retail store owner I was able to choose what to buy and sell, hire staff and decide on merchandising displays and marketing promotions, but I also got to sweep the floor, remit payroll taxes, count inventory and countless other less-than-enjoyable activities…and when my full time manager broke her jaw and was out of commission for 6 weeks, guess who got to do double duty?)
I think the key-like with everything-is to know yourself and to pursue the path that is truest to your goals and personality…there are pros and cons to both, but how they are weighted is unique to the individual.
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The timing of this article for me couldn’t be more perfect. Today is my last day of a 10 year carrer in corporate marketing before I officially leap into entrepreneurship. I’ve been running a specialty cake & chocolate side business on nights, weekends and “vacation” time for the past 5 years while enduring 3+ hours of commuting and a 9+ hour workday five days a week.
I worry that I’ll miss the daily interactions with my co-workers, and I sometimes question if I’m totally nuts to be a solo entrepreneur, but I guess only time will tell.
My husband & I have scrimped and saved over the past five years and are personally financing the build out of the bakery and all initial business costs, which I know will put us back into a little bit of debt. It’s taken us five years to save up enough cash (over a year worth of emergency fund)and pay down nearly all of our debt (all we have left is our mortgage) – and the fiscally responsible part of me is freaking out about going back into debt again.
At the end of today, even though I realize that I won’t be getting a steady paycheck, I won’t be getting paid on days when there’s nothing to do, I’ll still owe rent even if there are no orders, and I’ll be acting as; general contractor, business manager, customer service, baker, decorator, delivery person & every other position needed – I won’t have the regret of always wanting to follow my passion and not having enough guts to do it.
Here’s hoping that the build out of my space is quick, the orders are steady & the bakery is a success!
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I have a day job now and a couple of side businesses, but have been completely self-employed in the past. For me, it’s more a matter of not being cut out for corporate work. Who I AM is an entrepreneur. Lonliness isn’t a problem for me as I don’t get much interaction at my job anyway, but when I was strictly self-employed I did crave a change of scenery quite frequently. I did things like running errands during the day, taking walks, and going to work out.
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I am not even a little bit interested in being self-employed. I get bored very easily.
My current position as a floating chemist (I’m backup for whatever department is currently too busy to handle) has me doing different things every day. I don’t have to deal with the minutia of departments, either. My job is to put out fires. Plus, my place of employment lets us set our own hours!
My MIL is one of those people who thinks that if you don’t own a business, you’ll never be successful. She wants my SO to open a business and have me take care of the books. We didn’t -quite- laugh in her face when she proposed it, but I think we got across that any business with me in charge of accounting is a doomed business. Too many annoying details.
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I’ve been self-employed for over 12 years as a free-lance graphic designer. Prior to striking out on my own, I was working in an in-house creative services department at a state university. Because I had such regular hours working for a state university, I was able to build my freelance business. I did my full-time gig, and freelance on the side for 5 years, before I decided it was time to freelance full-time. During those 5 years, I saved all the money I made on the side.
I’ve found working as a full-time freelance graphic designer very fulfilling. I’m making considerably more than I was when I worked for someone else. But, I’m also working harder, and longer hours. I’ve been blessed with regular clients that send me steady work. I also have a retainer agreement with a client who pays me a set amount every month. Having a stable base income has eased the stress of income swings.
One thing I’ve learned over the years, is the value of an emergency fund. If you’re self-employed it really can’t be big enough. I have a decent personal emergency fund, and am working on building a larger emergency fund for my business. And I do have to tap into the emergency funds at least once per year. Having both emergency funds, have made it easier and less stressful to get through slow periods in my business.
The other thing I’ve learned, is the value of setting aside money ear-marked for taxes in a separate account. Early on, I made the mistake of not separating my tax money from my operating expenses. I had an incredibly large tax payment that I owed, and did not have enough money to pay it. I had to completely wipe out my personal emergency fund in order to pay that tax bill. It took me 5 years to pay myself back. Since then, I set up a separate account specifically for tax money, and I deposit a set amount in that account every month, so I can pay my quarterly tax payments. I also have regular deposits set up for my individual 401K.
As far as loneliness, I have a studio outside my home that I work from. My studio is within walking distance of my home, in an old mill building housing other artists, designers, photographers and other creatives. About once a month, I schedule a lunch date with someone. I tend to do a lot of group activities on the weekend, so I can keep up my social skills!
Self-employment really suits me and my personality. Full-time freelancing has allowed me the flexibility to pursue some of my other passions. I also like the challenge of wearing many different hats. If I absolutely had to, I could go back to working for someone else. But, it would be a tough transition to make.
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I have been self-employed (working from home) for almost 13 years. I fell into it, in that I was laid off from my previous job for a large insurance company, my kids were young (1 & 3) and I wanted to be at home with them for a while. So here I am, still working at home (full-time now) and probably will be until the kids are done with H.S.
I’m not doing what I want to do in terms of employment, but I can bring in a decent salary & have been and am still able to be available for the kids for school functions, MD appts., etc. The lack of adult interaction is the hardest part. It does get lonely & if it wasn’t for the dog I would probably be talking to myself. The phone is a life-line to the outside world for me along with a couple visits to one of my client offices during the week.
What I miss most about working for someone else is paid time off. If I take time off now I need someone to cover for me. Also, if I don’t work, I don’t get paid. I think the last vacation I took (like a whole week off) was 5 years ago. Now I’m just taking a Friday of Monday off here and there.
All in all, I am very grateful that I have been able to be at home while my kids were growing up. Sacrifice of time and my dreams of work that I want to do, but it has definitely been worth it to me. The kids will be gone in a few years & I can move on to the next stage for me at that point.
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I have a good job now. I am a year of out university and making a really good income. My job is temporary, though – possible of extension – so that always worries me. Sometimes the work is fun, other times it is not. I want to start my own business, though, and am doing research on the side and saving money. I’ve always had the entrepreneurial spirit, and something about calling the shots and making my own hours thrills me. I want to do what I REALLY want to be doing. This job is great for now, but years down the road I don’t think I want to do 9 to 5.
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I am currently self employed and I love it. I started my web store back in November while I was still working full time. My idea was to keeping working at my day-job until we relocate or I am able to quit my job from my business.
Life had different plans for me and I had to go on full-time disability in March. I wasn’t able to put that much time into the business because of what I was dealing with physically, but now I am able to put more time into it now that I am doing a little better (but still out of work).
I guess I’m grateful I was able to start my store and blog while I was still able to do it. I doubt I would be able to start now.
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The part about the loneliness is very interesting. You have thousands of readers who feel very connected to you, but the portal is not running both ways.
I haven’t listened to the podcast but I wonder if this is also because you and Trent are more family and home oriented?
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I do both part-time.
For me, the things I like about being self-employed as a freelance graphic designer is that I can set my own hours, and stay in the comfort of my room to work. I don’t have to worry about a long commute or any strife with other co-workers, and I feel independent and in control of my work. The cons of self-employment for me are lack of health insurance, sporadic pay, high self-employment taxes and being responsible for my own social security taxes, and the lack of other employee interaction.
The things i like about my part-time job with an employer are the benefits of health insurance, sick days, 401K with company match, the fact that the company helps pay into my social security taxes and a steady paycheck. The things I don’t like about my part-time job with an employer is the low pay, infrequent monetary raises, and the inflexibility with scheduling as well as being on the bottom of the corporate ladder, so to speak.
Of course, this is my own particular case, everyone else’s mileage may vary.
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You’ve already went out and got your own office space. How about finding other bloggers in your area to share a space with? It would be great for socializing and collaborating with other people on ideas. I’ve read a blog post about it not too long ago….I’ll see if I can find it again.
Here it is:
http://lifehacker.com/5191974/the-pros-and-cons-of-coworking
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So many great comments. Instead of addressing them individually, I’m going to sort of ramble.
Kris and I had a great talk about this last night, about my continued loneliness. During the conversation, I mentioned that two of the issues I have right now are (a) loneliness and (b) a lack of material to write about. These actually stem from the same source. When I’m closed up in an office all day, I’m not interacting with people. This interaction is what stems the loneliness, and it’s also what gives me inspiration for some of my best posts. “My favorite articles to write are reaction pieces,” I told Kris. But if I’m not out in the world, I have nothing to react to.
I do go out to lunch with readers and colleagues when I can, but I find that if I go out too often, I spend too much money. Also, a lunch takes more time than you think. I budget three hours (no joke) for every lunch, and that’s a big chunk out of my day. Still, it may be possible to find other ways to connect with readers and colleagues.
I’d love to do something like Michael (#40) suggests: Create a space where other local bloggers can come together to write. The problem is finding a way to do that sensibly. Something to think about.
Also, as many of you have suggested, it does seem like it’s time to bring on another writer. I’m not talking about replacing my writing completely, but finding somebody to contribute one or two articles a week so that there’s a regular voice. Readers don’t seem to mind the idea of guest posts, but the do prefer a consistent voice, and rotating guest posts don’t offer that. I’ve already accumulated a pool of six potential candidates, and they’re working up “audition” pieces that I’ll share during August/September. We’ll try to get a second writer around here to help with the workload.
Anyway, there’s a lot going on behind the scenes here as I strive to make this a fun and informative site. I don’t mean to ramble on about it (especially since tomorrow’s post covers some of this same ground — it’s the results of the recent survey).
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I’m an engineer at a silicon valley tech company. It’s one of these progressive companies with no set work hours, an unlimited vacation policy, fantastic health insurance, and $100k+ salaries (I don’t say six-figure because that includes up to $999,999, and probably 90%+ of people with ‘six-figure’ salaries make between $100k and $200k). I have great co-workers and am around interesting people whenever I go into the office, which is only three days a week.
There are plenty of other perks, too. I don’t actually own a computer, since work supplies me with new ones whenever I decide my current one is getting old. I have a 401k with my money in a low-cost index fund (people online all seem to think this is impossible with 401ks). I’m moving this weekend, so I sent an email to my manager telling him I’d be working from home today until I finished my requirements for the week, then I’d take the rest of the afternoon off to pack. No one bats an eyelash at these sorts of requests.
Good luck with your home-business, but I’m really pretty happy where I am, thanks.
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I have been toying w/ this same issue for years. My father when he retired from the military became an entrepreneur. He was very successful, but i never saw him or my mom outside of work again after that. They both worked 80+ hours a week but we never sat down to dinner together or took a family vacation where we ALL went together and every summer and wkd I was home was spent pitching in to the family business in some capacity.
This wasn’t all bad, i lived a very comfortable childhood. My parents shipped me off to California every summer for ‘vacation’, but my parents never once talked to me about working for myself. Mom said go to college, dad said join the military. I did both.
I have worked for myself part time for close to 10 years now I tried to do it full time for about 2 but I realized I desired the normalcy of my regular job, the steady pay check, the health benefits the comaraderie etc etc
The money was great when I was working for myself full time but the hours sucked. EVERY day of the week was work and every trip was business related. Then there is quarterly taxes, health insurance, payroll blah blah blah. Downsizing and going part time still has it’s hassles but after a full’s day work at my job if i don’t want to answer the phone for my business I won’t.
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I absolutely dream of having my own business or at least a position that allows me to make my own schedule. Currently I work for a college and can take classes for free which helps with the boredom of my job (secretary to an arrogant dean who thinks secretaries don’t have brains). I already have a degree but I love learning. My major setback for having my own business is Health care benefits. My husband is a diabetic and I have an 8 year old that seems to need a doctor a few times more than just the one for before school starts. We almost went bankrupt with medical costs when his employer raised premiums and the annual deductible the same year he had chest pains that took about 4 months and multiple tests/procedures to discover his gall bladder simply didn’t work. When I got my current job we immediately changed to my health care plan. I fear every year that the premiums and deductibles will once again go too high for us while we try to get the finances under control. We are definitely made for working for ourselves but our fear of the future health care costs keeps us imprisoned.
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I’ve been laid off recently and have been struggling to find another job. I have also been toying with starting my own business in computer repair. I would love a full-time job at a company with benefits. But at the same time I would love to be in control of my own business. Sure the investment and the work from the start will be a struggle, but I see the potential for rewards and success to be better than if I pursued a full-time position. Only problem with that would be responsibility for things like insurance and taxes. Working for someone else, they take care of that for you.
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Wow Tyler #42, I’m so happy for you. I hope your dream job lasts in an economy that can and has easily go to shit at the blink of an eye. I hope you’re not putting all your eggs in one basket as so many people do in their comfy, cozy jobs while laughing a the rest of us “wage slaves” that actually have to WORK and not play to earn a living.
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@JD–Have you thought of volunteering regularly? I know some organizations help people get back on their feet with finance education, interviewing and resume assistance, etc. Or maybe doing something completely unrealted to PF would offer more inspiration. Either way, you’d interact with fellow volunteers and with those who benefit from the cause.
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I am a self employed piano teacher. I love the teaching but hate the money collecting aspect because it can really affect the relationship the parents have with you. I am easy going with payments, but people get weird when they owe you money.
So this year I am offering one free month payment if they pay a yearly fee by November so I can just keep track of the amount of lessons. One Mom did this last year and our friendship blossomed. Our discussions focused on her child without conflict about money.
I feel my time is better spent on my students and planning what to teach than dealing with money issues.
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I’m with AD…perhaps a research topic would work well. You could work or volunteer at various places, post on your research periodically and use that to make a new series.
Topics like ‘Poor in America’ that deal with the realities and poor choices being made are interesting, but also the new stigma of class warfare brewing (you know, the whole “down with the rich, let them pay the taxes, let’s punish successful folks” stuff) would be an interesting read given your writing style and amount of thought you put into your articles.
And I agree with you JD. I really enjoy the articles on this site, but many of the reader comments are extremely thought-provoking. It all keeps me coming back daily.
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I’ve done three stints as a freelance writer. Each time, I returned to an office for a different reason.
The first time, it was the loneliness. I needed other people to talk to. I applied for a job I was interested in, got it, and was happy to be there.
The second time, it was the unpredictability of freelancing. I was making good money, definitely enough to support us, and yet, there was a month where I had to use a credit card to pay my mortgage, because several of my clients were behind in paying me…to the tune of well over $10K. That’s when I said enough is enough, looked for a job, got one, and was happy to be there for a long time.
The third time, it was the recent economic downturn, where my main freelance client (who was really, to all extents and purposes, a full-time employer for over two years) told me they’d only be able to use me for about a two-thirds of the hours I had been logging up until then. With an unemployed husband and two kids, that was financial ruin. So I looked for a job, got one, and am happy(ish) to be here. (I miss working at home now…When you have kids, the home-bound loneliness is a lot less than it is when you’re single, like I was during my first stint.)
Neither side of the fence really suits me. It’s hard stuff.
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