On Monday I confessed that since I stopped tracking my spending, I’ve actually had some trouble paying my bills. It’s not that I don’t have the money — I have plenty! — but that I no longer have a system in place to remind myself to take care of routine financial tasks. Quicken was my system, and when I stopped using it, order vanished.
In the comments on Monday’s post, Rob Bennett made an astute observation:
Good money management is not intellectually difficult. Nor does it connote moral superiority. It is all about habits. Some people get in good habits (for any of a hundred different reasons) and some people get in bad habits (for any of a hundred different reasons). And that determines how things turn out. We should be spending more effort figuring out what causes people to get into good habits and forget the rest of it, which is mostly just people talking.
And Shara wrote:
Maybe you could collect some methods people use and write a post about it. So many people starting out stumble around because “do what works for you” doesn’t work when you don’t have the experience to build a system that works for you. [...] “Track every penny” or “automate your bills” aren’t systems. They’re tools and ideas. Some people need a few more specifics.
I think Rob and Shara are on to something. There’s no one “right” way to manage your money. Instead, there are a bunch of different methods and systems that work for different people.
Today, let’s talk about the systems you use to manage your finances. Are they effective? What works and what doesn’t? What have you tried in the past that didn’t work? What would you recommend for folks just getting started?
As an example, here’s how I used to manage money, back when I was in debt. This system (or non-system, actually) didn’t work at all:
- I had no savings. None. I only had a checking account, and its balance was nearly always between $10 and $30. When I got money, I spent it. If I had none, I didn’t buy anything.
- I dumped my bills on a desk with all of the rest of my mail. I had a mental list of when things were due, but I didn’t do a good job of following through. I often mailed payments on the day they were due. (Though I was rarely, if ever, late.)
- Because I didn’t track my spending, I had to guess at my bank balance. Using the ATM balance as a starting point (this was back before online banking), I’d try to remember what checks I’d written and what purchases I’d made with my debit card. This was very imprecise.
- I was lazy. I got paid twice a month, but often wouldn’t deposit my paycheck for days. This wouldn’t have been a big deal except that (a) I was living paycheck-to-paycheck, and (b) I’d often already mailed bill payments based on the new paycheck. As a result, I suffered from frequent overdrafts.
- I treated credit cards as a sort of sneaky way to buy things when I didn’t have the money. I had several credit cards, which were nearly always maxed out. And when they weren’t maxed out, it was only because I hadn’t found anything to buy.
Basically, I had no control over my financial life. It never occurred to me that I ought to have control.
Now things are mostly different. Obviously, I still struggle with organization, which is why I managed to have a late payment of $23.23 to the hospital. But as I said, I think that error is due to the fact that I recently abandoned the system I’d been using for the past five years or so. Here’s the system that worked for me as I dug out of debt and started building wealth:
- I automate as much of my financial life as possible. This means I set up automatic payments where that’s an option, and I request electronic statements instead of paper statements.
- I use my cash-back credit card for as many purchases as possible. For everything else, I try to use my debit card. I only write a few checks a month now, and the only cash I use is my “adult allowance”, for which I don’t keep detailed records.
- I use my wallet to collect all of my receipts.
- I gather all of my bills and financial documents into one location (usually next to my computer).
- Once a week (sometimes once every two weeks), I sit down to enter all of my data into Quicken. (I chose Quicken because that was the only option for the Mac when I started keeping track of my expenses; you should choose whichever program best fits your needs.)
- Once I’ve “done Quicken”, I shred the unimportant documents. I use a document scanner to digitize the important stuff, and then I shred most of that, too.
- Some documents (like tax forms) end up in our fire-proof safe (purchased cheap at Costco).
- I have three sets of accounts: my everyday checking account at the local credit union, a set of savings accounts (each with a different purpose) at ING Direct, and my retirement accounts (both Roth IRA and 401(k) at Fidelity). I regularly transfer surplus cash from my credit union to the appropriate ING Direct account. And a couple of times per year, I make deposits to my retirement accounts, based on what I think I can afford.
While this may not seem like much of a system, it works for me — or did until I tried to mess with it. That’s why I’ll be going back to the way things were; I feel like I’ve lapesed into a bad habit.
My financial success has been all about replacing my bad habits with good ones, but I did a lot of stumbling around before finding methods and systems that worked for me. My habits still aren’t perfect, and probably never will be, but they’re enough to keep me in positive cash flow while also setting aside money for retirement and giving me a bit to spend on today.
What about you? How did you find the methods and systems that help you manage your money effectively? What are those methods and systems? What sorts of people do you think they’d work for? And what options did you reject before picking the processes you use today?
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I use a very simple MS Excel sheet to track my spending. It’s basically a column for the date and one for the balance in my account after the transaction. I list all my bank accounts (savings/checking/other), and so I always know when I need to transfer money from one to the other.
Every month, I copy the previous month’s transactions, and change the dates where appropriate (like for paychecks), projecting out what my next month should be.
I estimate transaction amounts (CC bills, Utilities, etc.), and update them when I actually get the bill. This reminds to actually set up the payment if it’s not on auto-pay (infrequently used CCs, for example). I check my online CC activity at least a couple times a week, so I have a good estimate where I’m trending for the month, and I know if BIG expenses are coming up.
I’ve added some frills here and there for things I like to see (like month-to-month cash flow), but for the most part it’s a register that goes both in the past (I have a few years on the file now), and a month or two into the future. If I’m going to be away from a computer for a while, I make sure that all the necessary transactions are scheduled or automatic until I’ll be back.
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I stumbled around in the dark for a long time before I found a system that works for me. I have been using some version of this system for 8 years or so (with various tweeks along the way)…
– when mail comes in, I immediately sort it into three folders that I keep in my kitchen (garbage/recycle, file/shred, to be paid).
- The garbage/recycle I do right away. The other two folders I deal with once a week.
- I sit down once a week and pay bills (online through my bank) and update my budget in YNAB. I used a lot of different budget/financial management software but didn’t find one that really clicked with me until YNAB. However, my “system” isn’t dependent on what software I use. It is just dependent on me doing SOMETHING to track my spending.
- Paying bills includes going on line once a week and paying my credit card bill – EVERY WEEK. I never wait until it is mailed to me. If I only dealt with it once a month there would be too many things I forget I put on there. This way I can use the convenience of a credit card but easily keep on top of it.
- I have as may bills as I can paid automatically (often on my credit card) and I have all my savings taken out automatically (to various ING sub accounts – emergency fund, special projects, travel, house taxes etc.).
I had gotten a little lazy about updating my budget recently – more like every 2 weeks or a little more. Last week I made a promise to myself to get back on top of it weekly or even more frequently. If I do it more often it takes SO MUCH LESS TIME than if I put it off.
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First things first, my husband and I sat down for an afternoon with our bank and credit card statements and a budget sheet and figured out EXACTLY where our money was going. Sounds easy, but it was an incredibly painful process. It took us about 6 months of talking about it, and about a month and a half of flat-out pulling teeth, and then it was hard to sit down and really be honest about how much we were spending. This was really a crucial exercise for us- it really showed us where the money was going and forced us to wrestle with some really hard numbers.
We knew that, based on those numbers, housing costs and travel costs were our two biggest offenders. While the mortgage was reasonable on the house, when we added up the property tax, the utilities, and the especially the maintenance on a 110-year old house, we realized we were spending virtually my entire take-home salary on a house I didn’t like (it was purchased before I was in the picture). We made another tough decision to prep the house for sale and move into something cheaper.
Our actual travel costs shocked us. We really had never sat down and really added up how much our travel habit was costing us, but at the same time, we were reluctant to give that up, since it’s a huge priority for us. We started up a joint “Travel Fund” and deposited a certain amount for every paycheque. If we want to spend on travel, it HAD to be from that account, and no others. Any extra money (side jobs, etc.) could go into that fund to bulk it up if we wanted to. No money, no travel. This is probably the number one thing that has helped us in keep our costs in check.
We also took some pretty drastic steps to “make more money” (but that’s a whole post of its own).
Now we’ve settled into a pretty stable system. Everything is automated to “pay ourselves first”. The paycheque comes in, money automatically gets transferred out for Debt (the last remaining vestiges of a low-interest student loan), Emergency Fund, Travel Fund, Retirement/Investments. Anything left over is fair game. I do mine weekly because I like the stable cash-flow aspect of it, hubby does it bi-weekly because he likes having it tied directly to his paycheque (different strokes for different folks, even with the same goal).
If we’re overspending, it hits our “left-over” income first. This has two real benefits. a) we notice it right away since that’s our day-to-day spending money, and b) it doesn’t take away from our priorities (debt repayment, emergency fund, travel, investments), only from our “wants”.
I should mention a quick thing on our division of accounts, since it’s a topic that comes up so often. Some of our accounts are shared, some of them are separate. The house is under both our names; our credit cads are separate; some of our savings are shared (travel and e-fund), some are not (debt repayment- my schooling); and our investments are absolutely separate since we have completely different strategies, preferences, and tolerance for risk.
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I’m on an almost all electronic regimen. Even when there are bills that aren’t directly linked between my bank and the company I’m paying (i.e. a bank and the electric company), I can still have a paper check sent to them. Through consistent scheduled payments (student loans, mortgage) and occasional manual entry, all of my bill paying takes about 30 mins a month.
Also, I work at a computer all day (as it seems you are too, JD) so even if I’m in the middle of something, if I see an email come in telling me about a payment due, I’ll go schedule it online. If I can’t do it at that moment I give it a high priority, mark it as to-do, leave it unread and anything else I can think of so I remember it. I also use Mint for budget management and if I don’t see a certain category hitting its usual level (i.e. Utilities), I know something is up BEFORE the next billing cycle hits.
I’m curious though. What kinds of bills AREN’T electronic these days? Even if they are just storing PDFs online, it seems that just about everyone has some online component. I’m not sure if you have an aversion to online payments, but I’d give my system a try. I hardly ever miss a payment and when I do I can usually call and ask for them to remove the late charge because I always pay on time (an awesome trick that can work wonders!).
~Chris Gammell
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My best guess is that you still need to gather the receipts and bills in one place and go through them every two weeks to make sure you’re on track and not missing anything. You don’t need the data from Quicken any more, so that step is wasted time, but you do need the review process.
I learned an important lesson from a boss who filed most things chronologically. He pointed out that it saved him so much time on the filing, that the extra bit of time looking for something wasn’t really a problem. Lots of people don’t realize that you need to count both filing and retrieving time in deciding on a system.
I now files bills and other papers chronologically by month. I don’t need to track them back too often and it never takes more than 15 minutes even if I don’t remember exactly where something is. And my filing time is zilch, so the system really does work for me.
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I use a simple method for ensuring I don’t miss paying any bills.
When a bill arrives in the mail, I immediately put it on the desk in the study, right between my computer’s keyboard and monitor. Every time I’m on the computer, the bills are right there. The next time I’m online, I open the bill and pay it.
Here’s the thing that makes it work: I never open the bill until I’m about to pay it. Thus, if a bill is unopened, that means it’s unpaid. If it’s opened, then I can be 100% certain that it’s been paid, and I can safely file it away.
Of course, if I were to go weeks without using my computer, this system might break down. However, that’s not an issue in my house, as my wife and I both use the computer nightly.
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I have a simple method that is working pretty well for me right now… I have a large desk calendar at work and I write all my automatic payments on it, just the number amount, rounded like 325 on the 15th for my car payment. THis helps me make sure that I know what is coming up when budgeting our pays for the next couple of weeks. Having it on my desk does leave it open so that anyone could come in and see, but the amounts only are shown so my coworkers don’t know how much my mortgage payments are
BUT having it on my desk means that I see it 5/7 days of the week, which I need.
We recently set up automatic transfers to new RRSPs, as soon as I came back to my office I put the new payment on the calendar for the next few months. Don’t want to forget about that one
I definitely need to work more on how we deal with money, but this is working quite well for us right now.
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For me, the key is keeping track of every penny I spend and making sure my income exceeds my expenditures every month. I tried Mint.com for a while, but I got tired of having to change the categories/descriptions to accurately reflect what I considered them. So I instead created a spreadsheet in excel to keep track of everything. The book ‘The Richest Man in Babylon’ suggests an income allocation of 70% for living expenses, 20% toward debt, and 10% for savings, so those are the categories I use in the spreadsheet. Doing this gives me a budget to work with and the goal each month is to have a surplus in each category. Whatever money I have left over after living expenses either goes toward paying off more debt or into savings.
I also pay everything online and set reminders for those bills that aren’t completely automated. This way I never miss a payment.
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I use a method that is a hybrid of an idea from The 4 Hour Workweek By Tim Ferris. I call it batching my bills. We moved all of our bill payment days to a five day window (say the 15th-20th of each month) We sit down and pay all of our bills and make our savings and investment contributions on the 15th of each month. That way on the 21st whatever money is left in our account is our “want” money since savings and bills are already taken care of.
Here is a more detailed description I wrote on a Lifehacker guest post. http://lifehacker.com/5439703/avoid-late-fees-by-batching-your-bills
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I have 3 very simple rules.
1) I pay myself first, automatically. Some stuff (pension, share plan) is deducted directly from my pay. Others are automated payments from my bank account scheduled to go out a couple of days after my pay is deposited.
2) Every bill I can automate, I have automated. That includes all utilities, communications (TV/phone/internet), subscriptions/memberships, credit cards, and tax.
3) Day-to-day spending all goes on a credit card which is paid in full every month.
On top of these 3 rules I feed stuff into yodlee.com which categorises things for me and shows where I’m spending money, but I don’t sweat it too much. If I’m paying my bills and hitting my savings targets, I don’t much care if I spend more than usual in restaurants or bars in any given month.
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Hi everyone!
I had my “I have got to clean this crap up” moment about 6 years ago now.
We will skip on the details, it is essentially the same story everyone else has.
Given my penchant for simplicity, my system had to follow in that mold. I have all my bills entered into a Google calendar as recurring events with reminders coming to my phone. When the bill is payed, that event is deleted. The date used is the date the bill becomes available online, not the date it is due. I pay stuff the first moment I can. (and if you start in on me about the interest my $40 gas bill could have made in a savings account for the next 3 weeks, I’m going to blow a vuvuzela in your face.)
I absolutely do not, however, use automatic billing. It is due in small part to not wanting to have to worry about updating things if stuff changes but mostly I do not want to “lose touch” with my bill paying and obligations. Sitting down to manually execute that payment online is just important to me for some reason.
So far it has worked gloriously.
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I started using YNAB (I think I heard about it here) a couple of years ago. I record everything we spend, downloading most of it via online banking. Now that I know where the money is going, I can figure out how much we can realistically put away for savings, and how much we can spend. I’ve never had this much control over my money before.
Once we got our credit card paid off, I started paying it off every week. I don’t want to get back into the habit of spending money we don’t actually have in hand.
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My habits:
- Pay bills as they come in, online
- Once pay is deposited into my account, the first thing I do is put some into my savings accounts
- Withdraw an “allowance” for myself every week and if I have any money leftover, I put the surplus in an envelope to save for a specific goal, like vacation spending
- Procrastinate from my work by figuring out how much money I have, what kinds of things I want to buy, and how much money I need to get there (not productive, but definitely a habit!)
- Contribute sporadically to my TFSA (Canada’s version of a Roth, I think?). I don’t have regular pay, so I haven’t been able to practice a regular system
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Like yourself, I pay most of my bills electronically and get the majority of my bills that way as well.
One thing I do differently is that with a few exceptions (vonage/msn) I do not use automatic payments. It’s important to me to have control of the cash flow as we are still working our way out of debt.
I pay far enough ahead that delaying a payment does not put me behind. I also tend to pay extra on bills every month.
Not automating means that if something unexpected comes up, I can adjust to meet that need – either by holding back payment for a few days or a couple of weeks or adjusting down to making only the minimum payments and moving the extra money where I need it.
I like the flexibility of this system. That being said, I do use Quicken to track all bills and review the bill schedule every 7 – 10 days. I keep all our bills in Quicken including bi-weekly deposits to savings, quarterly expenses such as oil changes for the vehicles and bi-annual ones such as car insurance.
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I think that it is all about managing your lifestyle
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When I first started managing my money “properly” automatic bill payments didn’t exist and I only had a visa/debit card. I wrote everything down as I spent it, always rounding up charges and rounding down deposits so I had more money in there than it appeared but I never knew how much (over a year’s time you can build up $500 or so in excess that way without even knowing it).
Most bills that I have today get charged to my credit card. Because my card got cloned last year and a few thousand dollars in charges were racked up before I noticed, I go onto my bank’s website at least once a week to check that everything is okay and to pay any bills. I mostly use one visa card and take out $200 or so in cash about once a month. I have an accountability push to summarize through my site, but I use excel and create a pivot table. 15 minutes once a month.
I ensure that I have a pretty hefty “rainy day fund” in my checking account. If the balance falls below $10k (netted with the visa) I really watch my spending the following month.
Last year when I was still working, I had the following method for saving:
Into high interest savings account – one paycheck, all “extra” income including consulting. I lived on the other paycheck except for major renovations, my son’s university costs and one major vacation once a year.
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I only use automated banking for bills that I know will be the same value every time, i.e. mortgage, condo fees, etc. I manually pay (online) the variable bills like my cell phone. By manually paying my variable bills I can double check that there are no errors in the bill. Otherwise I track everything in excel.
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I keep things simple (or, as simple as possible).
I have a checking and savings account with one credit union, ING and Sharebuilder accounts linked together, a retirement account and one credit card. My Student Loans are with one company and I have no other debt.
My monthly bills are far from automated and I get paper statements. When I get the statements in the mail, I pay the bill online and shred the statement so that I know it has been paid.
I have direct deposit so that I don’t have to worry about going to the bank to cash checks and use online banking to confirm transactions.
Nothing fancy here. Maybe the best bit of advice I could offer is that when the bills come in the mail, go right to the computer and pay them, or write the check out and put them back in the mail. That way it is fresh in your mind and you don’t forget.
If you don’t get paper statements and are having trouble remembering due dates, opt in for paper statements and follow the advice above.
The worst thing I ever did was to stop getting paper statements for my credit card. I would forget there was a bill due because I was so used to getting statements. That caused a lot of problems!
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My method is terribly old fashioned but works for me. When I was a starving college student I began doing this and it’s always been helpful. Because not all bills are electronically delivered (doctor, hospital for example), I open the mail right away and sort out what needs to be paid. If possible, it’s paid right then. Get it done and over with. If not, it goes in the stack, based on due date, and handled accordingly. For me the key is doing little bits daily. That way I always feel I’m on top of the situation. Even if something were to be delinquent at least I’d know where I stood. Whether it’s checking balances, payments, or reworking the budget, a few minutes a day saves me a lot of headaches–and heartache.
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One thing I’ve found to be incredibly helpful in keeping track of my credit card purchases, and in making sure I can pay the bill in full each month, is to write down each credit card expense in my checkbook register and deduct it from my balance. I denote it as a credit card payment (as opposed to a check, debit, whatever). When the bill comes in once a month, I’ve already accounted for all expenditures on that bill, and I pay it off knowing that once it’s paid, the banks records will match mine. (Also, no surprise $500 cc bill when I only have $300 in my account.) I write it down when I pay it so I have a record, but obviously don’t deduct it from my balance, because it’s basically already been done, in bits and pieces. (I then go back to those purchases and check them off, just like I do when I see a check has cleared.)
I double-check my own math along the way by going on to my bank’s site, deducting the total of all my credit card purchases for the month from the amount they say I have. It should equal exactly what my own register says I have, i.e.–bank says I have $800, but my checkbook register reflects that I have $600. I’ve put a total of $200 on my credit card. Right on track. This also helps with knowing that my total bill should be x, but it’s only y, if I wait a day or two I’ll be able to pay for all purchases I count for that month. (That’s just my particularity thought. If I charged $200 in June, then I want to pay off all $200. I feel like I get a fresh start each new month that way.)
In general budgeting terms, I’m absolutely someone who needs to track everything. I give myself a set amount for the month for Groceries, Gas, and “Other” (a broad category that covers smaller unexpected bills, fun money, whatever—it works for me) with the money I have after accounting for bills, giving, investing, and saving. It took some tweaking to get down to the perfect amount for groceries and “other” without feeling deprived, but gas was easy to figure out, since my spending on that varies little each month. Each of the three has their own column with the beginning balance at the top. Each time I spend in that category, I enter the amount and deduct it, so I know what my new balance is. If I don’t, I totally lose track of where my money is going. As for which system I use, it’s a fancy bit of budgeting software: a steno-pad, pencil, and small calculator that I usually keep in my purse—1 page per month. Even if I’m not near a computer, I still have my entire budget and know how much money I’ve left to spend on x, y, or z. (Having it on hand has saved my tail on many an occasion.)
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I had to laugh at your non-methods. I have a friend whose “method” is this: When he gets a bill, he puts it in a folder. When he gets paid, he pays the bills in the folder. When the folder, is empty, he buys furniture!
For me, I use a lot of charts and spreadsheets, because I love them. I have an amazing one for my savings and student loan payments. It has lines that travel out 25 years showing the projected balance if I make minimum payments, the balance if I make the payments I’m planning to make (more than the minimum, obviously), and another line for the payments I’ve actually made that projects out to a payoff date if I only made the minimum from here out. It’s very motivating because each time I make an extra payment I get to see my payoff date get closer. It also has lines for projected and actual long-term and short-term savings. I’d like to see that long-term savings line and the actual loan balance line cross.
I have another for my monthly bills that I fill out each month. It makes it really obvious what bills haven’t come yet, or which have come and need to be paid. When I get a bill I enter the balance, due date, and minimum payment into the spreadsheet (or for rent, student loans, etc, I enter it right away because I already know this info). Then when I pay it I enter the amount I paid and when. This makes it easy to track what I’m going to need to pay over the rest of the month, and if I haven’t gotten a particular bill yet it’s easy to page up and see when it was due last month and have an idea of what to expect.
Every Friday one of us gets a paycheck and I pay all the bills that came. Then at the end of the month I transfer the remaining money (above our checking buffer) to distribute it between 2 student loans and 2 savings accounts.
I look forward to the end of the month when I can do this and also when I “pay” myself from my small business. I love to see those lines on my chart get closer and closer together
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I use Mint.com to give me an overview of budget categories, tracking spending, and tracking my net worth. Mint can be as simple or as complicated as the user would like. Mine is fairly complicated – but after an initial few days setting it up, I’m good to go.
I also keep a spreadsheet to know the allocation in our accounts – for example, there is a $3000 buffer in checking (so $3000 actually counts as $0) and in one lump savings account, some is for emergencies, some for yearly car insurance payments, some for vacation, some as a “not-quite-emergency-but-need-money fund (for things like tires on the car, birthday presents), and then the rest is general savings.
This system works really well for me. I also have ALL of our bills set up automatically – I then go in and make bigger payments to the credit card and mortgage but at least I know the minimum is done. For bills that come in the mail, they get paid on a counter by the door and sent out in the mail the next day. Waiting even one day is recipe for failure for me.
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1) Daily: When a bill come’s in I pay it immediately (Never Pay Interest)
. . . 3-hole-punch it and file in a loose-leaf notebook.
. . . also enter pay-stubs, investments, Dividends, Interest, etc
. . . in different sections, “Income & Expenses”
. . . (Broken down by type)
. . . in the same loose-leaf notebook.
2) Monthly: Spreadsheet tracks “Time VS Money.”
. . . (by Months and Cross-footed)
. . . Vertical columns are “Months”
. . . Horizontal columns, “Income & Expenses” (Broken down by type)
3) Yearly: I save a copy of this years spreadsheet in “RED”
. . . . . . as “PLAN” VS “ACTUAL” for next year.
, , , As this years amounts are entered in “BLACK”
. . . . . . . it is easy to see how things have changed.
. . . It also give’s me a heads-up to save for bills, like:
. . . . . . Insurance, House, Car etc.
. . . . . . Tax’s, Property, Car Registration, etc.
. . . . . . Vacation, Christmas, Presents, etc.
. . . . . . Home Heating fuel, etc.
. . . Start a New “Current Years” loose-leaf notebook.
. . . Comes Income Tax time, everything I need,
. . . . . . . is in the “Last-Years” loose-leaf notebook.
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I use a combination of methods, but it’s actually pretty simple once I got it set up.
I keep a mid-sized notebook. When I get a bill, it goes straight into the notebook, on the month it’s due. On that page, I keep a list of my fixed costs, as well as a list of intermittent costs (i.e. birthday presents, hair cuts, etc). I also track how much income is due–both my paychecks and one-time sort of income such as business reimbursements, money people owe me, etc.
Each Monday, I spend about 5 minutes balancing my checkbook. I pencil in the new amounts (along with a date), and add up all the figures too see if I’m on target for the month or not. I prefer working in pencil, rather than on the computer, bc I can keep track of when I revise figures, by noting the dates when I change them.
I pay all of my bills online when I’m there checking my balance, so I don’t have to mail anything out–I don’t like to set up auto bill-pay, bc I like taking some time to review the bills and make sure there’s nothing hinky going on.
In addition to the “analog” notebook, I keep a yearly Excel budget. In this document, I also have spreadsheets tracking our mortgage, our savings, our car loan, etc. By simply entering the amount I will have left at the end of the month, I can quickly see if I’m still on track for the year overall. I find the computer works best for me for computing long term benefits, while the notebook works best for managing the daily/weekly changes.
In terms of breaking down my budget, besides the fixed amounts (child care, mortgage, etc), I figured out how much I “needed” in a given week for gas & spending money. It’s basically an envelope system without the envelopes–I just withdraw the spending money and use my card at the pump. As long as I don’t spend more than that weekly amount, I don’t bother tracking every penny. I also build a few “safeties” into my budget by budgeting for the high end of my typical costs. So on a month where I either have a few unexpected costs, such as joining friends for dinner, or when all my normal bills are on the high end, I’m fine, and on regular months, I usually end up with spare $$.
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I have a current (checking) account, with paper statements and online access, including bill pay. Regular expenses like rent come out of using automatic payments (direct debit), and my credit card is also paid off in full automatically on the due date from here.
This account is managed so that there is a float of about £1000 just before my pay comes in. Any excess gets swept to my instant-access savings. There are other savings, but they are longer term.
I only use my credit and debit card for what I term “exceptional” spending – which I have to know I have money free for, or transfer money in from savings for if it falls under the acceptable uses of savings (e.g. holiday I’ve been saving up for, emergencies).
All day-to-day spending is done in cash. I withdraw £50 each saturday, and that lasts me the week. At the end of the week, small change goes in the charity jar, and everything else goes in the “kitty”. The kitty funds can be used for anything at all. They actually tend to accumulate, so once the kitty exceeds £50, I take my weekly cash out of it, and note that on the “kitty register”, which is simply a note of how much kitty money is actually in my savings account (or will be on payday). Otherwise I end up with lots of cash lying around.
All my statements are on paper, and are filed in ring binders. Nothing gets filed until it is “reconciled” – I go over every transaction and tick it when I’ve matched it with a receipt or bill. I’ve picked up fraud twice by this method, when my bank missed it (small amounts both times, which were refunded).
The few bills that need to be paid get put on the keyboard, and paid online next morning.
This works for me, partly because I live a long way below my means. If I was advising someone who was in debt, or on a tight budget, I’d suggest keeping tight records of the amount of money available to be spent on debit/credit to ensure that the paycheck doesn’t run out, and possible to do a small transfer to savings after the paycheck comes in.
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I’ve found a pretty simple but effective system that works very well for me and helped me climb out of debt and build my emergency fund much faster than I thought possible when I was still deep in debt.
1. Automatic Savings
“Pay Myself First”, whatever you want to call it. The day after each paycheck, I have my bank setup to automatically put aside a certain dollar amount into savings. This comes out to roughly 40% of my take-home pay right now.
2. Automatic Bill Pay
Like you, I’ve automated as many bills as possible. This was a hard thing to get started on as I never felt confident I’d have the cash on-hand every month at the same time to pay my bills. But once I hit my financial stride, this was pretty easy.
3. Mint.com is the Dashboard to my Financial Life
Mint beats the pants off of every money management tool I’ve ever used. Quicken etc is great if you’re balancing a checkbook as in the olden days, but I found it very difficult to get useful INFORMATION out of it (Quicken is data-centric whereas Mint is information-centric). Charts, trends, transaction lists etc gave me the complete picture of my finances I needed to get out of debt and now build my wealth. There’s nothing more awesome than looking at the “Net Worth Over Time” graph to see the chart flip from red to green.
4. Shift Money to Hard-to-Reach Places
Whenever the savings account at my local bank hits a certain cash threshold, I take everything above my imposed minimum balance and move it into an ING Direct account. This has two advantages. First, higher interest rates so I earn a small bit on my money instead of it sitting doing nothing at the local bank. Second, that money is now essentially “gone” for the purposes of regular spending and only gets used very deliberately and after much consideration.
5. Accounts for Special Savings Targets
When there’s something my almost-wife and I want but it’s beyond what we normally have in on-hand cash, we set up a special account to save for a given goal. I use SmartyPig and have automated deductions going to it every month. This is how we’re getting a better TV, new computers (both of ours died and we’re sharing a laptop I’m borrowing from work). It’s working out great so far. I’m essentially treating future purchases as current bills so it fits into my system perfectly.
6. What’s left over is free to spend.
After I’ve paid the bills, done my savings and paid for other misc essentials like food, the rest of that money is “mine” to do with as I like. Now, if I see I consistently have a LOT left over at the end of the month, I usually adjust my automated savings (this is how I got to nearly half my take-home pay going into savings) accordingly.
If you look closely at any financial plan built around automated savings, automated bill pay etc, it’s really a plan about “spending” every penny that comes in, just that some of the spending is going to your own pocket.
Beyond this, I’ve started to play with minor investing, putting $50/month into a sharebuilder account spread between a few misc stocks and index funds. Right now, it’s more about learning how that works than making any real money.
In the next year, my goal is to add to this system maximum annual contributions to a Roth IRA.
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I get paid the first of the month. Most of my bills are due around the 7th of the month (I called up and switched things that weren’t a long time ago).
I use a credit card for everything I can. For things I can’t, I use a checkbook… and I must be the last person left on earth who balances it the old fashioned way using the check register. If I didn’t do that I would either have to keep a lot more in checking or I’d get lots of overdraft fees.
Like I said in the last post… Money comes in around the first, direct deposited. Bills come in all the time but they’re generally due at the beginning of the month after I get paid. I stick them in a pile during the week and process them every Saturday, which helps me with odd bills that aren’t due at the beginning of the month. They get put on a table near the mailbox with their due dates on the envelope and go out around the first of the month (unless due earlier). Retirement comes out before I get the paycheck. 529 gets taken out of savings on the 2nd.
I try to keep on month’s expenses in credit union savings (linked to the checkbook) at all times. If, after doing bills, savings is less than 1 month, we cut back on spending. If savings is more than 1 month, I put the extra into online savings. When there’s “too much” in online savings, I stick it in the stock market or CDs.
We don’t get paid regularly over the summer so in those months I move money from online savings to credit union savings at the first of the month.
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I wrote about my tracking system a few months ago. http://thepathlesstraveled.net/blog/2009/10/how-to-track-your-expenses/ It’s similar to yours except I use Google Spreadsheet instead of Quicken. Also, our cumulative data is saved in MySQL so we can easily (well to us) get the meta information we want.
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The system I have been using (with modifications) for about 10 years or so is fairly simple:
1. I have accounts at 2 banks: A local Credit Union (where my paychecks are automatically deposited) and at Charles Schwab (long term savings, investing, and a SMALL cash account with refunded ATM fees).
2. EVERYTHING I can pay for with my credit card is paid for with the credit card. I keep an eye on the balance and the transactions. I have a goal for the bill amount.
3. Anything that can be automated is. Recurring bills (mortgage and such) are paid by my CU’s bill pay. Variable bills except my credit card are paid via the credit card if they can be.
4. The remaining paper bills get put on my computer keyboard as soon as they come in. First thing I do on the computer is schedule the bills using the CU bill pay.
5. Almost all my bills are due in the second half of the month. The only thing due at the end is my credit card. I use the paycheck on the 15th to pay the bills leaving the rest in the CU savings account.
6. At the end of the month, I pay the credit card. Anything that is left over is sent to the Schwab account to be saved for a specific goal (retirement, housing, vehicle, emergency funds, etc.). If I fail to meet my credit card bill goal, in addition to feeling bad
I go through the expenses with a fine tooth comb and figure out why and how to correct it. Usually, for me, it is some major purchase that I really did not need to make. If I am under my goal I count it as a real good month.
You’ll note that I don’t use ‘Pay yourself first’. Its not a bad idea, but I have found that working to a total expenditures goal helps me to save more. You’ll also notice I use a credit card. That is because debit cards are evil.
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I’ve found a pretty simple but effective system that works very well for me and helped me climb out of debt and build my emergency fund much faster than I thought possible when I was still deep in debt.
1. Automatic Savings
“Pay Myself First”, whatever you want to call it. The day after each paycheck, I have my bank setup to automatically put aside a certain dollar amount into savings. This comes out to roughly 40% of my take-home pay right now.
2. Automatic Bill Pay
Like you, I’ve automated as many bills as possible. This was a hard thing to get started on as I never felt confident I’d have the cash on-hand every month at the same time to pay my bills. But once I hit my financial stride, this was pretty easy.
3. Mint.com is the Dashboard to my Financial Life
Mint beats the pants off of every money management tool I’ve ever used. Quicken etc is great if you’re balancing a checkbook as in the olden days, but I found it very difficult to get useful INFORMATION out of it (Quicken is data-centric whereas Mint is information-centric). Charts, trends, transaction lists etc gave me the complete picture of my finances I needed to get out of debt and now build my wealth. There’s nothing more awesome than looking at the “Net Worth Over Time” graph to see the chart flip from red to green.
4. Shift Money to Hard-to-Reach Places
Whenever the savings account at my local bank hits a certain cash threshold, I take everything above my imposed minimum balance and move it into an ING Direct account. This has two advantages. First, higher interest rates so I earn a small bit on my money instead of it sitting doing nothing at the local bank. Second, that money is now essentially “gone” for the purposes of regular spending and only gets used very deliberately and after much consideration.
5. Accounts for Special Savings Targets
When there’s something my almost-wife and I want but it’s beyond what we normally have in on-hand cash, we set up a special account to save for a given goal. I use SmartyPig and have automated deductions going to it every month. This is how we’re getting a better TV, new computers (both of ours died and we’re sharing a laptop I’m borrowing from work). It’s working out great so far. I’m essentially treating future purchases as current bills so it fits into my system perfectly.
6. What’s left over is free to spend.
After I’ve paid the bills, done my savings and paid for other misc essentials like food, the rest of that money is “mine” to do with as I like. Now, if I see I consistently have a LOT left over at the end of the month, I usually adjust my automated savings (this is how I got to nearly half my take-home pay going into savings) accordingly.
If you look closely at any financial plan built around automated savings, automated bill pay etc, it’s really a plan about “spending” every penny that comes in, just that some of the spending is going to your own pocket.
Beyond this, I’ve started to play with minor investing, putting $50/month into a sharebuilder account spread between a few misc stocks and index funds. Right now, it’s more about learning how that works than making any real money.
In the next year, my goal is to add to this system maximum annual contributions to a Roth IRA.
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-Automated savings. My 401(k) comes out pre-tax, obviously, but my Roth IRA payment is deducted automatically from my checking accout a day or two after payday. I don’t have time to forget it. Then regular savings (car fund, wedding fund, travel fund) is automatically taken out a day after that. It takes a number of additional steps for me to stop saving.
-Digital bills. All of my bills come to me by email, I leave them unread until I pay them, and I pay them online. The only physical bill I get is for rent, which is slipped under my door a few days before the end of the month.
-Track spending. I track every dollar. I’m not very good about doing it every single day anymore, but I catch up at least once a week. My fiance made a fabulous spreadsheet that helps me keep track of the balances in all my accounts and the cash in my wallet.
-Receipts. Receipts go in the “pickle jar” which is where we keep our household cash. If you take money out of the pickle jar, you have to either leave a receipt or an IOU.
-Regular meetings with myself. I have regular finance maintenance meetings with myself once a week. They take only about 20 minutes — balance the spreadsheet and compare to accounts, pay any bills, call and cancel promotional mailings from any company that’s still sending me junk mail, stuff like that. Keeping on top of it regularly helps the meeting not last so long, which makes it not as intimidating to do.
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I use YNAB. I would absolutely recommend it for anyone who wants to have complete control of his/her finances. I enter all things manually, though, because there are so many ‘funding’ categories that require frequent adjustments.
The only bills I have automated are my auto, homeowners, and life insurance payments and 2 cc’s (which are almost paid off – can’t wait!). I automate just the minimum payment on the cc’s just to make sure they’re never paid late; but I decide each month how much more I can put toward it and submit the extra payment online. I like to be able to adjust to account for variations in income.
I use my cc to track expenses and enter the transaction into YNAB as soon as it’s made so that I am always with enough $ to pay in full. This works really well since I get the added cc benefits such as extended warranty, insurance, and rewards.
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I finally organized my finances this year and it works for me because I can keep on top of it without spending a lot of time on it.
1) I set up Mint.com with budgets. Each time a bill — phone, cable, etc, goes over, Mint sends me an alert.
2) I get paid bi-weekly, so ING Direct takes out money for savings bi-weekly. My Roth IRA takes out at the end of the month. My student loans are also paid at the end of the month. The only other bills that aren’t covered by the credit card are gas and electric–I get online statements and I pay them as soon as they come in — electronically of course.
3) Everything else is billed to my credit card so I get points. This includes: cable, phone, internet, groceries, eating out, etc. This is easier for me because I have a monthly amount that I’m allowed to spend on my credit card and when i notice it getting close to this amount, I can scale back.
4)My two biggest expenses just come to rent, paid at the beginning, and my credit card, paid after my second paycheck comes in.
5) Any other paper bills that come in are paid according to when my paycheck lands and I keep a buffer in my checking account for these unexpected bills.
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I have been using Quicken ever since I bought my very first computer back in 1996. I also manage our business finances through QUickbooks. Any bill that comes in the mail is put into a folder. About once a week, I pay all of my outstanding bills online and enter anything into the software. Our biz finances tend to be a lot more involved w/ monthly & quarterly taxes and payroll, so I have a checklist of weekly, monthly and quarterly things that need to be done. This is posted at my desk and has helped me prevent anything slipping between the cracks.
I also created an easy excel spreadsheet for easy reference to our accounts, debts and financial goals.
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Thanks for the kind words, J.D.
The only thing that has worked for me is to have a goal of intense personal concern that I am pursuing with my money management efforts. There was a time when I was trying to save enough to be able to leave my corporate job and become a freelance writer. In those days, I was thinking about places to cut my budget when I was in the shower and when I was riding a bike and when I was waiting for a bus. It all happened without effort.
When I don’t have a particular goal in mind, things tend to slip. I tend to think that something like this is what is happening with you, J.D. You have more money now, so the concern about getting it right is not as great. So things naturally slip.
I see the saving goal as the driver of all money management decisions. You have to start with the question “What is it I am hoping to achieve with all this effort?” If that’s clear in your head, you will effortlessly do what it takes. Once the goal becomes fuzzy (“I’d like to be able to retire when I get old” is an extremely fuzzy goal to a 30-year-old), other priorities assume greater relative importance.
Rob
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Google calendar is the key! Create events for recurring bills with an (email) event reminder sent to yourself at least seven days before the bill is due. Don’t delete the email until the bill is paid (using bill pay of course!).
Also use automatic deposits to named accounts. I have at least three automatic deposits:
1 – joint household cash spending (groceries, dining etc).
2 – joint household recurring spending (mortgage, utilities etc.)
3 – savings (emergency fund, named accounts).
The remains are used for personal spending but when that account gets a little extra cash in it (100-200 dollars) it goes right into the savings account.
Trick is to deposit only what you’ve budgeted into the spending accounts. After a while you’ll find yourself trying to reduce/eliminate recurring expenses for things like dining.
Tracking every penny seems excessive but I can see how it works for some folks.
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I use an excel spreadsheet and track every penny. I pay all my bills as soon as I get them. It is a pretty simple system but it works for me.
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I’ll be the first to admit that my system is still growing and I have a lot of bad habits that need to be fixed (I only remember to keep a handful of receipts, for example), but even though I could be doing a lot more, what I’m doing now is letting me save quite a bit. So maybe my bare-bones “system” could be helpful for people just starting to figure out what works for them.
- I have a savings account and a checking account. Unless there’s a huge emergency or a big planned purchase, the money only goes one way: Checking==>Savings. I get paid once a week, and if there aren’t any outstanding checks that are waiting to clear (Rent and utilities are the only two that I have to pay by check, so it’s easy to keep track of my outstanding checks. Everything else is automatic and shows up on my account immediately), I will shove as much of my paycheck as possible into savings while keeping enough in my checking account to get by until the next paycheck (usually in the $100 to $500 dollar range, depending on my plans for the week).
- I’m not allowed to touch the savings unless it is an emergency (like a car repair that costs more than I thought or a medical bill), so in my brain the only money I have is the money in my checking account. I completely ignore the money in my savings account. It’s not there. Not allowed to use it. If I have too much money in my checking account, I am tempted to spend it, so I try to keep that number low, which keeps my spending in check.
- I have a couple credit cards with bonus cash/miles/etc, and I try to buy most of my stuff with those. However, instead of waiting until the end of the month to pay them off, if I have the money available this week I pay them off online immediately, so I don’t lose track of how much I owe and end up with a surprise at the end of the month.
The main component of this is “Savings account, checking account, put money from checking into savings every paycheck, then completely forget about savings account because you’re not allowed to use that money unless you really really have to.” It might be really obvious to a lot of people, but I’ve run into a ton of people my age (mid-20s) who have never had a savings account and live completely out of their checking account. If I had all my money in my checking account I would be tempted to SPEND that money. It’s an easy first step to start building savings.
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Hi all,
The method I started using about 5 years ago was one I learned at a wealth seminar where we were taught to allocate our income into “jars”. This, along with other things enabled me to become completely and utterly debt free (even mortgage) March of this year (woohoo!).
It works like this:
paycheck / income comes in
1. 10% goes into an account called Financial Freedom. This is essentially your “golden goose” that you use for retirement or passive income.
2. 10% goes to education: to educate yourself about finance, enhance your business skills etc.
3. 10% in long term savings: like a car (gently used of course), house down payment, new AC, kid’s braces. i.e. things you know are coming up and you can plan for them.
4. 10% into “play”. Every month, you blow this money on fun things. You treat yourself to the nicest things you can. Kind of a release valve for your mind.
5. 5% goes into charity that you donate without any expectation of getting anything in return.
6. The last 55% is used to pay bills, food. i.e. all necessities. If you have extra left over, move it to the financial freedom account. You might find that you run out of month before money, and have to get creative (Raman noodles for example!) but you learn quickly.
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As far as bill payments, like most here, they are automatically charged to my CC, which gives me cash back. I think I’ve mailed one bill payment this year (I can’t tell you how much a first class stamp is anymore), since everything can be done with my bank’s online bill payment system. My water utility bill is the only recurring bill I cannot automate (local government – go figure).
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I also created an excel tool several years ago to help me balance my account(s) and forecast my balances, which was very useful, especially when I ran into those pesky “challenges” and had to do some creative economics! Perhaps I can post it here for others to try out?
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Thanks for the forum. Wish I had learned this at school!!!! I hope to be able to contribute here and give to you what others have taught me.
Cheers,
Simon.
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I don’t like automatic bill-pay in the form where the company you’re paying “pulls” from your account – what if I cancel my service, and they “forget”? Withdraw the wrong amount? Too many potential headaches!
Instead, I minimize my bills by putting as much as possible – including my recurring payments – on my credit card (where at least I have a dispute mechanism should some of the problems I mentioned occur). Then, I use do an electronic transfer by “pushing” the money from my bank. For my cc, and the main recurring bill I can’t put on my cc, I set up recurring outgoing payments for a low estimate of what I tend to owe. That way, even if I forget, not only is it getting paid, but more than the minimum is.
When I get my bill, it goes by the computer, and next time I’m online, I update the amount (for recurring payments), or enter a future payment (for irregular payments). That way, I keep the money in the bank for an extra week or two, but I don’t have to think about it again. I do try to check my accounts shortly after the payment should go out, just to be sure, but I’m pretty bad about remembering to do that.
Oh, as for budgeting – I am OBSESSIVE about spreadsheets. I’ve taken PearBudget’s old spreadsheet (which I love) and put it on steroids, with extra sheets for allocating long-term savings, retirement accounts, etc. I actually find my very numerical approach useful not to reign in spending, but to give me permission to spend, as I am a compulsive saver.
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I have never been BAD with money, but I have struggled when my financial life became more complicated, like after I got married, graduated college, etc.
* The first thing I did was I WROTE A BUDGET (in Excel). I read a few articles to come up with likely categories. I then populated the budget with what I thought were reasonable numbers and added them up to make sure the total was less than we were bringing in. I made a note of all irregular expenses (like biannual car insurance or gifts) and had a scheduled transfer to savings from each paycheck (total annual expense/# of paychecks)
* This worked okay but there was a lot of stuff falling through the cracks and as our belts tightened (bought a new house, had a kid) I wanted better resolution to my spending. The first thing I did was I took our irregular spending fund and wrote a spreadsheet for it. I just took the numbers from my budget and copied them into another spreadsheet which would keep track of the ‘balance’ in any category. I don’t worry about overspending because I’m looking for averages. But this keeps me plugged into how much we are actually spending and IF OUR SPENDING ALIGNS WITH OUR BUDGET. If there isn’t enough we revisit the budget. I have an awful time tracking receipts, especially since my husband is supportive, but not overly cooperative. This serves the same purpose of knowing where my money goes.
* We wasted a LOT of money on food, especially during grilling season when my husband wouldn’t bat an eye on $30 in steaks for the two of us. So I put us on a strict cash diet for food and household items. This was tough and really hard to get used to. I allowed some extra money for the first couple weeks so I wouldn’t have to put stuff back, but it made me a lot lot lot more conscious of what food cost and where we could save money.
One tool I use that I haven’t heard anyone has something similar is a binder we call The Grey Book. It has a page for each debt. At the top it is all contact info (I never have to go searching for an old statement if I need to call or send in a payment) and the rest is a blank spreadsheet. Each time I make a payment I make a note of the date and the new balance. Behind each page is an amortization table (created at http://www.bankrate.com/calculators/mortgages/amortization-calculator.aspx if you need help creating a table for an existing debt let me know and I’ll walk you through it). I like this method because writing out the mortgage check can be painful, but it’s nice to see it also bring down my balance. I also play with this tool to see what would happen to my mortgage if I threw extra money at it. It can be a real motivator to pay things off.
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My husband and I simplified our financial systems several years ago and it’s worked great. First of all, we opted to combine finances–each to have a monthly allowance of fun money that is not itemized. Then, we appointed one person to manage the bill paying process.
We eliminated all credit cards and credit card debt and now we only use our debit cards for purchases. We set up a budget in Quicken and we pay our bills online through our bank. When the bill comes in, I schedule its payment right away, then toss the bill (or rather, recycle). Debit card receipts go into a basket and I enter them daily. Transfer to savings is an automatically monthly “bill”.
At the end of the month, we pull budget reports on Quicken and review them together–making tweaks if necessary.
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I also try to automate everything. Luckily, all of my bills have the option to be paid either by ETF or credit card. Very rarely do I use cash. The only time I use a check, is for church on Sunday. (BTW even churches are starting to take ETF’s from checking accounts)
At the end of the month, I total up all of my expenses in an spreadsheet (I modified the family budget doc in Google), track my net worth, and pay my goals first.
Seems to work for me, but not the only way you can handle your finances.
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A lot of people won’t like my system, either because they don’t trust it, or because they don’t feel like they’re doing enough. That’s why I like it, though, you never have to worry about it, it’s great.
1) Put *everything* on automatic bill payments.
2) Set all billing to electronic so you don’t get bills in the mail.
3) Automate regular transfers to savings accounts.
4) You’re done. Spend at will. Throw receipts in the trash. Just stop spending if your checking account balance drops below $1000.
This system is great. It lets you act like J.D. used to (if there’s money in my account, I can spend it on anything I want), but all your bills get paid and you build savings at the same time. You never even have to look at your bills. It’s the ultimate low-effort system.
How much did I spend on electricity last month? I haven’t the slightest idea, but I don’t care, because my checking account balance is still over $1000, I met my savings goals, and the electricity is still on, so things seem to have turned out fine.
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Here is what I started about 2 years ago and it works great. This system works best getting paid twice a month:
1) Sort all your bills by what time of the month they are due. Either group A) 1st – 15th and group B) 16th – 31st
2) We have two paychecks to work with – paycheck 1 (aprox the 15th) and paycheck 2 (aprox 30th). We use paycheck 1 to pay off group B and then paycheck 2 to pay off group A for the next month. I sit down on payday morning and pay all the bills from that group online at once.
3) Usually (for our bills anyhow) this usually splits up the amount of ‘bill’ money pretty equally from both checks. Sometimes with really large payments (like the house) I will split up half the amount due from the first check and then pay all the rest with the second.
4) I set up a second checking account that I transfer all the bill money to. We do not have a debit card or checks for it, so there is no way for us to accidentally spend it. I use that account number for the online payments and even though the account gets down to like $10, I know there is always enough to cover the bills I have coming out of it.
5) We have 3 different savings accounts through Smarty Pig and ING. I have them take a small amount out weekly instead of a large amount monthly. I know its the same amount in the end – but it somehow makes it seem like less of a big chunk and puts it more in perspective because it’s the same amount I might spend on lunch that day.
6) Finally I keep all of this written down in a ledger so that I know exactly what day everything is paid on and can check it off a list so I know all of that months bills are finished.
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I, too, used to shred insignificant receipts once they were entered into Quicken. That was until several months ago, when I noticed that the amount which appeared on-line was greater than the amount on a receipt which I still had! Apparently, the vendor had added a tip, which I’d paid in cash. To dispute the charge, I needed the receipt. So I have changed my practice: I enter the amount into Quicken right away, but do not shred the receipt until the amount appears on the Credit Card Company’s record.
Another thing I do is to set up bills for payment as soon as I receive them. The payment date is not until a few days before it’s due (a fail-safe so I can call it in if it doesn’t get processed). If a hand written check is involved, it goes into a basket on my desk which has birthday cards, etc, arranged by mailing date. I check the basket each morning to see whether there’s anything which needs to go into the mail that day. As you can surmise, I don’t like to pay interest for anything which depreciates…;-)
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“One tool I use that I haven’t heard anyone has something similar is a binder we call The Grey Book. It has a page for each debt. At the top it is all contact info (I never have to go searching for an old statement if I need to call or send in a payment) and the rest is a blank spreadsheet. Each time I make a payment I make a note of the date and the new balance.”
This is a good idea – we have something similar but it’s all on the same page. I might start an individual page for each debt. But it is VERY, VERY handy to have all of the info for each place you pay bills to (phone number, complete address, account #, no password though!) so that either one of us can pay the bill or don’t have to search down old statements to find out info.
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I use a macro approach. I create a master monthly budget, automatically deducting savings, retirement, and “adult allowance” out of my master checking account. Because any non-essentials come out fo the adult allowance(which I dont track formally, at least), its easy to see exactly where I’m spending the rest of the money.
I’ve started paying bills immediately after I receive them, either through a scheduled payment online or via writing a check instantly.
Someone asked what bills cant be paid electronically earlier in a comment. I would agree, except that the company that handles my car loan has no way to pay the car payment online, and a payment by phone costs $35. So you have to write them a check each month, which is ridiculous, but there you go. Some companies are still stuck in the 1950s.
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How did you find the methods and systems that help you manage your money effectively?
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I just created my own Excel spreadsheet. Nothing fancy, very simple but effective in that the sheet fits on my entire computer screen and I can see at a glance exactly where my money’s going. Every receipt goes into my wallet and I enter the info into the spreadsheet daily. Roth and 401 savings are automated and contributed weekly.
What sorts of people do you think they’d work for?
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My way of doing things works for me because I don’t like to be overly controlled and nit picky. People who just want to see the overall big picture probably do the same things I do.
And what options did you reject before picking the processes you use today?
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I rejected every single budgeting program out there. I found all of them to be way OTT in terms of dividing and sub dividing categories. A household bill is a household bill in my book whether it’s a utility or a dental payment or insurance. Personally I found subdivided categories to be too distracting. I keep it very basic, simple and at-a-glance and that is totally the one thing that has gotten me out of financial trouble.
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Great post – We also use what #9 alluded to, batching bills within a time period during each month. I have a note on my calendar to pay certain bills at month’s end (credit card, any miscellaeneous), and then the rest are on automatic bill pay. I also move any monies between accounts at the end of month. Pretty simple, but somehow it works for our house.
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