Just Saying “No” to Credit Cards
Published on - February 8th, 2010 (Modified on - February 10th, 2010) (by J.D. Roth) For nearly a decade, I lived without a personal credit card. In 1998, I destroyed all my cards and canceled my accounts in a last-ditch effort to curb my compulsive spending. It worked (sort of), and it wasn’t until 2007 that I finally felt like I was responsible enough to use credit wisely without going into debt. (And so far, it’s been smooth sailing.)
What was it like without credit? Surprisingly easy, actually. Though a lot of folks will tell you that it’s impossible to rent cars or get a hotel room without a credit card, that’s just not so. A debit card lets you do all of these things, too. (Though, to be fair, companies will often put “holds” of several hundred dollars on a debit card when you rent cars or stay in hotels.)
To be honest, I didn’t miss having a credit card when I was living without one. I never encountered a situation where a credit card was required. Not once.
Writing in this morning’s USA Today, Sandra Block says that more and more consumers are saying “no” to credit cards:
In a country where the average consumer owns five credit cards, [folks without credit cards] may seem somewhat quaint, like an Amish farmer who drives a horse-drawn buggy. But proponents of a no-credit-card lifestyle say there’s nothing old-fashioned about their choices. And they’re convinced that their numbers will grow as consumers become increasingly disenchanted with credit card industry practices.
The author points out that credit card usage is slowing rapidly. National credit card debt fell by nearly 20% in November; new credit card accounts are down almost 50% from a year ago; and even folks who do use credit (73% of Americans, according to the Federal Reserve) are using credit less often. (IndexCreditCards.com, a credit card comparison website, also released a report on how average credit card debt has dropped to $3,752 from $4,013 in their last report from July 2009.)
Block’s article profiles several Americans who have decided to declare: “No credit needed!” Among them:
- Emily Maddox (24 years old), who has never had a credit card and has no plans to get one. They make her nervous.
- Dann Zinke (22), who is saving for college. He thinks credit cards are a hassle.
- Our very own GRS staff writer, Adam Baker (25), who opts to live without credit cards because it’s easier to track spending and helps him live a simpler lifestyle.
- Luis Rosas-Guyon (37), who finds that since he gave up credit cards ten yeas ago, his life is less stressful.
- Tim McFarlin (34), who ditched credit cards because he thinks the industry’s practices are unfair to consumers.
There are tons of different reasons to live without credit cards. (For my book, I interviewed three different folks who live by the “no credit needed” motto, and each had a different motivation.) The policy has some drawbacks — credit cards do offer consumer protection and other benefits, and they help you build your credit score — but I know from first-hand experience that living without them is a perfectly valid choice. It’s not only possible, but can be profitable as well.
How many of you live without credit or have done so in the past? I know from past conversations that there are some die-hard credit-card users around here (and these are folks who use them wisely, not irresponsibly), and there are also some die-hard “no credit needed” folks. I think both camps have merit, and the important thing, as always, is to do what works for you.
[USA Today: More consumers just say no to credit cards]
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I’m 26 and live at home with my parents. I do not have a credit card. Plenty of folks have told me that I will need one to build credit when I want to rent an apartment and buy a car or house. I am probably a mix of all of the above reasons. As a full-time student who needs to save money, I don’t see what the point is, it’s a hassle to make sure bills are paid, I don’t like what the finance world is doing to the little people, I don’t want to go crazy with credit spending, and I haven’t needed one yet. Also, I enjoy that this post is sitting next to 5 advertisements for credit cards. =D
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My only concern with not having a credit card is that it is possibly the easiest access to money in an emergency. With my emergency fund locked up at ING the transfer to my regular checking account is 3 days, and sometmes that is too long to wait. I could try and play the float with my checking account but that is something that I do not want to chance.
About 2 years ago the furnace blew up in the middle of winter. I could have stayed in a hotel for a couple of days and let the money transfer back in to pay for a new system, but it was easier to just put the furnace and install charges on my credit card then pay the credit card off once the money arrived.
I will not be giving up my credit card anytime soon for reasons just like that, peace of mind.
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@Jay: I think that you should probably move the emergency fund to a more accessible account. The point of an “emergency” fund is to be readily available, not to generate interest.
Regarding the “credit building” reason to have a credit card, I actually advocate to paying even a house or a car in cash, otherwise you are just giving away your money in interests (thats my personal opinion).
Nice post and very very nice blog JD, I started my financial journey thanks to Dave Ramsey’s book a couple of months ago and I have to say its nice to find many people that are doing the same as me.
Luis Q – Guatemala
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@nomuskles (#1)
Yeah, I knew even when I was writing this that the credit card ads would “auto-magically” be tagged to this post. Haha. Gotta love the irony.
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I fought against credit cards and lost due to my lack of discipline, but now I have almost conquered my credit card debt. I personally know I cannot handle credit cards responsibly, even though I have become a lot more responsible with my finances in general. That’s how I know I need to get rid of the cards. I like having simple finances, and credit cards only complicate things.
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Its interesting – and probably really really smart – that people are using credit cards less now than in the past couple years on average, because I actually use my card more now that ever before. I always pay off the balance every month and charge almost everything specifically so I can build up rewards points. My partner and I are living on a student loan for the academic year, and anything that makes us a bit of extra cash is good in my book.
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I believe it’s all about control and one’s ability identifying what’s required and what’s not! Right now I have 4 credit cards but I just use one of them (rewards
) But yes if one had debt and really needs to control, living w/o cards sounds like a good idea.
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I use credit cards. I use em like cash with the added benefit of protection though.
I make small buys like I would with cash. Gas, without needing to walk inside.
Grocery without needing to bring home .63 cents in change.
And also I use the credit card for some dinners out.
Just cause I’m given a $10,000 credit limit on a card though doesn’t mean I run to Best Buy and buy the best TV under 10 grand.
I still buy the same $200 tv that I would buy and pay off in full with cash.
Why do I use a credit card than?
Well most people who pay cash are paying the same premium that credit card holders are asked to pay for things.
When you’re at best buy a mouse is $25 before tax regardless how you pay but the cash folks are propping up the credit card folks cause you know merchants tack on the small % fees visa/mc charges them for the transaction.
Why pay cash and still have to front that transaction fee, right?
Second I got a credit card with a decent interest rate, not that it ever matters when I pay in full and make 2 or 3 payments within each pay period to knock that down to zero.
Also incase I had a broke down car, and don’t have $400 in my wallet in cash, how am I suppose to drive to the bank to get that money for the mechanic to work on my car when my car doesn’t run?
Lastly, I get my 1% cashback so $1 per $100 spent. That’s that visa transaction fee there. Benefits the responsible card user while punishes the irresponsible card users.
There is ultimately a decipline between just being responsible and irresponsible financially.
It has nothing to do with the payment method chosen. I mean I could be the same person to throw $10,000 in cash on junk as I do with a $10,000 credit limit but I don’t. Suffice it to say $10,000 cash on junk puts you at $0, while $10,000 charge puts you ay -$10,000
Its all about personal financial responsibility and getting what you can afford. Whose to say you can’t own things if you worked for them right?
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I think as long as you’re paying off the credit card monthly, there’s no reason not to take advantage of no annual fee, cash back cards. I know JD’s done a few articles around cash back accounts.
I personally use blue cash from AMEX and it’s great for those who spend more than $6500/year. You can also set up certain monthly bills to be paid for by your card. You’ve already budgeted for that expense, why not earn cash back on it?
For those who track expenses online or with Quicken, it’s also easy to tag purchases so they go into the right basket. This is much easier to remember where you spend a few dollars than tracking a piece of paper that says “I spent $x.xx at XYZ store”
My 2 cents!
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I would never live without a credit card for a couple of reasons. One, you can’t rent a car without one. I like to travel, and I can’t imagine being encumbered by an inability to rent a car. Two, I make occasional purchases online. It is much riskier to use a debit card or PayPal account tied to a checking account than to use a credit card (J.D., I recall you learned this the hard way with your recent eBay purchase). With a debit card or PayPal tied to checking, it’s harder to get your money back if there’s a problem–the seller already has your cash. If you use a credit card, you’ve got a second line of defense. You can always dispute the charge and have it taken off your bill.
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I can certainly understand people not getting credit cards if they cannot trust themselves to not buy products that would put them into debt. However, I don’t know if it’s my cheap Scottish blood or that my first CC was an AmEx I got in college through my Mom that I had to pay off every month, but I’ve never considered them a form of “credit.” I’ve never purchased anything using one that I wouldn’t have bought using cash or check, or thought that the bank was loaning me money, interest free if I paid off on time.
That said, for my family and me, CC’s have many advantages:
- maintain credit rating;
- rewards;
- allows us to keep our money in a money market that earns significantly higher interest than a checking account. If necessary, we transfer money from the money market to checking to pay the CC each month, but we do that just before paying;
- autopayment – my CC balance at the last statement is automatically paid off the day before it’s due, so there is no “hassle” or opportunity to forget (and be socked with charges and interest) to pay off the CC bill;
- avoid carrying cash – a robber gets my ID’s, CC’s, library card and $10-40.
- convenience: I don’t need to worry about making sure to visit an ATM or that my checking account can cover any check I may need to write in an emergency, e.g., car repairs on vacation.
- worst case scenario: there may be a time when I need to spend a lot quickly, and I may not have the time to take care of it before I need to make the purchase. For example, my in-laws live across the country, and when one of them dies, we’re going to have to be flying back in a day or two. In that time, I’m not going to want to figure out how much I need to transfer into checking to pay for the tickets for my family. Likewise, if I somehow had a HUGE expense that I would need to sell some securities for, a CC gives me at least three weeks to figure it out.
I know that I pay a financial price for these advantages – items cost more because retailers need to cover the percentage that they must pay the CC company. However, that’s a price that everyone pays whether they use CC’s or not (other than at CostCo, or stores that may have a cash price and another price for CC). I also know that everyone (it’s shouldn’t be everyone, but I always assume that it is) can see my entire spending history. I accept this in return for the benefits I get. This is why I would never want to see cash disappear and electronic payments become required – I think everyone should have the right to shield their purchase history if desired.
Again, if you can’t control your spending, don’t get one. But if you can, having CC’s has many advantages.
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I work as a financial aid advisor and counsel students on a daily basis about the details of funding education and preparing for a stable financial life afterwards. I wish more of my students would read this blog and see that I am not “the crazy no-credit guy” and that a no-credit lifestyle actually has merit. I have seen enough students with $50,000+ in student loans complaining about maxing out credit cards to make me sick!
If you are responsible and understand the game you are playing, then using a credit card and paying the balance every month, is a logical choice, but if you have any qualms about it, I say STAY AWAY!
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After I paid off my credit cards from college (maybe $500) I didn’t use credit very much for a long time but I found that cash seems to slip through my fingers in a way that credit doesn’t. I never know where the cash goes but my credit card companies keep track for me. All that being said, until last year I only had 1 credit card with a $1000 limit on it and no perks. Now I have one that puts money into my IRA and I use it for almost everything. I never carry a balance, though and I run reports on my spending twice a year to make sure that I’m being responsible.
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To the folks concerned about the 2-3 day delay in transferring funds: I bank with Pentagon FCU and if I transfer funds in they are available immediately, no 3 day wait. That alone was enough for me to switch to them as my primary bank. I keep my funds at ING making money, and also have instant access to them.
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@Tran Harry
You mentioned making multiple payments on your CC balance during the month….does this have a benefit or is it a personal choice?
I remember a post awhile back from J.D. about “average daily balance” and still being charged a finance fee but I was a little fuzzy on the details. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
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I’m 36. Been using debit cards only for… *thinks* at least 5 years now, maybe 6-7. It wasn’t by choice to start with though. I had a couple credit cards with reasonably small balances (under $2k total), but I just didn’t make payments. Eventually they killed off the cards. So I changed over to my atm/debit card. Haven’t looked back. Yeah, I understand the comments about being able to manage an unexpected large expenditure, but the only time I’ve had that was a recent maintenance on the car, came out to $2k, twice what I expected. Simply transferred from savings to checking, instantly available, and paid with the debit card.
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Husband and I got into credit card trouble about 10 years ago, racking up $15,000 in a couple years of spending beyond our means. We had started off with one card that would “always get paid off” and then added another, and another and didn’t take the time to account for the debts being racked up. Within one month of obtaining the 3rd card, we had amassed $1000 that we couldn’t pay off; instead of putting the cards away or ceasing to use them, we continued to live on credit until the day we realized that we were $15,000 in the hole with no signs of stopping. We cut the cards up, spent 4 years paying down the debt and said we’d never have a credit card again.
Fast-forward 10 years. Just this past year, we opened two no-fee cards that reward cash-back for purchases (one for everyday purchases at a flat-rate “return”; one for specific items at a higher rate of “return”). We considered the pros/cons for several years before deciding to do so, and not a single cent of purchase goes on a card without a BUDGETED penny ALREADY IN THE ACCOUNT to back it up. It took 10 years of learning to live within a budget and saving for the things we want to get to a place where we feel capable of handling a card that did not directly withdraw money from the bank account.
Still, it’s not a good idea for everyone. Something along the lines of “being tempted beyond what you can bear” when it comes to having access to money that you haven’t earned. Can I put off buying that ___________ (digital camera, breadmaker, new TV, etc) until there is money budgeted to cover the expense? Will the 0% introductory rate on the card tempt you to buy it now because “I can pay it off before the interest rate kicks in”? If so, stay far, FAR away!!!
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I’ll skip over all the obvious reasons I use a credit card since most people covered them, but here are my 2 main reasons for using a credit card on a regular basis.
I refuse to use my Visa Check card over the internet. If it gets hacked, they can drain your checking account and that money is hard to get back. With a credit card, it’s much easier to dispute it and get it all back.
Second reason, warranty reasons. Amex & Visa (most of them) will double the warranty on almost any item up to one additional year. This is huge, and has saved me over two thousand dollars when a high end digital camera I had broke after 18 months of ownership. Why should I buy an extended warranty from the store when Visa and AMEX do it automatically. Amex blue cash also does refunds up to $300 on almost any item where a store refused to return it for you. I haven’t had to use this yet, but it’s nice to know it’s there.
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I have used a credit card since college, but have never kept a balance on it. In addition to making some money of off the rewards, I enjoy being able to easily track all of my transactions, either on the CC statement or in Mint. It has really helped me learn where my money goes from month to month. Cash, to me, is like ghost money, leaving no trace of where or how I’ve spent it.
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I racked up 25k of credit card debt a few years ago.
Paid it off, no cards.
Then saved 33k in about 12 months.
Then got credit cards (Platinum AMEX for Qantas Frequent flyer points, I have 200,000 points now).
Haven’t saved in ages.
Time to cut them up again.
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I like using a credit card for everything because it’s really easy to see how much I’ve spent for the month. The only things I write checks for are rent and utilities, so it’s easy for me to look at my 2 credit card bills and see my spending patterns.
I live well below my means so I don’t have to ration out every dollar. If I did, I doubt I’d use credit cards at all.
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I enjoy using my debit card for smaller purchases but hotel reservations, cars, vacations etc I enjoy the protection and flexibility using AMEX affords. If you can pay with a Debit card, then you can still pay your AMEX when you return home.
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Using all cash now — but I live overseas where none of the smaller merchants accept CCs and my bank would charge an extra 2% anyways.
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The only problem I’ve found with paying off and not carrying any balances on credit cards anymore is that my credit score has fallen over the past few years, and the thing on my report that shows reasons why says something about not having revolving credit balances.
Now I’ve paid off my school loans, several cars, and a house, but because I don’t carry pointless balances on credit cards, my score goes from the 800s to the lower 700s? It seems asinine (and I recently got declined for a small business loan, which I think this was the reason).
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I use CCs for the vast majority of my purchases. More or less, everything except some restaurants, and places that simply don’t take CC payments.
If you can pay it off every month, but simply forgo having a credit card, you are wasting money in my opinion.
-1% cashback on all purchases is free money. That’s an extra $100 for every 10k you spend.
-Better credit rating is a lower mortgage rate and less money every month out of your pocket.
-The same goes for other loans/debts like cars. But if you are extremely pro-cash/debit and against CC….you probably pay cash for most everything
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“After I paid off my credit cards from college (maybe $500) I didn’t use credit very much for a long time but I found that cash seems to slip through my fingers in a way that credit doesn’t. I never know where the cash goes but my credit card companies keep track for me.”
I am completely the same. Even if I use a debit card instead of cash, I almost never remember to look back at my bank statement to track where that money has gone–with a credit card, I have the habit of checking every time I pay the bill. It makes it easy to change my spending habits from month to month. Cash/debit is great for regularly payments that don’t change often (rent, insurance, etc.), but for me, a complete switch from credit to cash would likely wreak havoc on my finances. That said, I pay off my balance every month and never spend money I don’t have.
As J.D. said, the important thing is to do what works for you.
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When I was in my early 20s (I’m 36 now) I didn’t have a compulsive credit card problem, but I certainly put some unwise and compulsive purchases on them. I don’t remember ever having more than $3000 balance carried over, but considering thats about how much money I had in the bank it was not good.
I didn’t cut up my cards but I pretty much stopped using them for anything other than gas and groceries. I did have to change my spending attitude though. I got to the point (and I still do it today eventhough my finances are very much in order) where I thought about every purchase I make. Even in the grocery store I stop before I get in the checkout line and make sure every item in my cart is something I need. Often I end up putting one or two things back. I rarely make a purchase (large or small) without going over in my mind why I’m buying it and if I need it. That doesn’t mean I don’t buy things just for fun, but I make sure its something I will enjoy.
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Like Rachel and SarahA, I find cash is slippery. Does anyone write down their cash purchases in a check register?? I sure don’t … maybe if there was a third column, I would. BUT I religiously write down my debit card transactions, which is 90% of my spending.
I’ll be getting a rewards credit card soon and will use that instead of the debit card, but will still write down every transaction in the register because I’ll be paying it weekly.
No interest in living without credit cards. They’re just too convenient and efficient, not to mention that added layer of security and recordkeeping.
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I’m one of the reverse ones who have a much harder time controlling cash spending than I do controlling the credit card. If the cash is in my pocket… see ya!, but if I have to swipe the card will usually just not do it.
That said, my one exception is if I am buying from a local store / business of some type (and I was able to plan ahead) I will try to pay with cash to help them avoid the fees. But a big chain retailer like Target. Swipe.
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I use my CC exclusively for online purchases, mostly for the protection it provides, it’s also my solo paypal funding mechanism again for safety.
It has a very low limit (1500 – the bank hates me for that) and it gets paid of once I can confirm the charges have come through correctly on it, usually 1-2 days later.
If I need a bigger limit I simply dump cash into it and push it into the positive, the bank doesn’t seem to mind. I did contemplate shifting to visa debt but then I lose my protection for online purchases.
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I’ve never had a credit card. When I went overseas in year 11, I did get a Visa debit card, and I’ve never needed anything else. As long as I have money in my account I can use it overseas, online, over the phone, anywhere I’d use a credit card, so that fixes all the issues of convenience.
Actually, I think when I got my mortgage last year the bank gave me a credit card to go with it, but I never activated it and… don’t know where it is. In one of the boxes of paperwork.
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Carry one credit card, leave one -different network – at home (for emergencies).
Pick card(s) with no annual fee and a long grace period. Plus rebates.
Pay for everything with card, creating a documented record of spending and categories that can be downloaded into budgeting programs. Also, using the card for everything maximizes rebate amounts – and might benefit credit scores if paid in full every month.
Only need one check (or electronic payment) to pay off all purchases – IN FULL – every month.
Wash, rinse, repeat.
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#8 Tran Harry…..works for a credit card company.
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Hi JD,
I agree that the most important thing is to do what works for you. There’s absolutely nothing so right or wrong using credit cards. Personally, I prefer to use credit cards because:
1. It offers convenience
2. It rewards you with loyalty points, which can help you save money.
Of course, I do use it responsibly and I’ve never been in credit card debt. As long as an individual can use it responsibly, there’s really nothing to worry about.
Cheers~
Mark
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Credit cards are like alcohol… Use responsibly and in moderation. In small doses they can be good for your heart, but bad for your overall health if misused. And possibly, the one leads to the other.
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I’m closer towards a “no cash needed” lifestyle, and I wouldn’t have it any other way. The bills are paid automatically. I never have to run to an atm, never have loose change. Cashless is really the future. Credit cards are the best way to operate cashless because of the merchant rules and rewards.
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Out of college, I didn’t use a credit card for about 3 or 4 years. Not sure why I started again. I use one again, years later, because I travel a lot for work. I get reimbursed quickly but have no interest in floating a loan to my employer, since I have to make hotel/flight/other arrangements well in advance of my trip.
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I just hate the idea of debit cards — I wish I could get my bank to get rid of mine. No rewards, no consumer protection, no warranty extension, no building of good credit, “holds” prevent me accessing my full balance, and if I lose it, someone can drain my bank account and it can take days/weeks/months to get my cash back? No thanks. My credit cards automatically pay themselves in full each month and allow me to keep most of my cash earning interest without having to worry about my checking account balance in an emergency. I haven’t paid interest or a fee in years, so I’m not even supporting the credit card industry — if anything, I’m costing them money.
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I like going all cash (as much as possible) for many different reasons.
We use an envelope-based budget and we have found that we spend significantly less using cash than credit. The money we save going cash-only is so much greater than any amount of “cash-back” we could have gotten from any credit card. And we never paid finance charges when we used our credit cards – we were the “responsible” pay in full every month kind of chargers.
With the envelope method, I feel like I have a handle on where my money goes and don’t need to “track” my expenses via a credit card statement. Paying less than $600 a month for groceries for 5 people is all I need to know in terms of “where” my food money is going monthly. It does take more planning at first, but then it is seamless.
I am never surprised to find I spent more money than I planned to. I don’t open a bill to find that there are “surprise” expenses, nor do I forget that I put x, y or z on a card.
I love the fact that my personal purchases cannot be data mined and studied by credit card companies, or my bank. I take out money at the beginning of the month and don’t have any other transactions that leave a paper trail until the beginning of the next month. As someone who values their privacy, I like knowing that what I purchase and when is not readily available to whoever might want access to that type of information. It is the same reason that I don’t take advantage of “club” cards at bookstores and other retail establishments. My personal information is not for sale for a couple of % points off my book purchases.
The biggest draw for me on going cash only as that it forced me at the beginning to “name every dollar” as Dave Ramsey would put it. I found out pretty quickly where my “fat” was, cut the fat away and found that I had *more money* almost immediately, with very little true impact on my standard of living. The most important thing that going cash only did for me was let me increase the amount of money I put into savings, investments and other wealth building vehicles. We are saving almost 30% of our income a year now, as opposed to just over 15% when we weren’t cash only. And living better (wealthier, less stress, more money in our pocket – day to day)
We still occasionally use our credit cards, but only when it is truly more convenient for us – usually less than once a quarter. And I pay the balance off online as soon as I get home. We don’t earn a lot of “rewards” but we have so much more money!
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I have been living – mostly involuntarily – without a credit card since 2001. I’ve had to move (landlord sold short to avoid foreclosure) and got into a bad housing situation because I had a poverty-level income, minimal cash and no credit.
So now I’m desperate to move but have no money.
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My wife and I went cash/debit card only last February and it has been the best decision we’ve ever made. However, we understand that we need to play the “FICO game” for a little while until we buy our first house in order to get the best mortgage rate. We have put our monthly gym memberships on the credit card and pay it off immediately so that the credit card accounts will not be closed due to inactivity.
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I didn’t have a credit card for a little more than 5 years. Before that, I had a card from college that I was paying off and not making new charges on. The card company always sent me notices with $0 required payments and I generally sent a payment anyway.
Then, when I was traveling, they decided to make a $5 (seriously, $5 – I only had about $400 balance on the dumb thing anyway) minimum payment. Since it happened while I was out of town I didn’t make the payment and they froze my credit…right before I tried to buy a dress for my mom’s wedding. It was really embarrassing.
So I came home, scraped up the cash, paid them off, and canceled the card. To much pleading and trying to “make things better”. I was SO ANGRY – they wouldn’t “work things out” on the phone over the $5 payment I missed but once I walked they were sorry, just like an abusive spouse.
I finally got a card again 4 or 5 years later when we needed to rent a car for a long trip (we didn’t have a car from about 2003-2005). I didn’t use it again after that vacation and eventually they closed the account, so then I had no credit card for a while again.
Two years ago a few things caught up with me. One was that our vet bills (two 15+ year old cats) exceeded the $200/day limit on my debit card pretty regularly. The other was that I finally bought my first ever brand new couch, and we got a car and I wanted a credit card in case of emergency repairs on road trips.
So now I have a credit card. I use it for large purchases (that couch, hotel reservations, plane tickets, new curtains). Then I come home and make an online payment, sometimes before the charge has posted.
Having an active card raised my credit score about 10 points, which put me above my partner – something I think is extra funny because he makes 5x what I do, owns “our” car, and has the exact same level of debt I do – literally exact, we each only owe on the jointly-held mortgage.
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I use a credit card for most of my purchases through the month. When I am at a local vendor/coffee shop I try to pay cash. But I have found that I pay more when I have cash. If I buy $12.78 of groceries at the local Coop I tend to put the extra change in the jar near the check out supporting a local cause. If I don’t then I have to keep repeating “$12.78…$12.78…” to myself all the way home so that I can put it in my budget. Instead I can remember $13, which is easier. So cash tends to cost me more, and it is harder to remember to record it into my budget; credit transactions have a slip of paper that follows me home.
Of course I pay off the card every month. So really using the CC is a good way for me to keep track of things. (And I can’t imagine what it is like to do the envelope system. Don’t you jingle constantly carrying all those envelopes with change in them around?)
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Oh, but I do have a CC from a credit union, and they have never stuck me with surprise fees, or changed anything on me unexpectedly. In fact they are quite liberal with their leniency on late payments. But that is what you get when you aren’t dealing with a bank that needs to make a big profit for its shareholders.
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No credit cards here. It made it tricky to get a car loan – we have no credit at all, have lived only out of our bank account for over 7 years – but was well worth it. we still don’t have a credit card. It’s like impulse control. If we don’t have credit, we can’t spend more than we can afford.
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The quote from Sandra Block is funny: “the average consumer owns five credit cards” It should be “the average consumer is owned by five banks! I lived debt free for years until I bought a house two years ago. I underestimated how much stuff we would “need”. I couldn’t have a new house without a big screen TV, Blue Ray player, front load washer & dryer, riding mower, etc.
I cut up my cards on Jan 1 and will be debt free again by August(excluding mortgage). I will never go back. It is a constant source of stress and worry to owe someone. From now on it’s cash only.
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When I had to take one of our cats to the ER in the middle of the night, they wouldn’t even look at her without a $200 deposit (due to so many deadbeats). There is no way I’d ever keep that much cash around, so I don’t want to imagine what could have happened to her if I hadn’t had a credit card.
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Love this site. Came across it by searching for a DIY forum but I’ll definitely be bookmarking it to come back and read through later.
Credit cards– have one for emergencies. I don’t carry a balance but I would say that for a lot of people, it’s too easily accesible.
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As a diehard credit card user I could give it up tomorrow if I needed too. However, I”m one of the “pay it in full every month – love the cash back feature” audience. Credit is a convenience for me, a short term loan from my company- who pays me to use it! It would be silly not to since I can control my habits with it. That said, if my credit cards went away tomorrow I would be fine living without them.
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We haven’t used them for about nine months, since picking up the Total Money Makeover by Dave Ramsey. We were responsible credit card users who paid their bill off each month. I’m quite sure we overspent by 10-15% a month and now we live on a budget and keep that money in our pockets and decide how to spend it. It’s hard to justify getting 1% back on the Discover when you overspend by 10%! We also got sick of the credit card industries practices. Yes people use them irresponsibly but the industry has preyed on these people for years. We’d had enough of hearing how friends and family were hurting as a result. I totally don’t miss them.
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