When I struggled with money during the 1990s, I had no clue what I was spending each month. I made my financial decisions based on my checkbook balance: If there were a few bucks left, I’d find ways to spend the money; if my balance was close to zero (as in $10 or $20), I’d turn to my credit cards. Where did this money go? If you’d have asked me, I wouldn’t have known.
As part of my financial turnaround, I learned to track my spending. In fact, this was one of the most effective tools in getting me to change my spending habits. Every week, I’d sit down at the computer to enter my receipts into Quicken. Once or twice a month, I’d play with the graphs and reports, keeping an eye on the problem spots. By tracking every penny that I earned and spent, I became more aware of my habits.
But something’s happened lately.
Last summer, I noticed that my discipline seemed to be lacking. Instead of logging my spending every week, I’d often go two or >gasp!< three weeks without using Quicken. At first, this made me fret. “Something’s wrong with me,” I’d think. “If I don’t track my spending, I’ll lose control.”
You know what? I didn’t lose control. Even if I went an entire month without entering my info into Quicken, my spending stayed in check.
Last fall, as I was writing my book, things got even worse. Sometimes I’d go six weeks without remembering to enter data. And then 2010 rolled around. Here’s a shocker: Since doing my year-end numbers in early January, I haven’t logged my spending once. And just last week, I stopped saving every little receipt. (It’s been years since I tossed out a grocery receipt before coming home.)
Some of you may be alarmed by this. A few years ago, I would have been concerned, too. But I’ve actually found that my scofflaw attitude is liberating. Over the past few months, I’ve seen that I’m perfectly capable of practicing conscious spending without logging every penny I spend.
Although I no longer track my spending in detail, that doesn’t mean I’m ignoring my finances entirely. Hardly! I still check my statements every month to be sure there’s nothing goofy. Plus, I double-check to be sure my account balances are continuing to grow. In a way, it’s as if I’ve removed the training wheels and am now zipping around the driveway on only two wheels.
This reminds me a little of my return to credit cards. In 1998, I destroyed my credit cards because I couldn’t use them responsibly. For nearly ten years, I lived without a personal credit card. I was afraid to trust myself. But about three years ago, I decided to take a chance. I set some ground rules and signed up for a single card. Since then, I’ve not only used credit responsibly, but have actually learned that it can make life more convenient.
So maybe leaving Quicken is the next step. Maybe part of the third stage of personal finance is recognizing that my financial discipline has become ingrained, that I no longer need certain redundant systems because the internal systems are working just fine.
Or maybe I’m fooling myself.
I’d love to hear from other GRS readers. How many of you track your spending? What’s your financial situation like? Have you found that you’ve “outgrown” Quicken and Mint and similar tracking programs? Also, I’m dying to know: As my mental relationship with money matures, will I find that I’ve outgrown the need for other techniques that helped me get out of debt?
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J.D. I’m worried about you. Your cash flow has clearly increased (partially because you have no debt, and partially because of the success of your website). I would caution you not to let your lifestyle inflate with your increased cash flow. You may be saving a lot of money right now, but how much are you spending? Is it safe to assume that your book, and website will make you rich? Maybe, but if you spend your early profits, and the well runs dry, then you are back to making money like the rest of us do.
What I’m basically saying is that there are warning signs in your posts from the last month. Lifestyle inflation is a particularly sneaky disease, and if you aren’t tracking your spending, you may not realize how much it is costing you until it is too late. For a good example, look at the Mortgage industry. People who used to make $200K/yr are struggling to make $40K in this lack-luster lending environment. If they didn’t have enough savings from their feast times, they may be making some of those 8 deadly sins in these famine times.
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i didn’t have a credit card till i was 40. 39 for a checking account and then only for automatic withdraws for investment. always paid the card off every month, never bounced a check. this is no brag just fact. i’m 58 retired no mortgage no bills except tax, utilities, insurance, ect… i did not do this out of mindfulness or as a budgeting plan. it was because when i got out of the navy seabees 36 years ago i knew our country/society was misguided. you can’t drop out. you must participate but you can minimize your damages. i do this out of contempt. ps i’m not a curmudgeon or a cheapskate.
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for me as with every other habit it has been a question of increasing awareness… good money habits have just naturally flowed… best of everything
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@jeffeb3 (#101)
That’s a great insight, and I agree: I need to watch out for lifestyle inflation. I’ve thought about this a lot lately. While my income has increased, it hasn’t increased so much that I should start throwing wild parties and buying everything in sight. And that may be the best argument to continue tracking my spending.
Right now, I’m not worried about my spending. Obviously I don’t have the details to back it up, but from what I can tell, my day-to-day spending is as modest as it has been over the past few years. The real difference is that Kris and I are saving for (and budgeting for) Big Things, such as trips and furniture.
Again, all of the comment here have made me realize that maybe what I need is to find a different system (such as Mint) instead of giving up on tracking entirely. I mean, tracking my spending really helped me, right? I’m sure it could help prevent “backsliding”, too.
Great food for thought over the next month or two. And jeffeb3, I’m absolutely going to keep watch for lifestyle inflation…
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JD– I completely disagree with jeffeb3. I am not worried about you AT ALL.
I do think you’re worried about it, and I think you’re feeling some of that survivor guilt you talked about in an earlier post when you were just getting to the third stage of personal finance. It’s fine to keep tabs on yourself, but I think I trust you right now more than you trust you. You’re trying to find balance between living and saving and aren’t comfortable with it yet.
You spent a long time not being secure with money and you’re not really sure what to do when you have that security. You may have figured that you can afford that third teaspoon of hot chocolate, but you feel like you went a little too far being a first adopter for the I-Pad that you’re not really enjoying as much as you’d thought. (Hopefully that just means lesson learned about being a first adopter, but I think it’s got you worried that you’ll go back to your earlier bad habits.) You’re still not sure about when it’s ok to spend money to save time (e.g. yard cleanup, potato salad) or enjoy life (traveling) and when it isn’t. It may take some time to find balance.
There are many many ways to keep spending under control and tracking every penny is only one. And it’s one that works when your income is much closer to your spending. Remember that you don’t have to optimize your spending anymore, you just have to satisfice. You can spend/save a set amount and be unsure of where some of it is going– that’s ok. You can make adjustments over longer intervals because without debt you have the flexibility to do so.
When you’re out of debt and you’re funding all of the important things first (and your money is making money for you), you don’t have to worry so much about the details. To me that is the best part of the third stage of personal finance. It is what my goal was back when I was a starving graduate student– to have enough money that I didn’t have to keep track of prices at the grocery store anymore. That I could just not worry about money.
Maybe that’s too much armchair psychology though…
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For the past five years, I have tracked every penny that goes through my hands via Quicken. I believe this has allowed me to save over 40% of my gross income before taxes for retirement and investments, to have no debt outside my home mortgage, to pay cash for a brand new Prius. In five years, my liquid net worth has increased over 7 times to $350K.
To force this discipline, the first thing I do when I log into my personal computer is to put my receipts and spending into Quicken before I do anything else. I review my actual spending compared to my budget at least twice a week. I get a high at the end of the month, when I see that my actual spend is better than my budget and that my liquid net worth continues to increase because of this discipline.
It only takes a little work every day, but the disciple of tracking every penny serves as a foundation for developing and maintaining a lifestyle of being frugal so that I can have the freedom to do what I want within 10 years.
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I use mint.com to track my expenses, but I don’t do it daily. I gather all receipts and cash purchases I wrote down and reconcile everything once a week (give or take). It keeps me from feeling fanatic about tracking and keeping up with expenses without letting it all fall by the wayside. Maybe there will come a time when I don’t feel I have to do this, but if not, that’s OK.
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I use Quicken religiously, started last year. None of that receipt entry stuff (or rarely), I use plastic and just download the accounts and categorize, takes a few minutes every week or two. Two earned incomes with 2 passive incomes, and a bunch of accounts, but it’s pretty straight forward. When you use the reconcile feature to lock in the old transactions, it’s easier to fix mistakes on the spot.
I am transitioning to Quickbooks later this year, even though I will miss the stock tracking capability, I still feel it is a stronger accounting suite that I can rely on in the future (face it, Quicken has weird bugs sometimes).
Plus, my bookkeeper is better versed in it, and once the business grows, I will just offload most of the work to her – that way I can just look at statements whenever I need to with everything else on autopilot, for the most part.
Definitely agree that once you get in the habit of spending less than you earn, it’s pretty easy, but I would not give up the accounting thing, I want to see every penny put to work.
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Great post! I think that tracking my spending has been a personal finance godsend for me. I just started doing it a couple of months ago and while it is tedious (your comment about years of grocery receipts made me chuckle … it was like a visit from the ghost of personal finance future), I have found it extraordinarily useful. But of course I’m new to all of this. It wasn’t too long ago that I spent every dime I made and used credit cards when that ran out. I hope to get to the near nirvana state of ingrained fiscal responsibility … but I need the disciplined ritual of carefully tracking my spending on a daily basis (it’s part of the reason I was inspired to start my own silly little blog – http://www.debtmarch.wordpress.com – just another level of accountability that forces me to think about how and where I spend my money. forces me to thinking about how . I freak out now if I miss a day or two … I’ve got my neat little Excel spreadsheet and I track spending by category (new sheet every pay period). Now I’m still paying off debt … so until that’s done I won’t even consider not tracking spending/keeping those receipts on a daily basis.
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I only track every penny when I feel myself slipping and can’t figure out what’s going wrong. I’m going to start doing like bon (#17) says and start tracking every time I have a big lifestyle change–before I start slipping. At least I do re-do my budget every time something changes (mortgage goes up; salary changes, etc.).
I do save all my receipts, though. I have one envelope for each month, and I toss the receipts for one year ago when a new month starts. It has been very handy for me to know where all my receipts are. (Receipts for large purchases go with the manuals for those purchases and thus do not get tossed after only one year.)
And I balance my checkbook and credit card statements every month.
And I update my general savings categories (on a spreadsheet, not in literally different savings accounts) every month and update my net worth calculation every month. Also I make graphs. They make me happy. I mean they help me to always know where I am.
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I basically track every penny. When I get home from work weekdays, I end up pulling out any receipts from my wallet and entering them into Gnucash. I’ve made a routine of doing it right after I check my email. I doubt I spend more than 5 minutes per day on this. I usually enter my utility bills and other non-daily occurrences on the weekend. I’ll admit, I feel a little silly making an entry for a “transfer” from my wallet to my piggy bank for 6 cents (that got in change from lunch), but I just stick to it.
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JD – I agree with jeffeb3 – I’ve been reading your blog for some time now, and there seems to be a shift in your habits. However, if you have a general idea of how much you are spending every month, and that amount isn’t changing, then I think that it is okay to do a monthly check rather than a daily balance.
I do not track my account penny to penny, but when my monthly expenses goes beyond my average level, I usually reduce my spending significantly the next month to balance it out. I also pay myself first, somewhere between 30-40%.
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“You only need enough money so you don’t need to spend too much time worrying about money.”
Unlike many of these comments, I think you’re finally getting it.
Making buying decisions should only be fractionally dependent of your account balance. In the good sense. In the bad sense, your balance dictates all your buying decisions.
I.e. having the money doesn’t mean that it must be spent. To me, the best thing in earning a decent living is the freedom from penny-counting. It doesn’t matter if the delicious orange juice is three times as expensive as the cheap stuff. I can afford it, and it’s just pennies, and I don’t count them. Because I can afford not to. That’s the freedom.
Now, this doesn’t translate to big things. Affording something is very not affording everything. Ask yourself: “how much extra cash one needs to have in order to buy a $100k car?”
If you answer “$100k”, you are beyond all hope. Or, your penis is several sigmas below average
One gets around just fine with a $10k investment, the rest is just financially irrational (but maybe ego-stroking). Hell, if you’re hardcore, you’ll get around just fine with a $1000 car… If I had $1M extra, _THEN_ I could consider a $100k car.
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Man is a creature of habit. You’ve been watching your expenses for so that that you sort of picked up a sixth sense of where your money is going.
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I don’t understand the implication that if you aren’t tracking every penny then you don’t know where you are financially and/or you are likely to overspend. As I said I don’t track every purchase. I just make sure they all fit in the larger picture. And I still track my finances, just not every purchase. I have assets spreadsheets and amortization schedules on all debts. Just because I can’t tell you exactly how much I spent at Panda Express last week means precisely what?
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If you start at a young age (say in college) with a discipline that you won’t spend more than you have than it easily becomes a habit that you can maintain without having to keep formal records of every penny you spend.
It helps if you make a habit of always paying off your credit card in full every month and not buying anything (except a house) until you have saved up for it.
I look at my bank statement each month to make sure I’m still on track. If I find I’ve spent a bit more one month I just back off making any unusual or special purchases for a month or two so that I stay on track.
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I have tracked every penny I’ve spent in the past 5 years. I actually sort of enjoy playing with numbers, so I don’t consider it a hassle. I can’t imagine not tracking my spending, even though I’m fairly sure I could maintain the same level of spending without tracking it. I’m good at sticking to my budget, and it’s kind of motivating to look at my numbers and see how well I’m doing.
One of the greatest things about having a budget and tracking my spending is that it helps me determine whether I can afford something. When I bought a new car, my budget spreadsheet helped me figure out how much of a car payment I could handle. I recently refinanced my mortgage to 15 years, but first I checked to make sure I could comfortably fit the higher payment into my budget. It gives me peace of mind to be able to plan for changing expenses.
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You have attained THE WAY of finance. When the shoe fits it is forgotten. You don’t need to track because your spending.
Cutting Up An Ox
Prince Wen Hui’s cook
Was cutting up an ox.
Out went a hand,
Down went a shoulder,
He planted a foot,
He pressed with a knee
The ox fell apart
With a whisper,
The bright cleaver murmured
Like a gentle wind.
Rhythm! Timing!
Like a sacred dance,
Like “The Mulberry Grove”
Like ancient harmonies!
“Good work!” the Prince exclaimed,
“Your method is faultless!”
“Method?” said the cook
Laying aside his cleaver,
“What I follow is Tao
Beyond all methods!
“When I first began
To cut up oxen
I would see before me
The whole ox
All in one mass.
“After three years
I no longer saw this mass.
I saw the distinctions.
“But now, I see nothing
With the eye. My whole being
Apprehends.
My senses are idle. The spirit
Free to work without plan
Follows its own instinct
Guided by natural line,
By the secret opening,
The hidden space,
My cleaver finds its own way.
I cut through no joint, chop no bone.
“A great cook needs a new chopper
Once a year – he cuts.
A poor cook needs a new one
Every month – he hacks!
“I have used this same cleaver
Nineteen years.
It has cut up
A thousand oxen.
Its edge is as keen
As if newly sharpened.
“There are spaces in the joints;
The blade is thin and keen:
When this thinness
Finds that space
There is all the room you need!
It goes like a breeze!
Hence I have this cleaver
Nineteen years
As if newly sharpened!
“True, there are sometimes
Tough joints. I feel them coming,
I slow down, I watch closely,
Hold back, barely move the blade,
And whump! the part falls away
Landing like a clod of earth.
“Then I withdraw the blade,
I stand still
And let the joy of the work
Sink in.
I clean the blade
And put it away.”
Prince Wen Hui said,
“This is it! My cook has shown me
How I ought to live
My own life!”
~ Zhuangzi (translated by Thomas Merton)
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I find tracking very helpful at this point as I’m trying to pay off debt and have fairly limited budgets for “entertainment” or “dining out”.
I probably don’t have to track things like rent and fixed bills, but that introduces fairly minimal overhead in exchange for a more accurate picture of my bank account, so I find it a minor inconvenience.
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Quicken tracks my spending so I don’t need to.
When gas prices went up, I tried to cut back on driving. Quicken showed me I wasn’t spending anymore than I had in the past on gas. Hurray!
When the stock market dropped like a rock, my question was always, “what does it mean to me and my family.” Quicken (and ESPlanner) allowed me to see the real impact, and not get caught up in the hysteria. I rode out the great recession and and now I am in good shape, because I had the insight I needed.
I am financially independent (including no debt)and doing what I want to do, and can’t imagine how that would have been possible without tracking using something easy to track with (needs to be easy for you of course).
http://hubpages.com/hub/Quicken-Is-A-Great-Project-Management-Tool (project management, but how to easily manager your personal finances as an example)
When I exercise lot I feel good and then think I no longer need to exercise. Losing the discipline just makes it harder to get back in the routine.
Success is doing certain things right everyday. For some of us, this is one of those core certain things.
Bruce
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I was as deep in debt as it gets. It took me a long time to get out. I never once tracked my spending.
Its a waste of time if you ask me, unless of course you need this reassurance.
If you eliminate all unnecessary spending, and make it a habit, there’s no need to track anything.
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When I was digging myself out of credit card debt I tracked every penny so that I could get the most paid off each month that I could. If I found that I spent less on food in a month or didn’t spend quite all my money, I’d send that extra money to pay off my credit card too.
These days I don’t really need that level of detail to make my financial life work fine. I’m back in graduate school, so I don’t really have as much time to spend money, plus I’m around a bunch of people who make exactly the same ‘salary’ I do, so there is much less push for keeping up with the Joneses. I’ve started working on paying off my student loans, which are in deferment right now. Just last month I decided that any “extra” money left at the end of the month would get sent to pay those loans off, much like what I did with my credit cards. By paying myself first (rent, bills, food, savings, in that order), I’m comfortable with how much spending money I have. So if I don’t spend it all, there isn’t a need to keep it around as I already have sub-savings accounts for long term unforeseen expenses.
It’s bizarre to no longer have to worry about where every penny is going, but it’s also gratifying to see that I’ve learned some new habits.
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I have experienced the same thing over the past 2-3 years. Now I have only two budget items:
1. Savings (Retirement/Investing/Emergency)
2. Bills
…anything left is spending money for entertainment, dining, etc. I think once you are at a level of frugality where you have a habit of savings and not spending haphazardly you don’t need to track every penny. What do I care if I spent $50 more on dining this month than last month? The end result is that I saved enough to build my wealth and keep my assets!
I agree with Trina’s comment “You probably don’t need to track your spending now, not because you have so much extra money, but because your relationship with money and spending has changed.”.
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I track every penny. Since I freelance, it makes it a lot easier at Tax Time to find all my expenses for entering on the tax form, since it’s all in one spot.
I think any freelancer or person who gets a 1099-R SHOULD track every penny.
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Didn’t work for me. This month I fell off the track-spending wagon and lo! Diddled away almost twice my budget!!
Okay, okay: one of those spending sprees was an emergency bill: dental work. And I did need a new vacuum cleaner after the beloved Panasonic fell apart like the Minister’s One-Hoss Shay. But the fancy decorative pillows from Pier One? The glorious take-out sushi and four-pack of extravagantly overpriced delicious beer? The concert that I wouldn’t have gone to if a choir member hadn’t sent out a blanket invitation to everyone? The $140 worth of hoses for the pool cleaner that could’ve been put off until next month? Not. so. much.
Got to admit: sometimes entering every darn penny in Excel (I did abandon Quicken…) is a nuisance. But it sure does help to keep the spending under control. If I’d been paying attention, I would have deferred two of those purchases (the extravagant pillows and the pricey pool hoses) and, by using emergency savings instead of cash flow to cover the crown, come in right on budget. Guess I haven’t grown up enough to get rid of the training wheels yet!
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I’ve never tracked what I spent. When it was just me I was able to keep a tally of my bank account in my head . I’m usually a saver with occasional big purchases so it’s never been a problem. I wouldn’t have the discipline to do a tracking system.
My husband is a tracker and loves his Quicken. Historically, he’s done some riskier things with his money, so I think that he likes the sense of security of knowing exactly where everything goes.
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Now I kind of want an Ipad:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9NP-AeKX40
Kitty #1 would go crazy. Maybe a little too expensive for a cat-toy though… we should stick with the $15 laser pointer.
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I still track every penny, in Quicken, almost daily. At this point, my transactions are mostly electronic and it’s almost too easy not to do so.
But the primary reason is for cash flow sanity. I have 8 accounts at ING for different consumption smoothing (deposit 26x per year for 2 car insurance bills per year) and vacation savings, emergency fund, etc.
We also just welcomed a baby boy to our household. I need to know if my checking account has enough cash sitting there to pay the auto-triggered mortgage and other payments, while still zipping dollars to 8 different savings goals 2x per month each.
If it sounds complicated, it is. And if I could get a much larger base checking account balance, I could pay less attention.
The Quicken calendar is what I use the most to spot places where I am heading into the red in the future, and I either curtail spending/savings or transfer savings money back to checking to make sure my balance is covered.
For the stuff that is not checking acct-based, like my 401k and IRA, I run down the prices of all my securities on the weekend, but I don’t pay attention during the week.
Seeing that Net Worth number most every day in Quicken keeps me motivated. We are about to break 6 figures for the first time in the next few months!
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I continue to track my spending in one master excel spreadsheet for a variety of reasons.
1. Taxes. I can quickly generate a list and totalize at the end of the year for all my deductions.
2. General cost of goods and services. I need a new dental crown? Hmm…how much did I pay last time, etc.
3. Reimbursement for business expenses. Again can quickly generate a list to invoice and track.
4. Cost of Living. We move around quite a bit so it lets us track how expensive it is to live in various cities/countries.
5. A bit of a travel diary. That last trip to Iceland…how much did it cost us for food, etc.
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I used to track my spending, but now I don’t. While I found it to be very helpful before, I don’t need it now as I don’t spend that much.
I’ll probably start tracking where my money goes later this year as I’m planning to start some freelancing projects.
I guess it’s all about doing what works for you.
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It’s like your credit-score, just because you don’t track it anymore doesn’t mean you’ll always be okay.
Right now, you’re cushioned/coasting by a fatty-layer of good habits and savings that doesn’t leave you borderline.
Note that the other half of tracking your spending is projecting your spending. With current tracking data, you can accurately project your finances into at least a year into the future against things such as the financial-meltdown, big expenditures, taxes, etc.
Practice what you preach, just as you don’t leave your investments in your 401K/mutual-funds alone, you shouldn’t leave your personal finances alone just because you’re coasting so well.
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J.D., if you aren’t keeping track of your spending, how can you be sure that the transactions posting to your bank account are correct? I am less worried about spending appropriately then I am about fraudulent transactions or even simple bank errors. Balancing my bank account regularly (which requires tracking my spending) is the only way I know of keeping tabs on this, assuming you aren’t operating on cash only.
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I haven’t had a chance to read all the comments, but I second one astute commenter’s take that “you count every penny when every penny counts.” My budget is TIGHT; therefore, if I don’t track it’s very easy for something to be amiss.
I’m a real tracking fiend, though, and I find that for me, tracking has a positive effect on a lot of things. I no longer track my calories, but I do whenever I begin to feel as though my eating has taken a turn for the unhealthy. I’m an avid runner and run with a Garmin GPS system that keeps a history of all my runs (pace, distance, time). I log my workouts at a workout site. For me, doing this stuff keeps me honest, and I like the satisfaction of watching my own progress.
I think in many cases the ‘to track or not to track’ question is about personality as much as circumstance.
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I have tracked every penny I’ve spent since I was 16 meaning I’ve been tracking for 5 and a half years.
I have to say I’ve been a conscious spender from this age and in reality don’t ‘need’ to track. I enjoy all activities to do with my finances (I know I’m quite sad) but it gives me a sense of control.
I really doubt I’ll ever stop because it’s become such a habit. I even consider how I never did it before 16. I just squandered money up until then.
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We had ugly debt. Hideous debt. Back taxes, credit cards, home eq loan. Not because of outrageous spending or extravagant lifestyle, but because of failed business, health care crisis, and a move to another state that went very badly. We ended up carrying 2 mortgages for 15 months, not the 6 months we had planned on.
I developed a plan to track every penny of spending – aiming to simultaneously build an emergency fund while paying down debt. Very difficult, but it can be done. The tracking nearly drove me insane, I became obsessive about it. I had anxiety attacks, I wanted the problem gone overnight, I sat in front of my spread sheets and charts feeling sick over every nickel that went out the door.
To save my sanity, husband and I set up an auto savings and auto payment system that accomplished it all without my having to micromanage. We use MINT to track our expenses. We use ING for auto savings. We use our online banking to take care of nearly all of our bills and debt. We live frugally, purchasing only the necessities and mostly second hand.
Amazing – by letting go, I am now able to see that we are actually making great strides. In 19 months we paid off $18,000 in credit card debt, and $18,500 in back taxes, and several thousand on the home eq loan. We built our Efund from 1 month up to 4 months.
With our debt and savings on autopilot, and our spending a non issue, we’re comfortable sticking to Mint for the big picture now. At this time, it’s better for my health!
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You are somewhere that I think a lot of people want to be at right now in your financial life. I can relate to your story. When I moved into my current home two years ago my finances were just coming out of ruin. It was necessary for me to understand exactly where my money was going. I now though seem to track everything from snacks at work to gallons of gas purchased for my scooter instead of for my jeep. Trouble is now two years later I find myself digging through a pile of old receipts. We’re moving in a month and I have a room filled with every financial decision I have made during our time here. Though it is important to know, I don’t think it is AS important to record it all.
Enjoy the blog btw!
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For years, I’ve kept track of every expenditure when I get paid, and now that I’m married our household income. If we expect a windfall, I make a budget for that prior to receiving it. I don’t think I would characterize it as a budget, because I do not pre-determine what I’m permitted to spend for certain categories. What has been immensely helpful is that I now on an annual and quarterly basis determine how we did for the year. Seeing that I overspent on a particular check is not as helpful, as realizing that I’m saving a dismal percentage of our income for the year. We had so many bills and other obligations -savings kept coming in last. Now I’ve automated our savings -I’ve limited the pie that I have to work with for paying bills. Also the quarterly snapshot allows me to see where our budget is bleeding and set strict limits in certain problem categories. I do not believe there is a right or wrong way to do this -personal finance is about evolving -people who are building an emergency fund and those who have a year of expenses saved and no debt may not need to go through the same steps. I personally like pie charts and seeing where our hard earned dollars are going.
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I want to stop “needing” to log every little thing, but I feel uneasy when I skip it for several weeks.
The funny thing is that we were frugal before I started tracking, while I was tracking, and now that we’re not tracking very often. It hasn’t changed our spending at all since we have always been prioritzers anyway…I could probably let it go if I really tried.
It’s just become a minor addiction…oops.
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Wow, great post, and it gives me hope for what I am doing currently. From i gather by reading your post, it seems like by learning about money and how to handle it you slowly changed your overall spending habits and now seem to be in complete control of your finances. I teach young adults about credit and credit cards and my hope is that if they learn about these topics now, they wont end up in debt in 5 years when they are on their own. This post gives me just a little bit more hope that we can change peoples behavior for the better with education!
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I think you know the answer JD. It’s because you’re making a huge some of money now from your blog, and probably got a good injection in income from your book.
Of course you’re not going to track your spending and saving as closely as when you were making less.
This is your biggest challenge, writing as if you are still getting by day today to relate with your readers, even though you’re probably reaching, or have breached the highest income tax bracket now.
Best,
Sam
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The newest version of Quicken helps automate the process of tracking expenses quite nicely, even without you intervention. I personally use any electronic means to make my purchases and Quicken auto categorizes each transaction based on rules and history when downloaded. The newest version also provides a nice dashboard for a quick view of your monthly spending.
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Tracking spending is a means to an end. That end is to maximize disposable income. Now that you have a better sense of you income and expenses, you should now focus on saving the maximum amount of money you can per day or pay period. For example if you net 300 bucks a month, aim to save $10 a day. If you do this, by default you will have maximized income, minimized expenses and only had to track one transaction.
Chris Jackson MBA
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I’m inclined to agree with all the readers who are cautioning you not to swing too far on this pendulum. It seems like it’s probably time to scale back your tracking to fewer categories and less frequent check-ins. Which, you know, congratulations!
I’m still struggling with our cash flow, and find that I stay on track MUCH better when I can keep my expenses tracking up to date and pay close attention to it. Clearly you’ve internalized these things to a point where you have more flexibility and that’s great.
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dustin post number 3. save those receipts. period.
last august i got audited by the IRS for the tax return of two years previous- a random audit. they went through every. single. receipt.
six hours later. i wouldn’t wish that on anyone. i came home from the audit with 2000 in my pocket.
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I don’t track my spending. I did that when I set my budget. That’s why I have a budget, so I don’t have to track my spending. I have two credit cards. I use one for fixed expenses and bills that are auto-paid (cell phone, car insurance, utilities, cable/internet, and gas). I also allow $25/ week for groceries on the card. If the bill is significantly over at check out, I only charge $25 and the rest of the grocery bill gets swiped with my “anything” credit card. But this rarely happens because if I need to get more stuff I’ll make a second trip later in the week, and that one gets swiped with the “anything” card.There’s not much to budget there, I get all of my itemizations emailed to me so I can do a quick scan to make sure there aren’t any additional and unauthorized charges (and only if the bill amount is off-base, which is rare).
My other credit card is my “anything” card. I don’t use cash, except when absolutely required and to pay both cards in full at the end of the month, so I use this credit card for anything that’s not charged on the first credit card. I have a monthly allowance so I don’t track my expenses. No need to, this money is for whatever I want and I don’t have to justify anything as long as it stays within the allowance. I like having the two cards. It separates my expenses, I get cash-back on both cards, and it’s easier to stay under 30% of the limit of each card if the expenses are split up.
I only pay 3 bills/ month (escrow-which includes mortgage taxes & insurance, cc1 & cc2)and I only pay bills twice a month. I pay my anything CC with the first paycheck of the month, and my fixed expenses CC and Escrow payment with the second paycheck of the month.
I should mention I get retirement taken out of my paycheck (to get the employer match), and contribute $1000/ year to my Roth IRA (not much, but it’s decent for being a mid-twenties single homeowner making under $30k/year GROSS). I also immediately pay my savings account a fixed amount the minute my paycheck gets deposited.
I’m satisfied with my budget, but of course I hope to one day be able to max out my retirement vehicles yearly, save more, and spend more (on frivolity) . I don’t need to make a lot of money, but I’m hoping with a combination of earning a little bit more at work, moderate investment returns, paying off my mortgage, and no longer needing to fund a full emergency fund, I’ll be able to meet those goals within 10 years. Then I’m praying that the budget will be a self-oiling machine from then on. Direct deposit paycheck into checking and savings > bills auto paid from CC > CC auto paid from checking. All I need to do is oversee the operations and DONE.
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Also wanted to add that tracking is not the same as “reviewing”.Tracking implies checking all along. Reviewing is what I do when my credit card bill posts each month and it takes 10 seconds to scan the itemization. Sometimes I’ll login on line if I made several purchases in a day just to make sure they posted correctly. I’m all about the macro approach. It makes me feel like I’m free to spend money, without actually spending any additional money. The only time I track individual expenses closely is when I’m gathering data to create a budget. Once I determine what the right numbers are for my current lifestyle and goals, they get locked in and put in safe place, out of the way.
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I hate tracking and have never done it on a consistent basis. I’m still a saver and have a healthy bank account.
Instead of tracking, I pay myself first: 15% to my 401k, 10% to slush fund/emergency fund/target funds (such as home improvement projects). I work hard to keep a check on lifestyle inflation.
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I track every penny on an Excel sheet because I have to–my boyfriend and I split 50/50 on bills and item by item on shopping trips, but I pay initially because he’s a student and pays me back when he can. Tracking hasn’t altered my behavior, though…I think if I didn’t have to I wouldn’t bother because we’re frugal by nature. The only reason I would is if I had a big “want” in mind, like a vacation or new toy, and wanted to budget accordingly.
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I prefer to track larger trends such as saving rates and total monthly expenditures (credit card + fixed expenses + variable expenses + cash purchases from a set amount of cash). If either trend seems out of whack, either positively nor negatively, I investigate further. Tracking pennies is a time consuming chore and isn’t always necessary on an on-going basis for personal finance.
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