This post is from GRS staff writer April Dykman.
I haven’t tracked our expenses since June.
Not to appear completely incompetent, I do check our accounts on a regular basis to verify the charges and withdrawals. But I can’t tell you how much we spent on groceries in August or how much we spent on fuel in October without printing out some statements and manually doing the math.
For a long time, I dutifully downloaded our statements at the end of each month and uploaded them into Quicken on my desktop (I have an old version of Quicken). I’d go through each expense, verifying its category. The process took an hour or so, mainly because I’d have to go online to look up check payees, but I did it without fail.
Then I fell behind a month. And one month turned into two. The more I fell behind, the more I dreaded updating our accounts since I knew my procrastination meant the process would take much longer. How could I remember in October why we withdrew $40 from an ATM in August?
This month, my husband enrolled at a trade school. His schedule will change after starting school, and that will translate to a change in his salary. We’re trying to figure out our best option. The first thing we needed to look at was our budget. But without some recent figures, we had no idea what we’ve been spending in each category.
Budgeting FAIL.
After getting those numbers the really-hard-and-no-fun way (manually), I started to think about joining Mint.
Why I didn’t join before
I held out for two reasons. One was security concerns. But in the comments of Get Rich Slowly’s early review of Mint, Founder and CEO Aaron Patzer wrote: “You’re safer on Mint than with online banking. Mint has a read-only connection to your bank; there’s no money transfer in Mint.”
He also pointed out the physical security, proactive account activity alerts, and that Mint uses Yodlee on the back-end. (Yodlee has been in operation for 10 years without a major security breach.)
I was still nervous about typing in my passwords, but after reading through the security precautions on the Mint website, I decided to try it. Obviously the old method of downloading statements was not working for me, and it would be silly to pretend that was going to change.
The other reason I resisted joining Mint is that I had tried Yodlee for a few months, and the system had so many bugs it was unusable:
- For example, I had a category set up called “personal.” I used the category for items like toothpaste, toilet paper, etc. Shortly after setting up my accounts and categorizing months of transactions, Yodlee reported that I had spent $425 in the personal category. Normally, it’s under $25. When I clicked on the category to view the transactions, the system would time out. I logged into my bank accounts to verify that the $425 was incorrect (it was). No matter what I tried, the $425 wouldn’t go away, and the system would not list the individual transactions.
- Second, Yodlee had it in for my ING Direct accounts. It quit pulling account information one day, showing an error. I tried many times to get Yodlee to connect with ING Direct, even deleting the account and adding it back, but it was a no-go. I contacted customer service about these issues, but didn’t receive any actual help fixing the problems.
With Yodlee misreporting my transactions and rejecting my ING Direct accounts, it was no longer a feasible option for tracking my expenses.
Why I’m giving Mint a chance
Despite my experience with Yodlee, I’m willing to give Mint a chance (and my fingers are crossed that the bugs have been fixed) because some of Mint’s features might help me avoid what kept me from dutifully tracking my expenses, such as:
- It’s online. I can log onto Mint during my lunch break and modify transactions, if needed. Before, I’d have to do this at home, usually on the weekend, which meant I’d forget about it or avoid it.
- It’s simple. When I open Mint, the accounts are listed down the left-hand side and the budget is on the right. The budget is a bar graph showing how much I’ve spent in each category for the month and how much was allotted for that category. That’s really all I want from my personal finance software. The detailed reports in Quicken were fun, but I didn’t use them. All I want to know is how much I’ve spent in each budget category.
- It has alerts. These were annoying until I took the time to tell Mint which alerts I wanted, but they can be useful. You can set up alerts for the low balances, bill reminders, credit available, unusual spending, over budget, interest rate changes, trade commission charges, bank fees, large deposits, and large purchases.
So far, I like Mint. The budget planning is exactly what I wanted. There are still some issues with my ING Direct accounts, though. When I log in, I get an error and have to enter the answers to two security questions. Inconvenient, yes, but after a few minutes my accounts do actually update, so I can deal with that.
For now, it seems like a good solution.
Do any of you Mint users experience these issues? And what kind of experiences have you had with other online personal finance software?
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Guys, Mint no longer uses Yodlee (or, if it still does, it won’t for long) — Mint was purchased by Intuit (ie, Quicken), and will use Intuit’s backend:
http://www.walletpop.com/blog/2009/11/12/intuit-exec-explains-what-quicken-users-can-expect-from-mint-com/
“Another big change is that Mint will no longer be powered by Yodlee’s aggregation platform that supports about 12,500 financial institutions, but instead by Intuit’s own platform that supports 14,000 institutions.”
Not saying it’s a positive or negative, but touting Yodlee to defend Mint no longer applies.
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I have never used online budgeting software (although I am strongly tempted to); like you, however, I’d be very hesitant to use anything that pulls info from my bank account (in fact, I’m not even sure the feature would work with a Swiss bank).
With that said, I generally like using Web 2.0 applications, so I’ve been thinking of looking up an online expense tracking system that I’d update manually. Provided that I don’t fall into the same trap as you (i.e., not updating the database for a month), I reckon I should be fine.
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I’ve been using Yodlee for a couple of years and have been on Mint about a year. The things I like about Mint over Yodlee are the interface and the separation of brokerage type account transactions from household transactions. However, in the things that really matter like dependable updates, tracking rewards, and being able to access my primary credit card, Mint is decidedly worse than Yodlee. Further the customer service at Mint has been nothing short of abyssmal. Perhaps with the purchase by Intuit, Mint can afford some CSR capable of fixing the issues. Until that time, I’m sticking with Yodlee.
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I’ve been using Mint for 6 months now to track both mine and my wife’s accounts and credit cards. It does this just fine and I am happy with it. I would like a couple more features added…
1) Track my credit rating
2) Track my Frequent Flyer Miles
3) Allow me to create budget simulations for long term saving goals.
4) Allow me to break down my paycheck so I know how much I spend on healthcare, employee stock plan, taxes etc. (Gross vs net)
I tried Mvelopes and it was good but why pay 100+ a year?
I tried BofA’s portfolio manager and it’s alright.
All in all Mint is great for what I need it for.
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I don’t have any answers, but appreciate the post as I’m still trying to figure out what to do with 5+ years of data from an old version of MS Money that I’d like to transfer to a new program that works on our new Mac. Until I figure that out, I can’t get rid of our 2002 Dell
I think that the future of these applications is that they’re definitely going to be moving online to a “software as a service” mode, but I’m not sure if now’s the time to make that jump from a desktop to an online version.
One thing that I use Money heavily for is cash flow projections… does anyone know if any of the s/w mentioned manage that especially well?
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I guess I’m chiming in rather late, but I’ve had a lot of success with Mint over the past 6 months. While I thought I had been pretty vigilant in checking my monthly statements, Mint’s analysis tools identified several “mystery” items. One of them ended up being an illegitimate charge, and I was able to easily have it removed. For me, the $30 was well worth the trouble of keeping my accounts synced with Mint.
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I used Mint for over a year, then my credit union decided to block Mint, but not Quicken. But Quicken doesn’t support my IRA account . Early next year I’m switching credit unions to take advantage of rewards checking account (4.0% interest). By early next year, my employer will offer direct deposit (finally!) and it’ll all be good, except for the IRA account.
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I am based in the UK and have wanted to try Mint for a while. I was worried about the security of these sites before, but as you stated “Mint has a read-only connection to your bank; there’s no money transfer in Mint”.
I have tried Kublax in the UK but did not find it user friendly.
I have now signed up to a new company called Money Dashboard. They are new to the UK market but appear to be the UK equivilant of Mint in the US.
They also use Yodlee, so I am happy with the overall security.
Thay are in Beta at the moment but they are getting a lot of good press already.
If you are UK based and want to manage your money I would highly recommend signing up at http://www.moneydashboard.com
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I have another manual tool to suggest called DebtSpark (http://www.debtspark.com). A few people have mentioned that Mint is a good starting off point, but I think the system is too complex for a budgetary beginner.
This site gives you a quick and easy snapshot of your financial picture (you enter the basics: income, expenses and debt, which you can track over time).
It seems like a lot of the sites out there are doing more and more (impressive!) but simpler can be better for basic financial assessment.
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I love mint. It is a great first step for any person that thinks they are not organized enough to budget properly. It makes it fun to save.
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I have friends who keep telling me to sign up for mint…and I just can’t do it. I use Quicken and when I didn’t have Quicken, I downloaded from my bank to a spreadsheet and categorized it that way. Better for my piece of mind.
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