This is a guest post from April Dykman, an avid GRS reader, and a writer and editor by trade. April is a potential Staff Writer for Get Rich Slowly. April is an active commenter at this site.
There was a time not so very long ago that I didn’t pay much attention to where my money went. I always paid more than the minimum on my credit card, but I still wasn’t making significant progress in debt reduction.
For many people, it simply isn’t enough to have a tactical plan to pay off debt. We know we should spend less than we earn, but as Drazen Prelec noted in the quote above, people have complex attitudes toward money. When emotion and logic are at odds, emotion usually wins.
In retrospect, there are five phases I went through to change my relationship with money. Note that my process wasn’t this linear. In fact it was quite messy, sometimes moving two steps forward and one step back.
Riding the roller coaster
Spending gave me a temporary high. New clothes made me feel new. I felt I deserved a pedicure and a massage. Picking up the tab for a friend made me feel great. I could justify almost any expenditure, any impulse buy, and all of it went on the credit card. It was like spending Monopoly money, until the end of the month when the credit card bill arrived. My stomach dropped as I looked at the balance, added the expenditures in my head, and realized that yes, it was correct. The bank didn’t make a mistake. I bought that Stuff.
I’d swear to myself to do better next month, and satisfied with that vague goal, put the whole thing out of my mind.
Repeat. Repeat. Repeat.
Recognizing and accepting myself
The thing of it was that I fully understood the implications of credit card debt. I saw how living paycheck-to-paycheck imprisoned me and limited my options. I was tired of feeling guilty after every purchase. I couldn’t stand that I was unable to save for travel because that money needed to go toward debt (so I wasn’t saving it all).
Logically, I got it. Emotionally, I felt a mess.
I started thinking about why I felt the urge to spend. Was I bored? Restless? Anxious?
When I was in college just a few years earlier, I was somewhat depressed. I’d been to too many funerals, I was in a bad relationship, and I’d gained weight. Shopping was a high. Shopping was a hobby and a way to reinvent myself (or so I felt).
But that was years ago. I was now in a wonderful relationship with my now-husband, and I had every reason in the world to be happy. If nothing else, I had the basics — food, shelter, and family. I started to focus on the positive things in my life, and I realized that I hadn’t been paying attention to them before. So why was I stuck in a bad pattern if life was good? What was I trying to prove, and to whom?
My self-perception was so off the mark that although I had lost the weight I’d gained and then some, I would regularly try on clothes that were two sizes too big, much to the bewilderment of the salesperson.
I wasn’t seeing myself as I was or as loved ones or even strangers saw me. I began to notice where I was being hard on myself, and I decided to try to be okay with where I was right now. Not a Calvin Klein dress from now, not five pounds from now, just now. Being a perfectionist was just too exhausting.
Finding flow
I was starting to see myself more clearly, but I wasn’t sure where to go from there. I knew I was sick of the roller coaster, of too much Stuff cluttering my life, of paying for the past (plus interest). But if I didn’t want what the marketers told me I should want, then what?
What made me happy? Seems like a simple question, but to find the real answer, you have to block out a barrage of ad campaigns, expectations from family members and peers, and the desire to keep up with the Joneses.
My list of things that make me happy looks like this:
- Cooking with my husband
- Time spent with family and friends (playing games, telling stories, etc.)
- Photography
- Time spent outdoors — backpacking, kayaking, swimming
- Yoga
- Travel and new experiences (learning)
When engaged in many of these activities, I find “flow,” a term coined by psychologist Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi in the 1970s. Flow occurs when you are so engrossed in an activity that you forget about your worries and lose track of time. For example, normally my mom can’t stay awake past 9 p.m., but when she is sewing, she can stay up until the wee hours of the morning.
I didn’t know about flow or Csikszentmihalyi at the time, but I think people are instinctively drawn to activities that get them in the zone. There are countless pastimes that could give someone flow — running, surfing, singing, playing piano, hiking, writing. According to Csikszentmihalyi, a life of many activities in flow is likely to be a life of great satisfaction.
My goal was (and still is) to spend as much time as possible in activities that give me flow, especially the ones that don’t require much money!
First steps
This introspection was all well and good and necessary, but the debt wasn’t going to just disappear because I was feeling like Buddha on the Mountaintop now. I still had to take tactical steps to kill the debt, but those steps aren’t anything you haven’t heard before. To begin, I stopped accumulating Stuff and started to track my spending.
I also purged relentlessly — but not all at once. Over the course of a year, I donated, consigned, or gave away Stuff about eight times, slowly weaning myself from things I never used, realizing it was okay to let go.
I put off purchases and considered the reasons I wanted whatever it was that I wanted.
- Was I trying to prove something?
- Was there a real need?
- How often would I use or wear it?
- Did I already own something similar?
Then I’d think about my goals. Did I want a new pair of shoes, or did I want that money to go toward a trip to Italy more? It’s helpful to use visual reminders of your goals.
Find images that represent your ambitions and keep them in your purse or wallet. A lifelong Italianophile, I kept a photo of Cinque Terre on my desktop.
The visual reminders are helpful because you are more likely to make a lasting change if you focus on the positive benefit to the new course of action (extra money in my travel fund), rather than focusing on what may seem to be a sacrifice (not buying the shoes I think I need this very moment or I’ll just die).
If you still can’t decide, write down the Very Important Thing, along with where you saw it and the price. Tell yourself you can always come back and purchase it later because you’ve written down all of the information. Give it a day (or three) and see how you feel.
Many times, the intense desire to buy the Very Important Thing will dissipate. If not, maybe it’s a worthwhile purchase. Only you can decide what is most meaningful to you.
Freedom
I still feel the urge to buy on impulse. Maybe it’s on sale, maybe I think there won’t be any later, or maybe I’ve just convinced myself that it’s a super smart purchase. Awful, isn’t it? After all of that work shouldn’t I be free from mindless spending? Had I not changed at all?
What changed was my self-awareness. Now I’m able to feel the craving, acknowledge that it’s there, and let mindfulness intervene before I act. Therein lies the freedom. I am no longer reacting on impulse; I am mindfully choosing my actions. I choose yes or no based on my goals. That freedom is a better high than anything I could have bought in a store.
What about you? If you struggle with mindless spending, do you know why? Have you overcome it (and if so, how)? Do you have activities that give you flow?
J.D.’s note: I personally found this piece very powerful. I could identify with a lot of April’s emotions and thought processes. “Being a perfectionist was just too exhausting,” she writes, and I think that I could have written that myself!
Monopoly money photo by Goat Girl Photos. Sticky Note photo courtesy of Lynn Brem from the excellent website, Take Back Your Brain.
This article is about Choices, Consumerism, Psychology, Shopping Wednesday, 5th August 2009 (by April Dykman)


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August 5th, 2009 at 5:22 am
If this is a typical example of April’s writing style, I think that it fits very well on your blog JD. I agree that it seems like something you could have written (in a good way).
Just my 2 cents. I enjoyed it very much. Now I have to go read about that Csik… Czik… Ch…. whatever the guy’s name is.
August 5th, 2009 at 5:48 am
I’m not anti credit card like some folks (alhtough we don’t use ours except for business expenses and travel) but I too found my credit card spending mindless. Even though I paid off my credit card in full each month I spent double, and some times more than double, what I spend now on day to day spending (entertainement, eating out, clothes, personal expenses, etc.). I just didn’t pay any real attention to my spending, although I promised myself I would keep it under a certain level.
Now we use our debit cards and we have a limited amount funds available to spend via debit and when it is gone we stop spending until the next pay period. As a result I pay way more attention, I check my checking accounts at least once a day, to my spending now and I spend a lot less. If I want to spend on clothes or shoes, I still can but I’ve got to work my allowance so I have enough money to last the two weeks or need to save from my allowance for a couple of weeks.
August 5th, 2009 at 5:51 am
And I love Fight Club for its impactful message that we can be a slave to our possessions and therefore a slave to our job and the expectations of others.
When I was driving my 1999 paid for car (now I drive a 2006 paid for car) and people gave me a hard time about it I kept telling myself that I didn’t need to impress these people with my car and if they were going to judge me by the kind of car I drove than there opinions were worth bunk.
August 5th, 2009 at 5:52 am
This is a great article! I love frank articles on the emotional side of dealing with money that GRS posts. Thanks April for the candid insights.
August 5th, 2009 at 5:57 am
Great article, April!
August 5th, 2009 at 6:01 am
Hehe. I love the Fight Club reference.
As much as some people don’t approve of the movie, I think it’s the most delightfully entertaining anti consumerism statement I’ve ever encountered.
August 5th, 2009 at 6:09 am
Great post. As Martin mentioned, if this is her writing style, it would def fit well with GRS. I could totally relate to this, and I’ve done most of these steps to stray away from mindless spending and it has worked wonders for my debt reduction and savings accumulation.
August 5th, 2009 at 6:17 am
This really is a great piece - I was struck by the acceptance of personal responsibility and the growing self-awareness that marked April’s evolution from an undisciplined spender to a thoughtful, focused person. It really is about finally maturing, isn’t it? Accepting that every action has consequences and YOU control those events.
August 5th, 2009 at 6:17 am
Yeah, I could relate to this, too. My boyfriend cut up his credit card last night, and I kept asking him, “but what if we need to rent a car? What if you need something online? What if…”, but I know that he made the right choice for him. It’s just too easy otherwise.
Mindful spending, mindful living — it sounds like a better way to be.
August 5th, 2009 at 6:17 am
I enjoyed the post as well.
It reminded me of a shopping experience I had with a friend - I personally don’t buy much at all, and if I do, I agonize over choices (it once took me 30 minutes to pick one bottle of shampoo over another). Her philosophy was if you can’t decide, buy em both, and return one later. That sorta made sense … but I can see how it would be a gigantic waste of money. What if you didn’t get around to returning the unwanted thing in the 30 day window? Beyond that, I remember something from my psych courses that people tend to like the things they end up with: the example was of people on a game show who won a toaster instead of the new fridge - after a couple weeks, the people had convinced themselves that they wanted the toaster more than the new fridge. Anyway, buying both things because you can’t decide which is better for your situation seems really dangerous, because you might convince yourself you love both, and even if you don’t, you might never get around to getting your money back for the extra thing you bought.
So anyway, I just bring this up as an example of a shopping habit that makes some sense (I bet my friend doesn’t spend much time weighing price versus quality versus need), but could become a really horrible habit.
August 5th, 2009 at 6:26 am
I like April’s post. Understanding the emotional/psychological reasons why we spend & where we spend are at the core of really changing our behaviors. And knowing that other people have undergone transformation helps me to believe that I will be able to keep on doing it too. Very encouraging.
The best thing that I did for myself to stop unnecessary spending was to cancel catalog subscriptions and stop wandering in stores. If I don’t window shop, I tend not to shop at all. I’m much more responsible now about buying only what I need and planning for it. (Ex. I need a new bathing suit, but now I shop online for it where I can get rewards as part of my checking account and I’m less likely to see other things I like.)
Another shopping tip (maybe I read it here?), but it’s been shown that if you get the tactile sensation of an item, you’re more likely to buy it. So if you’re in a clothing store and feel the cloth of a shirt, you’re more likely to ultimately buy it. Another reason to stay out of the stores.
August 5th, 2009 at 6:35 am
This is a great post. Thank you for sharing this personal experience with us. The emotion versus logic battle could not be any more true, and is something I’m battling with now.
Also I like the list of items that make you happy. I may try that out myself.
August 5th, 2009 at 6:45 am
But what if shopping actually IS something that makes someone happy?
August 5th, 2009 at 6:59 am
@Kate–Love that tip about avoiding the tactile sensation!
@Matt–I actually love shopping. Anthropologie is my kryptonite. But I wasn’t able to enjoy things I bought because I had debt hanging over me, and many times it was Stuff I only wanted in the moment. There was a lot of guilt afterward, and that’s not good. When I make a mindful purchase these days, I enjoy the heck out of what I bought because I know I can afford it and I know it’s something I truly want and will use.
But if someone has to shop daily to be happy, maybe he or she should become a personal shopper!
August 5th, 2009 at 7:11 am
Finding activities create flow is so important to finding some meaning in life. The danger is in finding flow in activities that lead to the same temptations we had before we found them.
When I was in college, I got really into home recording. I could stay up 36 hours straight working on a recording and regularly did on the weekends. However, it didn’t take long to get distracted by all the awesome (and expensive) gear available to make my recordings better. Over several years, I spent a huge chunk of my money on recording equipment.
Now, I’m a little older, and quite a lot busier. I still have all my studio in the basement, but I rarely use it. Instead, I make simple recordings from time to time on an old 4-track cassette recorder that I bought long ago for $100 and it makes me just as happy.
I never needed all that stuff.
August 5th, 2009 at 7:12 am
@Matt B.
I don’t think shopping can truly make someone happy unless he is in a position to comfortably afford it.
August 5th, 2009 at 7:21 am
This was simply fantastic. My favorite of the sampling we have been exposed to so far. I would like to see the next offering by this candidate have something more tangible in line with frugality. That being said, I enjoyed this immensely.
August 5th, 2009 at 7:21 am
I’m pretty surprised with how bad the economy is, there would really be “mindless spenders” out there. That said, if there are, then like the article says, the #1 thing to do is TRACK YOU MONEY for a couple weeks to wake yourself up from self destruction.
Shop if you want to. But beaware of the return policy and return everything!
Best,
RB
August 5th, 2009 at 7:25 am
Great post, April! Very helpful
August 5th, 2009 at 7:28 am
Great post April! Very insightful and not “too tough on myself” at the same time. Enjoyed it, thanks.
August 5th, 2009 at 7:31 am
I’m definitely working on my impulse spending. I’ve spent a lot of time soul searching (for lack of better words), and I have realized that no, simply accumulating Stuff I can’t really afford doesn’t make me happy. When I give my purchases a bit of thought, and look forward to them, then I enjoy the purchase more. Lots of people don’t naturally get satisfaction from the “simple things”, sadly. It’s often a concentrated effort on my part to go for a walk without ending up at the mall, but I am learning to enjoy life without spending, and it is very freeing. My debt is going down and I am a lot happier than I was a year ago when I was a few months out of school and mindlessly spending.
August 5th, 2009 at 7:34 am
I love the idea of a visual. I’m printing off a picture of beautiful Hawaii to tack up on the wall. My husband and I have made it a goal to be financially prepared to take that trip on our 10 year anniversary.
Thanks for the inspiration.
August 5th, 2009 at 7:37 am
April–this is a truly great post! I love the discussion of Flow. There are activities I get involved with where I lose myself and my concerns, and just produce and/or enjoy what I’m doing! But I never had an idea that there was a word to describe it.
On the spending priorities, I think the problem we all have to one degree or another is that we live in a culture that tells us we can have it all. We don’t have to chose between A and B, we can have them both, and while were at it, we can add C and D to the pile to.
It isn’t at all realistic, but emotionally it’s empowering to always say “yes” to yourself. It takes sustained effort and attitude changes to reverse that mindset and I’m not sure we’re ever free of it, not as long as the TV is on!
August 5th, 2009 at 7:39 am
This is a great post. It’s the best of the three samples we’ve seen, as far as I’m concerned.
I don’t usually comment although I read this blog about 5 days of the week. I already hope to read more posts by April!!
August 5th, 2009 at 7:40 am
Oh I forgot to mention one of the most powerful ways I control my spending is to go a, “week with no spending” (I literally prepay any bills that might fall during that week etc. to ensure that I spend nothing during that week). It sort of feels like fasting is a way — you feel the pain for a day or so and then it subsides. You are just acutely aware of everything you are doing — and how to avoid spending a dime. I do it for a week partly because I think a month is unreasonable for me, and partly because I like to do it several times throughout the year.
The great thing about it as well is that you get a great picture about what you actually NEED to spend money on. Also, when you get your paycheck and realize how much extra money you have, you will be in shock!!!
I will say though, now that I am married (2 months ago) this has become more difficult. My wife (full time grad student) doesn’t like the idea. The first time we went for the “week with no spending” as a married couple, she found a pair of boots that she HAD to have… They were worth every penny
August 5th, 2009 at 7:42 am
I really related to April’s article. I have been struggling with the emotional side of spending/saving for a few years. I am more mindful now when shopping. There is no joy in a purchase that I feel guilty about. How much time does it really take to change?
August 5th, 2009 at 7:43 am
I love this post! It’s very insightful and fits well with the style of your blog and the themes you often emphasize, but also gives us a different voice. Plus, April is a very good writer.
August 5th, 2009 at 7:47 am
@Kevin–Spending can definitely make a person feel powerful. When I’d drop (what was to me) a significant amount of money in a store, it made me feel important. Now THAT is ridiculous! Was I not a worthy person before I bought those things?
@Nate–I’ve been considering a spending fast, too! Every month I see little areas where money slipped away, and it seems like a good challenge to opt out of consumerism for a set period of time. A fast, like you said. If I tried it for a month, though, I’d have to have a fresh produce exception.
Thank you to everyone for the kind words–so glad you’ve found this useful!
August 5th, 2009 at 7:49 am
Liked this post a lot. I’d like to see more posts adressing how to bridge the gap between what we know we should be doing and what we actually do when it comes to money.
August 5th, 2009 at 7:56 am
I think that the best way to diminish negative emotions is by replacing them with positive emotions. I cut my spending dramatically without ever feeling a need to practice any self-denial. I made detailed plans as to what I would do with the money saved by not giving in to the urge to participate in mindless consumerism. From that point forward, it was making progress on my plan that excited me. Rather than trying to make myself feel good by spending I was making myself feel good by saving.
It was a question of rejecting the images of “The Good Life” pushed on my by marketers by replacing them with images of “the Good Life” dreamed up in my own head. I created Commercials for Saving Money and I did everything they told me to do.
Rob
August 5th, 2009 at 7:57 am
Like several other responders, I like the idea of using cleverly placed visual reminders of one’s larger goals as a way to help curb unnecessary spending. In one of J.D.’s earlier posts, he talked about removing obstacles that stand between you and your goals — be they financial or otherwise. April’s visual reminders are a way to ADD obstacles between you and your urge to spend. Same principle, reverse application: nice.
I’ll definitely give it a try.
August 5th, 2009 at 7:57 am
I second what -hilde- said. I know what to do, I just can’t seem to get myself to do it.
Loved the post!
August 5th, 2009 at 8:00 am
Terrific post and I could really identify with the perspective and the personal take on the situation. Good luck with the writing position April, look forward to reading more of your insights!
August 5th, 2009 at 8:04 am
first time commenter, though i’ve been reading GRS for months now and i love it. keep up the good work, jd, i love your practicability and good humour you offer advice with.
there, sucking up out of the way
i really enjoyed this post too, and will look forward to whatever else april has to write. wishing you luck in finding the right person to be your co-writer
xx
August 5th, 2009 at 8:07 am
If I had to vote today, it would be for this article. It’s just what I need to read right now. I can’t wait for the future submissions from other contestants!
August 5th, 2009 at 8:11 am
I loved this post, especially because I very much identify with the emotional high that comes from shopping, especially for clothes, accessories, etc. I’ve managed to avoid debt so far, but one of the things stopping me from achieving my savings goals is my attitude towards Stuff as a way to reinvent myself. I’ve started the process of purging, and now you’ve inspired me to make my own list of things that make me happy.
August 5th, 2009 at 8:17 am
I have been a reader of GRS for over a year and this is the first time I’ve felt compelled to comment. I feel like I could’ve written this post myself - only it likely wouldn’t have sounded nearly as professional
I rode the rollercoaster for years and used shopping as a way to fill other voids in my life. I love this article because it reminded me how much progress I’ve made.
It’s easy to still get down on myself because I bought a $20 set of BBQ tools on impulse at the grocery store (just an example) instead of congratulating myself for only coming home with one item that wasn’t on my weekly grocery list when I used to shop 3-4 times a week without a list!
In the past year I have paid off $15 000 of consumer debt, but sometimes I forget that because I consentrate on what’s left owing.
April - thanks for reminding us that it’s a day to day process. I love that you can share your perspective without it coming across as a lecture.
August 5th, 2009 at 8:17 am
Great read April. That part about being a perfectionist being exhausting really spoke to me. In my job as a CPA I have to be detail-oriented, but sometimes (OK most of the time) that also carries over to my personal life. I demand perfection from everybody. That causes stress, especially with my wife. I realize I need to “let it go” and I’m working on it.
August 5th, 2009 at 8:24 am
Now with better spelling: Best writer yet. Great. I come here in part for high quality, pure, mainline=able memoir in serial form, (which April’s post makes me think of because she does it well). Er, OK, I come for a fantastic combination of that narrative with service journalism. But I don’t go to msnbc or other money sites, even though perhaps I “should,” that is, the journalism isn’t even vaguely as sticky without the ongoing story. So. JD, a roundabout plea for the personal in your eventual book: keep the story in it, keep yourself in it. But try to resist “Get Rich Slowly” the TV show ; )
August 5th, 2009 at 8:34 am
This was a great post April, I have been able to eliminate almost $9,000 in credit card debt in 10 month using a lot of this mental focus. As you mentioned a big key for me was focusing on my ultimate goals. I will make my last payment in about 1 month and boy will I feel free and more importantly it will never happen again!!
August 5th, 2009 at 8:35 am
Absolutely loved this article. I think the psychological aspect of money is fascinating. The article made me think about a Zen Habits simplicity link from the GRS blog a while ago. It’s all about prioritizing.
Now, I’m going to go and cut out that picture of a vineyard in California and go from there!
August 5th, 2009 at 8:37 am
Great post. I really relate with the part that you wrote about flow. I find that when I’m engaged in activities and hobbies that get me in the “zone,” I forget about the trivial stuff in life and things are much more enjoyable. I also can relate with the perfectionism stuff. I am my own worst enemy. That’s a big battle and I think we all can get ourselves down more than anyone else could. Thanks for beating down the path for the rest of us and giving us a fresh perspective.
August 5th, 2009 at 8:38 am
This is exactly how I feel about my credit card and my past emotionally — great article! Thank you for such insighful and honest writing!
August 5th, 2009 at 8:40 am
More posts like this please!!
I really enjoyed the discussion of the relationship between personal finances and life’s purpose/priorities. I love reading about how April is learning how to live well while spending less money.
This was spot on! Thank you, April!
August 5th, 2009 at 8:44 am
Great post/great voice. I agree that the first step on any meaningful journey is to know yourself and why you do the things you do. (& in this context, why you buy the things you buy!)
and….Perfect is Boring!!
Cheers~
August 5th, 2009 at 8:45 am
Quality post, April. Another reason why mindful spending feels empowering is that you can now trust yourself to make the right money decision in spite of fickle emotions and peer pressure. In effect, you became a powerful decision-maker.
August 5th, 2009 at 8:45 am
Personally I think JD has it together and sometimes I find that frustrating. He doesn’t even have the delayed gratification of the mini-cooper to inspire me. Its kind of reading a weight loss advice column written by a skinny person at times, inspiring, but sometimes not relateable. This article was relateable and i liked that. However, as a gap in the personal finance picture I think I would personally benefit from hearing from someone still figuring out how to get control.
August 5th, 2009 at 8:57 am
@Lise (#47)
Yes, yes yes. This is one of the things I’m trying to address by finding another writer or two. I’m not perfect, and I don’t mean to sound like I am. But I’ve made huge strides. Using your analogy, it’s as if I’ve lost the weight and am fit now, and making mostly correct choices (with some chocolate chip cookies now and then). I recognize that this works for some people, but others need to hear from somebody still in the process, as I was when I started GRS.
August 5th, 2009 at 9:00 am
Another great GRS post; thanks April and JD!
I would like to expand on a couple of things April covered:
1) Emotions truly do drive our intentions, judgments, and behaviors. What we often fail to recognize is that this happens unconsciously. Noble prize winning psychologist, Daniel Kahneman, describes the “affect heuristic” as the most important element of our psyches leading to actual behaviors. The affect heuristic is primarily unconscious and represents our “gut”, emotional response to every stimulus in our environment.
2) Materialism is toxic. Loads of scientific research is showing that emotional connections with things over experiences is very bad for our psychological and physical health. It is not surprising that there is a connection,for April, between weight gain/loss and identification with things.
3) April does not cover an important part of this story. Advertisements, and the lifestyle images they portray, affect all of us (consciously and unconsciously). It is VERY important to disconnect from the advertising machine if we are truly going to achieve personal and financial freedom.
Thanks again…
August 5th, 2009 at 9:03 am
I liked the post okay, but personally preferred the previous 2. I rarely get that much out of a broad piece like this; I like the ones about specific day to day stuff like this week’s on grocery shopping or couch surfing. I thought both were really well written and came at practical stuff from a new angle. Sorry to be a slightly negative voice but if I had to vote today I would vote for Monday’s or Tuesday’s writer.
August 5th, 2009 at 9:11 am
When I was in debt and I’d read blogs on frugality, sometimes it seemed impossible to ever get to the point where, say, I could pawn my engagement ring to max out my IRA. For me, that isn’t going to happen unless we’re starving. I am attached to my ring, and even if it’s materialistic, it’s my truth. I admire people that can detach from things to that degree, but I don’t know that it will ever be something I could do. I can’t relate to that degree of frugality.
Also, though now I’m out of debt, I sort of feel like spending is similar to alcoholism–it’s a daily choice to be mindful. And sometimes I slip and wind up returning things to the store. And sometimes I slip and don’t return things to the store! I’m not trying to be perfect anymore, though, just better.
August 5th, 2009 at 9:19 am
Anyone who has been to, or is on a trip to DebtTown and back can relate. Opening the credit card bill, tallying the buys and realizing the bank is right again this month.
I like this post for its look at the behavioral side of money. I think most people get the concept of money in, money out, but can’t apply it because of behaviors. They simply can’t make the change, or they put off the change, knowing it’s slowing financial progress.
This post covers a broad topic, sure, but it’s perhaps the most important thing to look at when you’re someone who is aware the CC bill is too high -And you’re aware it’ll be even higher next month. No matter the catalyst, behavior has to change.
August 5th, 2009 at 9:21 am
I like this post as well. You can read all of the advice and frugality tips in the world, but if you are not in the right place mentally to apply them, then they are useless.
The quote at the beginning of the article is spot on. RB @ RichBy30RetireBy40 (#18) seems to not get that. A bad economy isn’t automatically enough to shake up somebody’s emotional problems and in fact, I think it could cause more spending problems as people earn less and spend more (retail therapy!) and bury their heads even deeper in the sand.
August 5th, 2009 at 9:22 am
You hit the nail on multiple heads.
Dee
August 5th, 2009 at 9:23 am
I had never head about the term “flow” before, but when I read this I knew exactly what you meant. When I am sewing or making cards sometimes I lose track of time (in a great way). I wish I had more time to do those kinds of things.
I too go through different boughts of purging Stuff. When I look at some Stuff the first time around I think, “I will definitely need that sometime soon”, or “I LOVE that, I can’t get rid of it!”, but the next time I purge Stuff, I will look at the same thing and think “I haven’t used it this entire time, it must be replaceable or unecessary.
Excellent post with lots to think about!
August 5th, 2009 at 9:47 am
Arg, I agree with you. It’s not that I actively disliked this post, but I definitely enjoyed the previous two articles a lot more.
August 5th, 2009 at 10:06 am
This is my favorite post I’ve read in a while. It really resonates with me, I’m in a place where I’m finally starting to track my spending and figure out why all my money seems to keep disappearing every month!
August 5th, 2009 at 10:06 am
Yeah! This is a great fit for GRS!
August 5th, 2009 at 10:10 am
Bravo, April, great post!!
I’m kinda sorta struggling with it right now, in fact. There’s this shirt that I want. Badly. I’ve seen it two or three times at the mall, and looked up the price online… $23. I feel silly for agonizing over it so much, but when I’ve only got $45 to spend, it’s a huge chunk of that.
Anyhow, I’ve convinced myself that it’ll be THE shirt that changes my life. Worked a whole bunch of outfits around it in my head. I want it something awful, that’s for sure.
Have I gotten it yet? Nope. I’m kind of purposely avoiding it now. There’s an event later on in the year that I want to go to, and I want a great outfit for it. Well, I’ve got another dress that would work very well too… (And is BCBG, no less.) So I’m waiting it out to see if this is a passing thing or not. (Shirt’s plaid anyhow, which seems to be a huge trend right now but might fade quickly.)
Maybe I’ll treat myself to the $4 cocktail ring instead, to even it all out.
August 5th, 2009 at 10:11 am
This post really stuck a chord for me. Love the fight club reference….it’s a quote that comes to mind every time a catalog finds its way to my mailbox!
Csikszentmihalyi, and his colleague, Martin Seligman have written several books on happiness which might be of interest to readers who liked this article.
August 5th, 2009 at 10:17 am
Not to be the voice of criticism…but I got bored after reading the 3rd paragraph. I felt like in order to read the post, I needed to settle in with a good 10 minutes of focused time (which I can’t do with a toddler)!
August 5th, 2009 at 10:25 am
I really liked this article, though I generally like this type of article — about the reasons for our behaviors and self-awareness of the factors that drive our decisions. The topic of “flow” is one I find very interesting, though I also find it a bit out of place in this article, just because I don’t think it necessarily correlates strongly with things that bring us happiness, but that’s an interesting idea to explore, too. I also haven’t read the book, so my knowledge here is a bit limited.
I think that articles like this, that encourage us to examine what we do, and why we do it are *far* more valuable than a list of “tips” of things we should do. Tips are easy to ignore when you really lack the understanding behind why they might be beneficial. Articles like this encourage us to look beyond the surface and develop that sort of understanding. Then we really don’t *need* the tips, they’ll seem largely obvious once we know why we make the decisions that we do.
It seems there are definitely different groups of readers posting in the comments, I disagree completely with (for example) Nancy (#56), but it seems that more readers agree with her than with me, based on the other comments.
To comment on the “weight loss” analogy: I’d much rather read weight-loss advice from someone who is fantastically fit now but used to be fat than someone who is currently fat and obviously hasn’t really figured out what to do. I’d even take the advice of someone who’s *never* been fat over the advice of the fat guy, because whatever they’ve been doing their whole life seems to work. This is part of the reason that I like J.D.’s site in the first place.
August 5th, 2009 at 10:34 am
For visualizing goals — how about putting a pic of your financial goals in the driver’s license “window” in your wallet, to give you one more little push away from impulse purchases.
My $0.02 on the post I thought it was very good, but I liked the concrete “Actionable” nature of the couch surfing post the best so far
August 5th, 2009 at 10:34 am
Seeing myself the way I should is also a problem I’ve had. Not until a couple weeks ago did I start truly changing. I’m working hard to be a reformed perfectionist.
On another note, there’s one thing I JUST discovered after reading your article. I LIKE to spend money where it’s fast and easy (i.e. the toll bridge just outside my town accepts my credit card as fast as I can swipe it!…amazing! It totally beats scrounging for the cash). Kind of stupid to get excited about, but the faster and easier I can purchase something, the more I like to spend my money there. Honestly, I can’t wait to pay for things, start my car, unlock my house etc. all from my secure cell phone. Anyway, very good article!
JD - I think you found your next staff writer. We can tell you agree… ~:-)
August 5th, 2009 at 10:35 am
Rob Bennett (30)–”…rejecting the images of “The Good Life” pushed on my by marketers by replacing them with images of “the Good Life” dreamed up in my own head.”
That’s quite brilliant. Much of the problem we all have with living within our means is the fact that we’re living lives in which the goals and aspirations we follow are laid out by someone else.
We’re flooded with messages telling us what the Good Life looks like, how it should feel, how we can be a part of it and even what the “rules” are (yes, there are rules to it!). They herd us into this sanitized vision of what a successful life should be and can even make us feel a little lousy if we don’t conform. It isn’t a comfortable place for the non-conformist.
The essential problem with it is that it’s insatiable (Rule #1, you can never have enough). So we drive ahead, forcing ourselves to press on playing a game we never seriously question. For most of us, it puts us out of our element, the very place we’re most likely to be out of control. Mission accomplished.
August 5th, 2009 at 11:08 am
Great Post!! I enjoyed reading this and identified with this to a T.
I would love to hear more from her.
August 5th, 2009 at 11:12 am
Liked the attitude in this one.
August 5th, 2009 at 11:14 am
seriously, these potential staff writers are writing way too long of articles. my attention span isn’t so long. i’ll try to read them, but i’m finding myself just giving up and moving on.
August 5th, 2009 at 11:18 am
Really enjoyed this post. April would indeed fit well with the GRS community. I can completely relate to everything she wrote, as I continue to go through the same process of refining my attempts to live a more mindful life. I fail miserably every single day (just this morning, I sat in the car and struggled with the thought of buying yet another purse to add to my ever-growing collection, while also juggling the thought of my ever-growing debt), but posts like these remind me of what truly matters, what makes me happy and gives me peace.
What I especially liked about the post is its allusion to Buddhist precepts. I know that we all have this idea of Buddhism as being all about contemplating one’s navel on a mountaintop (as April herself pointed out in the post), but in reality it’s a very practical life philosophy that, at its core, is really just about living a mindful, compassionate life.
I hope to read more of April’s work here on GRS!
Salut,
Marjorie
August 5th, 2009 at 11:19 am
I discovered that when I started losing weight, I started shopping (home decor, books, housewares). Since I wasn’t using the food to get “high,” I had to turn to something else, which for me was shopping. Thankfully, it wasn’t as hard a habit to break as picking up a cookie, but there were moments.
Great post, April!
August 5th, 2009 at 11:21 am
I had to laugh when you spoke of trying on clothes two sizes too big. I’ve been there! I lost about 30 pounds and I still kept wearing my old clothes that hung on me like a big burlap bag. In my head they still felt tight.
It speaks volumes as to how many things that seem external (weight, money, even love) is 99% mental.
Cheers!
Brigid
August 5th, 2009 at 11:23 am
I’m chiming in with others to say I really did like this post and the writing style. So far this is the best fit for the new staff writer.
August 5th, 2009 at 11:25 am
Great article April. I went to your website and read some of your other articles - I really enjoyed your style.
Flow - such a wonderful concept, I have three activities that totally immerse me in the “flow”, reading, scuba diving and riding my motorcycle. I was introduced to the concept of “flow” on a scuba diving trip when a sitting around sipping a favorite brew with fellow divers at the end of the day. One of the more astute partiers asked us what we thought about while diving… silence, we were all a bit stunned because not one of us could recall thinking about anything particular. He said, “exactly, when I’m diving I’m completely absorbed in the moment and can’t think about anything else even if I want to.” He summed it up perfectly, we all knew exactly what he meant - talk about FLOW!
August 5th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
Thanks for the great article. It made me think, again, about how I can *approach* the topic of spending. Just the reminder I needed.
Personally I find the discussion of what we *actually* do, and why, to be more interesting and more valuable than lists of what we *should* do.
August 5th, 2009 at 12:21 pm
Hi J.D. and April, I’m another who thinks April is the best fit to date with GRS. This was a well-written piece that put a graceful, personal interpretation on concepts we may have seen before, but maybe not all in the same context.
The notion of “flow” could do with a lot more exploration in the coming months. So many people are searching for new directions, whether in managing household clutter, creating a new financial plan, or undertaking a career change. Finding those activities that completely take us out of ourselves can increase motivation to do the hard things, just because it gives the brain a rest from constantly rethinking.
We could also look more attentively at what makes us happy. I can personally attest that a relatively mindless job in which there is no room for advancement becomes quite bearable when one’s leisure time is employed in ways that build joy.
August 5th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
This post was intense. Anyone who quotes Fight Club is my friend.
I’ve never dealt with mindless spending. I’ve always had an aversion to clutter, so I can rarely convince myself to buy something that isn’t absolutely necessary. Although it is hard to pass on Erika Pekkari dust ruffles.
I get into flow when I build models.
August 5th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
Wow, yeah, this really strikes a chord. Nice writing style too. It really breaks things up to have those quotations.
August 5th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
I really enjoyed this post and can definitely relate to it. I agree that understanding the emotional reasons why we spend is key in working toward financial freedom. I particularly liked the part about finding your “flow” and focusing on these activities, especially ones that do not require much money.
August 5th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
Wow, I think the reason that so many people can relate to this post is that most of us have been in the exact same place in our lives. I know I have!
I, too, love any fight club reference :-)!
Can’t wait to see your second article!
August 5th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
Two (more) thumbs up!
I like the “tips” articles, they’re useful, but it’s this type that really interests me & draws me in. The psychology of money and spending fascinates me.
Thanks April & JD!
August 5th, 2009 at 1:26 pm
I loved this post, and am looking forward to seeing more of April’s writing on GRS. It was great because it was highly readable and well-written, it shared useful information from a personal perspective, but most important: I got a nugget of advice from it I had never seen before that I’m excited to use. I’m off to find photos of my goals right now and put them in my money notebook!
@April & Nate - instead of fasting for a week, I do a weekly “Sabbath” in which we spend no money and don’t drive. I think I grabbed that idea first from Michael Pollan.
August 5th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
Awesome post, April! Your writing is very in-line with my own way of thinking and I felt like nodding in agreement to much of what you posted. The flow segment didn’t seem to be tied-in well with the overall topic, JMO. It would be a great stand-alone post idea, though.
I’m also on the other side now. I haven’t changed very much but my awareness has; being mindful has drastically switched my perspective to an empowered one.
The posts I most enjoy deal with are like this one; why we do what we do, perspective shifts about how we do what do, etc. Amber (#53) said it perfectly, “You can read all of the advice and frugality tips in the world, but if you are not in the right place mentally to apply them, then they are useless.”
Although I greatly enjoyed this post, it does resonate with being just like J.D.’s style…which I would greatly appreciate reading more of but that isn’t what he is seeking.
August 5th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
I thought we were looking for someone with a slightly different voice than JD?
August 5th, 2009 at 2:32 pm
@quinsy:
Not me. I’m pretty anti-excited about guest posts or the future of having a lot of posts written by people other than JD. This post made the idea more bearable to me.
August 5th, 2009 at 2:48 pm
Thanks for sharing your story. These are the kind of stories that keep me coming back to this site.
August 5th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
I really liked this post as well.
Pros:
Nice to have a female voice to balance JD’s male view
I like stories about emotions and money, not just dry facts
Cons:
Situation is very similar to JDs; would be nice to hear from someone in a different position
Might not be enough “meat” here — I agree that the next submission should be more practical, less contemplative (if that makes sense)
I agree with the commenter who noted that these guests posts are too long. I feel like the writers are trying to “wow” us with the amount of content, but it’s actually hurting them. One benefit of GRS is the way the posts are quick to read, yet full of information. Please edit, your posts will be more powerful!
August 5th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
I agree with quinsy.
I thought the article was excellent, but JD said it best himself, “I think that I could have written that myself!”
August 5th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
April - Very nice article. Like many others, I enjoy your writing style. When someone is humble and sharing their experience to help others - it shows.
I have to chuckle because I was looking at Fight Club quotes yesterday and then the blog post today had a quote!
I look forward to reading your second article
August 5th, 2009 at 3:07 pm
Liked the post, but it was long and felt very (too) thoroughly edited. This could just as easily have been a JD post, which is one reason most people liked it. I’d be more curious to see what April could whip up in a short timeline, with a different focus.
Of all the writers so far, though, April’s comments in the after-discussion were the most thoughtful and best to keep the conversation moving. I liked that.
August 5th, 2009 at 3:53 pm
JD, I hope that you will write a future post about the story of a small business owner hiring his first employee. I know it could fill a book (ha) but I would be interested in the two minute summary of lessons learned.
August 5th, 2009 at 5:17 pm
Good article! I enjoyed that.
I still struggle with mindless spending but not so much with stuff as with eating out in restaurants. This has been such a hard habit to break because I do have a lot of fond memories of times spent eating out with family and friends. Someone suggests eating out and my brain says, “Good times!!” I’m overcoming it bit by bit and eating out less and less.
As for flow, I find it on the beach or any outdoor activity really and I’m getting back into writing so maybe I’ll find it there too.
August 5th, 2009 at 5:41 pm
I love this article because I can relate to it so much right now. My husband & I have looked around our house recently & realized how much clutter we have. Mindless spending is how we got here. A few dollars here, a few dollars there. We decided to clean up our house while saving for something positive. We’ve been selling the clutter on Amazon & craigslist & putting the money into a savings account that we plan to use to take an extended cross-country road trip next year. It feels very freeing to rid our lives of the clutter and know that we have a great adventure that we will be able to take because of it!
August 5th, 2009 at 5:52 pm
I have read this blog for about a year and a half but never before felt called to post.
JD, I would really love to see April come on as a staff writer. I really enjoyed this article! Thoughtful, very well written, well researched, insightful….it’s fabulous!
I hope to see more articles of this quality from April on this blog for years to come.
August 5th, 2009 at 6:50 pm
I find several of these ideas apply to my situation with overeating. Thank you for summarizing things so well.
August 5th, 2009 at 7:07 pm
JD, I think you’ve found your staff writer. April, you’re a natural. Just great writing, easy to read, and personable.
I siphoned up this post and I can totally relate to it on many levels. Being present and aware of what goals you’re going after is really important and something that I strive to do (even though I do falter some of the time).
August 5th, 2009 at 7:37 pm
April, thanks for writing a nice piece. I will apply it to my addiction to reading all the “comments” to nice posts! (Seriously, did I have to read all the comments?!)
I enjoyed your writing style and your story. Hopefully, you have not set the bar too high for yourself
You will be fine, because you will be yourself!
I have added Fight Club to the the list of movies I should watch next month.
I am looking forward to your next piece.
August 5th, 2009 at 7:50 pm
I just want to echo some of these other people and say that this piece was beautifully written. It very much spoke to me and my attitudes (previous and present) toward money. And I loved the quotes - I thought they were really relevant to the article and not used in a pretentious way. What a great writer!!
August 5th, 2009 at 8:25 pm
April I love your honesty and the integrity of your story. What a great piece! I loved the quotes, LOVED the reference to Flow. Thank you for writing an article that fed my mind and tickled my soul.
August 5th, 2009 at 9:43 pm
In the past, I mindlessly spent like April. It is very hard to control, even when you have the best of intentions and most optimistic goals.
My biggest step was to make smaller goals. If I could accomplish small things by saving money, I eventually saved a ton of money and achieved my long-term goals.
August 5th, 2009 at 10:26 pm
I agree with those that said that April was similar to JD. Is that what you want, JD?
I enjoyed it thoroughly because these are the types of articles I prefer. Next time ask her to write something like the one about grocery shopping, or something less “emotionally” oriented.
I also enjoyed the grocery shopping one. I didn’t get through the couch surfing one all the way. Not because of the writing style, but because I understood it to be about exchanging homes and I don’t want to do that for a vacation. I’d have to spend too much time getting my house ready for a vacation