Ask the Readers: Methods for Effective Money Management?
Published on - June 17th, 2010 (by J.D. Roth) On Monday I confessed that since I stopped tracking my spending, I’ve actually had some trouble paying my bills. It’s not that I don’t have the money — I have plenty! — but that I no longer have a system in place to remind myself to take care of routine financial tasks. Quicken was my system, and when I stopped using it, order vanished.
In the comments on Monday’s post, Rob Bennett made an astute observation:
Good money management is not intellectually difficult. Nor does it connote moral superiority. It is all about habits. Some people get in good habits (for any of a hundred different reasons) and some people get in bad habits (for any of a hundred different reasons). And that determines how things turn out. We should be spending more effort figuring out what causes people to get into good habits and forget the rest of it, which is mostly just people talking.
And Shara wrote:
Maybe you could collect some methods people use and write a post about it. So many people starting out stumble around because “do what works for you” doesn’t work when you don’t have the experience to build a system that works for you. [...] “Track every penny” or “automate your bills” aren’t systems. They’re tools and ideas. Some people need a few more specifics.
I think Rob and Shara are on to something. There’s no one “right” way to manage your money. Instead, there are a bunch of different methods and systems that work for different people.
Today, let’s talk about the systems you use to manage your finances. Are they effective? What works and what doesn’t? What have you tried in the past that didn’t work? What would you recommend for folks just getting started?
As an example, here’s how I used to manage money, back when I was in debt. This system (or non-system, actually) didn’t work at all:
- I had no savings. None. I only had a checking account, and its balance was nearly always between $10 and $30. When I got money, I spent it. If I had none, I didn’t buy anything.
- I dumped my bills on a desk with all of the rest of my mail. I had a mental list of when things were due, but I didn’t do a good job of following through. I often mailed payments on the day they were due. (Though I was rarely, if ever, late.)
- Because I didn’t track my spending, I had to guess at my bank balance. Using the ATM balance as a starting point (this was back before online banking), I’d try to remember what checks I’d written and what purchases I’d made with my debit card. This was very imprecise.
- I was lazy. I got paid twice a month, but often wouldn’t deposit my paycheck for days. This wouldn’t have been a big deal except that (a) I was living paycheck-to-paycheck, and (b) I’d often already mailed bill payments based on the new paycheck. As a result, I suffered from frequent overdrafts.
- I treated credit cards as a sort of sneaky way to buy things when I didn’t have the money. I had several credit cards, which were nearly always maxed out. And when they weren’t maxed out, it was only because I hadn’t found anything to buy.
Basically, I had no control over my financial life. It never occurred to me that I ought to have control.
Now things are mostly different. Obviously, I still struggle with organization, which is why I managed to have a late payment of $23.23 to the hospital. But as I said, I think that error is due to the fact that I recently abandoned the system I’d been using for the past five years or so. Here’s the system that worked for me as I dug out of debt and started building wealth:
- I automate as much of my financial life as possible. This means I set up automatic payments where that’s an option, and I request electronic statements instead of paper statements.
- I use my cash-back credit card for as many purchases as possible. For everything else, I try to use my debit card. I only write a few checks a month now, and the only cash I use is my “adult allowance”, for which I don’t keep detailed records.
- I use my wallet to collect all of my receipts.
- I gather all of my bills and financial documents into one location (usually next to my computer).
- Once a week (sometimes once every two weeks), I sit down to enter all of my data into Quicken. (I chose Quicken because that was the only option for the Mac when I started keeping track of my expenses; you should choose whichever program best fits your needs.)
- Once I’ve “done Quicken”, I shred the unimportant documents. I use a document scanner to digitize the important stuff, and then I shred most of that, too.
- Some documents (like tax forms) end up in our fire-proof safe (purchased cheap at Costco).
- I have three sets of accounts: my everyday checking account at the local credit union, a set of savings accounts (each with a different purpose) at ING Direct, and my retirement accounts (both Roth IRA and 401(k) at Fidelity). I regularly transfer surplus cash from my credit union to the appropriate ING Direct account. And a couple of times per year, I make deposits to my retirement accounts, based on what I think I can afford.
While this may not seem like much of a system, it works for me — or did until I tried to mess with it. That’s why I’ll be going back to the way things were; I feel like I’ve lapesed into a bad habit.
My financial success has been all about replacing my bad habits with good ones, but I did a lot of stumbling around before finding methods and systems that worked for me. My habits still aren’t perfect, and probably never will be, but they’re enough to keep me in positive cash flow while also setting aside money for retirement and giving me a bit to spend on today.
What about you? How did you find the methods and systems that help you manage your money effectively? What are those methods and systems? What sorts of people do you think they’d work for? And what options did you reject before picking the processes you use today?
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Some very interesting and useful comments here. Thanks everyone who wrote in what they do.
I do some similar things in my own way. I used to be a cash-only kinda guy, but recently switched to a cash-rewards credit card. (I agree with the poster who said the debit cards are evil). Normally, I try to use the cash rewards CC for all purchases. And why not. Every year I get more than one rewards check in the mail automatically just by making regular purchases.
I keep all receipts from the credit card in an envelope and when the CC bill comes in, I reconcile all receipts with the listing in the bill. Then I schedule the payment online for the day before it is due. Then the receipts get moved to the envelope which has the current year’s paid receipts.
When I schedule the CC bill, I enter (ie, subtract) it from my check register.
I have some utilities directly bill the credit card. No hassle, and it counts to my cash back rewards. Some utilities allow payment by CC without fees. These get paied by CC.
All bills (and utilities that want a fee to pay by CC) are scheduled in online banking when they arrive, and I subtract them in the check register when they are scheduled.
I pay almost all bills online, but have very few that pull from the checking account, mortgage is one that does. I have automatically scheduled (ie, push) some monthly payments from my checking account, such as donations, extra mortgage payment, and automatic mutual fund purchases.
When I enter things in my checking register, I ignore the cents. I only enter full dollars. I find that it saves a lot of time and the balance is “close enough” with the check account statement. Once or twice a year, if all monies are accounted for, I change my register’s current balance with the one from the bank’s statement.
I have direct deposit for my paycheck, but recently I found out I can have it go to more than one institution. So I have 35% go directly into a high-yield savings account at an online-bank. 65% to my checking. Regular bills get paid from my checking. I also have a money market account linked to checking for transfer if I need some money for an unexpectedly large bill, or have a way to push some money to savings if the checking account looks too fat.
Each month I also purchase with a check some additional stock from a list of companies I have dividend investment accounts. I rotate to the next company each month. Meanwhile, even if I don’t get to any one company for months, the equity keeps growing because each quarterly dividend is kept in their plan to buy more shares. I do have a spreadsheet file with a page for each company I have stock in, and I track every transaction (purchase or reinvestment), and I keep a running total on the total market value (which of course varies), and the current quarterly income and a projected annual income (quarterly times 4).
I like this spreadsheet, because I have clear estimate of my projected income from investments. Nice to have when considering my financial condition regarding the future retirement.
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I used to use a pretty complicated excel spreadsheet (complete with cashflow projections 12 months ahead), but I graduated to Microsoft Money. I have used a couple different versions of it over the years, and while I hate the delays/slowness of the latest version of the program, I LURVE the control it gives me and the fact that I don’t have to hand calculate cashflow projections.
I have all our bills programmed in, and I check the program on a regular basis (1-2 times a week) for reminders on what’s due and to enter receipts. I have most of our major bills automated/scheduled, and the rest I pay online when the bills come due (because I’m too cheap to pay the fee for automating payments for electric/gas bills!). Since I tend to keep our checking account balance relatively low (I do temporary transfers into one of our ING accounts so we can accrue a little bit extra here & there), I also enter any non-budget expenditures into the upcoming bills list in Money so I can check the cashflow projections and make sure we’ve got enough to cover it. I have never paid overdraft fees, and I don’t plan to start anytime soon! (*knocks on wood*)
One thing I can’t stress enough – the cashflow projection feature is awesome. It helped me to plan out exactly how much money I need to put aside every week to save up enough to pay for the rest of my masters degree, or how much to set aside each month so we can have a christmas gift budget, etc.
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Someone just mentioned not including cents when doing the checking account balance. I do the same thing, but I always round up. That way I don’t have to worry about ever being short and it adds up, so there’s always a little bit of “personal overdraft protection” just sitting there in my checking account.
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I use Mobile Checkbook on my Blackberry to keep track of what goes in and out of each account – no checkbook balancing!! I use Windows Calender to schedule payments, and open it with each payday. I pay bills as soon as the money is available, at least 2-3 weeks ahead of the due date.
My biggest problem is that I spend way too much on fast food! I’m addicted to expensive, high-sodium junk, even realizing that it’s a huge waste of money.
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I’ve been using MS Money pretty much since it came out. In the late 90′s I was able to use the auto download feature to update my accounts and never looked back. I’ll be sad when the auto update feature goes away next January. I tried some of the other suggestions from a post last year about MS Money going away, but nothing works as well for me as I like the register/cashflow feature as well as the auto-update feature and nothing else appears to have both.
I get paid twice a month and “hold” the check from the 15th (my paychecks are auto-deposited) until the last day of the month and then I sit down and “Pay” the entire next months bills and savings transfers in the register. All of my bills are auto-withdrawn from my account whenever they are due, but at all times I know exactly how much I have left after the bills are paid and I spend money through out the month. If an odd-ball bill comes in during the month, I pay it right then. I also use Mint since it does a great job with a high overview of all my accounts – including my the 401K from my job – and the reports… if it had a register/cashflow feature, it would be perfect!
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I use a simple spreadsheet. The first page is an overview of my finances by month (including debt, savings, etc.) so that I can see the big picture at a glance and where I am now compared to the beginning of the year.
Then there is a page for each month, and it denotes all my paydays – dates and amounts, since they vary, and all of my regular monthly expenses. I include the due dates as well so that I know when it needs to be paid. I have space for extra expenses, and a cell that adds it all up and tells me if I’m positive or negative for that month.
All my bills are paid online, and most are received online too (I think I only get one paper bill these days).
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For most of our marriage, my husband was a student or in training, so for 15 years we just got by, spending everything on our day-to-day expenses and saving nothing.
Now my husband is self-employed and our generous income fluctuates by a lot. It has taken several years, but I have finally adjusted my accounting methods to a more workable system. More money means everything is a lot more complicated, but I have sought to simplify where I can.
We receive one paycheck per month, on the 15th, and I spend the next week doing budget stuff and debiting all automatic transactions (the ones that I do not control, such as insurance) that will come though before the next paycheck. All of my transfers and recurring billpay transactions are set for the 25th. When I am less busy I pay bills as they arrive. Otherwise I pay them weekly, storing them in a little basket in my kitchen.
My favorite tool is a manila sleeve. Each Monday, I begin with a new sleeve, and I print out and tape on a register (made on Excel) for my personal account and another for my business account. On the backside of the sleeve, I tape my budget (also Excel) for that 15th to 15th period (this is where I am still tweaking my system). Inside the sleeve, I keep receipts, blank checks and some cash. At the end of the week, the sleeve, receipts, and registers go neatly into a banker’s box.
Part of the reason I think this works for me is that when it is time to make a new sleeve, I **have** to pay all accumulated bills and reconcile my accounts. Another reason is that I am not very good at deciding which receipts to keep and which to toss. Instead of being paralyzed with indecision, I just keep them all, and they are organized enough that I can search through as needed.
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I’m still struggling (though I like to think I get better) and I use Excel for tracking.
And just had the epiphany after reading here that of my 1600 EUR 900 EUR alone go to our joint rent account and another 200 EUR to food every month, which is already beyond the 50% for needs without having bought anything else! So it’s no wonder that I have problems to make extra savings and pay back the leftover (small but annoyingly stable) debts although I freelance for extra income
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I have a serious problem with paper clutter.
Like many of the posters, I automated the recurring bills that have the same balance every month and went to e-statements.
The other MAJOR thing that helped was reducing junk mail. When you only have bills or fun mail to sort, the bills don’t get lost in a pile.
Even if you’re good about sorting and throw your junk directly into the recycling bin, it still takes extra time. What if you’re on vacation and you come back to a 3 inch stack of mail (the straw that broke this camel’s back).
I made a junk folder and put the back cover of the junk (where your name and customer number is) into the folder. In my down time (watching tv, etc), I’d call these companies and request to be taken off their lists. I keep a spreadsheet of the calls so that I can complain about repeat offenders. I also opted out of mail through DMAchoice.org.
I’ll tell you that it took over a year of calls to have virtually junk free mail to come in and it’s divine.
This is worth a whole post on it’s own as there are all kinds of ways for companies to get around the DMAchoice thing (eg. if you’re an existing customer to a mortgage company, credit card, airline rewards, charity..they often sell your name to “partners”)
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I have been using quicken for at least 8 years now. I never bother with tracking cash transactions – I just call them “cash”. I try to do everything electronically (credit card or online bill pay). This allows me to easily download everything into quicken without much effort. I never bother reconciling receipt or even keeping them. It’s just not worth the time to me. I notice if a transaction looks odd.
All this tracking didn’t do much for me for most of those 8 years because I wasn’t doing anything with the information. About 2 years ago, I started creating a quarterly report for me and my husband to review together.
Using the data in quicken and some excel charts and graphs, I present:
* Net Worth over time
* Debt
* Savings (emergency, discretionary, retirement, college)
* Spending Trends (compare biggest categories monthly versus previous year)
* Performance Against Goals (Saving and Spending Reduction)
* Upcoming Major Expenses
* Discussion Points
We set our goals at the beginning of the year and refine them once a quarter. I would say this effort (once I had a system in place) takes me about 2-4 hours a month. It pays off in the thousands.
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My husband and I can tell you what’s in our checking account, to the penny. We are both gmail users. Gmail allows you to have “shared” documents. We have a “shared” excel file that is just a basic ledger of funds in and out. We have a column titled “X”. We go through all the bills we need to pay for the month and list them. If it’s an estimate, we put an “E” in the X column. Once the check hits the mailbox, I put in a “/” and once it clears, we use an X. It’s a ledger and a forecast. It’s nice using the google documents, since we can both see the ledger at anytime (even from our cell phones). We also have a document that we created called “Calendar”. We got sick of ‘double booking’ ourselves
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My folks started me off on the ¨envelope¨ method (ie. one for saving, spending, etc). Now I am a big fan of keeping it automated but very low key- not much for keeping detailed lists and accounts. Also, living in a foreign country puts retirement in perspective- I´m still not quite sure what to think. People here are content to live month to month…
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I use a combo notebook/spreadsheet to track all income and expenses and a spreadsheet to balance my checking account. The second is a real worry-breaker since I know how much cash I have available. I track upcoming recurring bills on a monthly calendar for reference. Two more months till debt freedom!
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Automatic bill payments.
My payments are so automated that I could be in a coma and, as long as there was money left in my account, all the bills would still get paid.
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I’m still not at where I want to be but here’s my current situation:
- Like you, automate as much as possible. What you didn’t mention and I do is also automate the money that goes into savings. Think right now it’s only $50/mo but that’s $50 more than if I depended on myself to add it
- All bills are paid as soon as possible after each pay day. There’s no reason to wait if a bill has to be paid sometime in that two week period.
- Give myself an allowance. Usually it’s $60/wk but have been trying $40/wk and grabbing more if needed. Obvious problem is when I get more I get another $40 so it ends up being $80/wk. I need to be more strict on this. Like taking out a certain amount on a specific day and only that day.
- I finally paid off two old credit cards that were inactive because I disputed their finance charge hikes. My main credit card does carry a balance but I make it a point to pay at least whatever I charged that month plus whatever else I can add. Aside from my monthly condo fee–which is the only thing I still write a check for–this is the only non-automated bill I have.
While this works it has flaws. First, I use mint to track everything. I don’t really have a “budget” per-se. I just periodically check my spending and make sure it’s less than what I’m making. What I want to do is look into multiple savings accounts. Then I can put $50/mo towards that new must-have gadget.
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Multiple systems:
Bill paying:
I pay bills twice a month, I work off our spending plan (kinda like a budget by not really) and note the bills that are auto paid, note the savings that is auto transferred, etc. Non-automated bills get paid by check and non-recurring bills get added to the plan for that month and paid by check. I don’t normally set up auto payments for non-recurring bills.
Tracking:
I track our spending using Quicken, we mostly use debit so it is easy to download the transactions right into Quicken.
I use networthiq.com to track our net worth, normally update it when I pay bills. I track our 2010 savings goals using an Excel chart. We used a similar Excel chart when we are paying off debt, we are debt free except for our mortgage so our focus is on savings.
Allowance:
We work off an allowance system and as a result restrict the amount of money available to each of us, so in order for that to work, I have to stay on top of our balances which I do by checking once a day during the week first thing in the a.m. I balance the checking account for allowance accounts once a week.
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GRS has helped me find my system, after floundering for a long time. I was always overdrawn, always spending more than I made, even tho I kept track of every cent and had been trying various budgets for years. In February this year, after finding Wesabe thru one of your articles, I had an amazing realization. I Don’t Make What The Budget Tells Me I Make!
The budget spreadsheets I’ve been using for years take my yearly income and divide it by 12 – simple right? Wrong. I get paid every other week, so I’m only making 2 paychecks most months, with an extra check only 2 months out of the year. Even tho the difference was only a couple hundred dollars averaged out over the year, it meant I was constantly dipping back into my savings to cover my routine expenses, never ever coming out ahead. When I finally adjusted my cash flow to match my actual income for 10 months out of the year, I was able to get clear. The bank account and the budget finally say the same thing. You have no idea what a huge relief this has been!
Rookie Mistake, I’m sure – but I’ve been trying to ‘track every penny I spend’ and ‘spend less than I earn’ for over a decade, feeling like a financial failure thru three different jobs and two houses.
I still have a dual system:
paycheck, subtracting deductions and bills every two weeks, to calculate what I’m living on for that two weeks (I keep a running tally on a post-it stuck to my bank debit card)
budget, uploading from my Credit Union website to Wesabe, categorizing my spending, and keeping an eye on my targets each month
But, while they don’t overlap chronologically, they finally match up and I’m seeing my savings grow. Thanks for all your Tips, GRS and JD!!
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I am tactile, I like paper and I still use a checkbook.
That said, I do use a credit card for many of my purchases. To track my checking account balance, I use a free envelopes-style excel spreadsheet from It’s Your Money over at www(at)mdmproofing(dot)com. One of my “envelopes” is my credit card – so whenever I make a credit card purchase, I transfer the money from whichever other envelope it is in and move it to the credit card envelope. Then when the credit card statement comes, I actually pay what I’ve spent – and yes that means I’m paying ahead of the statement date. This just works for me. I get a weekly cash allowance that I can blow wherever and don’t have to account for – this also works for me. I’ve got the monthly budget divided into 2 sets of bills and I sit down to pay them twice a month (as many online as possible). This works for me. The only thing that isn’t working at the moment is that I’m not tracking what I’m spending (though the budget is fine) and haven’t tracked it since taking a Crown Financial class back in the mid-90s. My guess is that if I’d track the spending for a few months, I’d find ways to cut and save money. Just haven’t come up with a way to get myself to do this yet. The Crown class gave me accountability.
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For anything not set up on auto bill pay, I annoy myself into remembering. Paper bills are left propped against my tv screen or laptop until they’re paid and emailed bills are not marked as Unread until they’ve been handled.
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1) Automated Weekly Savings
2) ING Targeted Savings
3) Excel Spreadsheet (Income tracking, High level Annual & Quaterly Snapshot)
4) Keep Green Money Journal (Write down observations about my household’s journey to wealth, quick tips from PF podcasts, savings goals)
5) Write down Short Term goals and post them
6) Read about 10 personal finance classics to educate myself about foundational concepts
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My wife and I went to the “envelope” method about a year ago, and we quickly noticed a difference. We went from living paycheck to paycheck and having a hard time sticking to a budget to quickly having money left over each week and building up a savings.
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Wow… Fascinating, reading about everyone’s financial systems.
I approach my finances with this philosophy – no budgets, think before you spend, have a plan going forward.
Here’s how I look at it. I am allowed to spend on whatever I want as long as the following conditions are satisfied –
1. I am paying my bills on time, and not incurring ANY bank fees or any other kind of monetary grief from my payees, banks, credit card companies
2. My savings needs are being met
3. My cash flow projections are trending upward
I would describe the mechanics of my system as a past, present, future system.
- To look at past activity, I download all the transactions in my credit cards, checking and savings accounts about once a month, or at the most once in two months, and upload it all back into Wesabe. Wesabe is similar to Mint, except it does not ask for / store any passwords (beware of Mint’s claims that they don’t store passwords – technically *they* don’t store it, but a company they work with does store your IDs and passwords). I went through my upload activity once to tag my spending categories so Wesabe now tags most things automatically. I usually go pretty specific on the tagging – as in coffee, music, ebooks (instead of “dining out”, “entertainment” etc) so that I know how much I spend on my ‘wants’ on average. The features in Wesabe let me go back and view my average spending in that category in the past month vs months prior to that. If I see a significant spike, I’ll go in and take a look, evaluate, see if my behavior needs changing. If not, fantastic, moving on.
- For the present, I’ll try to live in balance as much as possible. If I’ve already been to Starbucks twice this week, maybe I don’t need to go today. If I’ve been four times already, then I’ll definitely not go today, and probably bring my coffee from home at least twice next week. Or if I’ve already purchased two books this month, I can maybe check out the library or browse the blogs to get my reading fix. I don’t keep to a specific number in a category – I’ll just do my best to avoid both depriving myself and overindulging in what I usually spend on.
- For the future, if I’m purchasing a big ticket item (say a laptop this month, or a vacation later this year, or a car next year), I have a cash flow projections model in Excel that I use as a planning + motivational tool.
Here’s where the Wesabe system that accounts for past activity comes in handy. I look at the total sum of all the accounts (checking + saving – credit cards) as my ‘ending balance’ of the month. I’ll take the number from December 2009, and enter it as my beginning balance for January 2010. Then I’ll plot out my expenses. My “fixed” spending is a sum of my average spending categories (coffee, music, dining out, books, movies etc) and the same number gets picked up in that line for the rest of the year. I don’t go back and track how much I overspent or underspent in one category as that lump-sum should’ve taken care of all my wants for that month. I have two other lines for my major loan payments, so I can plot my payoff dates out on another related sheet.
The “variable” spending area is where it gets interesting. I have another section of the spreadsheet where I can enter the projected date when I will have a big ticket expense (say, September 2010 – Laptop purchase – $1000). This amount gets picked up automatically by the projection model in the month that I’m planning the expense in, and this updates the cash balance I will have at the end of the year. You will not believe HOW AWESOME a motivational tool this is. I can enter in all manner of big ticket items, replicate this system for this year, next year, the year after that – and know how much I can hope to have in my bank if I continue my current spending behavior. I can easily plot out salary raises, insurance payments, all manner of spending scenarios, vacations, loan payoff scenarios, EVERYTHING. If I have an unexpected expense today, I can see the effect of it going forward immediately, and in response, delay some other big ticket expense by a few months. The beginning balance of the next month is an “IF” statement that picks up the previous months balance unless I have input an “actual balance” in the line below it. I’ll look at my Wesabe balance and ‘true up’ every couple of months, and that puts my projections right on track going forward.
Oh, and my bills are all completely automated – even my credit card bills which are not the same amount every month. I’ll give a 5-8 day cushion to most automatic bill-pays since even payments scheduled around Thanksgiving or Christmas bank holidays will settle in a 5-8 day period. I am still looking at my tags in Wesabe to watch for any weird fees or other unexpected payments, and the payments from my checking to the credit card cancel each other out, so I’m not double counting my expenses. The one thing I check like a hawk is bank fees – if I ever see even a dollar, I will hunt it down and get it cancelled. That’s a policy I don’t ever plan to waver from.
Most importantly, I’m not freaking out on a daily basis over record keeping, I’m still on target with paying off loans, saving, increasing my bank balances and I’m happily consuming all manner of gadgets, lattes, movies without guilt. I would highly recommend trying this out if this philosophy sounds like something you can live with.
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How did I find my current money management methods? By trial and error.
* Used to use Quicken, but got tired of having to buy new and ever-more-bloated software every couple of years. So this January I switched to Excel. It’s a little more hassle but works fine, given that I didn’t use Quicken to track investments or pay bills.
* All deposits are automated, except for a few checks from clients who don’t want to or can’t do EFTs.
* Transfers to savings are automated.
* All bill payments are made through EFTs. Some — the utilities and the long-term care insurance — are automated.
* Bank statements are reconciled in Excel once a month. It’s only slightly less convenient than to do this in Excel than in Quicken — I mark cleared transactions by changing the font color from black to indigo blue.
* Tax-related items are flagged in the “memo” column, so that creating a year-end tax report is easy to do.
* Credit-card charges are tracked against the current month’s budget in a separate Excel spreadsheet — each transaction is subtracted from this month’s budgeted amount, so I can see at a glance how much I have left to spend.
* Investments are tracked in a different Excel workbook.
* Paycheck statements are stored as PDFs and in hard copy.
* Copies of tax returns are kept permanently. These now occupy two file drawers!
* Receipts for what I call “junk purchases” are dropped into a file folder and kept for about three months, until I’m sure stuff doesn’t need to be returned; then they’re shredded or burned in the fireplace.
* Receipts for major purchases, such as household appliances or computers, are kept indefinitely.
* Tax-related receipts are stored separately, for seven years. Because all tax-related transactions take place on credit cards, credit-card statements are stored long-term.
* Bills from any dicey vendors, such as telecommunications companies, are also stored separately and kept for quite a long time.
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I started to post my methods, but it quickly turned into a book-length post.
Simply put, I use various custom excel spreadsheets that have been modified over the years as a need arised. Learning to write formulas in excel has helped me to control my spending, saving and investing.
I also use Quicken for keeping track of all my accounts including credit cards. I keep all my credit card receipts and enter them daily or weekly.
I pay all my bills 7 days before they are due with BillPay from my checking account except for my credit card. The bank doesn’t need to know my credit card account number.
I save any money that is not spent or invested in an online savings account.
I burn all my bills and receipts after 6 months in my outdoor patio fireplace.
I scan my bank, credit card and investment statements (after reconciling) and save them on 2 seperate external hard drives, then burn the originals.
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my wife and i use the pear budget to track our expenses … fantastic system and it really showed us where our money was going and how we could better manage it.
we watch dave ramsey all the time, and that helps with being motivated to knock out the debt.
my wife and i talk about money all the time and we have savings goals. having discussions and goals will lead to positive talks.
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We are old-fashioned in our ways of watching expenditures/savings. We keep very aware of what we spend every day. We get paid once a month by direct deposit and deduct the mortgage from the register. We have money taken out automatically for savings. We pay utility bills twice a month by check. By the end of the month, we see how much money we have and use that to pay the credit card bill or put into savings. We don’t spend on frivolous items. Once a year, we do like to plan a trip as our vacation. To do this, we calculate how much it will cost in gas/food/lodging and decide how many days we will stay to make sure it’s affordable. It is usually a 3-5 day trip. Basically, we’re aware of how much money is coming in and going out and make sure that all the bills are paid first. We’re not high-tech at all about this!
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I love Arti S’s comment. S/He has taken out all of the neurosis!
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Here’s what works for me:
1) Automate every bill payment possible except for paying my credit card balance. I first route bills to my credit card, if that’s not an option straight to my bank account. I receive an email when my credit card statement is due and I quickly log in and pay the balance.
2) Use a cash back credit card (first choice) or no fee debit card (second choice) for all purchases so that the transaction will be recorded on my statement. I never save reciepts (unless I anticipate a possible return or problem with the purchase).
3) A monthly reminder in my google calendar emails me when it’s time to update my monthly income statement and net worth.
4) I keep my income and net worth statements in a spreadsheet and use the information contained in my online banking statements, online credit card statement, and Google Finance Portfolio to update all of my income, expenses, and asset values (would also do liability values but I’m fortunate not to have any). I’ve tried using more automated systems like Quickin, but I prefer to enter the numbers manually. I’m weird like that. Purchases made in cash do not get recorded on the spreadsheet, but ATM withdrawls do so I know how much I spend in cash (very little), just not exactly what I spend it on (although I have a good idea).
4) I also have several automated savings/investing contributions, although I’ll be the first to admit that I should revisit and tweak these as they’ve become a bit unkempt.
5) I keep a lazy eye on the market and when there is a nice dip I make an extra contribution to my balanced index fund based on extra money that I have sitting around.
This process has evolved over the past 10 years or so. I’ve always been naturally drawn to tracking my spending, so I guess I’m lucky! I can understand how other’s see it as a chore, but I really think it’s kind of fun.
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I’ve been evolving my system for about the last 10 years. It works great for me, especailly because I like to do everything online.
1) Pay for everything possible on my cash back credit card. Second choice is the no fee debit card.
2) All bills except the payment of my credit card are automated. I try to have them linked to the credit card but if that’s not possible I link to my bank account.
3) I recieve an email from my credit card when the statement is ready. I log on immedietly and pay the balance.
4) I set my Google Calendar to automatically email me a reminder at the begining of each month to fill out my income and net worth statement.
5) I use the online statements from my banks/credit card and my Google Finance Portfolio to update my monthly income statement and net worth statement. These are done by hand in a spreadsheet in a format that I picked up in accounting class. I’ve tried using automated products but I actually like doning it by hand as it gives me time to reflect on the month’s financial activity.
6) Items purchased in cash do not get tracked, although I track ATM withdrawls so I know generally how much cash I’m using, but not exactly what it’s used for.
7) Contributions to savings and investments are made automatically.
The reason that this works for me is that 1) it’s pretty easy. I’ve automated everything that I care to automate so I never have to worry about late bill payments. And 2) the only labour intensive parts are things that I actually enjoy. I like tracking my spending by hand so I do it. If I found it tiresome I’d go back to using Mint of Quicken.
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What REALLY Helps me to keep my money in control:
1.) I ALWAYS track my spendings on an excel spreadsheet. I have categories like: Groceries, entertainment, transportation, etc, and EVERY DAY I track my spendings. It takes 2 minutes and saves me a lot of head aches.
2.)I have an accordion style file system and I file all of my bills and color code them, so I remember when they are due. Red is due in a week, yellow in 2 weeks etc.
3.) I also started a ROTH IRA and emergency savings account. I put $50 on each every month. It doesn’t sound as much, but it adds up.
4.)Another thing I do, I always make my car payments every week instead of monthly. That alone saves me money on my interest.
That’s pretty much it, my system is simple, but it works for me
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This is a really interesting topic due to the fact that as J.D. said, there is no one “right” way to manage your finances. My methods have evolved for the last four years (since I got married and actually had finances to manage). Originally I would stare at Quicken for an hour almost every day, making sure everything was up to date and correct. This however was a complete waste of time because I was stressing out about it way too much.
Now I update my budget (YNAB) about once or twice a week. I’m so much less stressed and it takes half the time. And now that there is an iPhone app I update it even less.
In the case of my bills I only pay them every two weeks. Any financial related mail gets put in a pile in the office and I go through it all when I pay my bills. That is my system, but it wouldn’t necessarily work for everyone.
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I try to sort thing with the “Getting Things Done” method plus evrything that can nbe automated is. This way I can simplify a lot of things.
Anyway the secret of all is just discipline. Belive me, I learned it the hard way.
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