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	<title>Comments on: Gaming The System: Score Points With Your Savings</title>
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		<title>By: El Nerdo Loco</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2010/11/01/gaming-the-system-score-points-with-your-savings/comment-page-1/#comment-914752</link>
		<dc:creator>El Nerdo Loco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Nov 2010 21:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>update: sorry, after doing some research, i found this: the iphone emulator/simulator only works if you have the original source code, before it gets compiled for the iphone&#039;s ARM processor.  so i won&#039;t run on a regular mac or pc (unless you&#039;re writing your own apps).

however, no need for an iphone to get epic win-- the ipod touch runs the same software at a lower price and without service contracts, data charges, etc., etc..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>update: sorry, after doing some research, i found this: the iphone emulator/simulator only works if you have the original source code, before it gets compiled for the iphone&#8217;s ARM processor.  so i won&#8217;t run on a regular mac or pc (unless you&#8217;re writing your own apps).</p>
<p>however, no need for an iphone to get epic win&#8211; the ipod touch runs the same software at a lower price and without service contracts, data charges, etc., etc..</p>
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		<title>By: El Nerdo Loco</title>
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		<dc:creator>El Nerdo Loco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2010 15:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Sierra

RE: EPIC WIN

Sounds like a lot of fun! I&#039;ve never liked &quot;quest&quot; type video games because they seem to me a lot like a job with no salary.  Now this makes work a game-- but the results are real, not just virtual.

Anyway, I don&#039;t think that you need to look for a computer game that does this.  Rather, look for an IPHONE EMULATOR that you can use to run your app.

I haven&#039;t had a chance to find one yet, but there are plenty out there.  Just google &quot;iphone emulator&quot; or &quot;iphone simulator&quot; and you&#039;ll find all kinds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Sierra</p>
<p>RE: EPIC WIN</p>
<p>Sounds like a lot of fun! I&#8217;ve never liked &#8220;quest&#8221; type video games because they seem to me a lot like a job with no salary.  Now this makes work a game&#8211; but the results are real, not just virtual.</p>
<p>Anyway, I don&#8217;t think that you need to look for a computer game that does this.  Rather, look for an IPHONE EMULATOR that you can use to run your app.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t had a chance to find one yet, but there are plenty out there.  Just google &#8220;iphone emulator&#8221; or &#8220;iphone simulator&#8221; and you&#8217;ll find all kinds.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Nov 2010 16:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with you Sierra, it is harder for me to feel the &quot;wins&quot; now that all our debt (except mortgage) is gone. I think it has a lot to do with seeing a definitive end to the goal when you have debt. )The M in SMART goal setting - measurable.) 

Saving is not as measurable (for me at least) when you&#039;re just dumping it into savings account each month or transferring it to a Roth IRA. I think that is because it is so automated (and ingrained) for me now. Maybe I need to just step back each month and celebrate exactly what we&#039;ve saved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with you Sierra, it is harder for me to feel the &#8220;wins&#8221; now that all our debt (except mortgage) is gone. I think it has a lot to do with seeing a definitive end to the goal when you have debt. )The M in SMART goal setting &#8211; measurable.) </p>
<p>Saving is not as measurable (for me at least) when you&#8217;re just dumping it into savings account each month or transferring it to a Roth IRA. I think that is because it is so automated (and ingrained) for me now. Maybe I need to just step back each month and celebrate exactly what we&#8217;ve saved.</p>
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		<title>By: J.R.C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>J.R.C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Nov 2010 16:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just bought epic win because of this post. I&#039;m already doing my chores! Thanks for letting me know this app exists!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just bought epic win because of this post. I&#8217;m already doing my chores! Thanks for letting me know this app exists!</p>
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		<title>By: Brad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Nov 2010 14:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comment #1 by Wes has the right idea.

Automate what you are currently doing and start earning more.  That&#039;s what I have done. If its boring and repeatable it can be automated.  Every single one of our bills are paid automatically.  Trash, water, sewer, cell phone, both cars, insurance, retirement, emergency fund, 529, ect. I dont have to think about it. 

I automated everything before my credit cards were paid off. Once they were automatically paid off I just tweaked the payment amounts to other things.  I only have to make adjustments every few months and I still check statements and look at my accounts almost daily but I rarely have to do something.

Now I work on side projects like a little web business I&#039;ve got going, volunteering, fitness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comment #1 by Wes has the right idea.</p>
<p>Automate what you are currently doing and start earning more.  That&#8217;s what I have done. If its boring and repeatable it can be automated.  Every single one of our bills are paid automatically.  Trash, water, sewer, cell phone, both cars, insurance, retirement, emergency fund, 529, ect. I dont have to think about it. </p>
<p>I automated everything before my credit cards were paid off. Once they were automatically paid off I just tweaked the payment amounts to other things.  I only have to make adjustments every few months and I still check statements and look at my accounts almost daily but I rarely have to do something.</p>
<p>Now I work on side projects like a little web business I&#8217;ve got going, volunteering, fitness.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Nov 2010 12:04:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@35... Chris, you just have to figure out what your goals are and how you can achieve them.  Obviously shrinking balances aren&#039;t sustainable unless you&#039;re close to death.  We did a year on one salary and our account balances went down, but we had planned for exactly that and had cash on hand to cover it.  But that would not have worked indefinitely.  If you have a lower income, you have to live on less (including saving), but you should still be saving.  Basically, spend less than you earn over the long-run, no matter what you earn.

So if you know what your enough is, you should know whether or not you can afford that on a lower salary or if you need to cut back/earn more.  Your goal shouldn&#039;t be to maximize your accounts, but to put away enough to ensure that your future will be secure.  There doesn&#039;t have to be no end limit-- you can set a lower goal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@35&#8230; Chris, you just have to figure out what your goals are and how you can achieve them.  Obviously shrinking balances aren&#8217;t sustainable unless you&#8217;re close to death.  We did a year on one salary and our account balances went down, but we had planned for exactly that and had cash on hand to cover it.  But that would not have worked indefinitely.  If you have a lower income, you have to live on less (including saving), but you should still be saving.  Basically, spend less than you earn over the long-run, no matter what you earn.</p>
<p>So if you know what your enough is, you should know whether or not you can afford that on a lower salary or if you need to cut back/earn more.  Your goal shouldn&#8217;t be to maximize your accounts, but to put away enough to ensure that your future will be secure.  There doesn&#8217;t have to be no end limit&#8211; you can set a lower goal.</p>
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		<title>By: David/moneycrashers</title>
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		<dc:creator>David/moneycrashers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Nov 2010 10:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An epic win for me would be to find a 0% balance transfer offer with a 0% APR for one year, and no balance transfer fee whatsoever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An epic win for me would be to find a 0% balance transfer offer with a 0% APR for one year, and no balance transfer fee whatsoever.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Nov 2010 04:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It worries me that my goal and reward are so firmly based on rising account balances. Reading through the comments, everyone seems on-board with this notion. This surprises me, as I thought GRS (as a whole) had a grip on the saving/living balance.

I&#039;m considering quitting my job, but losing my high income for a likely lower income is stressing me out. For me, success is a rising savings/investment account and I know quitting is going to make those dollar amounts go down. But situations like this is exactly why I was saving!

I think looking at account balances as a measure of success is dangerous. Unless you&#039;re going to die with loads of money, your attitude is going to have to change eventually, and it might be a difficult transition to make.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It worries me that my goal and reward are so firmly based on rising account balances. Reading through the comments, everyone seems on-board with this notion. This surprises me, as I thought GRS (as a whole) had a grip on the saving/living balance.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m considering quitting my job, but losing my high income for a likely lower income is stressing me out. For me, success is a rising savings/investment account and I know quitting is going to make those dollar amounts go down. But situations like this is exactly why I was saving!</p>
<p>I think looking at account balances as a measure of success is dangerous. Unless you&#8217;re going to die with loads of money, your attitude is going to have to change eventually, and it might be a difficult transition to make.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Nov 2010 03:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since paying off the plastic credit was easier (I assume the loans were smaller than student and car loans), why not use the plastic as a chipping tool?

I noticed that some plastic transfer proposals. Some offer a low 0,99% transfer interest rate.

Here&#039;s the idea: &lt;b&gt;Chip the big loan with small, achievable transfers, one at a time.&lt;/b&gt;

Now, this is certainly not for anyone, and let&#039;s be honest, probably only for those who unlocked the discipline-never-missed-a-payment in-year achievement.

Do some budget math and evaluate how much you could transfer on a low TIR credit card. Maybe you can transfer 500$ on a promotion, and repay this transfer at the same time you pay your other big loan.

My student loan is currently at 6%, while my credit card bank offers me 0,99% transfer rates. I could break down my big loan in smaller amounts and save the 5,01% difference.

Why would I do this?
1 - Stepping stones help to see the way.
2 - Save a little money.
3 - Spread the wealth. Instead of sending all my money to one bank, I share their profit, thus less for them :) 

Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since paying off the plastic credit was easier (I assume the loans were smaller than student and car loans), why not use the plastic as a chipping tool?</p>
<p>I noticed that some plastic transfer proposals. Some offer a low 0,99% transfer interest rate.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the idea: <b>Chip the big loan with small, achievable transfers, one at a time.</b></p>
<p>Now, this is certainly not for anyone, and let&#8217;s be honest, probably only for those who unlocked the discipline-never-missed-a-payment in-year achievement.</p>
<p>Do some budget math and evaluate how much you could transfer on a low TIR credit card. Maybe you can transfer 500$ on a promotion, and repay this transfer at the same time you pay your other big loan.</p>
<p>My student loan is currently at 6%, while my credit card bank offers me 0,99% transfer rates. I could break down my big loan in smaller amounts and save the 5,01% difference.</p>
<p>Why would I do this?<br />
1 &#8211; Stepping stones help to see the way.<br />
2 &#8211; Save a little money.<br />
3 &#8211; Spread the wealth. Instead of sending all my money to one bank, I share their profit, thus less for them <img src='http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Ward</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Ward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Nov 2010 22:35:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can totally relate with this.  Our credit card debt has been paid off for about a year now and now we&#039;re working on the &quot;big stuff.&quot;  Car loan #1 is almost paid off!  I think we do need some extra stuff to keep us motivated though.</description>
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		<title>By: Sara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Nov 2010 20:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must be a boring person, because I still find it rewarding to come in under budget every month and watch my savings grow.  It&#039;s one of the benefits of tracking my spending.  My &quot;points&quot; are really just dollars.

This post reminds me of a video I watched about &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://kottke.org/10/02/the-gameification-of-everything&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the gameification of everything&lt;/a&gt;.&quot;  It&#039;s about how Facebook games (like Farmville) are changing the future of advertising.  The presenter predicts that advertisers will create point systems to reward people for using their brands and even watching their advertisements.  It&#039;s an interesting idea to use the same psychological tactics to create a game for your own benefit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must be a boring person, because I still find it rewarding to come in under budget every month and watch my savings grow.  It&#8217;s one of the benefits of tracking my spending.  My &#8220;points&#8221; are really just dollars.</p>
<p>This post reminds me of a video I watched about &#8220;<a href="http://kottke.org/10/02/the-gameification-of-everything" rel="nofollow">the gameification of everything</a>.&#8221;  It&#8217;s about how Facebook games (like Farmville) are changing the future of advertising.  The presenter predicts that advertisers will create point systems to reward people for using their brands and even watching their advertisements.  It&#8217;s an interesting idea to use the same psychological tactics to create a game for your own benefit.</p>
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		<title>By: Trina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Nov 2010 20:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also agree with some PPs who suggested that you put it all on autopilot and forget about it.  When you&#039;re not thinking about it all the time, it&#039;s amazing how quickly the debt can go away and the savings can grow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also agree with some PPs who suggested that you put it all on autopilot and forget about it.  When you&#8217;re not thinking about it all the time, it&#8217;s amazing how quickly the debt can go away and the savings can grow.</p>
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		<title>By: Briana @ GBR</title>
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		<dc:creator>Briana @ GBR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Nov 2010 20:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These are really great ideas! Making it a game or competition keeps you dedicated and determined to accomplish your goals. I think this will definitely help with saving money</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These are really great ideas! Making it a game or competition keeps you dedicated and determined to accomplish your goals. I think this will definitely help with saving money</p>
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		<title>By: The Quest</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Quest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Nov 2010 20:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whenever one decides to trade destructive behavior for a more beneficial way of living, there is always excitement at the change. I know that I personally felt elated at the thought of managing my finances in a completely different way. I thought about keeping old statements and bounced checks around for positive reinforcement but instead found them to be negative reminders. Can&#039;t change the past after all!  Just look at your savings balances to keep yourself on track :)  This is money that wouldn&#039;t have been there otherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whenever one decides to trade destructive behavior for a more beneficial way of living, there is always excitement at the change. I know that I personally felt elated at the thought of managing my finances in a completely different way. I thought about keeping old statements and bounced checks around for positive reinforcement but instead found them to be negative reminders. Can&#8217;t change the past after all!  Just look at your savings balances to keep yourself on track <img src='http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   This is money that wouldn&#8217;t have been there otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: Trina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Nov 2010 20:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good idea to think of ways to keep yourself motivated!  IMHO, building up savings and retirement funds, and paying off the big loans can be fun, too.  I think it helps to break it down into chunks.  I tend to think in $10k increments.  Just like you celebrated each time you retired a credit card, make sure you celebrate reaching savings goals, too.  Good luck!  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good idea to think of ways to keep yourself motivated!  IMHO, building up savings and retirement funds, and paying off the big loans can be fun, too.  I think it helps to break it down into chunks.  I tend to think in $10k increments.  Just like you celebrated each time you retired a credit card, make sure you celebrate reaching savings goals, too.  Good luck!  <img src='http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Patti</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Nov 2010 20:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Me too! Once we hit our $50K emergency fund, my husband lost all steam for saving. Now with me going it alone, it&#039;s a chore. We need some new projects to save for. Last year, I redid the kitchen and we saved for that. Next, I am thinking of saving to invest in our friend&#039;s restaurant or maybe in a healthy food vending machine. Something to get us both motivated. One idea I had was to pick a new charity each month and see how much we could save for it. I decided monthly might be too much and maybe we would choose a charity to support for a year and see how much we could donate...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Me too! Once we hit our $50K emergency fund, my husband lost all steam for saving. Now with me going it alone, it&#8217;s a chore. We need some new projects to save for. Last year, I redid the kitchen and we saved for that. Next, I am thinking of saving to invest in our friend&#8217;s restaurant or maybe in a healthy food vending machine. Something to get us both motivated. One idea I had was to pick a new charity each month and see how much we could save for it. I decided monthly might be too much and maybe we would choose a charity to support for a year and see how much we could donate&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Samantha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Samantha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Nov 2010 20:02:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree completely with Karen #7.  We&#039;ve done the &#039;getting out of debt&#039; race, we&#039;ve saved the 6 months expenses just in case, and the retirement fund is on auto-pilot.  Now we&#039;re paying down the mortgage, but its such a long-term (and rather boring) goal that I&#039;m having a hard time cutting coupons to save another $3.  And making my own pie crust isn&#039;t worth it anymore (simply because I don&#039;t enjoy it).  

I need to re-focus and make it a game!  Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree completely with Karen #7.  We&#8217;ve done the &#8216;getting out of debt&#8217; race, we&#8217;ve saved the 6 months expenses just in case, and the retirement fund is on auto-pilot.  Now we&#8217;re paying down the mortgage, but its such a long-term (and rather boring) goal that I&#8217;m having a hard time cutting coupons to save another $3.  And making my own pie crust isn&#8217;t worth it anymore (simply because I don&#8217;t enjoy it).  </p>
<p>I need to re-focus and make it a game!  Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: KT</title>
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		<dc:creator>KT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Nov 2010 20:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the visual reminders (ex. &quot;We printed out little $100 bills representing all of our debt and taped them together in a long string.&quot;) are a great daily reminder and also a great reward when you get to take them down. We have a &quot;net worth&quot; sign in the closet where we get ready in the morning. It is a great reminder especially on Mondays (we update it every Sunday night).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the visual reminders (ex. &#8220;We printed out little $100 bills representing all of our debt and taped them together in a long string.&#8221;) are a great daily reminder and also a great reward when you get to take them down. We have a &#8220;net worth&#8221; sign in the closet where we get ready in the morning. It is a great reminder especially on Mondays (we update it every Sunday night).</p>
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		<title>By: Debbie M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Debbie M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Nov 2010 19:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s how I motivated myself for the big debts--I got an amortization table (or you can make one yourself using Excel).  I used this to make a graph showing how much would still be owed each month if I made minimum payments.

Then, each time I made an extra payment, I added another dot showing the actual remaining principal.

Now, when you still owe a lot as I did (my big loan was a mortgage), this is still not that exciting, so I also calculated how much time I was cutting off the end of my loan.  (When I started, I was only paying off about $35 worth of principal each month with the rest going to interest, but that meant that paying an additional $100 was cutting off almost three months from the length of my loan.)

**

@Mimi #12, it&#039;s awesome that one of you can have been jobless for so long, and yet your biggest worries are about finding the money for new glasses rather than figuring out how to stay in your house or apartment or how to get enough to eat every month.  To me, that&#039;s the real motivator--when something can go really wrong, and things are still okay.

**

For more ideas, I look to super frugal blogs.  I have learned to make pie crusts more easily and learned to make macaroni and cheese from just macaroni, milk, and cheese.

(Let&#039;s not talk about how I just bought a more expensive car than I had planned to.  I did pay cash, but I had to raid other savings categories such as vacations to do it.)

**

As some other people have implied, now that you don&#039;t need to spend so much energy learning how to do this, maybe you can spend your extra energy on something more fun (but also free) such as organizing your house, writing a novel, learning stuff with your kids.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s how I motivated myself for the big debts&#8211;I got an amortization table (or you can make one yourself using Excel).  I used this to make a graph showing how much would still be owed each month if I made minimum payments.</p>
<p>Then, each time I made an extra payment, I added another dot showing the actual remaining principal.</p>
<p>Now, when you still owe a lot as I did (my big loan was a mortgage), this is still not that exciting, so I also calculated how much time I was cutting off the end of my loan.  (When I started, I was only paying off about $35 worth of principal each month with the rest going to interest, but that meant that paying an additional $100 was cutting off almost three months from the length of my loan.)</p>
<p>**</p>
<p>@Mimi #12, it&#8217;s awesome that one of you can have been jobless for so long, and yet your biggest worries are about finding the money for new glasses rather than figuring out how to stay in your house or apartment or how to get enough to eat every month.  To me, that&#8217;s the real motivator&#8211;when something can go really wrong, and things are still okay.</p>
<p>**</p>
<p>For more ideas, I look to super frugal blogs.  I have learned to make pie crusts more easily and learned to make macaroni and cheese from just macaroni, milk, and cheese.</p>
<p>(Let&#8217;s not talk about how I just bought a more expensive car than I had planned to.  I did pay cash, but I had to raid other savings categories such as vacations to do it.)</p>
<p>**</p>
<p>As some other people have implied, now that you don&#8217;t need to spend so much energy learning how to do this, maybe you can spend your extra energy on something more fun (but also free) such as organizing your house, writing a novel, learning stuff with your kids.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Nov 2010 19:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great ideas!! sounds like now that you&#039;ve conquered your small debts and budgeting you are ready to become your own banker!  If you can conquer this you will never pay interest to anyone else for the rest of your life....pretty darn powerful!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great ideas!! sounds like now that you&#8217;ve conquered your small debts and budgeting you are ready to become your own banker!  If you can conquer this you will never pay interest to anyone else for the rest of your life&#8230;.pretty darn powerful!</p>
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		<title>By: Evan H.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evan H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Nov 2010 18:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are currently saving for a down payment here in Ventura, CA.  My wife and I took a piece of graph paper and drew a picture of a house on it that consumes 70 grid squares.  Each square represents $1000 and the game is to fill up these squares by the end of next year.  For each $10,000 we&#039;ve scheduled a champagne dinner at some of the restaurants around town.  We&#039;re coming up on $20,000, so it will be fish tacos at Spencer Mackenzie&#039;s with champage overlooking the beach.  We&#039;ve found that you have to celebrate your mini milestones along the way.

We did the same with debt.  We printed out little $100 bills representing all of our debt and taped them together in a long string.  Sadly, there were 350 of them.  Each time we made a debt payment we cut off the number of bills and set fire to them.  When we burned the last mini Benji&#039;s we did the dance of joy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are currently saving for a down payment here in Ventura, CA.  My wife and I took a piece of graph paper and drew a picture of a house on it that consumes 70 grid squares.  Each square represents $1000 and the game is to fill up these squares by the end of next year.  For each $10,000 we&#8217;ve scheduled a champagne dinner at some of the restaurants around town.  We&#8217;re coming up on $20,000, so it will be fish tacos at Spencer Mackenzie&#8217;s with champage overlooking the beach.  We&#8217;ve found that you have to celebrate your mini milestones along the way.</p>
<p>We did the same with debt.  We printed out little $100 bills representing all of our debt and taped them together in a long string.  Sadly, there were 350 of them.  Each time we made a debt payment we cut off the number of bills and set fire to them.  When we burned the last mini Benji&#8217;s we did the dance of joy.</p>
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		<title>By: elena</title>
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		<dc:creator>elena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Nov 2010 18:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hear you. I keep GRS as my homepage looking for inspiration. 
We paid off our debts and have an emergency fund. Retirement, keeping our house intact and saving for cars have been more elusive. I don&#039;t see the immediate gain. I worry more about making the right/better choice.
It&#039;s about practice and habits. Preparing for the next thing. Maybe getting lucky too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear you. I keep GRS as my homepage looking for inspiration.<br />
We paid off our debts and have an emergency fund. Retirement, keeping our house intact and saving for cars have been more elusive. I don&#8217;t see the immediate gain. I worry more about making the right/better choice.<br />
It&#8217;s about practice and habits. Preparing for the next thing. Maybe getting lucky too.</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin Warsinske</title>
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		<dc:creator>Benjamin Warsinske</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Nov 2010 18:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post. A game to help you continue to pay down your debt and increase your assets is Cashflow 202. You can play it online or as a board game. It will teach you what to do after you pay down your short term debt, how to create more cashflow, and manage your finances all while playing a game. I have played it for about 3 years now- it is incredible how it makes it much easier to understand and implement into your real life. 

If you are bored and want to challenge yourself to paying your longer term debts down faster, how about creating extra income each month? Start with earning an extra $100 one month, then try and double that the next month, and so on. It can be a game in itself. And the great thing is, you are increasing your income rather than just cutting expenses. I&#039;m all for getting rich slowly, but it doesn&#039;t mean you have to live within the boundaries of a job. Think outside the box and start to create things on your own. It is amazing what can happen when you just take action.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post. A game to help you continue to pay down your debt and increase your assets is Cashflow 202. You can play it online or as a board game. It will teach you what to do after you pay down your short term debt, how to create more cashflow, and manage your finances all while playing a game. I have played it for about 3 years now- it is incredible how it makes it much easier to understand and implement into your real life. </p>
<p>If you are bored and want to challenge yourself to paying your longer term debts down faster, how about creating extra income each month? Start with earning an extra $100 one month, then try and double that the next month, and so on. It can be a game in itself. And the great thing is, you are increasing your income rather than just cutting expenses. I&#8217;m all for getting rich slowly, but it doesn&#8217;t mean you have to live within the boundaries of a job. Think outside the box and start to create things on your own. It is amazing what can happen when you just take action.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle @ TransferAmerica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle @ TransferAmerica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Nov 2010 18:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My husband and I both save our change from the end of each day. We have separate glass jars that we put our change in. I remember when I was younger I had a piggy bank for about 5 years that I put in whatever change I could find around the house. It would never be a lot at one time but it slowly added up. When it was finally full it weighed about 30lbs and I had saved over $600! Our jars of change are halfway full and we&#039;re going to put it towards something fun. 

For myself, using mint.com has been a great tool for tracking my finances and saving money. Just being aware of what I am spending keeps my finances under control.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My husband and I both save our change from the end of each day. We have separate glass jars that we put our change in. I remember when I was younger I had a piggy bank for about 5 years that I put in whatever change I could find around the house. It would never be a lot at one time but it slowly added up. When it was finally full it weighed about 30lbs and I had saved over $600! Our jars of change are halfway full and we&#8217;re going to put it towards something fun. </p>
<p>For myself, using mint.com has been a great tool for tracking my finances and saving money. Just being aware of what I am spending keeps my finances under control.</p>
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		<title>By: PB</title>
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		<dc:creator>PB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Nov 2010 18:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I made a chart in Excel for every debt, arranged in rainbow colors, debts on the side, months horizontally.  Using the debt snowball method, I calculated when each one will be paid off.  It&#039;s fun to look at it every month and to move a month closer to everything being gone.  We have a few vertical things marked, too, which help to focus the mind, like our last child&#039;s graduation month and my husband&#039;s retirement.  And me going back to school!  This helps with planning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I made a chart in Excel for every debt, arranged in rainbow colors, debts on the side, months horizontally.  Using the debt snowball method, I calculated when each one will be paid off.  It&#8217;s fun to look at it every month and to move a month closer to everything being gone.  We have a few vertical things marked, too, which help to focus the mind, like our last child&#8217;s graduation month and my husband&#8217;s retirement.  And me going back to school!  This helps with planning.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Nov 2010 17:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love to give myself challenges to keep saving interesting. But I&#039;m not sure how game #2 would work for savings.  In order to bring home change for the piggy bank, you&#039;d have to be breaking bills (i.e. spending) during the day.  Counter-intuitive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love to give myself challenges to keep saving interesting. But I&#8217;m not sure how game #2 would work for savings.  In order to bring home change for the piggy bank, you&#8217;d have to be breaking bills (i.e. spending) during the day.  Counter-intuitive.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom in Denver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom in Denver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Nov 2010 17:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am squarely in the BORED phase. I paid off all CC debt, then paid off my car, then sold my house and now &quot;rent&quot; in my girlfriend&#039;s house. Eventually, we&#039;ll marry - ourselves and finances - but for now, watching my accounts go up a few hundred bucks here and there allows me to lose focus.

Instead, I celebrate milestones, like hitting $100K in my 401K, hitting 10K in my savings, etc. 

Finding victories is key. I used to hang onto every word on some PF blogs. Now, they&#039;re more of the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am squarely in the BORED phase. I paid off all CC debt, then paid off my car, then sold my house and now &#8220;rent&#8221; in my girlfriend&#8217;s house. Eventually, we&#8217;ll marry &#8211; ourselves and finances &#8211; but for now, watching my accounts go up a few hundred bucks here and there allows me to lose focus.</p>
<p>Instead, I celebrate milestones, like hitting $100K in my 401K, hitting 10K in my savings, etc. </p>
<p>Finding victories is key. I used to hang onto every word on some PF blogs. Now, they&#8217;re more of the same.</p>
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		<title>By: brooklyn money</title>
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		<dc:creator>brooklyn money</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Nov 2010 17:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have recently become slightly obsessed with my NetworthIQ rank. I like trying to focus on moving ahead of the person in front of me or moving to the next page. Sometimes it&#039;s a longer term goal because the person has a lot more than me, but sometimes not. I just do it to keep it fun and try to give me something to work towards while the bigger goals like &quot;retirement&quot; are so far away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have recently become slightly obsessed with my NetworthIQ rank. I like trying to focus on moving ahead of the person in front of me or moving to the next page. Sometimes it&#8217;s a longer term goal because the person has a lot more than me, but sometimes not. I just do it to keep it fun and try to give me something to work towards while the bigger goals like &#8220;retirement&#8221; are so far away.</p>
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		<title>By: beachbound</title>
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		<dc:creator>beachbound</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Nov 2010 16:05:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m all for saving, budgeting, and whatever else, but don&#039;t these &quot;games&quot; take up so much mental time? It just seems stressful thinking about money or debt all the time, but then again I don&#039;t let money matters take over my life, even though I&#039;m in debt (and working on it).  I&#039;d rather go hiking and clear my mind. 

Just automate if you&#039;re able to, and enjoy everything else!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m all for saving, budgeting, and whatever else, but don&#8217;t these &#8220;games&#8221; take up so much mental time? It just seems stressful thinking about money or debt all the time, but then again I don&#8217;t let money matters take over my life, even though I&#8217;m in debt (and working on it).  I&#8217;d rather go hiking and clear my mind. </p>
<p>Just automate if you&#8217;re able to, and enjoy everything else!</p>
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		<title>By: retirebyforty</title>
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		<dc:creator>retirebyforty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Nov 2010 15:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Katy #11. Blogging about finance is like competing with the other personal finance blogs on who could save and invest the most money. It&#039;s quite a lot of fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Katy #11. Blogging about finance is like competing with the other personal finance blogs on who could save and invest the most money. It&#8217;s quite a lot of fun.</p>
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