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		<title>By: John G.</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2010/11/30/index-funds-the-investment-answer/comment-page-1/#comment-1000872</link>
		<dc:creator>John G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Dec 2010 15:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>buy-and-hold is outdated though.  You can use an index fund to ride the ups for a few years, but long-term, that is not great.

For example, if you invested in SPX in 1999, you would have a few years of up and a few years of down.  If you blindly stayed in the whole time, you would just now be breaking even again:

http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2010/12/buy-hold-vs-trend/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>buy-and-hold is outdated though.  You can use an index fund to ride the ups for a few years, but long-term, that is not great.</p>
<p>For example, if you invested in SPX in 1999, you would have a few years of up and a few years of down.  If you blindly stayed in the whole time, you would just now be breaking even again:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2010/12/buy-hold-vs-trend/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2010/12/buy-hold-vs-trend/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2010 19:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When google employees became millionaires, all the financial experts told them to invest in index funds. I think industry specific &quot;index&quot; funds is like picking individual stocks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When google employees became millionaires, all the financial experts told them to invest in index funds. I think industry specific &#8220;index&#8221; funds is like picking individual stocks.</p>
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		<title>By: Walter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Walter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2010 00:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I prefer mutual funds that are income funds: that is, funds that pay a monthly dividend. These tend to be fairly heavily weighted in bonds and therefore tend not to increase or decrease in value as quickly as more heavily stock weighted funds. The added benefit is that you can truly take advantage of dollar-cost averaging if those dividends are reinvested. Of course, I still have SP500 and Russell 2000 index funds, but as more of side dishes than the main course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I prefer mutual funds that are income funds: that is, funds that pay a monthly dividend. These tend to be fairly heavily weighted in bonds and therefore tend not to increase or decrease in value as quickly as more heavily stock weighted funds. The added benefit is that you can truly take advantage of dollar-cost averaging if those dividends are reinvested. Of course, I still have SP500 and Russell 2000 index funds, but as more of side dishes than the main course.</p>
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		<title>By: honeybee</title>
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		<dc:creator>honeybee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 21:20:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another typo... Credit Suisse &quot;First&quot; Boston (yeah, I know, sorry also to be a pain)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another typo&#8230; Credit Suisse &#8220;First&#8221; Boston (yeah, I know, sorry also to be a pain)</p>
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		<title>By: Philip</title>
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		<dc:creator>Philip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 21:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mom of five – I am glad you asked for clarification about commodity based ETF’s. As I mentioned before, you definitely need to know what you own and why you own it. Commodities are perceived as an effective hedge for inflation because their returns are positively correlated with inflation. Basically that means commodity prices, like oil and gold, typically move in the same direction at the same time. BUT, commodity prices are much more volatile than stocks are. Unlike stocks, commodities do not generate any future earnings or create business value. So, it is a type of speculation of where prices will be in the future. When you invest, you need to understand the risk that is associated with that investment. That is called standard deviation. The question would be is that investment increasing the risk in your portfolio and are you OK with that? If you have a broadly diversified portfolio, you will own companies that make, refine, or distribute those commodities. So essentially you already have exposure to those types of “hard assets.” I hope that helps!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mom of five – I am glad you asked for clarification about commodity based ETF’s. As I mentioned before, you definitely need to know what you own and why you own it. Commodities are perceived as an effective hedge for inflation because their returns are positively correlated with inflation. Basically that means commodity prices, like oil and gold, typically move in the same direction at the same time. BUT, commodity prices are much more volatile than stocks are. Unlike stocks, commodities do not generate any future earnings or create business value. So, it is a type of speculation of where prices will be in the future. When you invest, you need to understand the risk that is associated with that investment. That is called standard deviation. The question would be is that investment increasing the risk in your portfolio and are you OK with that? If you have a broadly diversified portfolio, you will own companies that make, refine, or distribute those commodities. So essentially you already have exposure to those types of “hard assets.” I hope that helps!</p>
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		<title>By: Mom of five</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mom of five</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 19:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our retirement dollars are mostly in index funds and bonds.   We have just recently begun investing non-retirement dollars in ETF&#039;s (Agricultural and Oil).    I&#039;m glad to see them mentioned here.    At this point, they&#039;re a very small part of our non-retirement savings(less than 2 percent), but I&#039;m not completely sure I understand them and would really appreciate an in depth discussion.       I just figured they&#039;re a good hedge against inflation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our retirement dollars are mostly in index funds and bonds.   We have just recently begun investing non-retirement dollars in ETF&#8217;s (Agricultural and Oil).    I&#8217;m glad to see them mentioned here.    At this point, they&#8217;re a very small part of our non-retirement savings(less than 2 percent), but I&#8217;m not completely sure I understand them and would really appreciate an in depth discussion.       I just figured they&#8217;re a good hedge against inflation.</p>
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		<title>By: RW Cook</title>
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		<dc:creator>RW Cook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 19:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brent&#039;s analogy of the driver swerving in and out of traffic to get ahead is BRILLIANT.

A great explanation for risk and return</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brent&#8217;s analogy of the driver swerving in and out of traffic to get ahead is BRILLIANT.</p>
<p>A great explanation for risk and return</p>
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		<title>By: RW Cook</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2010/11/30/index-funds-the-investment-answer/comment-page-1/#comment-973262</link>
		<dc:creator>RW Cook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 19:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep love index funds. When folks talk about the market doing nothing for 10 years they are usually talking about the SP 500. But if you&#039;ve diversified into non-correlating Indexes such as REITs and assorted bond funds you&#039;ve made out okay the last 10 years.

Aside from Bogle, Bernstein (highly recommended)and Zweig, here&#039;s another resource for the uninitiated...
http://www.marketwatch.com/lazyportfolio</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep love index funds. When folks talk about the market doing nothing for 10 years they are usually talking about the SP 500. But if you&#8217;ve diversified into non-correlating Indexes such as REITs and assorted bond funds you&#8217;ve made out okay the last 10 years.</p>
<p>Aside from Bogle, Bernstein (highly recommended)and Zweig, here&#8217;s another resource for the uninitiated&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://www.marketwatch.com/lazyportfolio" rel="nofollow">http://www.marketwatch.com/lazyportfolio</a></p>
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		<title>By: Everyday Tips</title>
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		<dc:creator>Everyday Tips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 19:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love index funds.  I have lost money in individual stocks, and I just sleep better at night knowing I am spreading the risk around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love index funds.  I have lost money in individual stocks, and I just sleep better at night knowing I am spreading the risk around.</p>
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		<title>By: Kent @ The Financial Philosopher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kent @ The Financial Philosopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 18:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Passive investing is an important topic to revisit on a regular basis.  Great job, JD!

I&#039;m a CFP(R) and fee-only investment advisor.  Since I started my own business four years ago, I&#039;ve been shifting clients to index funds and ETFs.  My reasoning is that the greatest determinants of a given portfolio&#039;s performance are asset allocation and expenses.

Even the greatest investments, combined with poor allocation and high expenses, will lose to a well-diversified portfolio of index funds.

The talk about a &quot;lost decade&quot; and &quot;buy and hold is dead&quot; is media noise directed at the one-fund strategy.

A passive strategy, given a decent allocation, is often better than an active strategy to beat the market.  That&#039;s not to even speak about the time saved in using the passive strategy!

The advisor who wrote the book, The Investment Answer, is simply exposing the financial services industry for what it is--a sales-centered environment that makes more money using active investing strategies...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Passive investing is an important topic to revisit on a regular basis.  Great job, JD!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a CFP(R) and fee-only investment advisor.  Since I started my own business four years ago, I&#8217;ve been shifting clients to index funds and ETFs.  My reasoning is that the greatest determinants of a given portfolio&#8217;s performance are asset allocation and expenses.</p>
<p>Even the greatest investments, combined with poor allocation and high expenses, will lose to a well-diversified portfolio of index funds.</p>
<p>The talk about a &#8220;lost decade&#8221; and &#8220;buy and hold is dead&#8221; is media noise directed at the one-fund strategy.</p>
<p>A passive strategy, given a decent allocation, is often better than an active strategy to beat the market.  That&#8217;s not to even speak about the time saved in using the passive strategy!</p>
<p>The advisor who wrote the book, The Investment Answer, is simply exposing the financial services industry for what it is&#8211;a sales-centered environment that makes more money using active investing strategies&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Duke Matlock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duke Matlock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 18:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My two problems with index funds.

1) They are passive.  I know people who got severely burned in the 2007-09 bear from complacent investing.

2) When I buy an index fund, I&#039;m tied to every stock in the index.  If I only would consider 50 of the 500 suitable for further review, why would I want an index fund.

Separately, the srticle slants perception by stating 2% for fees.  If they shop around, investors can easily get far lower fees.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My two problems with index funds.</p>
<p>1) They are passive.  I know people who got severely burned in the 2007-09 bear from complacent investing.</p>
<p>2) When I buy an index fund, I&#8217;m tied to every stock in the index.  If I only would consider 50 of the 500 suitable for further review, why would I want an index fund.</p>
<p>Separately, the srticle slants perception by stating 2% for fees.  If they shop around, investors can easily get far lower fees.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Piper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Piper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 17:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A short book with a lightbulb on the cover promoting the use of index funds? I suspect I&#039;ll like it! :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A short book with a lightbulb on the cover promoting the use of index funds? I suspect I&#8217;ll like it! <img src='http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Suzanne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suzanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 17:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After once having to sue a financial planner and then having one that charged big fees while giving little attention to my little portfolio, I now manage everything myself.  From the research I have done, I am a believer in Index Funds.

I have two index funds: one for my stocks and one for my bonds.  I rebalance every quarter if necessary, and just add to those accounts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After once having to sue a financial planner and then having one that charged big fees while giving little attention to my little portfolio, I now manage everything myself.  From the research I have done, I am a believer in Index Funds.</p>
<p>I have two index funds: one for my stocks and one for my bonds.  I rebalance every quarter if necessary, and just add to those accounts.</p>
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		<title>By: Brent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 17:08:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div class=&quot;greatcomment&quot;&gt;I&#039;m on the no-brainer plan. Age as percent in Total Bond Index fund, The rest as Stock Index Fund. Reinvest all returns. Sure, I could spend time trying to get ahead, just like that guy who swerves in an out of lanes. But we all sit at the stoplight eventually. Sit back and recognize that an extra .5% return won&#039;t make you any happier than taking that time to head to your nearest park.&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="greatcomment">I&#8217;m on the no-brainer plan. Age as percent in Total Bond Index fund, The rest as Stock Index Fund. Reinvest all returns. Sure, I could spend time trying to get ahead, just like that guy who swerves in an out of lanes. But we all sit at the stoplight eventually. Sit back and recognize that an extra .5% return won&#8217;t make you any happier than taking that time to head to your nearest park.</div>
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		<title>By: Philip</title>
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		<dc:creator>Philip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 17:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a great topic to be discussing. Just to be upfront, I am an investment advisor. There are many things that I have learned about investments. The first is if it seems to be to-good-to-be-true, then usually it is. People always try to get into and out of investments because they have a feeling, or because of some anecdotal evidence. There is always someone who will do better than the market, but the question is out of the over 65,000 mutual fund available worldwide (see the ICI Fact Book) what are the odds that you will pick the manager that actually beats their respective market that year? The way most people do this is looking at the manager’s track record. Will they be able to do it again? Perhaps, but over a long period of time, statistically speaking it will not be repeated. Market timing is another problem investors have. That is the idea that you can get into the market before there is a run up, and out of the market before it goes down. The problem is that with the availability of the internet, there is so much information that any new piece of information is quickly reflected in any price of the stock. So what a person would be doing is “predicting” what will happen next without knowing. What someone needs to know about investing is that stock picking, market timing, and track-record investing is harming them more than helping. Have a life long game plan. The use of index funds is a great way to completely destroy those destructive habits. What you really need to know is how much volatility, or what the really smart people call standard deviation, is in your portfolio and whether it is too much or not enough. That is where asset allocation comes into play. Know what you own and know why you own it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great topic to be discussing. Just to be upfront, I am an investment advisor. There are many things that I have learned about investments. The first is if it seems to be to-good-to-be-true, then usually it is. People always try to get into and out of investments because they have a feeling, or because of some anecdotal evidence. There is always someone who will do better than the market, but the question is out of the over 65,000 mutual fund available worldwide (see the ICI Fact Book) what are the odds that you will pick the manager that actually beats their respective market that year? The way most people do this is looking at the manager’s track record. Will they be able to do it again? Perhaps, but over a long period of time, statistically speaking it will not be repeated. Market timing is another problem investors have. That is the idea that you can get into the market before there is a run up, and out of the market before it goes down. The problem is that with the availability of the internet, there is so much information that any new piece of information is quickly reflected in any price of the stock. So what a person would be doing is “predicting” what will happen next without knowing. What someone needs to know about investing is that stock picking, market timing, and track-record investing is harming them more than helping. Have a life long game plan. The use of index funds is a great way to completely destroy those destructive habits. What you really need to know is how much volatility, or what the really smart people call standard deviation, is in your portfolio and whether it is too much or not enough. That is where asset allocation comes into play. Know what you own and know why you own it!</p>
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		<title>By: Jenn Hill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jenn Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 17:01:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Note that the book is already sold out on Amazon.com.  People are paying attention to these ideas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Note that the book is already sold out on Amazon.com.  People are paying attention to these ideas.</p>
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		<title>By: Dylan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dylan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 16:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;but if he starts talking about beating the market, walk away.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Unless it in the context of why it&#039;s not even worth trying.  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;but if he starts talking about beating the market, walk away.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Unless it in the context of why it&#8217;s not even worth trying.  <img src='http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Dylan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dylan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 16:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@matt ward:

&lt;i&gt;&quot;One advantage of index ETFs over mutual funds is that in a down market you can sell covered call options on your ETF brining in a nice little extra return – anywhere up to 2% a year.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

That&#039;s only one side of the coin.  Those options may be exercised and you may have to give up stock below market value, or you may only be able to close them out at a loss, either case costing you anywhere up to 2% a year or possibly more. The options market prices itself to eliminate the kind of easy money you&#039;re describing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@matt ward:</p>
<p><i>&#8220;One advantage of index ETFs over mutual funds is that in a down market you can sell covered call options on your ETF brining in a nice little extra return – anywhere up to 2% a year.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>That&#8217;s only one side of the coin.  Those options may be exercised and you may have to give up stock below market value, or you may only be able to close them out at a loss, either case costing you anywhere up to 2% a year or possibly more. The options market prices itself to eliminate the kind of easy money you&#8217;re describing.</p>
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		<title>By: G</title>
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		<dc:creator>G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 16:35:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>J.D. I think you meant to say *index* funds charge 0.2% (or less!) , not *mutual* funds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>J.D. I think you meant to say *index* funds charge 0.2% (or less!) , not *mutual* funds.</p>
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		<title>By: tinyhands</title>
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		<dc:creator>tinyhands</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 16:35:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You don&#039;t have to beat the market to be a successful investor. &quot;Beat the market&quot; is one of the biggest scams perpetrated on investors of all time. It&#039;s an easy little phrase to say, so people parrot it like some sort of gospel. It turns investing into a zero-sum GAME, which it most definitely is not.

You only HAVE to beat inflation, which is generally pretty easy to do. The other thing you should do is have a plan and follow it. If your plan for retirement includes only having to average 4% growth over 30 years, you&#039;ve got a statistically excellent chance of making it, even if you don&#039;t beat the market. If your plan includes having to average 10% growth over 30 years, there&#039;s a chance you may not make it, even if you beat the market every year. I recommend fee-only advisors (like Dylan, above) but if he starts talking about beating the market, walk away.

But back to indexes: Malkiel explains in surprisingly easy-to-understand detail how a basket of risk-diversified stocks rapidly approaches the market portfolio, thus arguing in favor of an index fund. He also points to several studies that show how trading activity reduces returns time after time, also arguing in favor of an index fund.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You don&#8217;t have to beat the market to be a successful investor. &#8220;Beat the market&#8221; is one of the biggest scams perpetrated on investors of all time. It&#8217;s an easy little phrase to say, so people parrot it like some sort of gospel. It turns investing into a zero-sum GAME, which it most definitely is not.</p>
<p>You only HAVE to beat inflation, which is generally pretty easy to do. The other thing you should do is have a plan and follow it. If your plan for retirement includes only having to average 4% growth over 30 years, you&#8217;ve got a statistically excellent chance of making it, even if you don&#8217;t beat the market. If your plan includes having to average 10% growth over 30 years, there&#8217;s a chance you may not make it, even if you beat the market every year. I recommend fee-only advisors (like Dylan, above) but if he starts talking about beating the market, walk away.</p>
<p>But back to indexes: Malkiel explains in surprisingly easy-to-understand detail how a basket of risk-diversified stocks rapidly approaches the market portfolio, thus arguing in favor of an index fund. He also points to several studies that show how trading activity reduces returns time after time, also arguing in favor of an index fund.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 16:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, Warren Buffet hasn&#039;t done so well lately. 

http://www.businessinsider.com/warren-buffett-has-not-generated-any-alpha-in-10-years-2010-10 

I don&#039;t like index funds for a couple reasons:

1) you are guaranteed to hold losers too long
2) when people hear index fund they think &quot;I&#039;m diversified!&quot;, but almost 20% of the VFINX fund linked above is made up of 10 stocks
3) sometimes you can actually get lower expenses buying individual stocks or ETFs</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Warren Buffet hasn&#8217;t done so well lately. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.businessinsider.com/warren-buffett-has-not-generated-any-alpha-in-10-years-2010-10" rel="nofollow">http://www.businessinsider.com/warren-buffett-has-not-generated-any-alpha-in-10-years-2010-10</a> </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t like index funds for a couple reasons:</p>
<p>1) you are guaranteed to hold losers too long<br />
2) when people hear index fund they think &#8220;I&#8217;m diversified!&#8221;, but almost 20% of the VFINX fund linked above is made up of 10 stocks<br />
3) sometimes you can actually get lower expenses buying individual stocks or ETFs</p>
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		<title>By: J.D. Roth</title>
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		<dc:creator>J.D. Roth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 16:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I &lt;b&gt;bolded&lt;/b&gt; that sentence, too, Jason. How embarrassing is that?! :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I <b>bolded</b> that sentence, too, Jason. How embarrassing is that?! <img src='http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 16:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also liked &quot;Winning the Losers Game&quot;!

I also suggest &quot;What Works On Wall Street&quot; -- check this out at the library, it isn&#039;t really a book to read but an overview of several hundred investing strategies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also liked &#8220;Winning the Losers Game&#8221;!</p>
<p>I also suggest &#8220;What Works On Wall Street&#8221; &#8212; check this out at the library, it isn&#8217;t really a book to read but an overview of several hundred investing strategies.</p>
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		<title>By: Contrarian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Contrarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 15:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charles D. Eliss makes a compelling case for index funds in his book &quot;Winning the Losers Game&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charles D. Eliss makes a compelling case for index funds in his book &#8220;Winning the Losers Game&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: honeybee</title>
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		<dc:creator>honeybee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 15:37:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Bogleheads&#039; Guide to Investing is the single best-explained &quot;encyclopedia&quot; of basic investment options that I&#039;ve come across, and they go into great and clearly-explained detail about exactly why Index funds are better for your wealth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Bogleheads&#8217; Guide to Investing is the single best-explained &#8220;encyclopedia&#8221; of basic investment options that I&#8217;ve come across, and they go into great and clearly-explained detail about exactly why Index funds are better for your wealth.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Beck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Beck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 15:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I try not to comment just to point out typos, but I can&#039;t get past this sentence - &quot;but also to increases returns&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I try not to comment just to point out typos, but I can&#8217;t get past this sentence &#8211; &#8220;but also to increases returns&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Dylan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dylan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 15:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;I’ve actually been burned by a financial advisor..nothing says incompetent like under performing the market in 2009. That’s pretty hard to do.

I fired him and went to mutual funds. A good chunk is in the S+P 500 vanguard fund and I couldn’t be happier.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

The difficulty of outperforming the market has nothing to with state of the market, i.e. a bull or bear market does not change the odds of outperforming.  It&#039;s always an equally hard thing to do!

I&#039;m a financial advisor and my investment advice will never out perform markets, ever.  I say, get as close as you can by using ultra low-cost index funds.

Guess what...Vanuard 500 fund has underperformed the S&amp;P 500 in bull markets too.  But thats not a bad thing either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;I’ve actually been burned by a financial advisor..nothing says incompetent like under performing the market in 2009. That’s pretty hard to do.</p>
<p>I fired him and went to mutual funds. A good chunk is in the S+P 500 vanguard fund and I couldn’t be happier.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>The difficulty of outperforming the market has nothing to with state of the market, i.e. a bull or bear market does not change the odds of outperforming.  It&#8217;s always an equally hard thing to do!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a financial advisor and my investment advice will never out perform markets, ever.  I say, get as close as you can by using ultra low-cost index funds.</p>
<p>Guess what&#8230;Vanuard 500 fund has underperformed the S&amp;P 500 in bull markets too.  But thats not a bad thing either.</p>
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		<title>By: babysteps</title>
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		<dc:creator>babysteps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 15:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am also an ex-Wall Streeter.  

Completely agree, over time study after study has shown that index funds produce higher returns with lower volatility (that is, less bouncing around - the statistical measure of risk) than actively managed funds, with lower hassle (not just costs).  You don&#039;t even need an advisor, just a low-cost brokerage account and some routines/self-discipline.

I agree, it&#039;s best to check your portfolio regularly.  One hint: in most cases, it is cheaper to &quot;rebalance&quot; by shifting where you invest new money, not by selling and moving existing holdings.  
That is, if your target is 40% bonds and 60% stocks, but bonds have outperformed stocks so your actual current balance is 50% bonds/50% stocks, it may make more sense to temporarily boost the dollars you invest in stocks (and trim or even eliminate for a short while the money you put in bonds) until you get back to 40% bonds/60% stocks.  
That way you don&#039;t have to pay any extra fees (in this case, fees to sell some of your bond holdings, and purchase stocks) vs. what you would normally pay.
In practice, rebalancing more than once a year is usually overkill, and shifts of less than 5% in either direction (some argue 10%) are not necessarily a compelling reason to rebalance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am also an ex-Wall Streeter.  </p>
<p>Completely agree, over time study after study has shown that index funds produce higher returns with lower volatility (that is, less bouncing around &#8211; the statistical measure of risk) than actively managed funds, with lower hassle (not just costs).  You don&#8217;t even need an advisor, just a low-cost brokerage account and some routines/self-discipline.</p>
<p>I agree, it&#8217;s best to check your portfolio regularly.  One hint: in most cases, it is cheaper to &#8220;rebalance&#8221; by shifting where you invest new money, not by selling and moving existing holdings.<br />
That is, if your target is 40% bonds and 60% stocks, but bonds have outperformed stocks so your actual current balance is 50% bonds/50% stocks, it may make more sense to temporarily boost the dollars you invest in stocks (and trim or even eliminate for a short while the money you put in bonds) until you get back to 40% bonds/60% stocks.<br />
That way you don&#8217;t have to pay any extra fees (in this case, fees to sell some of your bond holdings, and purchase stocks) vs. what you would normally pay.<br />
In practice, rebalancing more than once a year is usually overkill, and shifts of less than 5% in either direction (some argue 10%) are not necessarily a compelling reason to rebalance.</p>
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		<title>By: matt ward</title>
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		<dc:creator>matt ward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 15:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One advantage of index ETFs over mutual funds is that in a down market you can sell covered call options on your ETF brining in a nice little extra return - anywhere up to 2% a year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One advantage of index ETFs over mutual funds is that in a down market you can sell covered call options on your ETF brining in a nice little extra return &#8211; anywhere up to 2% a year.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Parsons</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Parsons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 14:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For 95% of the population, index funds are the way to go. However, I chose to invest in individual stocks. Quite simply, I believe that I can do better than an index fund. If in 5 years I look back and that&#039;s not true - then I will gladly change my tune. I wrote a post on why I chose individual stocks rather than index funds here:
http://www.smallbizbigdreams.com/money-finances/why-i-invest-in-individual-stocks-not-indexes/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For 95% of the population, index funds are the way to go. However, I chose to invest in individual stocks. Quite simply, I believe that I can do better than an index fund. If in 5 years I look back and that&#8217;s not true &#8211; then I will gladly change my tune. I wrote a post on why I chose individual stocks rather than index funds here:<br />
<a href="http://www.smallbizbigdreams.com/money-finances/why-i-invest-in-individual-stocks-not-indexes/" rel="nofollow">http://www.smallbizbigdreams.com/money-finances/why-i-invest-in-individual-stocks-not-indexes/</a></p>
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