The Business of Marriage: Five Things You Should Do Before Tying the Knot
Published on - May 5th, 2010 (Modified on - May 22nd, 2010) (by Sierra Black) This post is from staff writer Sierra Black. Sierra writes about frugality, sustainable living, and getting her kids to eat kale at Childwild.com.
I’m at a friend’s wedding this weekend, traveling with my own husband and kids. The wedding invitation labelled the event as a “triumph of hope over experience”. It is that, and I’m honored to be invited as a witness. But it’s also a business arrangement, something I’m sure my friend (a respected economist) is well aware of.
I haven’t pried into the monetary details of their union, but I’m sure they’ve talked about it.
There are myriad good approaches to the business of marriage. J.D. often mentions that he and his wife, Kris, don’t share finances. By contrast, my husband and I have completely merged our money: Both of our names are on every bank account, asset, and debt we have. We share every penny, and every decision about what to do with those pennies.
Whether you choose to go all in like we did or hold onto your independence, you live with your spouse’s spending choices — for good or ill. If you have kids, they’ll inherit the fruits of your shared financial life. And while research suggests money isn’t as responsible for divorce as many experts believe, it can certainly sour goodwill in a relationship. Trust me on this one.
The really dangerous part is to pretend marriage that marriage has nothing to do with money.
Of course, that’s exactly what nearly every aspect of our culture encourages us to do. I’ve never seen a romantic comedy about a happy couple who fall madly in love as their hands touch at the customer service counter and they realize they’re cashing in the exact same rebate coupon. Lovers in literature don’t stare deeply into one another’s eyes and murmur sweet nothings about their checkbook balances.
In fact, we’re taught to ignore the financial side of choosing a mate. Literature and popular culture are full of romantic tales of giving up the wealthy suitor for the poor beloved. Our language offers an array of derogatory terms like “gold-digger” to define someone who cares about their sweetheart’s net worth.
But the bottom line is that we ignore the business side of marriage at our peril. The day my husband and I got married, the Commonwealth of Massachusetts legally merged our financial lives. Many states do this, assuming an equal sharing of assets and debts in a marriage.
You can create a pre-nuptial agreement that will define how assets are divided in the event of a divorce, but to do so you have to acknowledge both the financial side of saying “I do” and the reality that half of marriages end in divorce. Given how driven by romantic love most of our marriages are, it’s perfectly understandable that most couples don’t go to this extreme.
To set a good financial foundation for your future, here are five things you should do before you get married:
- Know thyself. Before you share the details of your bank accounts with your lover, be sure you know them yourself. If you have debts, know the total amount you owe, and what interest rates you pay on it. Know where your assets are and what they’re worth. Your intended should love you regardless of your net worth, but you’ll both need to grapple with that number eventually. Better to be up front.
- Know your partner. When you’re both in a calm, happy place, sit down together and share your financial information. Try to be open and non-judgmental about your partner’s financial history and your own. There’s no need to feel guilty for being in debt, having more money in your savings account than your partner, or having a spotty credit history, but you do need to be honest. It might help if both of you can think of financial issues as just another challenge of a life together. You can embrace your partner’s lousy credit and attempt to help him recover in the same way that you could support him in recovering from an illness.
- Know your habits Even if you don’t routinely track your spending, consider doing so together or separately for 3 months before you tie the knot. You’ll get good information about your spending habits, and if you can share the information you’ll both have a better idea of what you’re in for and what challenges might lie ahead.
- Know what you want. As J.D. so emphatically and elegantly says in Chapter 2 of Your Money: The Missing Manual, the path to wealth is paved with goals. You need to have some. Your marriage will be better if those goals are ones you and your partner create and pursue together. A lot of marriages suffer when couples discover several years in that their long-term visions don’t line up. If you know your goals include homeschooling five kids, you’d better make that clear to your spouse. You don’t want to find out his priority is staying child-free and sailing around the world in a hand-built sailboat after you’ve walked down the aisle.
- Know how to get there. Even a single evening spent establishing financial goals can do you tremendous good as a couple. Better is to have a clear roadmap of how to achieve those goals. How much do you need to save to pay for that boat? How many years until one of you leaves the workforce to become a stay-at-home parent? If you’re not ready to invest in a financial planner but want some guidance on doing this, check out Simplifi, a free financial tool for charting a financial course.
Of course, not all of life’s big events arrive through careful planning. But laying out a path lets you live and spend with intention from your first days together. It also gives you more flexibility to handle emergencies and surprises as they come up.
For tips on how to keep communicating well throughout your years together, read my earlier article How To Talk With Your Spouse About Money. Starting off well will pay dividends in joy and wealth for your whole life together. That’s a wonderful wedding gift for the person you love.
One little postscript on weddings: You’ll be married for much longer than you’ll be enjoying your wedding cake. If you can, sail off on your honeymoon with no wedding-related debt. Take it from the Success Story winner of the 2010 Get Rich Slowly Video Contest, you’ll have a happier, healthier start to your marriage if you begin with no bills hanging overhead.
My husband and I eloped together over a long weekend in Vermont. I think the entire project set us back less than many couples spend on invitations. Seven years later, we’re still happily married while we’ve watched couples who got hitched in more style split up.
Do you have any pre-wedding tips or additional ideas on what you need to share based on your own experiences? We’d love to hear them in the comments below!
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This is good advice. I will be getting married later this year. I’m sending this post to my GF.
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“Whether you choose to go all in like we did or hold onto your independence”
“we’re still happily married while we’ve watched couples who got hitched in more style split up”
I’m getting tired of seeing these smug guest posts from Sierra Black. Nothing she writes is original or substantial. I wish she was actually able to examine a point of view other than her own, or come up with something to say that hasn’t been said before in other books and blogs.
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I did all that. My mistake was to merge funds and my ex still conned me out of all that I had saved.
#2 Hannah – why don’t you write something substantial and post it.
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Love the “running off to Vermont to elope” image! LOL.
Merged finances works for DH and me, and I can see how it has a slight edge on maintaining separate finances in that there’s more oversight built into the model.
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I’ve been happily married for 22+ years. I clearly remember what attracted me to my lovely future bride. She was smart, kind, pretty, fun and….had good income potential.
When I told her this after we were married, she gave me a good whack, but it was the truth!
(We didn’t have to run off to Vermont for a honeymoon. We lived there already.)
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This line stuck out to me: “Even a single evening spent establishing financial goals can do you tremendous good as a couple.” That is true in my experience.
Each time my fiancé and I sit down to talk finances, both of us feel more comfortable and on the same page afterward.
We have been doing quarterly check-ins (and sometimes monthly if one of us feels like they need it) on spending and goals and the regularity has helped.
Just knowing that our money is something that we consistently review together helps me know that we can adjust as needed and nip problems in the bud.
Good post!
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Money/ finances has been blamed for being the top cause of divorce in America!
These stats should give the ‘newly weds to be’ reasons to look for advice, starigten their finances and be proactive in cumminicating about finances.
I like the tips thatyou highlighted!
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When I read the title of this entry, I was hoping it was some financial advice, things to do before getting married financially. But nevertheless, good helpful tips.
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I’m going to be married for 10 years this September. It is amazing how much time, effort and detail people (us included) put into planning and executing the wedding, but the comparatively small amount of time (if any) spent on the financial picture, which, as Sierra points out, lasts far after you’ve cut the cake. Debts can take years to work through, one partner might want to further their education, stay at home with the kids, travel, buy a house, etc.
I’m not a religious person, but I know that many churches include a “financial” section in the marriage class they often require before they will consent to someone being married in their church. Also I know that they encourage people to talk about “kids”, too. These are two issues married couples need to work out prior to getting married — because it can be MUCH more expensive (both financially and emotionally) to sort it out after you get married!
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Good general advice.
I have been married for about a year now. It’s an entirely different mindset sharing finances. One that took a while to get used to. However, setting and achieving goals with my wife has been very rewarding.
Good luck to anyone getting married soon.
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my spouse and I lived together for more than 20 years before we legally married. during that time, we had separate accounts, but always shared expenses and bought a house together.
One thing I thought wasn’t brought out enough in this post was that over time, things change. Including attitudes toward money and ways of spending etc. Attitudes that seem part of a personality when you marry turn out to be changeable. I know that we have influenced each other (in big things and in little ones: I became more thoughtful about the future, he agreed to use coupons; I encouraged him to buy the car he really wanted, even though it was more expensive, he encourages me to buy good clothes, not just clothes on sale…), and I suspect that in retirement we’ll see additional changes…
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It’s just as easy to fall in love with a rich man as a poor one.
I think it’s interesting how we’ve come from an extreme of financial considerations being paramount in choosing a mate to an extreme of it not being a consideration at all. Perhaps it’s cold blooded of me, but marriage is an institution I think is about more than love. How many people refuse to get married after making a baby because they just aren’t feeling it any more and then struggle to support that kid? Or people who get divorced and ruin their financial lives and often mess up their kids because they have fallen out of love? I’m not saying every couple that makes a baby should get married or no married couple should ever get divorced, but it seems we have put a huge amount of emphasis as a culture on continual stars in our eyes for our mate and the need to constantly be as happy as our flighty selves think is possible (and how often ‘happy’ means the greener grass on the OTHER side of the fence).
I think both extremes are wrong, and while I put that old line at the top to be facetious, I am not one to believe in soul mates. I think if you’re ‘in love’ someone, but it’s a poor match in every other way there is likely someone else you can love and be just as happy with, perhaps more if you’re not dealing with a ton of crap from the mismatch. Some people make it work, but I have seen a lot of people behave rashly for love. So I’ll end this babble with another trite phrase: Act in haste, repent at leisure.
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My husband and I met leading a Financial Peace University small group. It’s such a blessing to be on the same page when it comes to finances. I was just speaking with someone who’s husband went out and bought a truck with a payment after they discussed it and came to the conclusion that they couldn’t afford it. I don’t understand that. You’re in it together. You gotta work together.
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For the most part, these steps are good, solid information, but I see a huge red flag with this point in step #2: “You can embrace your partner’s lousy credit and attempt to help him recover in the same way that you could support him in recovering from an illness.”
One thing I’ve learned over the years is that it’s essentially impossible to change someone else, unless THEY are willing to change too. If you discover that your fiance has horrible credit, have them explain to you what their plans are, and then watch to see if they are actually following through with their promises. It’s real easy for a spendthrift to say during a big heart-to-heart conversation that they will turn over a new leaf, but if the very next day they come home with expensive takeout and a bunch of new gadgets or clothes, your advice and support is not going to have any effect at all.
My suggestion would be to just ask your partner what his/her plans are for getting rid of the debt, and what goals they think they can achieve. Be supportive in little ways-perhaps helping make bag lunches or suggesting low cost activities on the weekends. If they ask you for specific advice, point them in the right direction to websites, books, or whatever they need. But otherwise sit back and let your partner handle the process of change internally. If you notice that your partner is either completely unmotivated or very inconsistent in meeting their stated promises, I would take that as a serious warning sign regarding the potential for long-term happiness as a couple.
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I’m imagining a great RomCom where the two meet at the coupon counter! I would totally pay money to see that!
I enjoy your posts, Sierra. Thanks for sharing this one. We got married while in grad school and did not talk about money at all. Thankfully over the last 20 years we’ve talked a LOT about money and we’ll be completely debt free in a few years!
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Before we got married I really enjoyed going through all the checklists and quizzes available in various places on the internet about what you’re supposed to discuss with your fiance before marriage.
Possibly it helped the marriage and planning for the future, but it also made me feel like we were getting to know each other better, even after 6 years of dating.
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I think Hannah just volunteered for the next “Sunday Reader’s Story” segment.
I like the point about how legally a couple’s finances are mixed together even if they want to pretend to keep them separate.
I’m also curious about exactly how separate people can keep their finances from their spouse. Are there any situations where the spouses have no idea what the partner makes or how much money/debts they have?
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Liked the article but in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts your finances don’t automatically merge. Your debt is your debt and your spouse’s debt is theirs. Same with assets. Now if you divorce we will put it all in to a pot and divide from the pot according to equity which isn’t always half.
We are not a community property state. My husband’s name is the only one on the deed. We are newlyweds and selling his place so we aren’t going to bother changing that. He will be the only one signing the deed to sell it and I have no ownership interest in the place. Now if we were staying in the condo or some other reason to add my name then he would have to go to the registry of deeds and add my name. It is not automatic.
Just a pet peeve when people misquote the law. If we split up, then it may be possible that I would get part of the condo. Highly unlikely as we have been married less than a year and I have lived there and contributed to it for less than 2 years.
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@ elisabeth, that’s a really good point. People do change over time, priorities change, things that seemed important once no longer do and vice versa. That’s why continually communicating is so essential. In any type of long-term partnership there is a bit of a balancing act, and each partner needs to know which way the other is leaning to avoid crashing to the floor.
@ Hannah, I am really sensitive to digs about separate finances and I really didn’t get that from Sierra at all. Maybe she could have worded that phrase better, but I don’t hear smug and superior from her the way I’ve heard it from others who shall remain nameless. (And among our friends and acquantainces, there is some suggestion that the bigger the wedding, the shorter the marriage. Not that it’s necessarily true, it just looks that way sometimes.)
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I’ve been set up virtually with my best friend’s co-worker. We haven’t met yet, but we’ve already exchanged credit scores. I’ve got her beat by 9 points… but she’s a few years younger. We both have cars from 2007 that are paid off. I’m impressed.
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@Shara
I think you need to love your partner, and you also need to love the life you have with your partner. Both of these are essential for any successful long-term relationship. Finances definitely play a role in this, as do many other things.
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Way to go Sierra !
We may have heard them before but they bear repeating, I am sure of that.
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Know thyself, know thyself, know thyself!
I cant tell you how many times I’ve been speaking to friends with marital issues and have begun to realize that the marriage was doomed BEFORE it even happened, because each spouse was expecting the OTHER person to define them financially and as a person. This is sooo important and I’m glad you listed that as #1, Sierra!
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@MoneyGreenLife #8, I think Sierra’s five directives are extremely important, but I’ll be happy to offer the following as an addition.
To successfully plan for a wedding that will not wreck your finances:
1st, decide what kind of wedding and reception you want to have (casual on the beach, black tie at a hotel – work out all the details and trimmings you’d both like, including tips for service providers and gifts for the wedding party, and make your big compromises here and now).
2nd, figure out how much that kind of wedding will cost. (e.g., $15+ per person for the beach and $85+ per person for black tie).
3rd, figure out exactly how many people you want to have at that wedding, including those you are obligated to invite, and multiply by your per-person figure to arrive at a round number for the entire event. Then add 10%.
4th, figure out how long it will take for you to save that much money.
5th, repeat steps 1, 2, and 4 for your honeymoon. Now you know when you can afford your wedding, so you can set the date.
6th, make a budget that accommodates all your financial commitments and your wedding plans.
A lot of people start by setting the date, and end up in really deep water. Let the date be determined by what you want and when you can afford it. This process will tell you a lot about each other.
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Tying the knot?
I am just curious. Doesn’t marriage is exchanging RINGS ? Only Hindus tie knot during their marriage.
Any explanation where this “Tying the Knot” came from ?
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Good post, but like another commenter above I was looking for a checklist of things go over before marriage.
Especially since the post started out with 2nd marriages between people who already have children and debts/assets. The financial issues related to marriage are much more complex in 2nd marriages, yet few financial articles address them except to just say “get a lawyer involved & a prenup”.
Some specifics of things to look out for, things to go over with my intended, would be much more helpful than just a warning that marriage is a financial deal (which everyone already knows, I expect).
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During our marriage prep meetings years ago, the couple leading the meetings said the two biggest issues that caused breakups to occur in front of them were basically how much money a person felt free to spend without consulting with their future spouse and how many kids they wanted.
It always amazed them how many people who dated for months to years never discussed either topic. Often the pair just assumed their own ideas were their partners.
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Very good points, but bad title. Those are 5 significant topics to understand, not things to do. Nitpick, nitpick.
We were pretty good in this area. DH had a huge financial mess with his marriage #1. I watched my parents fight a lot about money, control, goals, and power. So, we came to the issue knowing that we wanted to avoid, and talked about it a lot before we got married.
This is slightly off-topic, and might not resonate with many of you, but someone raised the issue of “marrying a rich man”, tongue-in-cheek, but it made me remember something. I made a point of setting up and being able to support myself in a lifestyle I was happy with BEFORE getting married, so that I knew I could do it and I knew what I wanted. I had the luxury of seriously considering guys who weren’t as educated and not as likely to make a lot of money. I could choose a man who I knew would be a wonderful father and partner, but who might be an artist or stay-at-home parent or minister or organic farmer or something else that often isn’t high-earning.
By being more pragmatic in my career, I was able to be more romantic in choosing my life-partner and more creative in choosing my life. I think too many girls/women are still expecting and waiting for the right prince to set them up. I think that’s rather risky and sad, given that many women are likely to be single during their lives, due to not marrying, divorce, and widowhood.
Just throwing that into the mix.
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Okay, okay. I’m the guilty party on the title. Sierra’s original title was “Your Marriage is a Business”, and I’m the one who decided to go with the “five things to do”.
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great post, definitely some tips to keep in mind before tying the knot. i also think you might want to mention prenups, i know its a touchy subject, but definitely something that should be discussed among future partners.
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tip # 3 is SO important…not just to know your partner’s financial habits but their living habits as well. I know it’s common for people to wait until after the wedding to begin living together, but that can be a huge mistake if you were envisioning marrying someone as clean and tidy as you when in reality they’re a slob.
Also, it’s incredibly important to find out where your partner stands financially: how many student loans they have, if they have any outstanding credit card debt, and come up with a plan of attack together on how to tackle those financial issues since once you’re married HIS debt will be your debt.
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I am a firm believer that couples who want to marry benefit from serious, intensive marriage counseling BEFORE getting married to one another. Listening to my friends, I often think that many of them would have benefitted (and avoided a lot of pain) from going to several pre-marital counseling sessions. My wife and I were made to talk about all of the hot-button issues – including, but not limited to, finances. We were even walked through how to make a budget! I am constantly reminded how thankful I am that we went through that process.
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Great Tips, my Girlfriend of 5 years and I are planning to tie the knot RSN, and like what the poster said knowing what you want and how to get there is certainly our priority
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Another awesome post by Sierra Black! I love her contributions to this blog! Thanks J.D. for adding her on as a staff writer!
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I just got married three weeks ago! Hurrah Hurrah!
We moved in together and bought a home last year, and so we merged our finances at that point (we were engaged). Since I am a bit of a financial guru, I have taken the reins, but we have periodic ‘meetings’ to discuss everything and make adjustments as needed. The first thing we did was to lay out our debts on the table. We have since paid one off, and are going to pay the second off in July (his mustang!). Then it’s just my student loans to tackle, which I have brought down from approximately $36,000 to $9,000 since 2005 (hurrah!).
Being honest financially is such a huge deal in a relationship, and knowing your own financial habits as well. Telling your habits to your partner is a great idea, too. My fiancee never lived with a budget before meeting me. In the beginning it was difficult for him, but now that he sees how much it’s been paying off, he is all gung-ho!
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P.S. We are now in the process where we need to start thinking about joint financial goals and life goals together. Once our debts are paid off, which will be soon, the sky will be open to us. But what to do with the extra income? We are all ready both saving for retirement, which is certainly a joint goal. But what about traveling, or experiences, or that flat screen he’s dying for (he’s being very patient by paying off our debt first).
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@ TosaJen, absolutely! My husband is a creative type. When we were looking to buy a house, I told him that I’d be willing to pay all the bills if he would be willing to downscale his expectations to something I could afford alone. He chose to keep the day job (which he does like) and go for something a bit bigger and better; but if he hadn’t, it’s good to know I could take care of us myself.
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And now, again, my career is in a good space and I COULD take care of us myself if I needed to. (He’d just have to kick his DVD habit.
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Just a small clarification – there is PLENTY of literature featuring lovers’ financial issues! It’s pretty much half the plot in “Pride and Prejudice.” Maybe modern “rom-coms” don’t feature the harsh realities of the wedded union, but the ones from a hundred years ago sure did!
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The only thing I could add is to communicate.
Money can be a touchy subject to talk about, especially if you are from different mindsets.
However, if you don’t talk abou it, it can easily destroy your marriage.
Trust me on that one…
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Fifth Point is quite useful. Even if you don’t bother to do the other four things, the last point probably has the potential to change things drastically. Discussing finances immediately after marriage would be a difficult and embarrassing. With time, however, one should approach and encourage spouse to talk about money. A very good post.
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The wedding marketing system is one of the biggest scams. Money is a huge part of marriage and I’m shocked (well not really) that so many people ignore it. I refused to marry until I knew I could support myself. I am aware life throws curveballs but letting yourself become a dependent can’t possibly be healthy.
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my wife and i started a savings account a few months into dating and then she got pregnant. luckily, we had already started talking about financial stuff, and frankly it has made forming a family much easier considering that we really didn’t know each other that well by the time we married.
we are now two years into our marriage and have a nice cash savings, contribute about 17% to retirement and own a duplex that we use for passive income. essentially, frugality and personal finance stuff has been a consistent hobby of both me and my wife. we have “financial dates” as often as we either of us want. we recategorize line-items in quicken together.
i would think that stability in different areas smooths over rough patches in other areas. in my case, the stress that could have been created by knocking up my wife after 5 months of dating, marrying at 8 months, and having a baby before our 1st anniversary could have easily led to a quick divorce. i think that the stability that anne and i created with our finances ultimately has led to stability in many other areas in our marriage.
good article… not sure what hannah (#2) was talking about…
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@TosaJen – great point! Whether you’re male or female, don’t just rely on your partner to create the (financial) life you want – get out there and sieze it YOURSELF!
There’s all kinds of plusses to that approach, but I think security is the biggest payoff. The knowledge that even if something happened to your S.O. you could still take care of yourself is priceless. =D
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@Vickey – thanks for the clarification. I was basing that on what our lawyer said when we bought a house together, but he was probably glossing details.
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Getting married is not all about romances. There are things that the couple should consider when they say their vows to each other. When you are in the situation and having trouble about financial matters, this could result into an argument. I think, this is very helpful to all those who were planning to get married.
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The list should be six things – adding “sign a prenuptial agreement”
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