Kris called me at seven o’clock last night, just as I was sitting down to write the Friday “Ask the Readers” post. I was sorting through this week’s questions when the phone rang.
“Are you busy?” she asked. “Can you do me favor?”
“Maybe,” I said. “It depends on what it is.”
“Ryan’s car broke down,” Kris said. “He’s stranded here at the lab and can’t get home. Can you give him a ride across town?”
“Sure,” I said. But I did the mental math: The trip would take me a couple of hours. Because I hadn’t yet started on the morning’s post, I knew I’d be up late.
I drove to Kris’ office to pick up Ryan. Ryan’s a young man, just out of college. He did some temp work in the construction industry before getting a job as a scientist. He and his girlfriend are getting married in two weeks. They just rented a house together and are supposed to have moved out of their apartment by tomorrow. With Ryan’s car in the shop, that’s going to be difficult.
“What kind of work do you do?” Ryan asked as we drove across Portland to Beaverton.
“I’m a professional blogger,” I said. “I write a blog about money.”
“Stocks and bonds and stuff like that?” he asked.
“A little,” I said. “I do cover the details, but a lot of the time I write about the mental aspect of money. I’m interested in the psychology, in the behavioral side of personal finance. I don’t know how your money skills are, but mine weren’t very good when I was young, and that’s mostly because I had bad habits.”
“I’m lucky, I guess,” said Ryan. “My parents taught me about money, so I try to do the right thing, like avoid credit card debt. I try to.” From the way he said it, I thought that the whole car repair/wedding/renting a new house combination might be taxing his reserves.
“Thanks for the ride,” Ryan said as we pulled into the apartment complex.
“No problem,” I said. “I’m happy to do it. People have done the same for me in the past. It’s my turn to pay it forward.”
As I drive home — windows down, the Mini’s sunroof open, listening to 80s synthpop — I thought about what it was like when Kris and I were starting out. I remembered what it felt like to go through the motions of adult life, hoping that I was doing things the right way. “It’s too bad I didn’t have an instruction manual,” I thought.
But what would an instruction manual for personal finance contain? What would have helped me most when I was starting out? What would help me most now? Instructions for how to invest? A list of steps for buying a house? Tips for avoiding overdraft fees? Or would I have profited from the more psychological stuff — like how to deal with failure?
At stoplights, I jotted down a list of the five things I really wish I had known when I was younger:
- Why it’s important to pay yourself first. My father tried to tell me this when I was nineteen, but I just wasn’t ready to listen. Now, after having watched Kris sock away up to 25% of every paycheck for the past decade, I understand how important it is to set aside savings — for vacations, for home-buying, for retirement — before doing anything else with your income.
- How to harness the power of compounding. I wish somebody had shown me a chart demonstrating the difference between paying a credit card company 18.9% interest on $10,000 versus a bank paying me 3% interest on the same amount.
- How to avoid the seductive trap of lifestyle inflation. As my income grew, so did my spending. In fact, my spending grew faster than my income. It never occurred to me that I ought to save this money. And it took me years to understand that most of the Stuff I was buying would end up gathering dust after very little use.
- How to avoid the chains of debt. Debt is slavery. The less you spend, the more flexibility you have. Because I developed debt early and quickly, my choices were limited. I had to take any job I could because I was tied to the monthly payments. And then, once I’d recognized the error of my ways, it took years to break the chains that bound me.
- How to save on things both big and small. My friend Ramit seems convinced that small frugality doesn’t matter. I disagree. I’ve never really had a problem saving on the big stuff. I research the hell out of most expenses over $500. It’s the small stuff that has killed me, and that’s largely because I thought it didn’t matter. The small stuff does matter. If I’d known that sooner, I could have avoided a lot of pain.
“What do you wish you’d known about money when you were younger?” I asked Kris when I got home.
“Well, I never really had a problem with spending or with debt,” she said. She thought for a moment. “I wish I had known to pay myself first, even when I couldn’t afford to save very much.” (This coming from a woman who saves a quarter of everything she earns!)
I get the sense that Ryan will do just fine. He has a good head on his shoulders. He’s being careful, even in the face of so many financial stressors. I just wonder what he’ll be thinking fifteen years from now, when he’s my age.
What do you wish you had known about money when you were younger?
This article is about Basics, Real-Life Friday, 31st July 2009 (by J.D. Roth)


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July 31st, 2009 at 5:09 am
Contribute to a Roth IRA, no matter how small. Later, when you actually have money, the Roth IRA is a great place to keep your fixed-income funds (like bonds).
I wish I had opened an account 10 years ago when I was in High School…
July 31st, 2009 at 5:20 am
Great post! I’m in the somewhat unique position of being young and knowing a good deal about personal finance and investing. I think you summed up the most important aspects really well. I think if all your readers forwarded this post to all the young people in their lives it would make a big difference.
Although, sometimes us youngins know what we should be doing (ie saving, investing, ect) but we just don’t do it.
It’s interesting that one can have a vast amount of wisdom and knowledge but if they don’t harness it and use it then it is almost worthless.
-Gen Y Investor
July 31st, 2009 at 5:47 am
If I could go back in time and tell my 20-year old self one thing about money, it would be this:
Never ever trust strangers when it comes to managing your money.
Friends and family may actually be giving you tips or advice to help you, but if a stranger calls or stops you at a kiosk in the mall or sends you a flier in the mail, no matter how good the deal sounds, it’s NOT in your best interest. Strangers aren’t trying to help you save money. They’re trying to help THEMSELVES to your money. Nobody cares more about your money than you do. Always remember that. If a stranger claims they can “help” you save money on your mortgage, or insurance, or mutual funds, or anything, you can guarantee there’s a hefty profit in the deal for them.
I was naive and trusting in my youth. I paid $40,000 for a VW Jetta because I trusted the salesman (”I know it seems like a lot, but it’s what everybody pays, and it’s not that much when you look at it as a monthly payment”). He was friendly, we chatted, and I trusted him.
Trusting strangers with my money has been the single costliest mistake of my life. I joined an investing club that professed to give its members the ability to invest in opportunities that aren’t available to “normal” people. I trusted them, and it’s literally cost me tens of thousands of dollars I’ll never see again.
This has been an extremely expensive lesson for me, so save yourself the same loss and take my word for it: Nobody out there is trying to selflessly help you. Anyone who says they are has an angle, and is just trying to get a cut of the money you’ve worked hard for and sacrificed to save up. Do not believe them. Trust your instincts.
July 31st, 2009 at 5:58 am
I wished I had saved more and did more traveling.
July 31st, 2009 at 6:08 am
I wish I would have gotten a credit card when I turned 18. I am 22, have no debt, have a great job, and only 8 months of credit history. My credit score is stuck around 680 due to such a short history and will make a mortgage or car loan much more painful.
July 31st, 2009 at 6:08 am
I wish I knew just how much all the little stuff I got for birthdays, Christmas, and bought would add up into an overwhelming amount of stuff. When I go back to my parents house and visit my old bedroom I see all the beanie babies sitting there and know that money could’ve been spent better. I dread having to clean out that room someday.
July 31st, 2009 at 6:10 am
Great Post….
My mind went 9 years and that is the time when I got married. I had purchased an apartment 15 days prior to our marriage and had no money left (after paying the down payment). Renuka ( my wife) paid for our honeymoon….
Coming back to financial descipline - I tried investing in stocks directly without much success. Subsequently,I invested my money in mutual funds but then withdrew at the wrong time (when the market was deep down).
The lesson that I have leart is that I need to be more patient and really look at the longer tie horizon.
Best,
Milind
JD - I am from India. However, I read you blog everyday
July 31st, 2009 at 6:10 am
Good post, it reminded me to have another talk with my daughter! I wish I had known about the power of multiple revenue streams 30 years ago. That is a concept I didn’t even consider until Ramit exposed me to it this year. I still need to make improvements but that has really helped me out over the last 3 months.
July 31st, 2009 at 6:11 am
I’m 33 and I have some time before I retire, but I wish I would have started saving for retirement sooner. I wish I would have realized that even when I was a broke college student and working near-minimum-wage, I should have still freed up SOME money for a retirement plan. There always seemed to be other pressing issues at hand.
July 31st, 2009 at 6:17 am
I wish there was a vaccine for “It won’t happen to me” syndrome that would make young people be more cautious and plan for more of the contingencies of life, including the simple desire to change your mind and do something different despite how confident they might currently be of their future plans. I know a lot of women who never thought they’d want to be a stay at home mom and now that they’ve changed their minds they can’t do it because they are trapped by their previous financial decisions.
I think all young couple’s should attempt to live on one income, even if the primary goal is to save up for a house or retirement or toys. It would give them a lot of flexibility through their entire lives, including the ability for one parent to leave the workforce if they so desire. This seems very hard for people to do, especially in couples where the woman is the higher earner and the parent that would want to leave the workforce.
- amber, a 31 year old mother of two who earns 2x as much money as her husband and wishes she were at home with her kids right now
July 31st, 2009 at 6:19 am
I wish I had started my own savings plan during the 20 years I was married. Even if I’d walked with only half of it, that would have helped a lot.
July 31st, 2009 at 6:20 am
I wish I’d really understood in my twenties how good it is to have an emergency fund and to understand what constitutes a real emergency. For years I dealt with a lot of stress because I had nothing in reserve. Everything that came up (an expensive car repair, the need to purchase a car, a home repair, etc.) caused me to have to borrow from family (which I hated) or really scrounge around to find the money.
It’s funny how once I established a decent emergency fund, there seemed to be fewer emergencies. The piece of mind has been enlightening and wonderful.
July 31st, 2009 at 6:37 am
Well, I’m only 24, but what I really wish I had known much earlier is the concept that “the perfect is the enemy of the good.” I’ve always been successful at the projects I’ve taken on because I would avoid them unless I knew I could complete them flawlessly.
As a result, I had tons of perfect projects to my name and none of them were very fulfilling or ambitious. I still struggle with this from time to time, but I now realize how important it is to take risks, fail forward, and accomplish a whole lot more than if I just play it safe all the time.
July 31st, 2009 at 6:42 am
I wish I had set up a budget when I was younger. I was relieved to have finally paid for my car, because lifestyle inflation meant I was struggling for money (no debt, but every month was getting closer to not being able to pay the credit card in full). If I had been on a budget then, I would’ve kept saving my car payments, and today I could be buying a nicer, more fuel-efficient car with cash (used, of course). Instead, I save only a fraction of a car payment every month and keep driving my paid-for car. (I’m slowly paying myself first, but right now I’m only up to 1/3 a car payment per month).
July 31st, 2009 at 6:45 am
Not much, honestly.
I’m only 21, so I feel pretty good about what I’ve managed so far. Just wish I wasn’t so into spending, so that maybe I wouldn’t have had so many student loans already… Scholarships would have helped, had I taken the time to look into it all.
I agree with Gen Y investor - Knowing what I should do doesn’t always mean I do that. Then again, I’m looking at possibly not making my goal of $1,000 in Roth IRA contributions this year… Which I have to be okay with, too. Retirement’s far away, and I won’t regret what I’ve saved so far, but I have to live in the present, too. (So I think a lot of us wisened youth are rather burdened by the knowledge sometimes. Guilt is 100x worse when you realize it in the moment rather than just afterwards.)
There’s a devil’s advocate post for ya, JD, mostly psychological too.
Even those of us who have youth and know what to do don’t always have the funds to do so! (Where saving & enjoying life in the moment come at the price of each other rather often. When people say they regret not saving and travelling more often, which is regretted more? Few can afford to do both.)
July 31st, 2009 at 6:57 am
I’m pretty young, too, so I can’t answer this question yet. There are some things I hope to someday understand better, though. Multiple revenue streams, for example–I have tons of free time and usually don’t do very much with it, which perhaps I will regret more than I do now. Also, I wish I had a better intuitive acceptance of the value of work. Holding a steady job is usually a drag for me, and I’m hoping I’ll grow out of that! (without growing bitter)
For the other young readers out there like me, you might check out today’s Zen Habits post (http://zenhabits.net/2009/07/two-questions-to-help-you-gain-perspective/#more-3501). It’s about 2 short questions to help you be honest with yourself about how you’re living your life and where you’re going to end up if you keep making the same choices you make everyday. It’s very positive and enlightening!
July 31st, 2009 at 6:59 am
Thanks J.D.
As a 20 something I’m very grateful for the info you are providing. I believe that the principles above are something that can never be stressed enough.
You mentioned compound savings, these early financial principals will lead to a better life compounding (made sense in my head at least, ha).
July 31st, 2009 at 7:03 am
I wish I had known that a bachelors degree is not worth the time or the debt and that I should have just learned a trade skill right out of high school
July 31st, 2009 at 7:06 am
I wish that I had seen the real estate crash coming, or at least not assumed that real estate values would continually rise or (at worst) flatten out. In the first half of the 2000s I didn’t “feel” overleveraged, but it’s depressing to think what my net worth could be if I never bought any property and just rented an apartment.
July 31st, 2009 at 7:10 am
Two things:
1.) I wish I had known how little of personal finance is mastery of the technical (401(k) match, interest rates, Quicken…) and how much is mental (knowing what enough is, realizing how little long-term satisfaction keeping up with the joneses provides, understanding how much money can be saved just by being patient and waiting).
2.) I wish there was some way to experience the comfort and satisfaction of having my finances in order, including having a good e-fund, reasonable retirement savings, not to mention the pleasure saving and paying outright for a large purchases instead of buying impulsively then dragging out payments (and interest). If I knew what it was like, it would have been great motivation to do it much, much earlier.
July 31st, 2009 at 7:18 am
I’m still young (26) and wish I knew how to deal with the setbacks. I’m glad I had the emergency fund but now that it’s wiped out, due to emergency, it’s hard to start saving all over again.
July 31st, 2009 at 7:19 am
I admit, I cannot think of anything… except maybe for a better understanding of more risky investment options.
Since my early teens, I valued the security that additional funds and the independence they provided (I also did not want my parents to spend money on extravagances that I could afford if I’d save) - thus I worked after school and during holidays. I was also blessed with a family that was generous with money gifts on special occasions - all of it went into my savings. At the same time, I was never big on spending, though I never felt like I was missing out. My priorities were just different.
This allowed me to fulfill traveling dreams early on… it helped that I didn’t mind backpacking, realizing that airfares were often the most expensive costs. It allowed me to volunteer abroad for a few years, pay for regular cross-Atlantic airfares to see my now-husband, and pay for the majority of our wedding.
We were lucky and worked hard to receive scholarships for our education, are debt free, have secure jobs, and keep on adding to our savings. So while I am not looking back, I look forward and hope that we will be able to install a similar approach to life and finances in the minds of our future kids.
I would tell them:
(1)that stuff is not as important as experiences and relationships are
(2)to start saving early and to try earn some additional money early one
(3) invest in education (by both working hard and saving)
(4) traveling is not expensive if your priority is to see and learn about a different country/culture and not to do it in the most comfortable way
And I am sure by the time we have kids, this list will be longer
July 31st, 2009 at 7:19 am
I wish that I had known that not every small business opportunity or flavor of the year MLM opportunity should be invested in - we’ve goofed up that way 4 times now and that is the main reason for the pile of debt we’re digging out of, but I think we’ve finally learned our lesson.
July 31st, 2009 at 7:20 am
“If I knew then, what I know now” is the SPIRIT of my entire blog. The solutions for day to day life are so simple, b/c we are constantly surrounded by people who have been there before. All we have to do is ASK!
There’s only one life to live, and I don’t want to mess it up anymore. I especially don’t want people in their teens and 20’s to do the wrong things I went through. I’m not writing for money, i’m just writing to keep myself honest, and hopefully help someone else along the way who may likely experience what I did.
My father taught me everything about finance, frugality, investing, saving etc and I still ended up losing 30% of my net wealth last year. It was disconcerting, but an experience I soon will never forget.
Best,
RB
Rich By 30 Retire By 40
July 31st, 2009 at 7:25 am
I’m only 24, FWIW.
1) you are not responsible for paying for your parents’ bills when they are buying crap left and right.
2) same goes for your sisters. Quit buying them stuff.
3) for the love of fuzzy mittens, FILL OUT YOUR FAFSA ON TIME. Yes, the paperwork is annoying. It would have saved you thousands….
July 31st, 2009 at 7:27 am
2 things
1) as Dave Ramsey says, give every dollar a job - it makes me sick when I look back at how I just frittered money away instead of saving or investing it in something worthwhile
2) when you get a raise or some other financial windfall, do something constructive with it. When I was 29 I moved back home from Nashville to help take care of my sick mother. I went from having a house payment and utility bills to having a surplus of money. When I finally moved back out on my own when my mother was in remission, I realized I hadn’t saved any of that money.
July 31st, 2009 at 7:48 am
1. Don’t assume mom and dad are always right about money. One day you’ll be advising dad on how his risk tolerence is WAY too high for his age–and his “advisor/broker” has only his own interests in mind.
2. Get the crazy family gift giving frenzy at Christmas to slow down several years earlier.
3. Figure out what investment tool was around when you started working at 16 (Roth wasn’t around yet) and invest!!
4. Don’t buy a house because others think it’s time–be sure you’ll be there several years or you’re better off renting.
5. Don’t try to sell a house empty (keep the furniture in it till it sells).
6. Don’t let the bank tell you how much you should spend on a house–keep it under 25% of your income even if they approve you for 50%.
July 31st, 2009 at 7:54 am
That is so funny! I live in Aloha (a town right next to Beaverton). Maybe we will be sometime!
July 31st, 2009 at 8:08 am
I think sometimes this blog does young people a disservice. My advice:
1) Don’t take financial advice from old fogies that is based on their regrets. The money they spent in their youth was “wasted” because they don’t have it to waste on equally frivolous things they want now. Look for advice from people who talk about their successes.
2) Its not whether you borrow but what you buy that determines whether you will regret it.
Few successful business people regret having borrowed money to start their own business. A lot of unsuccessful business people do regret it.
3) Make sure that when you borrow that what you are buying will be useful to you longer than it will take you to pay off the debt.
That is why borrowing to buy a car or house makes sense. But there are also intangible things, like memories, that it may be worth borrowing to have. And investments in yourself that give you skills and interests you will have the rest of your life are almost always worth the borrowing.
3) Commit to paying off the new purchases/ finance charges on your credit cards every month in addition to the minimum payment.
Remember that commitment when you go to buy something with the card. If you won’t be able to pay it off at the end of the month, see number two.
4) Don’t take on more debt than you can afford.
Create a budget for your monthly expenses other than debt (including all those credit card purchases you have committed to pay off at the end of the month) so you know how much debt you can afford.
Most people who get in trouble on credit cards debt do it with small “nickel and dime” purchases. But plenty of other people take on too much debt buying a fancier car or home with higher payments than they can afford.
If they knew how much it was costing them to live each month, they would know that mortgage broker’s/ care dealer’s estimate of how much they can afford to spend is inflated.
5) Don’t live your life planning for middle-age and retirement. There is a reason most people remember their youth as the “best time of their lives.” Its because there are lots of things they could do in their youth that they can’t do now.
The reality for most of us is that we will make more money as life goes along. Borrowing money in your youth for important purchases that will stay with you for a lifetime is not a waste of money.
July 31st, 2009 at 8:13 am
part of this is simply that in your teens into your early 20s, you haven’t finished developing some parts of your brain yet, and you’re also less experienced with handling outcomes of decisions you make. this makes it harder to get it right when you’re young. but it’s easier to screw it up when you’re young and spend some extra time recovering from it, than to continue those habits for a lifetime.
absolutely don’t take the parental advice at face value. consider their real financial position before you follow their advice. (they usually won’t give you the full story on this, either.) for instance, my dad is pretty decent at money- he has paid off his car and his house and probably has 5 more years of work to do- only because his retirement accounts are down. his advice has always been to look not once but several times before you leap, and have a substantial down payment for anything you buy on credit (mortgage, car, etc).
on the other hand, i found myself lecturing my own mother last week on her financial habits, because she’s approaching up-creek-no-paddle status here. by the end of the year she will have drained her retirement savings to pay off her credit cards, despite my insistence that she suck it up, make some lifestyle changes, and use her actual income to pay them off. she never offered advice, and i never followed in her footsteps.
July 31st, 2009 at 8:16 am
I’m 30 and in pretty good financial shape, but I know there are things out there that I should really know that I don’t. So feel free to write more posts like this.
One thing that I did several years ago that I thought was valuable, was to actually add up what I spent my money on. I counted all my monthly bills (rent, phone, energy, etc.) and figured out what my baseline expenditures were. Then I looked at how much I spent on food, soda and booze (a surprising amount), and then looked at what was left for savings. I realized that I spent a fortune on eating out, when my job allowed me to go home for lunch. Changing that freed up a lot of cash.
The one other thing that I did several years ago was realize that saving pre-tax was a good idea. I never saw the money, so that was good, and I didn’t have to pay taxes on it, which was even better. Also, since my employer matched 3%, I got that added bonus. I remember seeing the first statements and thinking it wasn’t adding up to much. I ignored them for a while, and after a year I looked at them and realized there was some real money in there. That was nice. Seven years later, it’s even nicer.
The last thing. The more stuff you buy, the more stuff you have to worry about. For me, seeing a bank statement with a solid amount of money is an opportunity. I can think about what I want to do with that one day. When I look at the stuff that I have, I think about what else it could have been, or how much it would suck if I lost it or if it broke. Now that stuff is a “sunk cost” to me, or worse, an ongoing expenditure. For me, the potential to have something is often better than having it.
July 31st, 2009 at 8:17 am
I wish I knew that the Bible says so much about money mgmt.
Ecclesiastes 11 teaches diversification of funds, just in case, oh I don’t know, a Bernie Madoff or Enron type situation occurs.
Romans 8 commands against debt.
Nehemiah 5 no reverse mortgages.
Proverbs 13 confirms the philosphy of GRS!
Luke 14 talks about house building/purchases.
Proverbs is rife with teachings.
Chapter 6 instructs on savings.
Ch 27 tells us to keep an eye on our money; don’t trust your broker alone.
Ch 13 you should have something left over to give your kids.
Ch 14 no impulse spending.
Ch 17 no co-signing.
July 31st, 2009 at 8:17 am
I wish that I’d had access to 10% of what I now know about how to get *out* of debt when I first started getting *into* it.
July 31st, 2009 at 8:18 am
You know, this is a great book idea. “Things I Wish I Knew About Money When I Was Younger” sounds like it would do very well.
July 31st, 2009 at 8:19 am
I’m still in my 20’s and have always innately been a saver. I wish in my teenage years I had known that I could save for retirement…it would have been great if I would have started a Roth IRA. My second job offered no retirement options, so even then this would have been handy to know. I missed out on a year and a half of retirement savings.
July 31st, 2009 at 8:20 am
No Ross not regrets of middle age folks but truth learned hard way.
July 31st, 2009 at 8:20 am
I wish I knew that everyone else isn’t as smart as they look. It is better to be a thinker than a follower.
July 31st, 2009 at 8:22 am
My parents taught me how to save money. What they didn’t know how to teach me was how to *spend* money.
I had the discipline not to blow my money right away when I earned it. But I was clueless on what I should do with that money. I eventually adopted a habit of saving a sizable amount, then spending it on some kind of expensive “toy”. So, I was still blowing the money, but on bigger things than most kids.
I basically lived like that ’til I was in my 30s. On the positive side, I was carrying low debt. On the negative side, I had a bunch of toys but very little wealth, no long-term savings, and had never leveraged compounding interest. It wasn’t ’til my wife and I started working with a financial adviser that I started to learn that. I could probably have retired by now if I had learned that at an early age.
July 31st, 2009 at 8:23 am
What I wish someone had told me is that compounding interest doesn’t always pile up as magically as they taught me in grade school.
Each month my savings account has a higher principal balance and yet each month I earn the same or *less* interest than I did the previous month because of falling interest rates.
July 31st, 2009 at 8:23 am
I wish I would have had the intelligence to tell my parents to put a few thousand bucks in the stock market for me just after I was born.
Interestingly, I really wish I would have waited a year or two to learn about investing. I’m young now, which makes it okay, but I moved my money from essentially “under my mattress” to the stock market at what was probably the second worst time to do it in the history of the US economy…lol.
July 31st, 2009 at 8:23 am
I wish I had known not to be so impressed by those described as “experts.”
I’ve learned a lot from experts. But I’ve learned more since I became aware of how flawed they often are. They’re humans like all the rest of us.
Rob
July 31st, 2009 at 8:24 am
Alot has already been said, but here are a few I wanted to add (re-state)
1) Don’t assume your parents lifestyle is what’s best for you
2) Debt is bad, no matter how you look at it or try to spin it.
3) If you want something big, wait a month, do the research, find out the value of it, then buy it.
4) Whatever you buy, will almost certianly not be as flashy in your hands as it was in your eyes.
5) Plan, for gods sake, plan for down the road. Before you know it, then will be now and now till be then.
6) You don’t “deserve” something, you are just buying it. It’s still your money going towards this thing you believe you deserve…
7) You have as much a shot at getting Rich quick as you do playing Pro Ball. Take your energy and learn to Get Rich Slowly
July 31st, 2009 at 8:30 am
I wish I’d understood the difference between cheap and frugal. When I was younger I would only buy things on sale, and often things that weren’t well made, or weren’t exactly what I wanted. I still have to fight the feeling that I shouldn’t pay full price for something good when something OK is on sale, but overall I’ve learned to save and buy what I really want, and make sure it is high quality, rather than throw a less money away on the shoddy and the OK. Keats is right, “A thing of beauty is a joy forever.” A lot of the other stuff is just stuff, and ends up getting discarded or worn out in no time.
July 31st, 2009 at 8:37 am
I wish I’d known to stay away from the credit cards. If I had, my hubby and I would be starting a family by now instead of barely surviving the minimum payments…
July 31st, 2009 at 8:42 am
I kinda wish I’d started my Roth IRA ten years ago instead of last month.
July 31st, 2009 at 8:46 am
Don’t waste any money trying to impress others. NO ONE IS WATCHING!
July 31st, 2009 at 9:01 am
I wish I had learned the value of looking for the less expensive way early in life. My parents were that way, but to an almost disturbing degree, so I think I rebelled against it as soon as I had a steady paycheck.
One thing I have learned is not to force feed my kids the gospel of frugality so much that they’re repulsed by it. This isn’t to blame my parents for my attitude toward money, but rather to say that a good thing can be taken too far, and repel rather than attract. There’s a balance that’s worth pursuing.
July 31st, 2009 at 9:01 am
#5, Andy, said, “I wish I would have gotten a credit card when I turned 18.”
Which made me laugh, because I was going to write: “I wish someone would have told me that having a credit card doesn’t make you grown-up”. My mother always had 5-10 credit cards in her wallet, and I thought that was part of being an adult.
I _did_ get a credit card when I was 18, and more or less carried a balance from then until I was 24. I wasted so much money on stupid interest payments… I would be a lot further along in paying off my remaining debt (down to one student loan now!) if I hadn’t had that card.
My husband has never had a credit card and never regretted it.
FWIW, I’m still only 26. Thanks to this site and its readers, I started a Roth IRA in January and started contributing to my employer’s matching retirement fund this year, too. The company finance planner guy almost cried when I told him my age, and said, “I wish I had done this in my twenties, instead of starting in my 40s…”
So thanks, JD! You’re doing us young’uns a service.
July 31st, 2009 at 9:02 am
Well, I’m only 27…so I still have alot to learn
But a few years back, I squandered alot of money trying to play the stock market, getting caught up with Jim Cramer’s “Mad Money” ideas. I didn’t know there was a difference between TRADING and INVESTING.
I’m only an investor now. Fixed amounts directly withdrawn from my checking going straight to my IRA every month. Tax Sheltering. Dollar Cost Averaging. Low Expense Ratios. Index Funds. Balanced Asset Allocation. It’s boring, but investing is supposed to be boring. It also gives me peace of mind and a sound night’s sleep, even in the midst of a recession.
July 31st, 2009 at 9:02 am
I wish that someone had given me the OK to save as much for returement as my husband did. I was the stay at home mom and never felt that I should be able to save for returement. We would be better off if I had.
July 31st, 2009 at 9:12 am
I wish someone had shown me charts about compound interest when I was still in high school/early college. It’s one thing to hear about it as an abstract concept, it’s another to see the numbers go through the roof with even small contributions at age 18.
I wish I had been reminded when I got my first “real” job that lifestyle inflation was an issue, and that saving money was better in the long run. It would have helped against the feeling of “I’ve been a poor student for sooo many years now, I deserve a little treat now that I have a job”
July 31st, 2009 at 9:14 am
I’m only 25 but there are a few thigns I would have done over the past few years that i’ve finally learned from my mistakes:
1) Use your company 401k to your advantage. At least get the most matching percentage they will offer.
2) Learn to say no to family and friends when they ask for money. Not counting the interest I’d have over $10k more in my bank if I followed this rule!
and one thing my parents taught me from day one, and I still follow:
3) save as much as you can. When we were little we had to put at least 25% of any birthday money, or allowance or side job money into our savings account. This money came in mighty helpful when my scholarship money wasn’t enough to cover the expenses of books and other schools supplies. I’m one of the lucky ones that got out of school with no debt!
July 31st, 2009 at 9:20 am
I just want to add that I disagree with pretty much everything Ross Williams said.
It’s not that I don’t think people should travel and start a small business and invest in experiences and memories they’ll have for a lifetime - I simply disagree that it’s OK to *borrow* for those things. All borrowing does is make those things cost more. If you just save up the money instead and pay cash for them, you still get to do all those things, but they end up costing less (because you don’t pay any interest).
I believe aside from a mortgage and a student loan, young people should avoid debt at all costs. Get by with what you’ve got until you can save up the money to buy that car/vacation/XBox in cash. It might take a little longer, but in the long run, the money you’ll save adds up.
July 31st, 2009 at 9:21 am
THE SLOW BUT PAINFUL SUCK OF LIFESTYLE INFLATION - KEY TOPIC TO TALK ABOUT BEFORE MARRIAGE!
JD, Great post and thank you so much for highlighting the issue of lifestyle inflation. No matter how committed a person is to living within their means, once you get married there are two sets of expectations to take into consideration. I wish that society encouraged couples to talk more honestly and openly about what can happen when you stretch to buy “just a little more house or just a little more car…” Next thing you know you need “nicer furniture, better cloths, etc.” Lifestyle inflation is like the financial equivalent of termites eating away at your foundation!
July 31st, 2009 at 9:24 am
I’ve been really good with not spending more than I earn for as long as I’ve had a job (since I was 16). I’ve never had a problem living a frugal lifestyle. My grandparents and high school economics teacher taught me about compoud interest, so I was always very conscious of how I spent and avoided all but student loan debt.
But, one thing I wish I had known when I was younger was how to increase my income. I worked a lot of crap jobs, and now that I have more experience, I realize that I could have made a whole lot more money at jobs that I thought were out of my reach, but really weren’t.
I also wish I had known that a college degree is not all it’s cracked up to be, and my time (and money) would have been better spent learning a marketable skill in college.
July 31st, 2009 at 9:30 am
I find it kind of funny how many people wished they’d learned about compound interest in high school. In the province where I used to teach, some personal finance (like how much student loans will cost, etc) is covered in a mandatory course.
Sadly, my experience teaching this course is that many students don’t really care. They think loans and credit are something to be dealt with once they get a “real job”. In the meantime, it’s okay to use student loan money to maintain the lifestyle they’ve got living at home — complete with nice clothes, gadgets and vacations. After all, it can all be paid back later, right?
On the opposite end of the spectrum are students who are so worried about money that they work longer hours than they should and either their schoolwork or their social lives suffer. (I was one of those students).
I’m not sure what the happy medium is — if there is one.
July 31st, 2009 at 9:37 am
I wish I would have invested more in education and training. One of the most important things when you are young is building your skill set.
July 31st, 2009 at 9:47 am
I wish I’d know that student loan debt needs to be considered just as carefully as other debt. And that grad school isn’t going to fix your life magically.
I think student loans are helpful (and I would have been in a world of hurt without them), but I think you need to be very conservative taking them out. In my case I left college with only $10K of student loans, but then my expensive grad school habit totally ballooned them to an astounding level.
July 31st, 2009 at 10:03 am
I wish I would have known that to be more conservative investor might work out best in the long term. We have been great savers - both for retirement and for college for our 2 girls but it is really painful to see those accounts built up over years with less now than the principal invested in them.
We are trying to be patient and hope we have time for a correction but it is hard not to have regrets.
July 31st, 2009 at 10:10 am
I wish I had known how to be patient when I was younger. Of course, that may be something that a young person just isn’t capable of. But, it seems that the vast majority of debt is a result of impatience. Wanting to have now what we have not earned.
July 31st, 2009 at 10:20 am
I wish I had known that graduating from college doesn’t equal an instant and huge income. Somehow, I thought it would all be better because I’d be making “real” money… so we racked up the credit cards in college. Bleh.
July 31st, 2009 at 10:24 am
I wish I would have known I can live happily on $40k when I was making $50k, and I wish I had the discipline to live on $30k while making $40k.
I’m working on it…
July 31st, 2009 at 10:27 am
I wish I had known how to negotiate a car (and loan) before I was taken advantage of on my first one. The same for a home loan, but at least I was able to do a lot of research beforehand and got a decent deal, although knowing what I know now I could have done better.
July 31st, 2009 at 10:28 am
I wish I knew how to actually use credit cards and not get stuck with the debt. Also, I wish I would have listened to the people who told me that a college education would pay more in the long run than just a high school diploma. I think sometimes there’s too much emphasis put on the goals of 5 years instead of 10 to 20 years. Too much, “what do you want to be?” and not enough “what do you want to do?”, questions for young people.
July 31st, 2009 at 10:46 am
I think there is no point in wishing you knew something when you were younger. I mean, the experiences we have had and the decisions we have made has made us who we are. So, if you knew something when you were younger then you would be a different person.
Rather than wishing that I think of how can my kids learn from me so that they do not make the mistakes I made.
July 31st, 2009 at 11:14 am
So far I think I’ve done ok (22 and only worked for 1 year), but I wish there was more information for me as someone going into professional school and taking out a lot of debt (around 200K by the end of my four years).
People say start saving early, contribute to your Roth IRA. But doesn’t it make more sense to use my savings so I take out fewer loans? And it seems most Roth IRAs require that I keep contributing, but I won’t be making money again for four more years, so should I save for retirement now?
Whenever I try to ask people about these things, they just tell me to worry about it when I’m an Intern/Resident. Or they tell me that I have nothing to worry about since I’m going to be a doctor. But I feel like 200K in loans (first batch interest rates fixed at 5%, 8.5% and 6.8%, in order of smallest to biggest loans) is not something to take lightly.
July 31st, 2009 at 11:18 am
Kaila said:
“I also wish I had known that a college degree is not all it’s cracked up to be, and my time (and money) would have been better spent learning a marketable skill in college.”
This may have been the biggest mistake my parents generation (baby boomers) pushed onto my generation. When they were growing up, in the 1960s, a college degree must have implied a good job at a stable company. So, they all (even the ones without degrees) told their children, “you need to get a degree, a degree gets you in the door, a degree at least makes you employable”.
And they created an entire generation of children who spent tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars on degrees, many in unmarketable fields. Now my generation of people in their twenties and early thirties find themselves in debt, and realizing that employers want to hire people who can be productive over people with certificates. People will pay you to build things, or to do accounting, or to prepare food, etc. They are increasingly unwilling to hire you just because you’ve got a certificate.
I also tend to agree with Ramit on the point you mention — saving tiny amounts doesn’t make much of a difference, and the more money you earn, the less difference they make. Just as an example — if you pay at starbucks with a starbucks card,they give you a 10% discount. If you spend $4/day at starbucks, five days a week you save about $100/year. Buy an iPhone on impulse and you’ve offset all the effort you took to save 10% on 260 different purchases two-fold already. A single moderate mistake negates a year’s worth of careful work on the small things. It’s not worth the effort, especially if it’s 260 purchases from different merchants who don’t all give you an automatic 10% discount for using a specific gift card.
July 31st, 2009 at 11:29 am
Oh, and another thing… I should have taken even BIGGER risks when I was younger i.e. investing more in a particular stock (a 3k investment rose to 125K in 6 months during the dot com days, but i could have easily invested 15K for example), or taking that entreprenurship job overseas etc.
When we’re young, we have nothing to lose. After years of work and life, we just becoming more risk adverse.
I say we need to remind ourselves to always GO FOR IT!
Rgds,
RB
Rich By 30 Retire By 40
July 31st, 2009 at 11:44 am
Have a written budget for every stage of life. Writing it down IN ADVANCE, NOT AFTER-THE-FACT,is the single most powerful tool I have.
When I write out a budget, I’m much more focused on how the money is spent. When I’m just whipping out the debit or credit card, it’s much more thoughtless.
July 31st, 2009 at 12:02 pm
I think a Omar’s #1 bullet is a great point for this article. “Don’t always assume what your parents do is right for you.” Of course, growing up you learn everything from your parents / guardian, so it would only be natural for you to lean towards a lifestyle just like your parents. But, when it comes to schooling, you need to go for something that you enjoy doing not your parents. This will lead to a smoother transition from school to the working world, which will lead to less debt.
July 31st, 2009 at 12:03 pm
I just turned 27. I got married 4 months ago, and I am 3.5 months pregnant with first child (surprise!).
I wish:
1. I didn’t buy a house at age 22 (2005). I am SO underwater it makes me sick.
2. I got all the birthday and Christmas present giving under control in high school—too many ppl and too much maintenance! Now, we don’t give b-day gifts, and we draw a single name at Christmas or play “Indian Bingo”.
3. I worked for the Gov’t. I work for a small co with crappy health insurance (no family coverage), no 401k, and no maternity leave. Been here more than 5 years.
4. I had finished even a two year degree (just a piece of paper, I realize) to privide me with more job options in the future. Chose work and home ownership instead.
July 31st, 2009 at 12:15 pm
I wish I could tell myself as a kid not to waste my allowance on stupid crap. I spent it on stuff that I’ve grown out of, like kid’s fiction. Thinking of the total over the years makes me wince.
July 31st, 2009 at 12:21 pm
Since everybody is posting their “I wish” stories…
When I was in my early 20’s and not being aggressive with college, I wish I would have been more aggressive about changing jobs. I was in a comfortable but dead-ended job making about $11/hour (in the mid 1990’s). I would casually pursue other jobs, but never hit the pavement hard. I lost at least 5 years of career development by being complacent. Instead, I didn’t get my first real “career path” type of job until I was 31. I’m hoping to finally get my BS degree by age 39.
(Of course - I REALLY wish I would have been a better college student straight out of college.)
July 31st, 2009 at 12:24 pm
im actually still young so i have lots to learn
July 31st, 2009 at 12:26 pm
Yeah - my advice to Andy would be to not worry about credit scores. I want to get to the point where I have no debt. Instead of spending $500+ per month on debt service (credit cards, student loans, car), I would much rather be putting $500 in the bank and paying cash for everything. I don’t know if it’s true or not, but Dave Ramsey used to claim that if you were a cash-only type and need to get a home loan that you should be able to go to a small bank that looks at your specific financial situation instead of your credit score, that you should be able to get a good rate on a mortgage.
Having a credit card is nice for emergencies when you don’t have much of a savings. I’ve been a horrible credit card user for 18 years now, and want to get them out of my life.
July 31st, 2009 at 12:39 pm
I wouldn’t go back and tell myself anything. As Beth pointed out, the information is THERE. I wouldn’t be surprised if some of you were sitting next to me in economics class and while I was drawing marginal cost charts you were trying to get your pencil to stick in the ceiling tiles, and now you’re saying no one told you.
I have learned something from every money mistake I have made. I still apply money philosophies because they make sense or because I learn from OTHER people’s mistakes, but everyone will have to learn some things for themselves. And those lessons become more and more expensive as you get older. I learned about wasting money on junk when I spent $5 on a toy that broke (because it was cheap or I didn’t take care of it) and my parents wouldn’t replace it. Now I don’t have to learn that with a $300 iPod, $5k sofa or a $20k car. I watched that happen with my uncle as my grandparents bailed him out of bigger and bigger schemes. According to my mom that started in high school. How much cheaper would it have been for everyone if they had let him sink in the first place?
Whenever I get held up at a doctor’s office or something I tell myself that had I left earlier I would have had a different reality. I would be less annoyed but I might have gotten hit by a bus. Just because it sounds like a better situation on the surface doesn’t mean it would be.
When we look back it is easy to see the rosy things that didn’t happen (it’s always greener grass on the other side). You look at your decisions through the prism of the present and it’s distorted. There are things that young people should know and I get your point in wishing you had UNDERSTOOD then, but telling your young self wouldn’t have cut it.
July 31st, 2009 at 12:41 pm
Floss. Moisturize. Invest.
Repeat Daily.
July 31st, 2009 at 12:57 pm
1) Don’t go off to a university full-time as soon as you graduate from high school. Instead, get a job, start taking classes in the evening, and pay for your education as you go along. When you’re done, you will have a degree, it will be in something you actually want to do for a living, you’ll be debt-free, and you’ll have work experience.
2) Quit worrying about accumulating vast sums of wealth so that you can quit working when you turn 60 and then never have to work again. You can’t, and you won’t want to anyway. Live debt-free, including being mortgage-free, and then it won’t matter so much what your job pays. That way you can do what you enjoy and won’t mind doing it past the age of 60.
July 31st, 2009 at 1:25 pm
I wish I would have known that there are other paths to follow instead of the go to college, get a job, get married, buy a house path.
July 31st, 2009 at 1:40 pm
I absolutely agree with Kevin! (See comment #3)
NEVER EVER TRUST STRANGERS WHEN IT COMES TO MANAGING YOUR MONEY!
Last year, in Singapore, a lot of people have lost their entire life savings because they invested in a structured product called Lehman Minibonds that’s linked to the now bankrupt Lehman Brothers Bank.
See the newspaper articles here:
http://mark-foo.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/lehman-minibonds-article-1.jpg
http://mark-foo.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/lehman-minibonds-article-2.jpg
The lesson is to never rely solely on the advice of your relationship manager, broker or financial adviser. They are simply salespeople, not investors. And don’t forget, they need to eat and enjoy life too, just like you and me. Nobody will care about your money as much as you do, so it’s best if you take care of your own investments.
And if you were to learn how to invest on your own, never learn from these salespeople. Just like if you’re going to learn how to play golf, you learn from a golf coach, not the person selling you golf equipments.
Also, always take full responsibility for your own investment decisions (or any decisions). If anything goes wrong, don’t blame it on other people for giving you the wrong or misleading info or for whatever reasons. You’re the only one responsible for your own success.
Cheers~
Mark
July 31st, 2009 at 1:49 pm
I’m another one that knew not to spend more than I made, but that was all I knew. My parents had been perpetually in debt, and I didn’t want to be like that, so I spent less than I earned and had no clue what to do with the rest.
Luckily for me I met a guy who DID know what to do with the rest and married him. Since we got engaged right out of school, all my saved money went to the wedding and then when we were married he taught me more about it. Plus we discovered Dave Ramsey after a couple years of marraige, and even though we weren’t in debt it helped us to better understand how to manage our money.
July 31st, 2009 at 1:54 pm
I wish I had known that a certain amount of money DOES buy happiness, and, just because I grew up poor, I didn’t have to stay poor. I also wish I had known that a useful degree is a really great thing, instead of spending years on academic degrees that got me nothing but debt.
July 31st, 2009 at 1:57 pm
It is also true that there are some things you can only learn by experience. So even if you’re 20 and reading this, there will probably be SOMETHING. And if you’re 50 and full of shoulda’s, chances are even if you coulda you wouldn’t-a.
July 31st, 2009 at 2:01 pm
Pirate JO, I think I am going to learn this point NOW. I’m only 34 and this point really spoke to. Ultimatly I think this why everyone states what they would have told themselves, because one of US is reading it now. Thanks Pirate Jo
2) Quit worrying about accumulating vast sums of wealth so that you can quit working when you turn 60 and then never have to work again. You can’t, and you won’t want to anyway. Live debt-free, including being mortgage-free, and then it won’t matter so much what your job pays. That way you can do what you enjoy and won’t mind doing it past the age of 60.
July 31st, 2009 at 2:02 pm
I wish I would have known that if I started chewing my fingernails, I would never stop.
July 31st, 2009 at 3:09 pm
JD, You summarized loads of Financial Education in this single blog post. Great Post!
July 31st, 2009 at 3:21 pm
I wish I had learned earlier not to decide what I needed based on what my peers were buying or what someone on TV says. For example, just because people I know are buying houses in a certain neighborhood that cost a certain amount of money doesn’t mean that it might not be a good idea for me to buy in a less expensive neighborhood. Just because the folks on HGTV say that your house must be decorated in a certain way doesn’t mean that you have to go out and buy new furniture every three years. Just because most of my coworkers wear Ann Taylor doesn’t mean I can’t buy my clothes at Target and Goodwill. Each of us has to decide for ourselves what is worth spending our money on, and nothing is “mandatory,” even if societal expectations make it feel that way. Also, by resisting this urge to conform, I have been able to be much more financially secure, even though my co-workers may look like they have more money than me.
July 31st, 2009 at 3:28 pm
@ #5 Andy - I have a zero credit score and just bought my first house. I’m 44, had credit cards until 3 years ago, from the age of 18, and they did nothing for me except entice me with “easy” money that I pissed away for 26 years. Key to a house without worshiping your FICO score is to pay your rent, utilities and other normal expenses on-time, save 20% down, get a 15 year conventional mortgage (FHA/VA mortgage has too many fees) with payments <=25% of your take home income.
July 31st, 2009 at 3:51 pm
There is no better investment than in your own skills.
As a software guy, this is more painfully obvious… but for pretty much everybody in the world, the greatest income stream will be in you salary.
Therefore, saving $5k when you make $30k is great and all… because you could invest that and make 8% on a good stock/bond blend.
However… if you spent just a little of that $5k on extra education, books, certifications, etc., you’ll get a much bigger return on your investment. Spending $1k on the RIGHT KIND of education can give you 500% return on investment.
Then next year, you can sock away $10k
July 31st, 2009 at 6:28 pm
can you believe that i actually left my parent’s house knowing almost nothing about money? checking accounts, credit cards, savings, etc. what it cost “out there” - like rent and utilities. and how about buying a car? i paid..wait for it…wait for it… 29% interest on my first car loan. can you believe that?
oh my goodness gracious.
July 31st, 2009 at 7:55 pm
I wish someone would have told me how important it is to have an emergency fund. It would have helped a lot when my husband started his own business or when I was diagnosed with cancer. I’m just glad we learned the lessons now and are getting on a great financial track.
July 31st, 2009 at 8:39 pm
“No Ross not regrets of middle age folks but truth learned hard way.”
No, they aren’t “truths” any more than the “truths” you were convinced of at 20. Middle age angst is no more truthful than youthful exuberance, just a different phase in life. If you let it, it too shall pass.
If you are young, don’t spend your life trying to avoid “mistakes”. You will make mistakes and you will learn from them. Soon enough there will come a point in life where comfort and security become your most important goals. Don’t anticipate that point.
Invest in yourself not just based on the monetary return. Invest in the things that make you a happier, more fulfilled person. You will carry those things with you the rest of your life.
Its true that a degree in English will often make you a well-educated barista to start. But your knowledge of English literature will bring you pleasure the rest of your life and you will be sought after by all the book clubs in your retirement community. (I was not an english major and I regret it sometimes.)
I once heard that the most common regret among old people is that they didn’t take care of their teeth. So floss every day. It can’t hurt and maybe you will still be able to enjoy corn-on-the-cob at 80.
July 31st, 2009 at 9:23 pm
“If you just save up the money instead and pay cash for them, you still get to do all those things, but they end up costing less (because you don’t pay any interest).”
If you delay paying for something of lasting value, then you also give up some of the value you will get out of it. Since most people will make more money as they get older, it makes sense to borrow from the future to pay for things of lasting value today.
There are also a lot of opportunities in life that pass you by if you don’t take them when they are there. That European trip taken right after graduation is not the same as the trip taken in retirement. And you will have the experiences for your whole life.
July 31st, 2009 at 9:44 pm
Thank you Ross for your boost of English majors. I AM an English major and so is my husband (he’s actually got an MA in the stuff). I was also a barista (!) as well as a restaurant cook and a Trader Joe’s cashier/stock girl. All fun jobs, but not so great in the pay department.
We did pretty well, never carrying credit card debt and saving plenty when we were in our 20s and early 30s. Then we bought a house (yes, with 20% down, which kind of wiped out our savings), and I got pregnant. I stayed home with the little boy for four years while my husband took three pay cuts (the airline industry ain’t what it used to be). We went from covering our bills with a very small bit to spare (like in the tens of dollars per year, not the thousands or even hundreds) to having to use credit cards to pay for food.
Now I work as a proofreader (yay! I’m actually sort of using my degree) and I make a halfway decent salary which would cover our bills if only we didn’t have $40,000 in credit card debt. My husband now stays home with the child.
My point? I will never regret having gotten a degree in literature. Books were my first love, and I still get the greatest pleasure from reading, understanding, and sometimes analyzing them. Even though we’re struggling financially and may even die in debt, I enjoy my life and what I’ve learned in it. Yeah, you can get a “useful” degree, work your whole life, and save lots of money, but what if you get hit by a bus the day you retire? Wouldn’t it all have been a waste? Carpe diem, y’all.
August 1st, 2009 at 4:34 am
Manging money is an art and some people have the necessary savvy - and some do not care about it. The key however is to be happy- and one needs a certain amount to keep the body and soul together- after that it is all fluff. The key however is to learn the art of making money- that is more fun.
August 1st, 2009 at 7:38 am
There are a lot of things I wish I knew about money when I was younger. Here are the four biggest things I can think of right now.
1) I wish I knew about Dave Ramsey. Had I taken Financial Peace University at 21 instead of 33, I would have been so much smarter with my money.
2) I wish I had started a personal budget 15 years ago.
3) I wish I had taken my income from my second job and saved it instead of using it as my fun money.
4) I wish I hadn’t assumed that a big company would provide the security many people promise. Had I started with a small company right out of school, I would have more income than slowly working up the bureaucratic ladder.
August 1st, 2009 at 8:18 am
“There is no better investment than in your own skills.”
Yes!!!
Omer, if you’re still reading, this ties into what I said above, about not spending all your good years on a hamster wheel, trying desperately to save enough money that you can quit forever at the magical age of 60.
The last thing you want to do is retire at 60, spend fifteen years not working, and then at 75 have another market crash wipe out half of your remaining pool of money. It just happened last year, and it can happen again. You’re going to have to go back to work then, after 15 years out of the job market, and who is going to hire you for anything other than menial, low-paying jobs? If you had kept working, at least some of the time, during those years, you’d still be marketable.
Your continued ability to earn a living, doing something - anything - is going to go a lot further to take care of you than the money you dump into savings or investments.
August 1st, 2009 at 8:30 am
1) Sometimes parents are wrong.
2) You will make mistakes and should learn how to deal with them
To preface 3, I was always careful with money, but had problems buying big purchases (Classified as 200-300 dollars). One day at work I got a 3k raise. Before that raise I wanted to have a camera and i knew if i went home and did the research on the best in my price range i would decide that i don’t really need it. So I actively decided to make an impulse buy at best buy. Still have a cannon camera that I know i overpaid for, but i would have no camera now if i didn’t just buy it. That is what i have problem with. The more I make the more I save, yet i still have difficulty spending money on fun.
As a young adult i realize it to be a flaw….
Giskard
August 1st, 2009 at 8:45 am
I wish I had learned about compounding interest. I also wish I had had a mentor ~ someone who didn’t spend everything they earned and who could give me useful facts about money from real life example. I didn’t know anyone like that. Even my wealthier friends lived high on the hog by way of lifestyle inflation ~ living in big houses, driving jags and so forth. My own family lived hand to mouth with zero savings so that’s how I lived because it’s all I knew. Even when my income was high, I didn’t save a dime because I was just so ignorant regarding my personal finances.
The five things you mention in your article sum it up for me. I wish I had at least been informed about the basics but, unfortunately, never was. Now I have to play catch up in a recession.
August 1st, 2009 at 1:44 pm
back to basic: RESPONSIBILITY and simple MATH. It’s not one or two things that people should have known when they were young that could save their money problems. 2+2 will always equal 4. Simple math. I don’t feel sorry for the large majority who are in financial troubles. If you spend more than you take in, then you are bouund to be in trouble. So don’t blame other people or the government for what’s going on in your life. If you can do simple MATH, then you should not be in money trouble. There is no excuse.