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	<title>Comments on: Spare Change: Stock-Market Genius Edition</title>
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		<title>By: RS</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2010/12/15/spare-change-stock-market-genius-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-1025912</link>
		<dc:creator>RS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2010 18:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MSN money has a good page of milestones by decade.  The page also provides some interesting statistics to see how your finances match up with others your age. 
http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Retirementandwills/Createaplan/Createaplan.aspx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MSN money has a good page of milestones by decade.  The page also provides some interesting statistics to see how your finances match up with others your age.<br />
<a href="http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Retirementandwills/Createaplan/Createaplan.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Retirementandwills/Createaplan/Createaplan.aspx</a></p>
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		<title>By: Barb Friedberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barb Friedberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2010 02:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Give me a break! There is so much empirical evidence supporting the efficiency of the markets most of the time, it&#039;s amazing people believe these silly theories!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Give me a break! There is so much empirical evidence supporting the efficiency of the markets most of the time, it&#8217;s amazing people believe these silly theories!</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 22:38:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you really dig into this, I think you will find that there are seasonal influences in the market that can be exploited. Norman Fosback has written extensively on seasonal, monthly, weekly patterens in the market. Mark Hulbert has been reviewing market newsletters for years and Fosback&#039;s seasonality system is like the number one. Part of the beauty of it is that it is out of the market earning interest for two thirds of the time. I have personally made money on it. I suggest a google search on seasonality and fosback...
Here is Fosbacks explaination http://www.fosback.com/seasonality_system.htm  
or just check out this article.
http://marketsci.wordpress.com/2010/03/09/fosback-seasonality-strategy/
 
Fridays are better than Mondays and the month end period is better than the rest of the month and days around holidays are the best for positive stock market movement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you really dig into this, I think you will find that there are seasonal influences in the market that can be exploited. Norman Fosback has written extensively on seasonal, monthly, weekly patterens in the market. Mark Hulbert has been reviewing market newsletters for years and Fosback&#8217;s seasonality system is like the number one. Part of the beauty of it is that it is out of the market earning interest for two thirds of the time. I have personally made money on it. I suggest a google search on seasonality and fosback&#8230;<br />
Here is Fosbacks explaination <a href="http://www.fosback.com/seasonality_system.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.fosback.com/seasonality_system.htm</a><br />
or just check out this article.<br />
<a href="http://marketsci.wordpress.com/2010/03/09/fosback-seasonality-strategy/" rel="nofollow">http://marketsci.wordpress.com/2010/03/09/fosback-seasonality-strategy/</a></p>
<p>Fridays are better than Mondays and the month end period is better than the rest of the month and days around holidays are the best for positive stock market movement.</p>
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		<title>By: Samantha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Samantha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 22:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JD, thanks for the link to the 20&#039;s article. There&#039;s a lot of us 20-somethings around here, and it&#039;s good to see some advice for us specifically! I&#039;ll check out RJ&#039;s site too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JD, thanks for the link to the 20&#8242;s article. There&#8217;s a lot of us 20-somethings around here, and it&#8217;s good to see some advice for us specifically! I&#8217;ll check out RJ&#8217;s site too.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 20:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JD, will your Entrepreneur articles be online or just in the mag? Congrats on the new gig!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JD, will your Entrepreneur articles be online or just in the mag? Congrats on the new gig!</p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 18:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not usually a &quot;top 10 list&quot; kind of guy, but RJ&#039;s write-up is something that I can get behind. There&#039;s some really good advice there.

One gripe though. #1 is way over-prioritized compared to other items like paying down credit card and student loan debt. Advising people to pay cash for a vacation ahead of paying off CC and student debt is bad advice.

$40k of student loan debt at an average rate of 8% will cost you $3200 per year to put off. You&#039;re far better off buckling down and paying off your loans sooner than you are on a dream vacation for cash. Once you pay your loans down, that money that would have gone to the bank to pay off interest is better served paying for margaritas at the beach. Maybe RJ can shed some light on this particular decision?

I&#039;m 26 years old and have covered a large portion of what&#039;s here. I think it is absolutely reasonable if you start soon enough. Here&#039;s where I stand (if you&#039;re interested):

#1 - Outstanding
#2 - In Progress
#3 - Done
#4 - In Progress (See #2)
#5 - In Progress
#6 - Done
#7 - Done
#8 &amp; #9 - Will be done in Jan
#10 - Done
#11 - Done
#12 - Done
#13 - Incomplete
#14 - Done
#15 - Done
#16 - Done
#17 - Done
#18 - Incomplete
#19 - Not realistic in my view unless you&#039;re talking about variable expenses only.
#20 - Incomplete</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not usually a &#8220;top 10 list&#8221; kind of guy, but RJ&#8217;s write-up is something that I can get behind. There&#8217;s some really good advice there.</p>
<p>One gripe though. #1 is way over-prioritized compared to other items like paying down credit card and student loan debt. Advising people to pay cash for a vacation ahead of paying off CC and student debt is bad advice.</p>
<p>$40k of student loan debt at an average rate of 8% will cost you $3200 per year to put off. You&#8217;re far better off buckling down and paying off your loans sooner than you are on a dream vacation for cash. Once you pay your loans down, that money that would have gone to the bank to pay off interest is better served paying for margaritas at the beach. Maybe RJ can shed some light on this particular decision?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m 26 years old and have covered a large portion of what&#8217;s here. I think it is absolutely reasonable if you start soon enough. Here&#8217;s where I stand (if you&#8217;re interested):</p>
<p>#1 &#8211; Outstanding<br />
#2 &#8211; In Progress<br />
#3 &#8211; Done<br />
#4 &#8211; In Progress (See #2)<br />
#5 &#8211; In Progress<br />
#6 &#8211; Done<br />
#7 &#8211; Done<br />
#8 &amp; #9 &#8211; Will be done in Jan<br />
#10 &#8211; Done<br />
#11 &#8211; Done<br />
#12 &#8211; Done<br />
#13 &#8211; Incomplete<br />
#14 &#8211; Done<br />
#15 &#8211; Done<br />
#16 &#8211; Done<br />
#17 &#8211; Done<br />
#18 &#8211; Incomplete<br />
#19 &#8211; Not realistic in my view unless you&#8217;re talking about variable expenses only.<br />
#20 &#8211; Incomplete</p>
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		<title>By: Megan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Megan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 15:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with @6 (and recognize that RJ is just generalizing).  I&#039;m 27 and married with no kids - we are both still in graduate school though so our lives are different from my classmates who finished college at 22 and have had 5 years to build up.  That said, I DO have a 6 mo fund, I DO have sub-savings accounts, I DO monitor my credit (and have a fantastic score), I have no bad debt, I pay my CC in full each month, and I don&#039;t say yes to financial salespeople.  That said, we cannot at this time fully fund our Roth (and have no 401k), I don&#039;t know a retirement date (although I&#039;m investing like it&#039;s sooner than it will be), I donate time, not money, and I have no time for a side job (although my husband teaches lessons and has probably earned an extra $1000 over the year).  We are getting that degree to increase earning power though!

JD - if you do make a list for other years, or if anyone does, please keep in mind that we aren&#039;t all the same, that&#039;s the biggest problem I&#039;ve found with those lists, they assume we have kids, we all finished school by 22-24, we all own a home, we all plan on retirement asap, etc...I would like to see unique lists or paths that we can follow (like a pick-your-own-adventure book).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with @6 (and recognize that RJ is just generalizing).  I&#8217;m 27 and married with no kids &#8211; we are both still in graduate school though so our lives are different from my classmates who finished college at 22 and have had 5 years to build up.  That said, I DO have a 6 mo fund, I DO have sub-savings accounts, I DO monitor my credit (and have a fantastic score), I have no bad debt, I pay my CC in full each month, and I don&#8217;t say yes to financial salespeople.  That said, we cannot at this time fully fund our Roth (and have no 401k), I don&#8217;t know a retirement date (although I&#8217;m investing like it&#8217;s sooner than it will be), I donate time, not money, and I have no time for a side job (although my husband teaches lessons and has probably earned an extra $1000 over the year).  We are getting that degree to increase earning power though!</p>
<p>JD &#8211; if you do make a list for other years, or if anyone does, please keep in mind that we aren&#8217;t all the same, that&#8217;s the biggest problem I&#8217;ve found with those lists, they assume we have kids, we all finished school by 22-24, we all own a home, we all plan on retirement asap, etc&#8230;I would like to see unique lists or paths that we can follow (like a pick-your-own-adventure book).</p>
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		<title>By: Luke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 14:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the response RJ, it was a well thought out list that a lot of people can aim towards achieving.

Of course we&#039;re all different, but some universally sound advice there :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the response RJ, it was a well thought out list that a lot of people can aim towards achieving.</p>
<p>Of course we&#8217;re all different, but some universally sound advice there <img src='http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: RJ Weiss</title>
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		<dc:creator>RJ Weiss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 14:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@LifeandMyFinances - Thanks. Great to hear you&#039;re off to a great start. 

@Luke - Thanks Luke. My goal was to give an outline of different goals to reach in your 20&#039;s. It&#039;s not as if you have to reach them all. Although, if I were listing the goals from most important to least, a six month emergency fund would be in the top five most important. 

@JD -  I can&#039;t thank you enough for the link.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@LifeandMyFinances &#8211; Thanks. Great to hear you&#8217;re off to a great start. </p>
<p>@Luke &#8211; Thanks Luke. My goal was to give an outline of different goals to reach in your 20&#8242;s. It&#8217;s not as if you have to reach them all. Although, if I were listing the goals from most important to least, a six month emergency fund would be in the top five most important. </p>
<p>@JD &#8211;  I can&#8217;t thank you enough for the link.</p>
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		<title>By: Luke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 13:43:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ #6 - I meant for many people it&#039;s not possible (certainly not in the UK, where I&#039;m from).

From what I read, it&#039;s possible to buy multi-unit residential properties in the USA for $100k or less (very rough estimate from reading PF blogs there!) - the average price for a house in the UK is over £200k/$350k. 

So, taking out a mortgage on a reasonable home and saving 6 months of living expenses by 30 doesn&#039;t look very likely here!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ #6 &#8211; I meant for many people it&#8217;s not possible (certainly not in the UK, where I&#8217;m from).</p>
<p>From what I read, it&#8217;s possible to buy multi-unit residential properties in the USA for $100k or less (very rough estimate from reading PF blogs there!) &#8211; the average price for a house in the UK is over £200k/$350k. </p>
<p>So, taking out a mortgage on a reasonable home and saving 6 months of living expenses by 30 doesn&#8217;t look very likely here!</p>
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		<title>By: Irene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Irene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 11:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Buy a finacial plan certificate as a gift for your friends with only $99. Here is the link:  http://www.peoplesfinancialadvisor.com/gift.php</description>
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		<title>By: Reaver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reaver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 11:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I happened to read #5 so let me comment on that before my own... I JUST turned 30 in midOCT, and JUST managed 6mos of expenses in savings before that point. Not sure if he meant it&#039;s not possible, or not necessary. But I absolutely could have done it sooner if I had seen the light a little sooner. Even married, single income, 1 kid.
And as for the Milestones... I don&#039;t think it&#039;s a very feasible idea (thus why it really hasn&#039;t been done) There are SOO many differences in peoples lives that it&#039;s not going to be valid. I&#039;ve been noticing that I have classmates from Highschool, who have 10year old children and a home. My wife and I have a 3yo,&amp; currently rent. And some who aren&#039;t even married yet. These differences shift life patterns alot. Not to mention differences due to College,Military service, and &quot;Parental Support&quot;. I prefer to gauge myself off peers at a relavent life period.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I happened to read #5 so let me comment on that before my own&#8230; I JUST turned 30 in midOCT, and JUST managed 6mos of expenses in savings before that point. Not sure if he meant it&#8217;s not possible, or not necessary. But I absolutely could have done it sooner if I had seen the light a little sooner. Even married, single income, 1 kid.<br />
And as for the Milestones&#8230; I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s a very feasible idea (thus why it really hasn&#8217;t been done) There are SOO many differences in peoples lives that it&#8217;s not going to be valid. I&#8217;ve been noticing that I have classmates from Highschool, who have 10year old children and a home. My wife and I have a 3yo,&amp; currently rent. And some who aren&#8217;t even married yet. These differences shift life patterns alot. Not to mention differences due to College,Military service, and &#8220;Parental Support&#8221;. I prefer to gauge myself off peers at a relavent life period.</p>
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		<title>By: Luke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 10:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I liked the financial milestones link as well, but I think it&#039;s pretty unrealistic to have 6 months of living expenses saved by the time you&#039;re 30 (unless you&#039;re on a low wage).

Unfortunately life, mortgages and children often get in the way! 6 months of living expenses for me would be a 10% deposit on a modest 2 bedroom flat in a reasonable area - I wouldn&#039;t have this sort of money just sitting around getting pounded by inflation!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked the financial milestones link as well, but I think it&#8217;s pretty unrealistic to have 6 months of living expenses saved by the time you&#8217;re 30 (unless you&#8217;re on a low wage).</p>
<p>Unfortunately life, mortgages and children often get in the way! 6 months of living expenses for me would be a 10% deposit on a modest 2 bedroom flat in a reasonable area &#8211; I wouldn&#8217;t have this sort of money just sitting around getting pounded by inflation!</p>
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		<title>By: jammer(six)</title>
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		<dc:creator>jammer(six)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 05:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You, my friend, are a genius. And you&#039;re giving away this insight for free? Crazy. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You, my friend, are a genius. And you&#8217;re giving away this insight for free? Crazy. <img src='http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Slug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Slug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 04:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally I buy all my stocks on days that end in -y and don&#039;t start with s-.  Seems to work out pretty well.  Then I spend the rest of my time figuring out which stocks to buy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally I buy all my stocks on days that end in -y and don&#8217;t start with s-.  Seems to work out pretty well.  Then I spend the rest of my time figuring out which stocks to buy.</p>
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		<title>By: LifeAndMyFinances</title>
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		<dc:creator>LifeAndMyFinances</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 00:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I liked the 20 financial milestones. I am 25 and many of my goals are summed up in this post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked the 20 financial milestones. I am 25 and many of my goals are summed up in this post!</p>
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		<title>By: Brett</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2010/12/15/spare-change-stock-market-genius-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-1020102</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 00:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JD,
Congratulations on the article ;) I am checking out the other articles you mentioned and they are quite useful. I didn&#039;t know NNT had a new book out, but I&#039;ll have to take a look. I enjoyed the Black Swan!

Brett</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JD,<br />
Congratulations on the article <img src='http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  I am checking out the other articles you mentioned and they are quite useful. I didn&#8217;t know NNT had a new book out, but I&#8217;ll have to take a look. I enjoyed the Black Swan!</p>
<p>Brett</p>
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