Renters Insurance: Peace of Mind for Ten Bucks a Month Print
Wednesday, 23rd September 2009 (by April)This article is about House and Home, Insurance
This post is from GRS staff writer April Dykman.
On 02 August 2005, my friend Frank and his partner awoke at 2:45 a.m. to the dog barking and a neighbor knocking on their door. The apartment complex was on fire. They grabbed their dog and whatever they could carry and ran from the building.
“We lost everything,” he says. Later they’d find out that it was arson. A former employee of the apartment complex stole rent checks and set the office on fire. Frank was moving into a new apartment in ten days, and the new complex agreed to let them move in early. “We moved in with a plastic bag of groceries, paid for with a $50 food voucher from the Red Cross,” he says. The other 70 displaced tenants stayed in Red Cross shelters.
To make matters worse, Frank didn’t have renters insurance. “We didn’t think we’d ever need it,” he says. “You don’t see why you should pay this extra bill until you’re in a situation where you need it.” They had to start over from scratch.
Why renters skip the insurance
There are any number of reasons renters don’t think insurance is a necessary expense. I myself didn’t have a policy until Frank’s situation motivated me to get one. Common reasons renters forgo an insurance policy include the following:
- “What are the odds anything will happen?” The odds are not in your favor. The Bureau of Justice Statistics reports that renters are 50 percent more likely to be burglarized than homeowners.
- “My landlord has insurance.” That means that your landlord (or condo association) has their valuables — the building — protected. Your belongings are not covered.
- “I can’t afford renters insurance.” Many people are willing to spend a couple hundred dollars on clothes, but won’t spend the cash to protect themselves from the risk of losing everything they own. It’s possible to find a policy for $10-12 per month, though your premium will depend on location, the deductible, the insurance company, and coverage needs.
There are ways to lower the cost of coverage, including raising your deductible (make sure you can afford it, though) and having protective devices such as smoke detectors, extinguishers, and security alarms. Some insurance companies offer discounts to senior citizens. Also look for a multi-line discount, which is a discount for buying more than one type of policy from the same company (e.g., renters insurance and auto insurance).
I suspect that the main reason most people don’t have a policy, though, is that they don’t understand how renters insurance works, or why they need it.
Renters insurance 101
Renters need a HO-4 policy. Condominium owners need a HO-6 policy. Both will cover personal property loss from “named perils,” which is insurance-speak for what you’re insured against. Your policy will likely include the following named perils:
- Fire and lightning
- Windstorm and hail
- Smoke
- Vandalism and malicious mischief
- Theft
- Accidental discharge of water
Other named perils covered sound like scenes from Die Hard (explosion, riot, damage caused by air crafts and falling objects), but I suppose you never know when German radical activists might terrorize your Christmas party.
Renters insurance also includes liability protection, which covers medical expenses for a person injured on your property and legal defense, if necessary. Additionally, if your apartment or condo becomes uninhabitable due to a named peril, your coverage will pay for somewhere to live in the meantime.
Buying a policy
Shopping for renters insurance is similar to shopping for other types of policies. Here are the basic steps:
Take inventory. This seems to be the step that most of us dread, but it’s where we should start. (Confession: I haven’t done it yet. It’s been languishing on my to-do list for almost a year now, but I’m going to make it a top priority.) If you lost everything, it’d be awful to have to recall every item you owned and it’s value. Better to document it. Here’s the plan of action:
- Photograph or videotape each room.
- List the value and serial and model number of items.
- Attach receipts, if you have them.
- Save the list and the photos or video to a DVD, and make at least three copies. Keep one copy in a fireproof place, one at an off-site location (could be a parent’s house or a safe-deposit box), and send one to your insurer.
There also are software programs that walk you through the process. The Insurance Information Institute provides free inventory software that helps you complete a room-by-room inventory.
Prepare. Write down a set of questions you want to ask your potential insurance providers. Some suggestions include:
- Do you have brochures or any information you can send me in the mail? (Keep the ones from insurers that appear to be a good fit and use them to compare each provider’s policies.)
- What could cause my rates to increase?
- What discounts do you offer?
- Does the liability insurance cover legal defense and medical expenses?
- Do you pay actual cash value (ACV) or replacement cost coverage? (ACV coverage pays what your property was worth at the time it was destroyed or stolen, minus the deductible. Replacement cost coverage pays what it will cost to replace the items, minus the deductible. It costs more in premiums, but pays more if you file a claim.)
- Do you offer separate policies for roommates? (Alternatively, talk to your roommate about splitting the cost of a policy.)
Shop around. To find the right provider and policy, consider the following:
- Contact the insurance company that provides your auto insurance policy. Ask about multi-line discounts.
- Call your local bank. Some banks offer insurance policies.
- Search “renters insurance” online. Most providers have Web sites that give you a free quote.
- Ask friends and neighbors which company they use, and if they are happy with their experience.
Updating your policy
Renters insurance is like many other forms of insurance - not fun to think about. But it isn’t a Ron Popeil rotisserie — don’t set it and forget it. Stay in touch with your agent to make sure you’re getting the best deal and taking advantage of new options or discounts. Also, be sure to contact her if your living situation changes, as in the following situations:
- You moved. Each residence requires a unique policy.
- You got a roommate: human or furball. You’ll need to decide on a separate or shared policy for the former. Make sure the latter is listed in your liability coverage.
- You bought an expensive bauble or a pricey new toy. You need to have it listed in your policy, or you might need a separate rider to cover it.
It’s easier than you might think to find an affordable renters policy with good coverage, and it’s time and money well-spent. As my friend Frank says, “It’s the cheapest bill you’ll have. For very little money, we could have replaced everything we lost.”
If you are a renter, do you have renters insurance? If not, is there a reason you don’t have it?
Photo by DVS.

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September 23rd, 2009 at 5:11 am
My wife and I do have renter’s insurance. Although we really don’t have all that much “stuff,” what we do have is important to us and would be difficult to replace without some help. Like you said, we pay right about 11 dollars per month for a policy covering just about everything (compare this to our cell phone bil…). This includes one million dollars in liability insurance, just in case something happens and it is our fault. It’s good to know that, in case of an emergency, we are covered. And, compared to every other kind of insurance out there, it’s a deal!
September 23rd, 2009 at 5:28 am
I’m a renter, but with no insurance. Our landlord actually requires that all tenants have renter’s insurance upon signing the lease, but she didn’t follow up with us, and we’ve been too lazy to even think about it. I agree, that it would be a good thing to have, but, as “struggling students” it’s not in our cards.
The most valuable thing I have is my laptop, and even if I did lose that in a fire, no amount of money would help me retrieve all those hours of research!
September 23rd, 2009 at 5:35 am
We recently purchased renters insurance after realizing just how affordable it is. We pay less than $12 a month! It’s nice knowing our stuff is covered in case something happens.
September 23rd, 2009 at 5:40 am
I remember when I was at university in New Zealand, a student was renting a house. One day the phone rang while he was cooking dinner. He answered the phone and forgot about dinner. The kitchen caught on fire and burned down the house. The owner naturally was insured and paid the landlord but then the landlord’s insurance company sued the student for negligence and the student had to pay $180,000 NZD to the insurance company.
I’m wondering if rental insurance would have protected this student.
September 23rd, 2009 at 5:40 am
I have rented my entire adult life (equals out to around 18 years worth of rent checks) and have ALWAYS carried rent insurance. It’d be foolish not to have it.
My rent insurance even includes a couple hundred dollars for food that is lost if the power ever goes out for an extended period of time (I’ve always lived in either earthquake country or hurricane country, so ‘power lost for extended periods’ is a very real threat).
I also have a rider for my computer stuff (expensive Mac plus peripherals) that I use in freelancing, since the regular plan didn’t cover that stuff if it was ever lost, plus a hurricane rider.
All of this costs a little under $300 a year, but it’s so worth it. I’m a firm believer in Murphy’s law. I know that if I was to ever drop my insurance, something bad would happen the minute I drop it. It’s just easier to budget in the insurance and know that I’m covered in the event of an emergency.
Great article. Everyone should have renter’s insurance, all the time, even if they feel they ‘don’t have much’. Just replacing a wardrobe all at once can be costly, even if you shop at Goodwill.
Also, the suggestion to send copies of your photos off to your insurer is a good idea. I need to do that ASAP.
September 23rd, 2009 at 5:45 am
My renter’s insurance paid when items were stolen from my car parked on the street outside my apartment. It seems like a good deal at $100/year.
September 23rd, 2009 at 5:49 am
We’ve had renters insurance the past three years. The current landlord doesn’t require insurance, but asked us to carry it due to a saltwater tank that we have, in case water damage ever happens. The place that we’re moving into this weekend requires us to carry a policy. Honestly, it’s not that expensive and the peace of mind is HUGE… I would feel horrible if something happened and it was our fault. I set aside $15 a month into our savings, that money is designated to pay the renters insurance at the end of the year and earns us a little extra cash in the meantime.
September 23rd, 2009 at 5:54 am
I always had renter insurance when I was a tenant. It’s not very expensive and even if like Dotty (#2) you don’t own much - it can add up.
Think about how much it would cost to replace your wardrobe for example.
September 23rd, 2009 at 5:56 am
I always had renter’s insurance when I rented, it really is very inexpensive. We don’t require our tenants to have renter’s insurance but we encourage it and, of course, disclose that insurance on our property is not for their benefit, won’t cover their possessions, etc.
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:02 am
I’ve had renter’s insurance ever since a friend’s apartment got struck by lightning. It didn’t burn, but it killed all their electronics, and left multiple holes in the ceiling that let rain in to cause loads of damage. It took about five seconds of “holy crap, what if that had been my place” before I was on my car insurance’s web site looking at options.
The inventory is the fascinating part, though. I just have an excel spreadsheet that I started out by listing all my easily named items (digital camera, TiVo, computer, coffeemaker, bed, etc), their original cost, and an estimated replacement cost. Turns out I have way more stuff, in replacement cost value, than I ever estimated on my own. I didn’t have an inventory for my first insurance policy and I undershot my eventual replacement cost by about half. Now I only update the inventory about once a year or so — I don’t move that much stuff in or out, really — but it’s pretty interesting to see all of my stuff lined up under a dollar value. And a little scary sometimes (I spent *how much* on DVDs and yarn to knit????). It does take a few hours but it really makes you think. I think it’s a pretty valuable exercise, even besides the insurance need.
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:08 am
Good reminder that it’s time I redid my inventory (and got rid of half the stuff, too). I have homeowner’s insurance now, but I had renter’s insurance part of the time I was renting (back when I was just out of college, I hadn’t even heard of it, plus I wasn’t even making enough to cover the rent without help from my parents, never mind bills). I never made a claim, but it didn’t cost much, and it seems like half the time when you watch the local news they’re reporting on some apartment complex fire.
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:09 am
For the students who think renter’s insurance isn’t worth it, my sister’s renter’s insurance covered her law school textbooks which were stolen out of her locker at school. Yes! They weren’t even in her home! That’s easily $500 worth of books that were covered for less than $100 a year.
Another thing to keep in mind, per the original post, is that sometimes you cannot have roommates added to your policy–they’ll need to get their own, and if they do, you should try to go with the same company (to keep two companies from trying to get the other to pay for out-of-your-control problems like weather related stuff). My insurance company would not insure my same-sex roommate on the same policy, but when I moved in with my boyfriend, I was able to add him. Their explanation was that they cover “domestic partnerships” but not roommate situations. Be sure to clarify with the insurance companies when you are shopping around.
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:22 am
This is something that I’ve thought about since the day I started renting after graduating high school and, 6 years later, am still yet to follow through on.
I’ve even taken inventory and gotten quotes and just never signed on the dotted line. Thanks for the reminder again. This article and the responses will be just what it takes to get me to follow through with it…within the next 3 years.
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:24 am
“My insurance company would not insure my same-sex roommate on the same policy, but when I moved in with my boyfriend, I was able to add him. Their explanation was that they cover “domestic partnerships” but not roommate situations.”
I wonder how much longer that will hold up.
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:32 am
For Gordie Rogers, at least in the policies we have in the states, yes, a renters policy would have covered the Liability claim against your friend. That’s the $1,000,000 of Liability coverage that was mentioned (unless there’s a separate sublimit for premises rented to you). Obviously it might be different in NZ.
I never carried renters insurance until I started working at an insurance agency. When I think about all the college students I know that have nice tvs or game systems, or even all the money they spend on books, and I think about how CHEAP it is - mine is about $14 per month for $20,000 of my personal property and a $1,000,000 liability limit - it’s sad that more people don’t carry it.
FYI, that Liability coverage would also cover you if you were playing golf or baseball or something and the ball accidentally hit someone’s car and damaged it. Lots of things like that that you wouldn’t necessarily think about.
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:34 am
Oh! And, even if your Auto and Renters policies aren’t with the same company, you can usually get a discount, at least on your Auto policy, for just carrying a renters policy. It will help offset at least a little bit of the (already small) cost.
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:40 am
Thanks for posting about this! I just paid my renter’s insurance this weekend, and I started thinking about whether it was good or not to be paying this bill. I even did a google search of your site (”site:getrichslowly.org renter’s insurance”). So to see this a few day’s later was just what I was looking for. Thanks again.
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:42 am
I too have renters insurance and it’s a good thing I do. Nothing has happened in any place I’ve ever lived, BUT my current rental house is not insured by the owner! He’s borderline slum-lord and recently had his insurance agent out to “renew” his policy. My husband helped fix the windows in the front of the house so that our slum-lord, oh wait landlord, could get approved. He passed, because the agent didn’t check the rest of the house.
Two weeks later we received a notice with our landlord’s name on it; it was an overdue insurance bill. He was late on payments and his insurance had lapsed. I don’t know if he ever remedied this problem, but at least my belongings are covered in case of any accident or burglary.
Bottom line, get renter’s insurance, you never know if your landlord is actually insured.
-Little House
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:44 am
Ugh.
Yeah, I don’t have renter’s insurance, and I know I really should, and I know it’s affordable, and I’ve been putting it off for literally YEARS.
The reason is the inventory, I guess. I just can’t face it. I’ve started a couple of inventories over the years but it’s just an insurmountably huge problem (”a few hours” doesn’t cover it). I don’t have receipts for most things. I don’t know if I should be trying to figure out the cost I paid for them or the replacement cost.
In the end, thinking about it always just makes me worry — and not about the stuff that renter’s insurance would help at all. I worry like crazy about my cats. (I have recurring nightmares in which something happened while no one was home, and the cats are lost or injured.) And I think about how it would feel to lose all the irreplaceable stuff — photos, documents, computer files, old love letters, etc. So I start to think that THAT’S the stuff I should focus on, scan stuff, make a remote backup, preserve it. Which of course is an even bigger project.
But honestly, if you took away all the sentimental stuff, I could afford to replace all of my belongings out of my emergency fund (and probably wouldn’t choose to replace all of it anyway, at least not all at once). Granted, most of what I own is not particularly nice or expensive (most of my furniture falls on the “got it for $20 on Craigslist” end of the scale).
I guess one way of putting it is: I compare all the replaceable stuff to what I would’ve lost if I lost everything, and I just can’t see wanting anything anymore. :/
So the short version of the story is, I know I should, I know it, but I don’t.
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:46 am
Okay, its cheap and all, but what about collecting on a policy? I have heard that if something happens and you actually need to be reimbursed its a major pain and you can’t get anything. This might be a place where self-insurance is the way to go (through an emergency fund) if you have to fight tooth and nail to get any money out of the insurance company should you actually need to file a claim. I’m just not sold because its “cheap”.
The only thing it makes sense for is the legal liability should someone get drunk at your house and fall or hurt themselves and try to sue, but in Canada, this is not an issue. In the US, I could see that. I bet a “liability only” rental insurance is even cheaper if you don’t have contents on it, just like automobile insurance.
Just my 2cents.
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:50 am
@Dotty (#2) Please tell me you regularly back up your research onto some form of exterior storage. A laptop is far too prone to breaking, having liquids accidentally spilled on it, or wandering (i.e. being stolen) to risk using it as the only storage for something as important and irreplaceable as research! From what you’ve written, it would take far less than a catastrophic fire or flood to destroy all of your hard work.
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:53 am
I have renter’s insurance too. I don’t have valuable stuff (well, there’s sentimental value), but I couldn’t afford to replace it if I “lost everything”. You don’t think you’re old clothes, old electronics, old furniture are worth much — but try going out to the store to replace them all on short notice!
@Dotty — have you thought of using an online back-up service or storage service? (Never tried one — I use the DVD/thumb drive in the safety deposit box trick). When I was in grad school, I used to email my research papers to myself as I was writing them in case my computer crashed.
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:57 am
I have renters insurance, and paid a lump sum so it was even a little cheaper. What motivated me? My parents garage/part of the house burnt down 5 or 6 years ago….watching them go through hell to get everything sorted out made me realize how LUCKY we as a family were that they had proper insurance.
September 23rd, 2009 at 7:03 am
@ Nancy(19) and Beth(20): Yes!! I have an external back up drive, and I also save things online via Google docs, Gmail, + my university’s server.
I’m working on my dissertation (year 5 - yikes! Almost done…) and burn copies of my chapters on DVD and send a copy to each of my brothers (I have two) to store.
I guess one other thing I’d hate to lose are all my books: years and years of collecting books. But again, that’s mostly sentimental; insurance wouldn’t be able to give back what I’d lost in that case.
I have to agree with Kat(17): I have a very decent emergency fund in the bank and would be able to re-purchase anything I lost, which as I look around at all my second-hand stuff, wouldn’t be much….
September 23rd, 2009 at 7:16 am
We rented for the first 5 years of our marriage, and never carried insurance. We considered it a couple of times, but never bothered.
Almost everything we owned was from Craigslist, Freecycle and thrift stores, and if our photos or home movies had been burned/stolen, there’s really no replacing those.
We do have homeowners insurance now — our mortgage requires it of course, but we would have gotten it anyways.
September 23rd, 2009 at 7:19 am
I got renter’s insurance when I moved into my current apartment - added it at the same time as I changed my car insurance. Can’t remember exactly what I pay, but it’s not much, maybe $15/month. I know it covers up to $25,000 in lost possessions - I suspect I have more than that, with my electronics and all. Never thought of doing the inventory with pictures and video to back it up. I will have to do that ASAP. Using some online storage for that wouldn’t be a bad idea either - neutral location that shows upload dates that you and your insurer (and the courts) can have access to.
September 23rd, 2009 at 7:30 am
It’s nice that you did an overview of what you should do before anything happens.
A fire broke out in my apartment complex a while back, and we were told to get renters insurance. When I called the insurance company to get it set up, they asked for my information, and just said ‘Ok. You’re all set up. Have a good day.” They never told me to document anything or even what it covered (I had to look it up myself afterward).
September 23rd, 2009 at 7:30 am
I’ve ben renting since I moved out of my parents’ house, which was about 8 years ago or so. I’ve never had renters’ insurance.
Had I been paying $10/month for the last 8 years, that would have been $960 I would have spent on premiums in exchange for nothing at all. It’s been 8 years and I’ve never had my house burn down yet. The chances that it will burn down before I buy a house in a couple years seem pretty low.
I have never lacked peace-of-mind due to fears that could be countered by having insurance.
September 23rd, 2009 at 7:31 am
I’ve always had renters’ insurance, at the advice of my parents, and have kept it up to date by adding the jewelry rider and address updates. My husband and I actually each kept our own renters’ insurance policies, through different companies, when we moved in together and kept them both after we got married.
Comments up above make me wonder whether that would make things difficult come claims time re: getting reimbursement for his, mine, and ours stuff. Perhaps that’s something for us to investigate.
As for the inventory, it’s a very slow long process (part of YMOYL step 1). I definitely have too much, I suppose! And I need to start recording the serial numbers on my spreadsheet. (Yes, the computer is backed up, and a periodic DVD to safety deposit box back-up would be a good idea too.)
September 23rd, 2009 at 7:33 am
“Okay, its cheap and all, but what about collecting on a policy? I have heard that if something happens and you actually need to be reimbursed its a major pain and you can’t get anything. This might be a place where self-insurance is the way to go (through an emergency fund) if you have to fight tooth and nail to get any money out of the insurance company should you actually need to file a claim. I’m just not sold because its “cheap”.”
My friend came home to find her apartment building on fire one night. The fire was a few doors down, but the smoke and water from fighting the fire ruined nearly everthing in her apartment. The insurance adjustor came that night and cut her a check right there for necessities–a hotel room, food, and some new clothes. They were fantastic about making sure she could get money to get back on her feet.
For the rest of her belongings, they had her go into the apartment once it was secured and take photos of the ruined items so she had documentation to back up her claims. She hadn’t inventoried anything, but they didn’t require a lot of receipts for stuff (she didn’t have a lot of electronics, though). They told her to list EVERYTHING–even stuff you don’t think about like socks, shoes, underwear, and dishes. If you add up all the stuff that you have in your place, it would cost a LOT to replace, even if you don’t have a lot of expensive items.
Also a note to Dotty–if your landlord requires renter’s insurance and you don’t carry it, you can get sued if something happens, or you can get evicted if they enforce the rule and you don’t comply. Just get it.
September 23rd, 2009 at 7:43 am
Being in the Navy for the past 23 years I have rented all but two of those years. Except for the first couple of years when my wife and I had nothing to insure, we have always carried renters insurance. As far as settling claims, that would depend on your insurance company. The only claim we have made actually surprised me that they paid. My wife had left a valuable bracelet at our apartment complex pool. When she realized it a couple hours later and went to the pool to retrieve it, the bracelet was gone. We just figured it was gone and there was nothing we could do about it. While talking to a friend about it, he suggested we talk to our insurance company. Sure enough, they considered it stolen because whoever found it knew the bracelet wasn’t theirs. All we had to do was get a police report and we had a check within two weeks. I was a little embarrased to tell the police we were reporting a robbery when my wife had just left the bracelet at the pool, but the officer said that they were used to doing these types of reports. The replacement cost of the bracelet was worth about five years worth of renters insurance premiums, so I will never go without it again.
For the college students or parents of college students - I called to update my insurance policy last month after my son moved into an apartment at an out of town college and to get him his own policy. My insurance company (USAA) actually covers him under my original policy since he is a full time student.
September 23rd, 2009 at 7:47 am
I got renter’s insurance in reaction to a friend’s fire as well. It’s about $130/year and gives me great peace of mind. For those who don’t have it, consider this calculation:
It isn’t:
PRICE OF INSURANCE > replacing any one thing
It’s:
PRICE OF INSURANCE < replacing EVERYTHING
I basically live like a student (I’m only recently out of grad school), but I know that while I don’t own much that’s worth anything, the cost of replacing all of my clothing, furniture, bedding, etc, is WELL worth the cost of insurance.
Side note: Music on your laptop is covered from loss ONLY if you can prove you bought it (either as a CD or as a legal download). Just FYI!
September 23rd, 2009 at 7:48 am
This is especially timely for me. I live right next to one of the SoCal wildfires, and I was planning to call my insurance company to ask them questions about my renter’s policy and how to inventory. Thanks for the great info!
September 23rd, 2009 at 7:52 am
Thanks for posting this! My husband and I are living in our second apartment and as we feel this is a necessity, not a luxury, we continue to pay about $14 a month for renters insurance. The small monthly payment is definitely worth the peace of mind.
I believe it would benefit every landlord to require his or her tenants to obtain renters insurance in order to move in.
September 23rd, 2009 at 7:53 am
I was in a housefire in a house I was renting with some friends while I was in law school. We did not have renter’s insurance, but as we were all still students, each of our parents’ homeowners’ insurance policies covered us.
Last year, my house was broken into and I had no problem collecting on my renter’s insurance. It probably doesn’t hurt that I work for the company that I had my renter’s (and now homeowners’) insurance with.
September 23rd, 2009 at 7:53 am
One tip that I learned about while shopping around for renters insurance — make sure they cover your items during transit or storage if you are moving out. Some companies do not cover anything, others will only cover it if the moving truck suffers damage caused by something that would be covered as in your insurance (apparently if it burns down or gets broken into, or something). I was able to find insurance that covered not only the move, but also the storage my things if I can’t move everything in at once. The way I see it, my belongings are far more likely to be damaged in transit than they are to be stolen or burnt.
I agree with the “peace of mind” sentiment. The economist in me tells me its a bad move, but the insurance also lets me sleep a little easier when I’m out of town and paranoid about whether the toaster got unplugged.
September 23rd, 2009 at 7:56 am
Great article April. If you live in an apartment complex, renters insurance is often coverage against your neighbors. You may live a careful life, but what if your neighbors like to cook on an open flame indoors, or smoke cigarettes in bed? Since you live in attached housing, you’re also attached to your neighbors–who you often know little about.
But a point on condos too. Condo’s offer coverage through the association, so a lot of condo owners don’t bother to get their own coverage. But the coverage the association has is only for the building itself. It doesn’t cover the owners contents. So you need contents insurance even thought the association has the building insured. You need to have this because condos typically have the same neighbor dependence that apartment complexes do.
September 23rd, 2009 at 7:58 am
I have never had renter’s insurance before as a Grad student, since I did not have much stuff to insure. After graduation and marriage when I have many expensive items at home and jewellery included,large size TV etc, we have one. Our renters policy is provided by the same company that provides us with our auti insurance. So this helps!!
On a hindsight, it would be interesting to have an article in the future on how do we guard our personal belongings at home(passports, jewellery etc). Since there is some vast knowledge in that area but many of them are not feasible.
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:06 am
I went through an apartment fire in December 2003 (as I affectionately call “The Great Christmas Blaze of 2003). Three days before the incident, I renewed my renter’s insurance. Call it fate. It was $16/month and I didn’t see the value, but everyone kept telling me I should keep it. Thank goodness I did, because it came in very handy.
The apt next door was the source (tried to extinguish cigarette in dried flower pot) and while nothing actually ‘burned’ in my house, we suffered from Water/Smoke damage because we shared the rafters with them and the firemen used our apartment to access next door. And do you think the guy next door had renters insurance? Of course not! And might I add that he was one of the Leasing Managers for the apartment complex that would tell future tenants the ‘importance’ of renters insurance.
While I didn’t possess a lot of ‘things’ renters helped cover the cost of all the ruined Christmas gifts (water damage) and you can’t imagine the DAMAGE that smoke causes (think mattresses, which are expensive to replace). Plus, filing the insurance claim was relatively easy and I was reimbursed within a decent amount of time.
Regarding inventory items, I hardly had any receipts on my large purchaes. But as long as I was able to get online to download the ‘purchase price’ information for that item, then the insurance agency was appeased.
For furture claims however, make sure you keep receipts for any item over $200 (I was advised).
I’m glad I had renters insurance and made sure I kept it until I finally bought my home.
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:08 am
I was very intimidated by renters insurance at first and held off for a year. I now have been researching and called about it and you get full coverage and liability for less than $100 and can save a few bucks on auto insurance. I will be getting.
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:24 am
As a renter, I probably should have renter’s insurance. Unfortunately (for me) I do not. I didn’t even give it a second thought. After hearing some of the stories in this thread and reading your blog, I should probably get on that. I would be out at least a few thousand if I lost a considerable amount of property.
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:35 am
I am looking into renter’s insurance.Just a question to all those that have unfortunately had to cash in on their policy for whatever reason: How good was the service? and what insurance company did you have? Thank you!
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:39 am
We did not have renter’s insurance back in the day. We were renting from my parents for a fraction of market value, so it was easy to blow it off. Luckily, there were no problems.
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:40 am
How I saved money on my car insurance:
When I went in to get my first car insurance, my agent, like all good agents, asked if I also had renter’s insurance. I mentioned that I did not, but that I’d been meaning to. My car insurance at that time was $90/month. The renter’s was $8/month, but if i got the renters, then I’d save 10% off my car insurance…. So, it cost me -$1 to get renter’s insurance.
Free coverage? YES PLEASE.
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:54 am
Thanks for the push in the right direction! I just went to my auto insurance company and bought a year of renter’s insurance, after 6 years of “meaning to do it”.
Now I just have to take inventory! This will be great peace of mind, for only $15/mo.
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:55 am
Yes. I got one before I even moved in! For $300 a year (Canadian), I am covered for $50,000 contents insurance (enough to cover the stuff I have and more since I’m just starting out in life) and $1,000,000 liability insurance (was a requirement from my landlord). It gives me a peace of mind. Sure, disasters aren’t necessarily likely, and even getting robbed by some random person probably isn’t likely since I live in a secured building with hundreds of tenants… but I would never go without insurance. It’s almost asking for something to happen.
And for those who think they don’t have much stuff, you can bank on the fact that to replace a computer, clothes (including work wardrobe), kitchen stuff, and BASIC furniture, you probably won’t get away with spending much less than $5,000. Things add up QUICKLY.
Addendum: I just called my insurance company since I was curious after reading all these comments about having to take inventory. When I signed up for my insurance, it wasn’t required to take an inventory, and they just confirmed over the phone that I don’t need one. They said unless I have some super expensive not normal item (like a rare piece of jewelery), they take your word for what you have - like they know people have a couch, dresser, bed, etc. They said if I had some rare item I should get it appraised and keep that document safe somewhere. So this is good to know (I don’t have anything all that valuable tho lol). But yeah, I am sure if you call around, *some* companies in the US won’t require an inventory. My insurance company is one of the bigger ones in Canada. I think I will still take some pictures and store them somewhere just in case, if something does happen and there is some dispute. Thanks for the article, April.
It’s bad enough to lose everything (or even a few valuable items) and be covered for it, but I can’t imagine losing everything AND having to either raid savings for it or not be insured at all.
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:20 am
I’ve never made a claim on my renter’s insurance (which I do have), but last year I made a full claim with flood insurance for both the building and the contents on my homeowner’s flood policy. (We now rent again because the house was a total loss–hurricane storm surge.) If you don’t have an inventory yet and aren’t sure you will REALLY get around to making one anytime soon, take pictures and store some copies off site. We didn’t have an inventory and it took us weeks to create our property claim list. Thankfully we had some photos (all receipts were lost) and the insurance paid us the maximum amount of our policy based solely on our lists reconstructed from memory with only some fairly old pictures as supporting documentation.
You may not think you have much of value, but when you start to add the cost to replace every kitchen item, every clothing item, every piece of furniture, every book, every dvd, etc, etc, the numbers add up quickly.
Make sure you are aware of exclusions as well. Here we have to have three separate policies. One for regular renters/homeowners, one for flood, one for wind. In most areas, wind is included in renters/homeowners, but I don’t know of anywhere that doesn’t exclude flood. Most renter/homeowner policies will cover water damage from inside your home (broken pipe), but not rising water from flash floods, river flooding, or storm surge.
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:24 am
What if I don’t own anything? I move/travel alot which has led me to live a life of minimalism. The most expensive thing I own is my laptop which I paid $400 for 2 years ago and my clothes. All of which could easily be replaced using my emergency fund.
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:26 am
My apartment complex requires insurance and if you do not have private insurance you can get it included in the rent for $9.95 so I added mine.
I am happy I have it because I have seen too many people lose things due to water tanks that burst….at least the insurance will help replace some of your stuff.
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:30 am
Although I never learned the hard way, I very well could have. I lived in apartments for many years, and never even thought of renter’s insurance. If I had, my first thought would have been that I couldn’t afford it. i never knew policies were so reasonable.
Great post, great advice.
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:38 am
Three years ago a friend of mine’s house burned down–they are a family with four children and were renting a large single family home. They did have renter’s insurance, and not only did it pay for all of their stuff (huge amounts of furniture, clothing for six people, kitchen appliances, electronics, etc.), it paid for interim housing for them for some interval (I don’t remember) so they could find a new place to live. The insurance company was a mixed bag to deal with. Pretty good in getting them set up in a hotel and some money for necessities initially, but then a lot of nickel and diming and combing over every bit of paperwork, making them re-do things, etc. A lot of people donated clothing and toys to them in the first couple of days so they didn’t have to spend money out of pocket trying to just to have underwear, pajamas and a few outfits to wear.
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:39 am
I had renter’s insurance for years. In 2003 when I was still renting, I accidentally set off the fire alarms and sprinkler system by breaking a smoke sensor (let’s just say there was a garment and hanger involved). The insurance company paid $9,000 for my destroyed items. I do not know if it was my insurance or the landlord’s building insurance that paid for the building’s damage. My insurance company also paid for the damage to my neighbor’s living room (all furniture ruined). I don’t know what it cost, but it looked expensive to me.
Great investment. Plus, most leases today require that the renter have the insurance.
My insurance company is USAA (I’m lucky).
For those of you that do not have renter’s insurance, just keep in mind that if your upstairs neighbor leaves his bathtub running and your stuff gets destroyed no one will pay for your stuff, especially if the lease requires that you have it.
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:44 am
This is a great reminder - I think of my renter’s insurance as another form of emergency fund: in case of home-related emergencies, my assets are covered.
For those who think the inventory sounds like a bear, here’s what my husband did: in under two hours he walked around our apartment with the video camera, filming things like the spines of all our books, the contents of drawers, etc. The valuables (computers and musical instruments) were laid out on the floor and slowly videotaped… and he just gave detail information (serial numbers, purchase price) out loud while he filmed. It was actually kind of fun.
We made 3 copies of the DVD and each of our parents has one now. Really simple. It might not be totally complete, but it’s a hell of a lot better than scratching our heads after a fire, asking, “so… what did we have?”
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:51 am
@48 (Matt), and to everyone else who says they don’t own enough to get insurance, or can cover it through your emergency fund:
Renter’s insurance is a big help EVEN if you don’t own much. It’s also liability insurance. What happens if you have a cooking fire and the smoke damages the belongings of the neighbours? Or you forget to turn a tap off and the water spilled damages the floor? Or one of your guests breaks a large window?
You are liable for the damage you (or your guests) cause through accident or negligence. This can be very expensive. Renter’s insurance would cover you.
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:10 am
I love this site, but for discussions on personal finance, I was expecting this story to go in a different direction…
> “What are the odds anything will happen?” The odds are
> not in your favor. The Bureau of Justice Statistics
> reports that renters are 50 percent more likely to be
> burglarized than homeowners.
The odds _are_ in your favor. The odds of anything “bad” happening, including being burglarized, are very low. For example: if a home has a 2-in-a-million chance of being burglarized, and an apartment has a 3-in-a-million chance … yes that’s 50% more… but to imply the odds are no longer in your favor (vs. owning a house) is twisting things.
A personal inventory is great step… even if you don’t buy renters insurance… because it lets you ask “How much of this crap could I live without if disaster strikes?”. Then estimate the time/expense to find a new place, temporary food+shelter, and to repurchase that minimized list of essential things. If that magic dollar value is something you feel you could work towards self-insuring against, then start saving (or you may have enough savings already). If not, buy renters insurance (and start saving anyways to hopefully not need the insurance in the future).
The argument that the insurance is so cheap you that should just buy it should raise some questions in your mind. Why would it be so cheap if the insurance company considered it likely that they’d have to pay a claim? Insurance companies are very good at statistics: they know the chance that you’ll have to file a claim is very small, which why they can afford to charge you so little for the coverage.
Life insurance and home insurance are different topics: I’m all for them: as the dollar values of houses and paying the living expenses of loved ones for years can reach numbers far in excess of what most people could afford to save for. But replacing the stuff that renters insurance covers, mostly things that are “nice to have” but you don’t “need”… that’s an amount more down-to-earth… essentially the big brother of the emergency fund everyone is told to save for.
I’ve beefed up my emergency fund to a level I believe could carry me through my place burning down and loss of employment for 6 months. Sure I won’t be buying a new 50″ plasma the day after they put out the flames… I understand I won’t be replacing everything I own right away… but I also understand that it’s an extremely unlikely occurance… and until it happens all that phantom renters insurance money is being set aside for vacations and retirement.
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:10 am
Just wanted to chime in… when I first got renter’s insurance, the multi-line discount saved me more than the cost of the insurance!
Additionally, a friend of mine lost $8k in electronics to theft… no renter’s insurance to cover that. Do you want to learn the lesson by reading a blog about it, or the much harder way?
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:16 am
Not saying I’m for or against renter’s insurance, but just food for thought.
If it’s such a great deal, how can companies keep offering it?
Because they take in more than they give out.
Finally, I just want to say that insurance is a gamble. You’re betting that in the long run, you spend less on insurance than you would to replace it yourself. And guess who’s capitalizing on those fears?
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:17 am
Renter’s insurance saved our BUTTS when our house was broken into. We were able to replace most of the stuff that was stolen from the payout; the deductible was only about $400, and the value of items stolen was above that. All we had to do was fill out a form listing the items stolen and their replacement cost, and include a copy of the police report. We also carry a separate personal articles policy on some of the musical instruments (not affected by the robbery, thankfully). My husband and I have carried these insurance policies ever since we moved in together. They’re through the same people who do our car insurance. And now that we’ve bought a house, our homeowner’s insurance is through the same people too.
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:18 am
@Diane B.–Exactly. Many people (including my past self) think renters insurance is only about replacing your stuff. But renters insurance also includes liability protection, which covers medical expenses for a person injured in your apartment and legal defense.
Medical expenses and legal defense would completely wipe out my EF fund, no doubt. Those two things can become astronomically expensive, which is why renters insurance is a good idea, even if you don’t think you own much.
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:20 am
I’ve got renter’s insurance. I will say though - be careful about it’s application to water damage. We had a roof leak in a storm and ruin some furniture and submitted a claim. They didn’t cover the claim because my insurance has some sort of wind damage clause. Annoying.
But between that and this post, I’m reminded to shop around before our next renewal and to see if I need to buy an additional rider for this sort of thing.
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:23 am
To Steve and Mike,
It’s true that we should question paying for insurance just like we should question anything else. My grandfather used to say “you insure that which you cannot afford to replace”.
So you insure your home and your car (mostly for liability) and (if you have dependents) your life. Your investments are mostly insured by the government. But I think you’re taking an optimistic view of what you could and could not “afford to replace”.
Your own personal items (while they likely will cost more to replace than you think) are a relatively small part of this equation. You have to insure the liability of having an apartment (someone may trip on your coffee table and break a leg), plus the possessions of others in case you burn the place down.
In my view, the practical way to save money is not in rejecting insurance, but in having a discount insurance broker, and a high deductible. If your deductible is $1,000 or $5,000 your premiums will be super-low, but you’ll still be insured for “that which you cannot afford to replace”.
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:38 am
Off topic, but I have to say how cool it was to see one of my photos show up in my RSS reader on somebody else’s feed! A good choice for this post, thanks for using it.
-dvs
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:43 am
@Dotty
Check out mozy.com or getdropbox.com. Both very easy (and likely more comprehensive than what you’ve listed you’re doing), and both with 2GB of free storage, which ought to be plenty to cover your dissertation.
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:58 am
Hi Suzanne!
> In my view, the practical way to save money is not
> in rejecting insurance, but in having a discount
> insurance broker, and a high deductible. If your
> deductible is $1,000 or $5,000 your premiums will be
> super-low, but you’ll still be insured for “that which
> you cannot afford to replace”
Absolutely! (and your grandfather was a wise man
)
Keeping your insurance costs down is a great way to save a great deal of money over time! It just pains me to see people buy insurance for all sorts of things… without putting any thought into whether or not they could afford to cover a rare cost out of their own pocket.
Given that premiums for renters insurance are among the lowest to insure absolutely anything (i.e. the “Product Protection Plan” the shop offered for my TV had an annual cost greater than a year of renters insurance, and that just covered the TV!)… I think it’s worth thinking seriously about what the costs could be, and if it’s something that could be saved for. And as rare as something like a fire may be you’re very right that it may affect other people… specifically that you may be the “other person” and protected by the savings, insurance, or court-declared liability of the other party found at fault. (I know that’s spinning the argument around, but it does work both ways)
In the end it’s about what lets you sleep at night. A personal inventory, some serious thought, and some number crunching may lead you to decide renters insurance is something you could more economically fund yourself. Another small step in getting rich slowly!
September 23rd, 2009 at 11:09 am
I haven’t seen anyone bring this up, but my apologies if I missed it.. However, I have always had renters insurance, because it would get me “multiple policy discounts” with my car insurance, and save me money.
I have homeowners now, but I remember that adding a $12/month renters insurance policy added to my plan always seemed to get me $12-20/month Multiple policy discounts!)
Why on earth would you not want to? of course, I was a single, young guy, so my car insurance was pretty darn high (even with no tickets or accidents)..
September 23rd, 2009 at 11:13 am
Some of the anti-insurance comments seem not well thought out to me. How much of an emergency fund could a grad student (like myself) with minimal craigslist furniture actually have? $10,000 tops? Let’s breakdown minimal expenses
Staying in a hotel - Let’s say you have family nearby, maybe $0, but what if you can’t get a hold of anyone? $100. If you don’t have family nearby, or can’t find someone to stay with, you will need semi-permanent housing until you get a new place if yours is completely destroyed and you must break your lease. $1000.
Now you get that new place. You need 3 months rent. For my bf and I that’s $2700 gone off the bat.
Now you need a bed. Even if you get an airbed, you will at least have to replace it with a matress on the floor at some point. We’re talking $300-1200.
Let’s move in to clothes. To survive, I’d say you’d need a pair of jeans, a few t-shirts, some socks and underthings. Buying as much as you can at thrift, maybe $20? Now you need to go to work everyday, which is going to require more clothes. At the bare minimum you could get by with $100 worth of clothes. Let’s not forget you only have maybe one pair of shoes. $20 for an other cheap pair.
You need to eat at your new apartment. Since your food is gone, $150-$300 dollars groceries. Add in another $300 for the food you had to eat while living as a transient, probably a lot of take out. You need at least one cheap pan set from Walmart to heat up food. maybe $30.
So far, we’ve spent $3300-$5370, and you only have a bed. No electronics.
Okay, you need a computer for work/school, we’ll say $400-$1000 dollars. You may need some extra programs you used replaced on your new computer, that’s $100. You probably want to sit on something other that the floor, so while you might be able to freecycle it, you could end up buying a couch for $100-300. Would you like a chair as well? please add at least $20. Table? $25. You have been sleeping on a bedding-less mattress, $50. You have been eating out of pots, need dishes, $20, silverware, $5. Coffee is a necessity? $12 dollar french press and $10 can of coffee, $3 mug.
Where are we, $3775-$6915? That’s feasible. This assuming of course you can find all these things second hand again.
But, you have yet to pay for any replacement music, books, dvds, tv, radio, small appliances, office supplies, enough clothes so you don’t have to do laundry twice a week, cleaning supplies, detergent to do said laundry, more that one set of dishes for parties, any jewelry you had, shelving or drawers upon which to put things, and anything else. Even if you make shelves from wood, don’t replace you electronics, never clean, never entertain, and vow never to wear jewelry again….
What if there is a legal issue. Maybe faulty wiring on something you owned started the fire. Maybe your neighbor is suing you because even if you didn’t start the fire, their stuff got damaged in the process of putting out your fire. Maybe repairs take 6 months, you want to break the lease and move on, but the landlord is suing you saying you have to stay. You need a lawyer, even if these claims are stupid, because you are not one.
Your emergency fund is officially gone.
Then your car gets stolen. What the heck are you supposed to do?
Yes, it’s a gamble, yes it feels like a waste of money, yes you have an emergency fund. But I thought this stuff too, until my friends apartment collapsed (yes collapsed) and she didn’t have insurance. She had savings, but couldn’t stay with her family and keep her job, because the commute was too far. She shuffled around from friend to friend, sublet to sublet, slowly trying to get her life back, scraping to get the basic necessities together. I looked around my apartment and did the math. We needed the insurance. GET THE INSURANCE!
September 23rd, 2009 at 11:17 am
I agree that renter’s insurance is a good idea, but I don’t like the apt lease requiring it. If the insurance is to protect renter’s, we’ll get it when we feel we have enough to lose. The apt company is covered against any loses to the building with its own insurance. The degree that leases now creep in with requirements and clauses is frustrating. I just renewed my lease and they added a special GARAGE addendum: you can only park a WORKING vehicle in the attached garages (oh, did I mention they started offering extra storage you can rent??????)
September 23rd, 2009 at 11:19 am
Hi back, Mike!
I could not agree more about extended warranties and product protection plans. In my grandfather’s theory, one would never insure a TV because you could do without those items or afford to replace them relatively easily.
Another reason to have renter’s insurance: it is often required by the lease. That actually can let others out of paying for your personal property if they are at fault. An example of this is: the landlord does work on the building and the construction company hits a water line, flooding your apartment. The building insurance will pay for the pipes, floor, etc. but not your stuff.
September 23rd, 2009 at 11:24 am
We’ve always had renter’s insurance and it’s past time to update the inventory. My husband and I are long-term renters and our apartment is furnished as a home. Our furniture was not inexpensive, and much of it is handmade, imported, or both. We also have large investments in media - music, movies, books - and electronics, as well as kitchen gear, sports gear, wardrobe, art, and tools. Not to mention a few special bottles of wine.
Our “emergency fund” is for one emergency: no income. Health insurance is for a health emergency. Car insurance is for a car emergency. Renter’s insurance is for an emergency affecting your possessions or your ability to live in your home. Liability coverage is a bonus.
In our case, by many measures we have too much “stuff” and if it were all to be lost in a disaster, we almost certainly would not even begin to replace everything. However, the loss *would* be a loss to our future quality of life, and for that reason insurance (at less than 10% the monthly cost of our cell/data plan) is a negligible expense.
September 23rd, 2009 at 11:35 am
My friend’s place was burglarized and they stole all her electronics. The insurance company issued her a check for the market value of the electronics, so she was able to get the new state of the art stuff without going into debt.
The kicker though with insurance companies, and something I wish would be regulated is how they up your insurance once something happens. My friend used to pay around $10 and she told me since the theft, she has been paying $15.
I had a long conversation with my agent when I lost my accident discount on my auto insurance, which raised my car insurance $50/mth. She said it is not fair that someone who has a clean record should pay the same amount as someone with a “tainted” record. It kinda defeats the purpose of having insurance in the first place if you get penalized when the very thing you are insuring against happens. That would only make sense, in my opinion, if you get some of that insurance money back for having a clean record…and it shouldn’t be a gimmick to bait people to the insurance company and use hidden fees to recover the cashback.
September 23rd, 2009 at 11:52 am
I’ve had renter’s insurance since 1994, when an apartment building in my neighborhood in Boston burned down - the stories of the tenants out on the streets with no belongings was very sobering.
Yes, in the past 15 years I’ve paid almost $2,000 for my policy, and I’ve never had a claim, but I still think it’s well worth it.
September 23rd, 2009 at 11:58 am
I don’t technically have renters insurance, since I own my condo, but what’s covered is fundamentally the same (the building itself will be rebuilt on the condo corp’s insurance, so I only need to insure contents).
For all the anti-insurance folks. Contents insurance is cheap. Really cheap. A single event will cost more than a lifetime of coverage. Of course, this means that the expected occurrence of these sorts of things is less than once per lifetime. But it sure sucks if you’re the unlucky one.
At any rate, for the $12/month that I pay, I figure that it’s worth it. I can’t stand people who “can’t afford” insurance, and then whine on the news when it bites them in the ass. If you can pay rent, I’ll bet big money I can find $12 in your monthly spending that could be redirected.
September 23rd, 2009 at 12:05 pm
I don’t have it. I find it easier to just keep a few thousand bucks around that covers the replacement of my stuff without having to document every single possession and fight the insurance company in case anything happens (that’s really the last thing I’d need). I would carry insurance if I had way more stuff than money or if my safety net only consisted of a single piece of rope.
September 23rd, 2009 at 12:08 pm
@Brian(#65) said:
“It would get me “multiple policy discounts” with my car insurance, and save me money….Why on earth would you not want to?”
Um, not everyone has a car, you know. (I guess it’s only because I live in a big city that this struck me as a strange assumption!)
I guess if you already have car insurance, that makes it easier to add it to your existing policy, though.
September 23rd, 2009 at 12:32 pm
@Kat
You may not have renter’s insurance, but if you worry about your cats, you should consider pet insurance. We’ve been paying about $25/mo for two cats for the past two years. We were just starting to doubt the worth of it when one of the cats needed major surgery this summer. About $1500. And the pet insurance paid us back about $1000! We were so relieved.
Also, when our neighbor was robbed earlier this year, we weren’t worried about our stuff. We worried about our cats! We considered putting up signs in the house that said “Take what you want, just make sure the cats don’t get out!”
Back on topic: Renter’s insurance is necessary and worth it. Get a policy today!
September 23rd, 2009 at 12:38 pm
We self-insure also, at least for the time being. Most of our possessions are thrift-store or yard-sale finds; practically worthless in actual value, but practically impossible to replace exactly. If our apartment got wiped out, there is not much that we would need to replace immediately. Our emergency fund will cover that.
As for liability, odds are that the neighbors are going to burn the place down before we do. (Even if they are all as safety-conscious as we are, which I doubt, they outnumber us by twenty to one.)
September 23rd, 2009 at 12:48 pm
@corey(#74): Thanks! I actually researched pet insurance awhile back and concluded it wasn’t really worth it (one of my cats is too old to be insured, and even for the younger one, the insurance wouldn’t cover regular annual visits and vaccinations, etc.). The things I worry about (in regards to the cats, and in life in general) are the things that money won’t fix… if there is a fire and they were trapped inside, or, as you said, if someone broke into the house and they got out and were lost. But I do have enough of an EF to cover even a largish vet bill, and since the cats are indoor-only, it’s fortunately an unlikely eventuality.
September 23rd, 2009 at 1:08 pm
Hi Jessica!
> Some of the anti-insurance comments seem not well
> thought out to me. How much of an emergency fund
> could a grad student (like myself) with minimal
> craigslist furniture actually have? $10,000 tops?
> Let’s breakdown minimal expenses
I wish more people would do the math like you did!
I don’t think anyone said don’t get renters insurance, just put some thought into if it benefits you or not. When I got out of school with no savings or emergency fund, renters insurance made excellent sense.
But for others who are well along the path to saving up their huge retirement nesteggs… their emergency funds may be large enough to covers almost all the loss cases the renters insurance protects them against. And in that case, since the chance of “something bad” happening is so low… why are they still paying the premiums? That money is better used elsewhere.
Like Suzanne said: “you insure that which you cannot afford to replace”. So if you _can_ afford it, don’t insure it!
Mike
September 23rd, 2009 at 1:14 pm
I had renters insurance that cost approximately $120 per year. I have to say I’m glad we had it. I lost my wedding band 1 week after I got married and while I didn’t have a separate rider for it as yet (had just gotten back from the honeymoon), the insurance covered the cost to replace it. Even though our stuff is in no way high end, it was cost us a fortunate to replace it all. I can’t go back to my college days of eating dinner on the floor with a table mat.
September 23rd, 2009 at 1:21 pm
@Jessica (#66): Exactly!! You do a good job of illustrating that even the basics add up. As I said in my previous post, minimum $5K. And that does NOT include much. You also low ball a lot of things such as all casual clothes for $20. I think that’s a stretch even for one outfit at a thrift store. And call me a snob, but I never have shopped at thrift stores, and if my house burns down I am not about to start. That’s just even more depressing!
For the low cost of insurance, I truly think it’s stupid not to get it. For what I pay I get $50K contents insurance as well as $1,000,000 liability insurance (for around $300 Cdn a year) - that is peanuts. Even if I had a $1,050,000 emergency fund (say I get sued AND lose my stuff), why the heck would I gamble that I have to use it some day? It just doesn’t add up. No, the $300 could not be used better elsewhere. That’s ridiculous.
September 23rd, 2009 at 1:23 pm
Another nice article April! I was living in a nice rental in 2000. After a night of Superbowl fun at my brothers we went home to sleep it off only to be awoken by the smoke alarm going off at 6am. Grumbling about the cranky smoke detector I stumbled out to the kitchen to see what the deal was only to discover that a whole section of the living room was ablaze and smoke was pouring from the heating vents!!!
Quickly I ran back in the bedroom, woke up my sweetie, threw on our clothes, grabbed the cat and ran out. In those few moments the entire apartment was filled with smoke. We made it out safely and then ran around and woke up all the other tenants. NOTE: take care of your smoke detectors, the fire chief said we would have died in our sleep if it hadn’t woken us up.
We then watched the sun rise as the apartment burned completely to the ground. We lost everything, absolutely everything except the clothes on our back and the kitty.
As I watched everything I owned go up in flames I borrowed a neighbors cell phone and called my Allstate agent that wrote my renter’s policy. I explained what was happening and she tried to explain that they can often clean things to get rid of smoke and water damage. I laughed and told her she was welcome to come out and see what they could do but in my humble estimation it was a total loss.
To the agent’s credit she showed up before the firemen even left and promptly wrote me out a $5,000 check so I could get started buying some clothes and toiletries and get a place to stay in the short term.
Allstate was great, I had to make a list of everything I had in the apartment. If you’ve never done this PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE make the list before a disaster happens. It was so hard to remember every little thing you have in your home. I’m sure we missed dozens of things. We worked on that list for 2 weeks, often waking up in the middle of the night to remember something we had forgotten.
We didn’t have any receipts either, all of what we did have went up in flames. Again, Allstate was very understanding and allowed us to go to stores or online and get quotes on replacement items.
Once the list was all put together we submitted it and had a check for the entire amount in just a couple of days. It is VERY, VERY IMPORTANT to buy FULL REPLACEMENT coverage!!! If we didn’t have that I’m sure the prorating of the cost of the belongings would have been a nightmare. As it was they took our valuations from the sources we quoted for replacements and didn’t argue at all.
At the time the policy ran me about $75/yr - you can bet it was worth every dime!!! If you don’t have it, get it!!!!!!
PS - Buy at least 50% more insurance than you think you need. We had a substantial policy and even so we ended up being about $10k short from our estimate to replace everything. I was shocked as I thought I was overinsured. For what little it costs to it is silly to skimp.
September 23rd, 2009 at 1:35 pm
To Mike (Comment 78–since I can’t figure out the quote function).
Someone further along in savings with a large EF, may be able to replace their belongings more easily, but they would probably be MORE in need of the liability coverage portion of renter’s insurance, since they would have assets to go after. It may be possible to get the liability portion separated from the contents coverage, but then you’d probably be down to saving $5 a month, since renter’s insurance including both is only about $10/month.
My perspective is somewhat skewed because I have lost everything in a natural disaster and live where there is a small but real risk of it happening again (Gulf Coast). I will NEVER be less than fully insured whether I own or buy. Homeowners or rental, flood, and if necessary windstorm or other local policies.
September 23rd, 2009 at 1:54 pm
As some commenters have noted, the coverage for your items even outside of your home is a huge plus for renter’s insurance! I was mugged and had my laptop, digital camera, phone, and wallet taken, and my renter’s insurance covered every single item that was stolen. Worth every penny.
September 23rd, 2009 at 2:37 pm
@ebyt (#80) said: “And call me a snob, but I never have shopped at thrift stores, and if my house burns down I am not about to start. That’s just even more depressing!”
OK, I know it’s off topic, but I just gotta jump in with a defense of thrift stores here.
Thrift stores are nothing short of AWESOME. It’s where most of my wardrobe comes from, and I *constantly* get compliments on my style. I can’t deal with shopping at non-thrift stores (even though I can afford to), because the prices seem ludicrously high and the selection is awful — racks and racks of the same stuff, and what everyone else is wearing, to boot.
I know what the stereotype of thrift stores is like, but I think if you gave them a chance, you’d be pleasantly surprised.
September 23rd, 2009 at 2:46 pm
My daughter owned a house for a while and rented rooms to students. She urged them all to get renter’s insurance. None of them did. Then came the house fire, caused by a short circuit — and after a few days in Red Cross shelters her tenants were on their own because it took weeks to make the place habitable again.
Walk around your apartment and imagine how much it would take to replace bed, sheets, comforter, pillows, towels, shoes, dresser, table, chair and clothes (including a winter coat, hat, gloves and boots if you live in a cold area). That’s not even discussing things like TV, phone, computer, printer, MP3 player or any other extras you own.
As a resident manager, I’ve seen two incidents in which renter’s insurance might have been needed. In one case, an ice dam on the roof (unusual for a Seattle winter) caused leaking into apartments. In another, a resident’s toilet backed up and ran for about three hours, leaking into the first-floor apartments and the basement laundry room.
Neither situation is something you could reasonably anticipate. But neither is being hit by an uninsured driver, or being diagnosed with a rare illness — both of which happened to close family members. That’s why we carry auto and health insurance. And that’s why you should have renter’s insurance: To cover that which comes out of nowhere, or from the apartment upstairs.
I wrote about this for the MSN Smart Spending blog: http://blogs.moneycentral.msn.com/smartspending/archive/2008/04/25/the-flood-upstairs-why-you-need-renters-insurance.aspx
September 23rd, 2009 at 2:47 pm
I’m really surprised by the number of folks saying they have inexpensive things that they bought cheap or were given to them so why bother with insurance.
Folks, you can’t imagine how much you are missing the point. Think about how long it took you to find those “deals”. If you have nothing, no clothes, no shoes, no coats, no chair to sit on, no bed to sleep in, no pans to cook your food, no utensils to eat with you have sooooooo much that you need to replace that you need immediately! You don’t have time to find that great deal on everything like you did when you were just adding it to your already existing collection of stuff. You need to get the basics right away - I had to go buy a suit for work the next day. No way I could wait for that perfect suit sale, I needed one now. Oh yeah, I needed a pair of dress shoes to wear with the suit, and a tie, and, and, and… it adds up fast!!
Take a look at Jessica’s post (@66) again, and just imagine you have nothing. You can chew through money very quickly and its very unlikely you’ll get those craiglists deals for that initial stuff! AND, if you have the right insurance you can afford to buy a NEW couch, a NEW table, NEW clothes, etc., etc.
Also, I really like what one commenter said about thinking that the renter’s policy is like another form of your emergency fund. I’m so glad I had it for my loss, I can’t imagine how disheartening it would have been to have to start over again from ground zero WHILE I was chewing up my emergency fund. It’s cheap, GET IT!
September 23rd, 2009 at 3:14 pm
At times it is situation like this that open our eyes to the reality of life. We foregone things that we said are not necessary but when it happen to us or a close one it allow us to see the importance of it. I am glad that you take the time out to write this article. I don’t think that this type of Insurance is in my country but I will investigate it.
September 23rd, 2009 at 3:26 pm
Hi all,
I think this will be my last post here, because, although I see the value in a renters policy, I can’t believe nobody is suggesting alternatives, at least as something to strive for. This is a personal finance site, and we’re talking about paying for a service you will most likely never need. A service that even if you make a claim… on average you pay more in premiums than you’ll take out (i.e. claim a $1000 laptop theft, but pay $5000 in premiums over the life of your policy).
> It’s cheap, GET IT!
So are lottery tickets. And they pay out on occasion too. Premiums are inexpensive because it’s very unlikely the insurance company will ever have to give that money back to you, so they can afford to make it cheap. When you’re in the business of asking people for money that you’ll probably never return… people that you will never provide any value to… you pretty much have to compete on price
We’re hearing from all the “a bad thing happened to me, I’m glad I had insurance” people. I really feel bad for them when I hear that, but for every one of those cases, imagine thousands of “not unlucky” people who pay premiums their entire life, and either claim nothing, or less than they paid in.
Knowing those stats, is there no value in discussing how much an emergency fund should be to take care the majority of the cases covered by renters insurance? Because most of the claims aren’t “my building burnt to ash”… they’re “somebody stole $500 in BluRays”, or “$10000 in home theater equipment got water damaged”. I agree that $5000 is absurdly low: if at all possible, as a long-term savings goal, I think you should aim to 5x or 10x that amount.
Compared to the disasters covered by home, auto, or medical/life insurance… renters insurance is low-hanging fruit. I think renters insurance is something a regular person can aspire to get rid of, just by having more money set aside. It’s something I’m working towards. Does having more than $5k in “oh crap” money stashed away seem so mind-boggling that nobody else is trying to do it?
Is it assumed that no renter would have saved enough to avoid renters insurance, without having cashed out those savings on a house?
Regards,
Mike
September 23rd, 2009 at 3:32 pm
The reason I suspect landlords require renters insurance is liability. If you are at fault for damage, you can be sued, but if you are broke with no insurance there is no recourse for them. It might help keep their own insurance rates down if you have your own liability coverage.
September 23rd, 2009 at 4:19 pm
Thanks for the post. Like with anything else–credit card theft, auto theft, identity theft–you don’t think you need protection until it’s too late. Just a little precaution can go a long way.
September 23rd, 2009 at 4:41 pm
@ Mike #88: I think your last question pretty much answered itself. Most people don’t pay renter’s insurance their entire life. For many people like me, renting a place is a stepping stone between living like a student (or living with one’s parents) and being able to buy a home.
$25,000 - $50,000 is a lofty goal, but I doubt people could save it up quickly enough to make a difference. Besides, the whole idea of an emergency fund is money that you can access it quickly if needed — which means it’s often going in a savings account or cashable investment that doesn’t earn a whole lot. If I had $50,000, you can bet a fair chunk of that would go into something that would yield more than the $10 a month I’d be saving.
@ Donna: it’s possible your daughter’s tenants couldn’t get insurance. When I rented a room as a grad student, I couldn’t get insurance because I wasn’t married to or related to the person from whom I was renting. In the event of a disaster, there’s no way to prove conclusively who owned what, and there are so many disputes that most companies won’t cover people renting rooms. My agent told me I’d have to be covered through the owner. (I don’t know if this is also the case in the U.S.)
September 23rd, 2009 at 5:26 pm
@Mike
You’re arguing probability as a reason not to get insurance, but the real reason you get it is RISK. Risk and probability are NOT the same thing.
Risk = consequence x probability. Example:
What is the probability that your house will burn down? Very low.
But what is the consequence of losing everything in your home in that fire? For many - in fact MOST - people this is an unmitigated financial disaster.
When you combine the probability and consequence of an event, then you get the RISK of that happening.
You don’t take action to mitigate risk that has a low probability and low consequence, but you do mitigate (i.e. insure against) an event that has a low probability and high consequence. The “It will never happen to me, but when I hear about it on the news I thank God it wasn’t me” events.
Each person needs to assess their own level of consequence before deciding not to get insurance. It’s obvious it’s a low probability.
Plenty of people look around their house and say “Oh, I don’t have much expensive stuff, maybe just my TV and computer, so I don’t need it.” What they really should be doing is looking down at the clothes they have on and imagining that is all they own now. Maybe these clothes are smoked damaged. Now, what you going to sleep on? What sheets will go on your bed? Which pair of jeans will you wear to work tomorrow? How are you going to cook and eat your breakfast, lunch and dinner. What are your children going to sleep in tonight?
Maybe you have a big enough emergency fund to replace every sock, sheet, bowl, spoon and t-shirt you need (need, not want) to get by in the most basic way after a house fire, flood or something else. Maybe you’re happy taking a year or more to fully replace everything you want, once you’ve got the basics.
Most people do not and the alternative of paying $15 a month and getting having what they need in an emergency situation covered (instead of having a large emergency fund for this) plus being all be to replace their “life” is highly appealing.
I don’t know why you’re so angry that people are suggesting spending a few dollars a month to protect against risk of having to replace all the belongings they need is bad personal finance.
September 23rd, 2009 at 5:39 pm
$10 a month is spendy! We pay $14 a YEAR for our renters insurance - through State Farm along with our auto policies.
September 23rd, 2009 at 7:11 pm
Thanks so much April for the really useful post. I’ve had renter’s insurance for several years but have been putting off the dreaded inventory. This post has definitely motivated me to tackle that project.
One thing I read is that if your home/apartment is burglarized, sometimes the thieves will wait until the stuff has been replaced and then steal your new stuff. So it’s important to add another layer of security if your place has been broken into. I don’t know if anyone has experienced that, but it would be good to know.
September 23rd, 2009 at 7:21 pm
I’ve been a renter for years, since I moved out of my parents house and have had tenant insurance constantly. While I agree “it may never happen to me”, we all know it happens to someone, and it may eventually be you! Look in your bedroom and figure out how much it would cost you to replace everything, floor to ceiling, wall to wall…bed, mattress, box spring, sheets, comforter/duvet, pillows, blankets, lamps, alarm clocks, bedside tables, dressers, clothing in those dressers (winter/summer/in between seasons!), everything hanging in your closet including shoes (running shoes alone are usually $100 pair), boots, winter coats, spring jackets, scarves, hats, gloves, mittens, suits, jeans, sweaters, your empty suitcase, all the jewellery in your jewellery box (those diamond earrings you received for your 40th birthday from some very generous friends?)…imagine all of it being gone, and multiply that by your office, kitchen, living room, dining room, storage area - everything wiped out, AND you have no place to live. My emergency account is nowhere near large enough to replace everything I own (granted, some days I think I have too much stuff but that’s another story for another day!)…and that’s why I don’t begrudge my $18.81 per month in tenant’s insurance that covers me for $40,000 worth of replacement value property and $1 million liablility. I’d have to pay tenant’s insurance for over 130 years to have paid $40,000…and if I live that long well maybe I should have bought a lottery ticket too cause the odds are about the same!
September 23rd, 2009 at 7:33 pm
I have not read all the comments, but Dotty’s comment about being a student and “not in the cards” got my attention. I live in a university town and work in local government assisting tenants and landlords w/all kinds of issues. PLEASE find a way to pay for renter’s insurance! Just like the article, we recently had an 8 plex fire where the landlord was not at fault. First people who came to me were students who lost textbooks, computers, CD’s, DVD’s, and everything else. No insurance, and school starts next Monday. In short, school isn’t going to happen for at least one of them, maybe both (parents may be able to help.) And now they need to find another place to rent w/little money for deposits while trying to buy clothes (beyond the $50 from Red Cross.)
So PLEASE, find a way!
September 23rd, 2009 at 7:41 pm
No, April, I have no reason not to have renters insurance, and I hang my head in shame and and appointment is being made as we speak. Good post.
September 23rd, 2009 at 7:56 pm
Outside of general liability insurance, renter’s insurance is probably the insurance which gives you the most bang for your buck… there’s no reason not to have renter’s insurance
September 23rd, 2009 at 7:58 pm
Never needed it, always have it. Get it along with your auto insurance and you will usually end up with a pretty good deal. And since paying the auto insurance is mandatory, you never miss the payment.
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:07 pm
it’s only worthwhile when you need it. that’s the case with all insurance. i view it this way: i’m more worried about the idiots around me burning down the place and destroying my stuff, more than me destroying my stuff. this is the reason why i have insurance…because i can’t control what other people do.