What Marriage Has Taught Me About Money
Published on - February 23rd, 2010 (Modified on - March 12th, 2010) (by J.D. Roth) This is a guest post from WC, a guy in Chicago that writes about money at The Writer’s Coin.
In May, I will celebrate my two-year anniversary with M, my favorite person in the world. I thought I knew a lot about everything before we got married, but now I’m wiser. So for all the newlyweds out there, or the ones thinking of walking the plank getting married, here are some things you should know.
There is no I. Marriage is all about the “we”. It’s not “your” money or “my” money, it’s “our” money. It isn’t your retirement, it’s our retirement. It’s not an easy concept to grasp, but you’d better adjust because when you get married you really don’t have a choice. The sooner you accept it, the easier it will be. Don’t fight it…As you’ll see, this will become a recurring theme throughout your married life.
There is no “right” way to do things. When M and I got married, I checked my bank and credit card accounts every day. M did not — she just made sure there was always money left in her account at the end of the month. When I showed her my method, she was taken aback, but she saw some use to it.
So we found a middle ground: we sit down and run through our budget midway through the month and at the end. It gives us a checkup halfway through and then at the end we check to make sure we met all our goals. It’s like a challenge and it works for us.
Maybe you use a fancy spreadsheet you run through every month that tells you exactly where your money is going. Or maybe you use Mint to track your spending. Or you might be one of those people that does it all in their head — no paper trail necessary.
Either way, it might be the way you do things, but that doesn’t mean it’ll be the way we do things. You will have to adjust and find a way of doing things that works for both of you.
Saving is saving, no matter how you do it. Being a big fan of I Will Teach You to Be Rich, I used to open multiple high yield savings account sub-accounts with specific names for whatever it was I was saving for. It’s called targeted saving, and I thought it was a great idea.
If something unexpected happens, you take money out of the emergency fund and you still get to make your budget. It’s all a psychological thing to keep you feeling like you’re on track.
I showed M the system and she gave me a look: “What’s the point? It’s all the same amount of money either way.” She was right and I started to question how useful the whole system was. In the end, it didn’t make the cut — we didn’t find it useful enough for the time it took to set up. I thought it was a great idea, but M was right: it’s still the same amount of money. End of discussion.
The important thing is that we were saving, regardless of how we did it.
Falling in love is good for the budget. It’s called economies of shared living, and it means you’ll spend less money when you split the cost with another person.
But you’ll still need to set up a budget that works for the both of you.
I used to use my credit card for everything. It tracked all my spending and gave me some decent rewards. M, on the other hand, liked to have cash in hand. But I wanted to get her to budget, and my system of simply knowing how much you’d already spent (remember by daily checking of accounts?) just wasn’t going to work for her.
But she felt the pressure to find a system that worked for her so we could meet our budget every month. And she did: the envelope system. She took out the money she had allotted for the week and then stopped spending if she ran out of money.
As for me, I still use my credit card like I did before. This was one thing we were able to keep individualized, which is important when you get married (we still have individual accounts outside of our joint account). With all the push to turn I into we, it’s good to have your own things you can do how you want.
The important thing is that you have a budget in the first place.
Cooking together is a great idea. You get to spend time together, it’s good for the budget, it’s healthier, and it creates some equality in an area where traditionally it’s one person doing all the cooking.
In most relationships, one person does all the cooking. Maybe you have an arrangement where the person that doesn’t cook does the dishes to make up for it. That’s fine — but I would recommend trying to spend a fair amount of time in the kitchen with your significant other.
It’ll give you a good environment to work together towards a common goal — making a good meal. Things can get tense in the kitchen, but that’s the whole point — you’ll learn from it and when something more serious than overcooked lasagna happens, you’ll have the tools to handle it.
Plus it’s fun.
Communicate. Marriage isn’t easy, especially when you’re talking about money. But even if none of the other stuff I’ve mentioned clicks with you, then you should at least take one thing with you from this post: communication is key.
You might not track your money or save anything or cook together. But you better communicate or else your marriage is going to be a train wreck.
‘Til death. I’ve been married for just under two years, but I can still remember what it was like to deal with money on my own: You think you have all the answers and you treat everything the way a dictator would. You’re never wrong and everyone else sucks.
Marriage has introduced democracy into my decision making and I’m grateful for it. It’s made me smarter, wiser, and less of a jerk.
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@Chelsea:
“Once we’re retired or one of us can’t work for other reasons we’ll start joining our money more.”
That’s my point – is there any risk the “winner” will feel resentful about sharing their winnings with the “loser” who refused to take more/less risk with their investments? Will it be a sore point for the rest of your retirement? I hope not, but it is something I might be worried about.
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JD-
Disagree with you about the marriage thing. Agree totally with Dave Ramsey.
I brought this point up in a recent bible study at church I attended about improving your marriage. When I brought this up, there were several strong reactions from people. No one came up swinging, but about 3 couple disagreed strongly with me. Two of the couple were on their second marriage. Not to be judging, but it makes you wonder if this wasn’t part of the original problem.
Marriage bring two halves together to form a new, complete living, breathing organism. Not to make it sound scientific, but this is how I believe.”
Till death do us part” can mean nothing else to me.
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How can the author of this article understand marriage after two years? He does not have enough experience yet to write this article, what a waste of time. He should write in 20 years, if he is still married.
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The “I” in marriage should stand for interdependence not
independence. Joint checking account or not!
(married nearly 17 yrs, combined finances for 20)
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@ Naomi
“Separate mortgages on the same house? Now that’s a new one! I didn’t even know you could do that! So, if your husband falls behind on his mortgage and the bank forecloses, does the bank only get half of the house?”
We each have a trust so the mortgages are under the trust. I guess the bank would get 1/2 the house but I don’t think we’d ever get to that stage. Whilst we do have separate mortgages and a fair amount of separate finances, we talk about our finances regularly and if he was struggling I would help him out & vice versa. Also he loves our house/property too much to fall behind on the mortgage, we got a great deal with a large amount of land in the city!
I haven’t heard of foreclosures happening in NZ – we seem to be a bit more stable than elsewhere in the world.
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I don’t think enough is discussed on the potential differences there are between couples. Both pulling in the same direction is a must as differences cause great emotional differences. If one person has strong frugal values and the other spends on a card like crazy it’s not going to work. It’s happened with me and i’m learning to not want to spend, and we are becoming happier.
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I’m astounded at all the comments taking shots at how long I’ve been married. If you’ve been married for 20 years, then this maybe isn’t for you.
But I know that when I was engaged, this type of advice was really big for me. I always wanted a peek at what was around the corner and what married couple’s “realities” were when dealing with money.
So there.
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I hesitate to say there is a right or a wrong to this question. I think it depends upon the money style of the two individuals. I think you need to examine each person’s feelings about money and then tailor your system to work for both of you. In my second marriage, we did ultimately decide to pool our resources, and neither of us has a separate account. We trust each other, in that both of us know what the other spends, and neither of us has a problem with that. We also have shared goals. We both work, we both share responsibility for the bills, and we have a shared vision of our future. That is what works for us!
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I’d like to see some stats on divorce rates when it comes to joint vs. separate finances.
Does anything like that exist?
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@The Skeptical Housewife (89 & 90)
Yeah, it’s all a matter of balance. I agree with JD (and you) that there’s a place for “I” in marriage… but some take that to the extreme. IMO, finances, as a best practice, should be shared on some level. The mechanics of how a couple does that is none of my business, nor even is the question of whether they do that, but here we are talking about our opinions. FWIW, that is mine.
BTW, as a fellow atheist, I feel your pain when people tell you how to live your “spiritual” life. However, one doesn’t necessarily have to understand that word as a reference to the supernatural (whatever that is). I live a spiritual life, even though I don’t believe in God. There is a part of us that we are not always conscious of, that affects us nonetheless. The subconscious is one aspect of that. It is not a supernatural phenomenon, but it certainly could be called spiritual. That’s the definition I give it for my own purposes anyway.
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I think the best think that marriage has taught me about money is how to give. There is no greater joy than giving and sharing and there is no better way to do it than in the sacrament of marriage. I have 8 wonderful children and wonderful life. We live financially free and are saving towards a good retirement so we can spend even more time with our children as they live through their adulthood.
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Late to the show on this one. Had to chip in on the I/We discussion JD raised on this. It is both I and We. You need to work together, but you need to understand and allow for each other’s plans/strengths/weaknesses financially.
Whatever you do, you can’t do something bad (i.e. splurge) because the other did. That just hurts both of you (been there, done that, learnt my lesson).
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