Money Myths and the Importance of Thinking for Yourself
Published on - April 27th, 2010 (by J.D. Roth) When I sat down to write Your Money: The Missing Manual, I knew I wanted to start with a chapter on happiness. (Well, to be fair, I was going to conclude the book with this chapter; my editor suggested moving it to the beginning, which was a stroke of genius.) In particular, I wanted to make the point that money doesn’t buy happiness. Because we all know that’s true, right?
Well, not so much, as it turns out.
Can Money Buy Happiness?
As I wrote the chapter, I found that I had trouble locating data to support my hypothesis. There were plenty of people (including me) who loudly proclaimed that money and happiness were unrelated, and their arguments were persuasive, but none of these folks ever offered numbers to support their case.
In fact, the more I read, the more I realized they were wrong. And so was I. The numbers actually show the opposite. Money does buy happiness; researchers have found a strong correlation between increased wealth and increased contentment. In their book Happiness, Ed Diener and Robert-Biswas Diener write: “Rich people and nations are happier than their poor counterparts; don’t let anyone tell you differently.”
But the authors don’t just make the claim — Diener and his son had the numbers to back up their position. Though it’s a widely-held belief, it’s a myth that happiness and money are unrelated.
Sometimes, as in the case of this money/happiness stuff, money myths are just plain wrong. Other times they sprout from a grain of truth.
Do People Spend More When Using Credit?
Financial guru Dave Ramsey often cites a Dun and Bradstreet study that purportedly reveals people spend more with credit than with cash. I’d always accepted his claim as true, and hadn’t bothered to double-check it. But when I was researching the credit chapter for my book, I had to do more than just take things on faith. I had to find actual sources.
Nobody I know has been able to track down this mythical Dun and Bradstreet study. Even Dun and Bradstreet themselves have been unable to locate it. GRS reader Nicole (with the assistance of her trusty librarian Wendi) contacted the company and received this response: “After doing some research with D&B, it turns out that someone made up the statement, and also made up the part where D&B actually said that.”
In other words, the study doesn’t exist.
So why do Dave Ramsey and a host of others cite it? Who knows? It’s tough to trace the origin of urban legends, but that didn’t stopped Nicole and Wendi from digging further. They kept searching for the source of the D&B myth. Eventually, they succeeded.
Turns out, this “fact” doesn’t come from a study at all. Instead, it’s from a short (739 word) article in the March/April 1993 issue (vol42, no2) of D&B Reports (which is no longer published). The article, written by Robert J. Klein, a founding editor of Money magazine, isn’t available on the web, but I was recently able to read a copy.
It doesn’t say what people (including Dave Ramsey) claim it says. Here’s an excerpt:
Well-run businesses borrow money to finance plant, equipment and research. They do not borrow to pay operating expenses. Families should do the same. They should borrow to buy a house to live in, a washer and dryer to keep house more efficiently, a car for transportation to work, a college education for the kids. They should borrow to refinance existing debts at lower rates. They may even borrow to start or expand a family business. On principal, though, they should never borrow to pay for living expenses.
Sure, the article advocates against overuse of credit, but it doesn’t say anything about people spending more with credit than without.
My point isn’t that Dave Ramsey is wrong about this idea. My point is that he’s citing a bogus study, and then hundreds (or thousands) of others are subsequently accepting what he says as gospel. My point is this: It always pays to question what you hear, and to do your own research. (You should even question me. I do my best to provide accurate information, but I’m only human.)
So What?
Why care about this stuff? Why bother to fact-check seemingly harmless claims about money? For some people, it may not matter. But as I try to build a unified financial philosophy, it’s important to know that I’m basing my beliefs on reality, and not on a bunch of conventional wisdom. I’m learning to question assumptions that I’ve held for a long time. Not all of them are correct.
For example, like most Americans, I used to believe that real estate always increased in value. As we’ve seen over the past five years, however, that’s just not the case. (In fact, over the long term, both gold and real estate are relatively poor investments, barely offering any return above inflation.)
I recently polled my followers on Twitter (at both the @jdroth and @grsblog accounts) for other examples of money myths that smart people ought to question. Here are some of the more notable responses:
- Several readers don’t like the notion that “debt is a tool” or that “you need credit”. You can live in a modern world without credit, even though plenty of folks will try to convince you it’s impossible.
- @ericabiz said: “Worst one: When people think that being poor is somehow virtuous, and rich = evil or taking advantage of others. It’s pervasive.” @mile73 said something similar: “If someone has ‘a lot’ of money, it couldn’t be because they worked hard to get it. It must be because they lucked into it.” These myths are most succinctly stated by @budgetsaresexy, who wrote that he dislikes the idea that “Money is for greedy people.” I agree. It’s not wrong to be rich, folks. Money isn’t a bad thing.
- On a related note, many readers complained about the oft-cited Biblical quote, “Money is the root of all evil.” They pointed out that it’s the love of money that’s considered the root of all evil.
- @crunchysue thinks it’s a myth that “You can plan on your salary increasing throughout your lifetime.” This highlights how statistics can be deceiving. In general, salaries as a whole will probably increase over time. But that doesn’t mean your salary will always increase. It’s important to budget on what you actually earn, and not what you hope to earn in the future.
- @mile73 doesn’t like when people say, “There’s no point in saving. You could get sick and lose it all.” This one bugs me, too. It’s the whole “you can’t take it with you” mentality. Just because you might get sick, and just because you can’t take your wealth with you when you die, this doesn’t mean you shouldn’t save. Balance, people, balance!
- @extremejacob doesn’t like the myth that frugal is the same as cheap. He also doesn’t like that most people measure standard of living in terms of spending and consumption.
- A number of readers hate the popular belief that buying a home is always better than renting. As we saw recently, sometimes renting makes sense.
- @chicagoelevated wrote that she’s fed up with the idea that if you do what you love, the money will follow. She’s pursuing a career in something she’s passionate about, but she’s seen first hand that hard work isn’t always profitable. (Still, I think it’s also bad to put up with a job you hate just to get a fat paycheck.)
- @creditgoddess wrote: ” I don’t like: ‘A bad credit rating stays with you for life.’ Sure, if you don’t change habits, but it will improve if you work at it.”
- Several folks hate shopping “myths”. @ambermae hates, “The more you buy, the more you save.” @moneyhighway agrees, as does @weathershenker who notes that if a sign says “Save 15%”, you are spending 85%: “Sales can be good, but if you truly want to save, don’t spend!” Great advice.
A couple of other folks dropped me notes by e-mail. For example, Claire wrote:
When I was in college, I found out what a bunch of bull “You’ll appreciate it more if you pay for it yourself” was. I was fortunate to not have to take out loans, but I saw close friends struggle with paying for tuition since they had no support. We all valued our education equally. I didn’t screw around & party and waste my opportunity at college; neither did my friends.
Think For Yourself
This has been a long post to make a simple point: Don’t just accept conventional wisdom, and don’t blindly heed the advice of financial “experts”. Listen to this stuff, sure, and consider it. But think for yourself. Do your own research. When you hear somebody make a claim — even if it’s somebody you trust — seek independent verification before you make life decisions based on the information.
Do this for blogs (including this one), but also do it for books and magazines. The more you learn, the better you’ll be able to spot errors and fallacies and situations that don’t apply to you. You’ll also find it easier to question sources that you once considered authoritative.
Remember: Nobody cares more about your money than you do. If you don’t take the time to double-check the financial advice you receive (in person, in books, and in blogs), then there’s a good chance you’ll end up in financial trouble. Be smart, and look out for yourself.
What do you think of the money myths I’ve mentioned here? Are they myths? What myths bug you the most? Has a money myth ever led you into financial trouble? (I suspect that quite a few GRS readers have been hurt by the “your home will always increase in value” myth.) And, most of all, how do you learn to separate fact from fiction?
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Being rich might not be bad, but it certainly is if you’re rich at the expense of the 2/3rds of the world that can’t even find $1 each day to live on.
And I’m pretty sure that everyone in the US is guilty of that.
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Excellent article. I felt motivated to respond.
“Do what you love and the money will follow” is a money myth that irks me to no end. It should be revised to “Do what you love and MAKE the money follow.” You cannot be lazy and expect to make money. With that said, choosing a career or job based on your passions greatly increases your chances that you will earn the money AND be happy. But I’ve also seen the opposite where people use the “do what you love” as an excuse to NOT work. If you dream too much but don’t proactively pursue your dream, then you are going nowhere.
Thank you for this article; I feel like printing and pinning it up on my wall!
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Money can’t buy happiness, but it can make finding it a lot easier.
I disagree with whatever that study is that says we spend more with credit.
As far as I can tell, you spend exactly what you want to spend, its all a matter of discipline. People may be less disciplined with credit, but I think this theory simply provides an excuse for people in debt.
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Awesome, awesome post. This was such an informative article! Thank You!
I wholeheartedly agree with your main idea. “Think for yourself.”
My husband and I invested in some real estate 2 and a half years ago based on an “expert’s” advice. But, we didn’t really know all the ins and outs of the investment. Long story short, we are in the process of unloading the property at a discount.
Lesson learned. Invest first in ourselves. Learn about which investments we want to do because we we like it and we completely understand the investment. Investments are our responsibility regardless if an expert gave his/her advice or not.
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Here’s one: “Always max out your 401k before investing outside of this tax-advantaged retirement account.”
Because I have a large family and a single income, I’m just barely in the 15% tax bracket. I sat down with the 401k advisor at work and told him my situation and that I didn’t want to tie up my money for decades in a retirement account if I could avoid it. I asked him if a Roth IRA would be a good idea since my tax rate could only be higher in the future and at least I could withdraw my contributions without penalty in an emergency. Nope, all he could say is “401k”
Well, it seems that the long-term capital gains rate for 2008 through 2010 for people in the 10 and 15% tax brackets was 0%. How is any retirement account better than that?
Wish I had known that two years ago. I could have doubled my money tax free and still had complete control over it!
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Having been a faciliator for DAve Ramsey’s FPU for many years, I have found that his concepts are sound, but not every individual can or maybe even needs to follow them to the letter. Case in point, buying with credit. One of your readers readily says using plastic results in overspending for her. I know others who use those airmiles racked up by using plastic for everything and paying it off at month end. Personality makeup is the difference and it just supports your statement that we must evaluate concepts in terms of our own strengths, weaknesses & character. Not unlike dieting!
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Here is a book review about “The How-To of Happiness a Scientific Approach to Getting The Life you Want” by Sonja Lyubomirsky.
http://finance.yahoo.com/expert/article/moneyhappy/63192
According to the book review, the authors studied happiness for two decades and concluded that the cause of happiness is mostly in the genes, but some happiness comes from life circumstances (money is one on the list). Money does make a difference for people making very low salaries, but after a point it really doesn’t add much at all.
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@DanT:
“It’s amazing how many times the media will report some statistic, but if you go look up the actual report, it’s significantly different or even entirely opposite!”
That’s a great point, Dan. I always shake my head when I see a CNN headline that says something like “47% Oppose Healthcare Reforms.” OK, so then 53% don’t oppose it, right? Why isn’t this a good news story, instead of a bad news story?
That’s an example of reporting the minority side of a statistic as if it were the majority. But other misuses of statistics are even more sinister. For example, another recent CNN story announced that 45% of Americans think the amount of income tax they pay is fair. But what the story didn’t mention is that 47% of Americans pay no federal income tax at all! So of course they think it’s “fair” – they’re not paying anything! I’d be pretty happy with the system too, if I didn’t have to pay anything at all! Those kinds of statistics-abuse make my blood boil.
Disclaimer: I made up the statistics in this post.
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@SF_UK: Negative equity is not meaningless. It makes it difficult to refinance at better rates. It puts you in danger of a foreclosure if you have a financial emergency. And it locks you into your property, even if you do decide to move later.
I don’t see a house as an investment either, but I sure as heck don’t want to be sitting on negative equity. Nor do I want to spend more money on a house than I have to. We rented through the bubble and I’m glad for it. We didn’t have our own place, but we saved hundreds of thousands of dollars.
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@Kevin:
I don’t agree with your example:
“I always shake my head when I see a CNN headline that says something like “47% Oppose Healthcare Reforms.” OK, so then 53% don’t oppose it, right? Why isn’t this a good news story, instead of a bad news story?”
“Don’t oppose” is a passive phrase. You can be in favor of, have no opinion, be unsure, or fail to respond and you “don’t oppose” something.
In your made-up statistics, that 47% is probably the plurality.
That’s not to say you’re not right about people abusing statistics. You’re absolutely right, which is why it always pays to look at the actual source and see what is actually going on.
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Interesting discussion. Thanks for bringing it up.
A lot has already been said about the correct scripture reference (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Timothy+6:10&version=NIV) stating that the LOVE OF money is A root of ALL KINDS of evil (not even close to the same thing as “money is THE root of ALL evils”).
But I do think we need to be careful when correlating money and happiness. As science teachers are fond of saying, “correlation does not equal causation” (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation_does_not_imply_causation). My son, upon returning from a mission trip to Kenya, said the thing he was most struck by was a widow with 7 children and little else. She was as joyful and content, if not more so, than any American he knew (which included his mother and me… how convicting!). Perhaps one could try to argue that if she had money, she’d be even happier. But I doubt it. She had a different source of hope and a different set of priorities.
So while I’d rather have money than not, I’d most like to have the level of contentment the widow had… something money didn’t buy.
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Maybe I’m a bad person for this, but I got a little laugh out of the fact that Dave Ramsey quoted something that doesn’t even exist!! I’ve read a book of his, and wasn’t impressed at all, and honestly don’t understand why so many people think he’s the best person ever when it comes to finances. I’d rather learn from real people, like you. How awesome you did al that research and can put a stop to who knows how many decades of that false information being spread around.
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@#37 Kent K:
“JD for me one of the biggest myths is that a college education will lead to higher income.”
If you plot two normal distribution curves, overlapping and not mutually exclusive in the middle, one with a $30k median for those without a degree and the other with a $50k median for those who have a Bachelors degree, they would overlap, showing that the average person with a college degree is likely to make more than the average person without one, but there is a lot of overlap. Sigh. Where’s a whiteboard when you need one?
You remember normal distribution curves… like looking at a dromedary camel’s hump from the side, with most incomes clumped in the middle of the hump. Then think of two normal distribution curves – like a Bactrian camel’s two humps
, the one on the left being the high school diploma-holder, and the one on the right being the Bachelors degree-holder.
Education Department salary statistics can be found at:
http://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=77
They show that in 2006, males 30 years old with a high school diploma had a median income of $30k versus $50k with a Bachelor’s degree.
For Conspiracy Theorists: Does the Education Department have bias in their numbers because they’re in the business of selling education’s benefits?
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@#40 Brent:
“The only thing of value in a crisis is gold.”
The actual saying is “There’s virtually nothing you cannot buy with gold, even in a crisis.”
If you cannot afford gold, buy silver!
Paper money doesn’t hold up as well in severe crises.
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@#108 Kevin:
The actual statistic (per the Treasury Department), is that the bottom 50% of taxpayers paid only 3.4% of the federal income taxes paid in 2006.
Your statement “So of course they think (taxes are) “fair”…” still stands.
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“In fact, the more I read, the more I realized they were wrong. And so was I. The numbers actually show the opposite. Money does buy happiness; researchers have found a strong correlation between increased wealth and increased contentment.”
I know I’ve commented several times before that you were wrong when you tried to say that “Money doesn’t buy happiness”. I’m glad you FINALLY saw the light!
I hate it when people say that “money doesn’t buy happiness”. *Usually* (not always, there are exceptions, but USUALLY), the people who say it are well-off and have plenty of money to take care of all their basic needs and then some.
However, everyone I know, including myself, who are poor, KNOW that money can buy happiness. Of course it can! People usually are NOT happy when they’re fretting over trying to keep a roof over their heads and food in their bellies. People are usually NOT happy when their dreams never become realized because they are too poor to achieve them. People are usually NOT happy when they can never have a vacation, or do anything fun, because they have to work multiple low-paying jobs just to pay the most basic of rent, food, utilities. If they were paid better, and made more, or had a windfall (and managed the money well), they would be happier. I know I would be. I’m usually very unhappy. Meeting my basic needs is often either stressful (working multiple low-paying jobs) or embarrassing (having to move back in with parents because I’ve failed to make ends meet due to super-low earning power), and I’m usually pretty sad or stressed due to this. I have dreams I know will never happen, because I do not have money.
EDIT: I missed the part in the box where you said that money does have an impact in boosting people from poverty. But I really think the impact is much *bigger* than people give it credit for. For the people who are already well-off, yeah, having more money might have a small impact (since they already have enough money to realize most of their dreams), but it’s still a significant enough impact to make the saying “money can’t buy happiness” a Myth. I’m just glad you’re finally putting that saying in the Myth category. Thank you.
However, (and this is important)…Money cannot buy Joy. Joy is different than happiness. Joy is something on a more spiritual level and doesn’t come from anything material. I think sometimes people confuse happiness and Joy when they’re talking about money (or lack thereof).
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@ Missy (#73)
You too, eh!??
Your story is the same as mine. People kept telling me to “Do what I love”, so I become an art major in college and graduated with a BFA, emphasis Graphic Design, with Honors. Art was always what I did best and loved.
Now, I’m middle-aged and can’t even find work, since there are very few art or graphic design jobs out there, and way WAY too many out of work graphic designers and artists.
“Do what you love and money will follow” is STUPID advice. I agree with you about “decide what your values are and make them important.” One needs to decide if they really don’t value a roof over their head or comfort. For someone that’s ok with crashing on a friend’s couch their whole life and living a nomadic life, then “Doing what they love” is a definite option.
But if you value a roof over your head, steady income, and security, it would be far wiser to get into a career that’s stable, has a lot of jobs, and pays a living wage.
So here I am, middle-aged, and going back to college this fall for a real degree (accounting). Because I’m tired of living in poverty, because I got horrible advice of “Do what you love and the money will follow” as a child.
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I use statistics everyday, studied them in my masters and PhD. And I can tell you that the average person cannot really draw conclusions from “statistics” to the extent that they think they can.
It makes me a little angry that people who have worked their whole lives in one profession and consider themselves experts in that area think that they master my profession with a Wiki article. While the Wiki article is certainly better than no statistics education, its probably best if the average person adopts the view that without credible sources (academic journals not mass media), most of the statistics people throw around are really meaningless because they are completely unsubstantiated.
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@ Missy- you have hit upon what every generation before the boomers knew. My father made a LOT of money. He was really a poet. He sold cars to support his family and their lifestyle.
He probably would have been a published poet if he had done it full time. Instead we lived a great life and he self published work.
I wish that I had really known what the key was 30 years ago. I am great at sales- but went into education. It is a place where “follow your passion and the money will come” is total BS.
Glad you figured it out far younger than me!
Another myth- Pay for a a graduate degree and it will bring more money. Unless you are working for professorship- let the company pay for your next degree! Getting a graduate degree without a profession attached is simply silly these days.
@Paul. We bought silver overseas once- what a waste of money! It is difficult to deal in a commodity unless you know exactly where to sell it to. We decided them- buying gold and silver really only work if you live in a third world country. Most Americans are not interested. Better to grow a garden if things get that rough!
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DC Portland makes an interesting comment (#57). Moreover, the psychologist Daniel Gilbert has an interesting take on the topic of money and happiness in his provocative book, Stumbling on Happiness. With all the knowledge that exists in the world, he wonders why people still make so many bad decisions or have inaccurate ideas. He suggests two possibilities: a) a lot of the advice that we get from others is bad advice that we foolishly accept, or b) a lot of advice that we receive is good advice that we foolishly reject.
He proposes the notion of “super-replicators,” beliefs that get transmitted from one generation to another independent of whether they are accurate or inaccurate. My colleague Dr. Fred Horowitz calls these “memes” and refers to them as a virus. Gilbert contends that the belief that wealth increases human happiness is a super-replicating false belief. There is much research that supports this assertion. However, there are complicated reasons for propagating this belief. He argues that the production of wealth serves the need of a capitalist economy, which serves the need of a stable society, which “serves as a network for the propagation of delusional beliefs about happiness and wealth.” For more on money and happiness from a midlife perspective, see http://www.happiness-after-midlife.com.
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I would like to thank those who have commented on the ‘Do what you love’ myth.
For years my aim was to be a professional full-time artist (a painter). This is almost like trying to be a Hollywood actor. I finally saw the light when I realised I was being paid well to be a web content writer (my “day job” that “wasn’t my dream”) and that I really enjoyed it.
Also I read a book called ‘Refuse to Choose’ which changed my life as I realised I do not have just one passion – I have a great many (including music, writing, crocheting). Now I enjoy being able to pursue my hobbies without financial pressure or commercial concerns. It seriously rules!
I’ll also add that I never studied at University so avoided student debt. It never made sense to me to get that much debt.
Instead I worked various jobs including animation (work dried up) but mostly temping doing data entry/reception in offices until I got the opportunity to contract as an intranet editor (having learnt HTML code in my spare time back in 2000). I worked really hard for 3 years learning on the job and that led me to my current role. Still learning as much as I can on-the-job.
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@Jan #119:
There are two kinds of gold and silver worth buying for the average person who believes inflation is coming in the next five to ten years.
Jewelry or ornaments that you enjoy is one type, bought because you enjoy them, but the markup on jewelry or ornaments makes them a poor investment choice in most cases because when selling you get only the melt value (unless the item has great artistic value).
The other type of gold and silver worth buying is bullion, bought and sold based on weight and purity.
Check out a website like KITCO and you’ll see there is always a market for bullion.
Some people enjoy rare coins, but unless you enjoy that as a hobby, sticking to bullion bars and coins makes for an easy market for buying and selling. (Buying/selling through a local dealer has the added advantage of immediate possession or divestiture, but check prices online to ensure you’re getting a fair price – and make sure you’re insured for loss or theft, using a safe deposit box for most holdings.)
All that said, a garden is a delight – with food benefits. I totally agree they’re a worthwhile pursuit.
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There’s a balance to doing what you love. In economics we call it compensating differentials. The more you love your job, the less they have to pay you to get you to do it.
I’m not sure that the recommendation is necessarily a myth, but that maybe it should be “do what you love up to some extent so long as you’re willing to make the sacrifices entailed … you could also do what you like if it helps you get a lifestyle you prefer, or even what you hate if it’s for a short enough time and allows to to become financially independent so you can eventually do what you love”
You can be an artist if you are talented and willing to make other sacrifices or have other support — if your view of “enough” is small, if you have family support, if you have a lot of money in the bank creating its own income, if you don’t mind working in whatever situation you can, if you’ve got a different day job. And if you’re from a working class background and deciding between being an artist or working minimum wage jobs… well, might as well do what you love. Not everybody is willing to be a nurse or an accountant, even for more money. You can do what you love, but maybe not as a full-time day job and generally not for a lot of money since a lot of talented people seem to love the same things.
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I do come from the middle class and do have a very different idea of the value of education than my husband’s working class family. For me, college was always about the consumption value, the coming of age experience, becoming a more cultured person. I went to a small liberal arts college. My major didn’t matter– I would gain critical thinking skills in whatever discipline I enjoyed and quite possibly do something entirely different once I graduated. Turns out I enjoyed some pretty marketable stuff, but it could have easily gone a different path had I chosen linguistics instead of economics as my second major.
When it came to graduate school, I did look at what was marketable– economics made a lot more sense than math in terms of opportunity costs of time, and future employment and salary, given my interests in the intersection between the two, it was an obvious choice which to pursue (economics).
My husband took a different path. His parents decided he was good at math and science and should become an engineer if he didn’t want to be a doctor. He started with an engineering major right away at a big university. In the end, both paths seemed to work for us, and if they haven’t there’s still plenty of time to change.
I’ve never really thought of my future career as being defined by what I majored in in college. And really, even in my phd program there were plenty of people who had majored in things other than economics, but chose to get their training in graduate school instead after working in the real world and developing new interests. It is never too late to switch.
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As usual, JD, another superb post. I try to keep an open mind about your staff writers, but 90% of the time I drop by, the only posts that pull me in are yours.
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@JD Roth (#58) I sent a message to Robert Biswas-Diener to see if he is interested in an introduction. I’ll let you know if and when I hear something back from him.
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“It always pays to question what you hear, and to do your own research”
This is so true, not just with money issues but anything in life. If enough people repeat something, it becomes a “fact” even if it’s completely wrong.
And with the quick communications on the internet, the problem is just that much worse.
Personally, I don’t think money buys happiness so much as pushes misery out of the way.
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Coming late to the discussion, but I just had to chime in with the other commenters re: the value of a college/university education.
Fifteen years ago this month, I made the decision not to pursue a PhD in social psychology, even though I had been accepted into two programs (loooooong story, and an unpleasant one at that). Several months after I’d made this decision, I came across a book offering practical advice for prospective grad students. The one tidbit I remember from the book: universities do not offer graduate programs because the market is so lucrative for grads once they finish. Rather, it’s to a university’s advantage to have grad students because they provide a pool of cheap teaching labor.
Undergraduate education is similar in this regard. Colleges don’t offer majors and minors in all kinds of fields because students will benefit financially from pursuing them. Rather, enrolled students equal cash flow from tuition, room, and board; cash flow means that the faculty, staff, and administrators can keep their jobs.
To paraphrase bethh’s comment (#64): just because someone will let you buy an education doesn’t mean you can afford it, nor does it mean that it will have value to you. Vern’s quote (#97) was spot on.
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Looking back, I have been fortunate.
My life has been one lived through impulsiveness and gut feeling.
I would just get up and decide to hitch hike across the country. Then half way across, decide to turn around.
I got into doing jobs that I had to do with my hands, i.e. blue collar, because when I was 16 I put an 8 track system in my car and my Dad didn’t know how to do it.
I got tired living on the east coast and decided to move to the west. College at that time in CA was free. I had a blast. Got a degree because I had the GI Bill.
Got tired of working for other people and started my own business. Never made a lot of money, but I loved my job, (simple appliance, ac repair), and had a satisfactory life.
It’s like I see bad things happen to those around me, but for me life has been good. I certainly don’t see myself as anything special, but I’m thankful.
It’s my opinion that we’re going to see tough times ahead. I hope its not end times that the Bible talks about. But if not, it might be good for us.
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Great post and comments!
My favorite myth is that you shouldn’t pay off your mortgage because you lose the income tax deduction. I have never understood why you should pay the bank a dollar to avoid paying the government a quarter.
@Missy (#73). Good observation. I grew up poor and wanted desperately to have money. In high school I researched careers that would pay well and chose computer science. It’s not my love or my passion, but it has provided a nice life for me and my family.
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“Old cars cost more to maintain, so it’s cheaper to regularly upgrade to newer ones” – not necessarily!
Being a bit anal, I’ve kept track of every cent I ever spent on my car. Taking inflation into account, the average annual cost for the second ten years was LESS than the average annual cost for the first ten years. Even now, in its 24th year, keeping my oldie is more cost effective than buying another one.
My experience shows that if you buy something decent, maintain it properly, and drive sensibly (eg. gentle acceleration & braking), you can prove false the myth that older cars are more costly. Of course buying a lemon and mistreating it might lead to a different outcome!
I haven’t paid a cent in car purchase costs for over 20 years, and the money I’ve saved has got me ahead in other ways.
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I believe that money increases happiness up to a point and after that there really is no increase. Economists have found that a bit beyond the point that we satisfy our basic needs additional wealth doesn’t add to our happiness. Real GDP has doubled over the past 20-25 years – we drive bigger cars, live in much bigger houses, have cell phones and powerful PCs and yet economists find that we are no happier in 2010 than in 1990.
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My husband’s grandfather gave him good advice many years ago: Never do what you love for a living. Doing what you love because you have to, not because you want to, will squash the joy you find in it.
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In “The Impact of Credit Cards on Spending: A Field Experiment”, it is interesting that the authors started out to prove that credit cards should be banned altogether. And yet their experiment failed to prove what they were aiming for. So they spent the conclusion giving caveats about how the study results should be treated cautiously.
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Note: This comment is not from J.D., but from a reader named Brian Z. He couldn’t get it to post, so I’m posting it for him. For some reason, though, WordPress won’t let me use his name, and only displays my name.
First I want to point out that the author, hopefully out of his own ignorance and horrid researching skills, has misrepresented Dave Ramsey’s citation of the study/article. I myself have never heard or read anything that Dave has said or wrote where he claimed that it was from a Dun and Bradstreet study. On the contrary, in Dave Ramsey’s 2003 edition of Financial Peace Revisited he references the very article that the author claims he had to be told about by some “mythical” GRS reader and her librarian. If the author had actually Read the book or even just found the spot in chapter 8 of the book where Dave refers to the article and then turned back and looked at the appropriate reference note in the back of the book he would have found the following in the Notes section for chapter eight:
18. Robert J. Klein, “When to borrow, when to pay cash,” D & B Reports (March/April 1993), 63.
(Ramsey, 2003, p.317)
This just proves that for all he talks about fact checking he doesn’t do much of his own.
Second, the excerpt doesn’t prove that the article in question doesn’t say exactly what Dave and others have claimed it does, it just shows that it doesn’t say it in that paragraph. He would have been better off either posting the whole article or not posting anything at all. An excert is meaningless, as it is just that an excert specifically chosen by him because it makes no mention of what Dave and others allude.
Then when he starts using people who follow him on twitter and the like as a polling ground? I’m sorry but that is a biased audience if I ever heard of one. People who want to know what you have to say or are doing; I think that they would be people who would agree with you and think what you think for the most part.
Ramsey, D. (2003). Financial Peace (Revisited ed.). New York: Viking Adult.
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My favorite axiom–”Never trust an axiom”.
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