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		<title>By: Heather</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Dec 2010 00:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My husband learned to cook by following simple recipes. He&#039;s an excellent recipe-follower now, with the occasional &quot;it said teaspoons but I put in tablespoons.&quot;

Since we have a lot of really good recipes, the recipe-following skill is sufficient.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My husband learned to cook by following simple recipes. He&#8217;s an excellent recipe-follower now, with the occasional &#8220;it said teaspoons but I put in tablespoons.&#8221;</p>
<p>Since we have a lot of really good recipes, the recipe-following skill is sufficient.</p>
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		<title>By: hardworking single ma</title>
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		<dc:creator>hardworking single ma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Dec 2010 19:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Andrea - right on!
When my husband told me that he&#039;d HELP me to raise _our_ child and would even occasionally LET me rest if I was too exhausted, it felt like I was a slave whose generous owner decided to be nice and not to work her to death. It sure didn&#039;t create an impression that we were partners with equal share of responsibilities. I was working full time outside of the home at that time and earning more than him, btw.
Soon the husband was downgraded to an ex and now he has to do his 50% of child rearing without any begging, thanking, etc. Plus cook and clean after himself. I refused to &quot;do it all&quot; :p</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Andrea &#8211; right on!<br />
When my husband told me that he&#8217;d HELP me to raise _our_ child and would even occasionally LET me rest if I was too exhausted, it felt like I was a slave whose generous owner decided to be nice and not to work her to death. It sure didn&#8217;t create an impression that we were partners with equal share of responsibilities. I was working full time outside of the home at that time and earning more than him, btw.<br />
Soon the husband was downgraded to an ex and now he has to do his 50% of child rearing without any begging, thanking, etc. Plus cook and clean after himself. I refused to &#8220;do it all&#8221; :p</p>
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		<title>By: Andrea @ Consultant Journal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrea @ Consultant Journal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2010 21:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting post. You made some good points here. I tried not to bristle, though, when you positioned men&#039;s contribution as help. I sort of got the impression that this leaves women as the default homemakers and that men are helping, not partnering. I&#039;m not sure that was your intent, but it would be great if society could work toward word chocies that support collaboration, so that there is no inherent expectation of role.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting post. You made some good points here. I tried not to bristle, though, when you positioned men&#8217;s contribution as help. I sort of got the impression that this leaves women as the default homemakers and that men are helping, not partnering. I&#8217;m not sure that was your intent, but it would be great if society could work toward word chocies that support collaboration, so that there is no inherent expectation of role.</p>
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		<title>By: bella</title>
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		<dc:creator>bella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2010 22:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also: how to learn to cook.  Practice</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also: how to learn to cook.  Practice</p>
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		<title>By: bella</title>
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		<dc:creator>bella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2010 22:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know from an earlier post this month that my 6 figure income is unusual. But for me (or my husband) to stay home full time would effectively cost our family 100k a year. And realistically the mother staying home and just devoting all her time to her children is a relatively recent notion. Prehistoric societies had both parents working &#039;full time&#039; and communal childcare. I view my nanny and my family as a very small village. She helps me to parent my child(part time) and my income improves both our families bottom line. So yea. Were cmiswra</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know from an earlier post this month that my 6 figure income is unusual. But for me (or my husband) to stay home full time would effectively cost our family 100k a year. And realistically the mother staying home and just devoting all her time to her children is a relatively recent notion. Prehistoric societies had both parents working &#8216;full time&#8217; and communal childcare. I view my nanny and my family as a very small village. She helps me to parent my child(part time) and my income improves both our families bottom line. So yea. Were cmiswra</p>
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		<title>By: CathyG</title>
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		<dc:creator>CathyG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 18:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you are techy and want to learn how to cook, try http://www.cookingforengineers.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you are techy and want to learn how to cook, try <a href="http://www.cookingforengineers.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.cookingforengineers.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Nicole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 17:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, the American Time Use Survey (ATUS) does find that fathers are spending more time with their kids than they used to.  It&#039;s a fantastic survey:  http://www.bls.gov/tus/ .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, the American Time Use Survey (ATUS) does find that fathers are spending more time with their kids than they used to.  It&#8217;s a fantastic survey:  <a href="http://www.bls.gov/tus/" rel="nofollow">http://www.bls.gov/tus/</a> .</p>
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		<title>By: Emily</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 16:51:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just wanted to say that I always enjoy Robert&#039;s contributions because they are extremely insightful and entertaining, please keep up the good work. I can commiserate as a  tired single mom who is both mother and father to my 3 year old daughter...parenting is expensive and exhausting and worth every penny and minute. And Mystery Science Theater 3000 is wonderful and I miss it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wanted to say that I always enjoy Robert&#8217;s contributions because they are extremely insightful and entertaining, please keep up the good work. I can commiserate as a  tired single mom who is both mother and father to my 3 year old daughter&#8230;parenting is expensive and exhausting and worth every penny and minute. And Mystery Science Theater 3000 is wonderful and I miss it!</p>
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		<title>By: Julie Sibert</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2010/12/15/the-cost-of-being-a-better-parent/comment-page-2/#comment-1022712</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie Sibert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 16:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post... I do think dads are more involved!

The part of your post that struck me was how hard it is to get everything done that you want to get done.  I can relate. (we have a 12-year-old and 6-year-old).  Seems so much energy, time and money goes just to maintaining -- there is little cushion and room for thinking, dreaming, planning, reflecting, refining.

I&#039;ve learned, though, that little tips here and there help.  The GRS site is awesome for that!  Thx for the post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post&#8230; I do think dads are more involved!</p>
<p>The part of your post that struck me was how hard it is to get everything done that you want to get done.  I can relate. (we have a 12-year-old and 6-year-old).  Seems so much energy, time and money goes just to maintaining &#8212; there is little cushion and room for thinking, dreaming, planning, reflecting, refining.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve learned, though, that little tips here and there help.  The GRS site is awesome for that!  Thx for the post!</p>
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		<title>By: Alexandra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 14:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Loved the article.

My husband is way more involved than my dad ever was.  But on the other hand, I am also way more involved than my mother was, and I am a working mom while she stayed at home!  I think the standards of parenting have changed a lot since the last generation.

I do find that for myself and the moms I talk to, the moms are still carrying the majority of the &quot;house-work&quot; burden, even while working the same hours as their husbands.  

But I also do not feel as crunched for time as I used to when my daughter was younger.  Things that have helped are: preparing her what she wants to eat (simple, plain foods) instead of fussier meals that generally did not get eaten, having a cleaner come in every few weeks, having a bin system for all her toys to make daily clean up easier, and having a set schedule that has her in bed at 8pm sharp each night to give me a bit of downtime to myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loved the article.</p>
<p>My husband is way more involved than my dad ever was.  But on the other hand, I am also way more involved than my mother was, and I am a working mom while she stayed at home!  I think the standards of parenting have changed a lot since the last generation.</p>
<p>I do find that for myself and the moms I talk to, the moms are still carrying the majority of the &#8220;house-work&#8221; burden, even while working the same hours as their husbands.  </p>
<p>But I also do not feel as crunched for time as I used to when my daughter was younger.  Things that have helped are: preparing her what she wants to eat (simple, plain foods) instead of fussier meals that generally did not get eaten, having a cleaner come in every few weeks, having a bin system for all her toys to make daily clean up easier, and having a set schedule that has her in bed at 8pm sharp each night to give me a bit of downtime to myself.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 14:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the concrete signs of the changing attitudes toward parenting in general and fathers in particular, are the baby changing stations showing up in men&#039;s restrooms. When I first saw one, I thought, how *would* a father out alone with a baby change the baby&#039;s diaper, without one? (I&#039;m single, so not an issue for me yet.) I don&#039;t think anyone in Ward Cleaver&#039;s day would have even considered that as a problem, let alone expected any public restrooms to offer a solution.</description>
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		<title>By: Nathaniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathaniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 07:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as cooking goes I would recommend working up to it:
1. What do you like? Is there a packet mix for it? try making cakes or cookies using a packet mix.
2. Once you have cooked *or burnt* them a couple of times try making the same thing from a scratch. That way you already know what it should look like at each stage.
3. Adapt the base receipt by adding nuts or chocolate chips or MnMs, etc.

The next three things that I recommend learning are:
1. How to cook pasta. (Generally better to slightly under-cook than over-cook).
2. How to make a white sauce.
3. How to cook mince.

With these three key skills you can make:
* Spaghetti = pasta + mince
* Fettucini Carbonara = pasta + white sauce
* Lasagna = pasta + mince + white sauce
* Nachos = mince + white sauce + chips
* Savory Mince = mince
* Pasta with any bottled sauce = pasta
* Tacos = mince

Once you are comfortable with the mince and white sauce you can expand to things that are similar:
white sauce -&gt; custard
white sauce -&gt; any sauce
white sauce -&gt; gravy
white sauce -&gt; pancakes

mince -&gt; stew
mince -&gt; satay
mince -&gt; stir fry
mince -&gt; chicken


I personally find it easy to kick my wife out of the kitchen because she can not help herself and always ends up taking over which stops it from being fun and stops you from making mistakes and learning from them.

It also might be a good idea to have a backup plan in case something goes wrong (it will). Cakes and cookies are good because you can live without them. Lunch is also a good meal to make since you can always have sandwiches instead.

But instead of learning to lots of things you only need to learn to make 4/5 things well:
1. Cakes - packet mix then from scratch.
2. Cookies - packet mix then from scratch.
3. Pasta 
4. Mince 
5. White sauce</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as cooking goes I would recommend working up to it:<br />
1. What do you like? Is there a packet mix for it? try making cakes or cookies using a packet mix.<br />
2. Once you have cooked *or burnt* them a couple of times try making the same thing from a scratch. That way you already know what it should look like at each stage.<br />
3. Adapt the base receipt by adding nuts or chocolate chips or MnMs, etc.</p>
<p>The next three things that I recommend learning are:<br />
1. How to cook pasta. (Generally better to slightly under-cook than over-cook).<br />
2. How to make a white sauce.<br />
3. How to cook mince.</p>
<p>With these three key skills you can make:<br />
* Spaghetti = pasta + mince<br />
* Fettucini Carbonara = pasta + white sauce<br />
* Lasagna = pasta + mince + white sauce<br />
* Nachos = mince + white sauce + chips<br />
* Savory Mince = mince<br />
* Pasta with any bottled sauce = pasta<br />
* Tacos = mince</p>
<p>Once you are comfortable with the mince and white sauce you can expand to things that are similar:<br />
white sauce -&gt; custard<br />
white sauce -&gt; any sauce<br />
white sauce -&gt; gravy<br />
white sauce -&gt; pancakes</p>
<p>mince -&gt; stew<br />
mince -&gt; satay<br />
mince -&gt; stir fry<br />
mince -&gt; chicken</p>
<p>I personally find it easy to kick my wife out of the kitchen because she can not help herself and always ends up taking over which stops it from being fun and stops you from making mistakes and learning from them.</p>
<p>It also might be a good idea to have a backup plan in case something goes wrong (it will). Cakes and cookies are good because you can live without them. Lunch is also a good meal to make since you can always have sandwiches instead.</p>
<p>But instead of learning to lots of things you only need to learn to make 4/5 things well:<br />
1. Cakes &#8211; packet mix then from scratch.<br />
2. Cookies &#8211; packet mix then from scratch.<br />
3. Pasta<br />
4. Mince<br />
5. White sauce</p>
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		<title>By: Rosa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rosa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 06:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>on a side note - I see the crock pot advocates have already commented, so I have to make a plug for a pressure cooker and Lorna Sass&#039;s book &quot;vegetarian cooking under pressure&quot; - i&#039;ve adapted all our old crock pot recipes to the pressure cooker easily, plus the veggie- and bean-heavy stuff in Sass&#039;s book are way better than any healthy crock pot recipe I ever found in years of looking. My mom&#039;s ham &amp; split pea soup takes 20 minutes total - 5 to cut up ham and measure things, 10 to get to pressure, 5 to release &amp; serve. As opposed to all day in the crock pot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>on a side note &#8211; I see the crock pot advocates have already commented, so I have to make a plug for a pressure cooker and Lorna Sass&#8217;s book &#8220;vegetarian cooking under pressure&#8221; &#8211; i&#8217;ve adapted all our old crock pot recipes to the pressure cooker easily, plus the veggie- and bean-heavy stuff in Sass&#8217;s book are way better than any healthy crock pot recipe I ever found in years of looking. My mom&#8217;s ham &amp; split pea soup takes 20 minutes total &#8211; 5 to cut up ham and measure things, 10 to get to pressure, 5 to release &amp; serve. As opposed to all day in the crock pot.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Blakely</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Blakely</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 03:04:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting article... I do think that most dad&#039;s today are more involved... In fact so involved that some parents tend to try and run their kids lives as if they were adults.  Over-scheduling and over-committing them and the entire family.  It seems at times that our ultra-competitive society has gotten a bit out of hands with it&#039;s kids. My wife and I purposefully limit the number of activities and always make sure there is more open time in a week for the kids to just be kids versus scheduled sports, actinides and events.  Would love to hear what tactics others use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting article&#8230; I do think that most dad&#8217;s today are more involved&#8230; In fact so involved that some parents tend to try and run their kids lives as if they were adults.  Over-scheduling and over-committing them and the entire family.  It seems at times that our ultra-competitive society has gotten a bit out of hands with it&#8217;s kids. My wife and I purposefully limit the number of activities and always make sure there is more open time in a week for the kids to just be kids versus scheduled sports, actinides and events.  Would love to hear what tactics others use.</p>
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		<title>By: bogart</title>
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		<dc:creator>bogart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 02:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Semi-OT, if memory serves, you like Elizabeth Warren&#039;s book, All Your Worth; her book The Two-Income Trap is an interesting take on some of the issues you mention here (I don&#039;t recall her taking up -- haha -- the toilet-seat issue).  The title notwithstanding, she&#039;s not advocating that one parent stay home, but she makes an interesting case for how an assortment of society-level phenomena (for example, local funding of public schools) have put pressures on families in a way that leaves many of us feeling that we&#039;re running just to stay in place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Semi-OT, if memory serves, you like Elizabeth Warren&#8217;s book, All Your Worth; her book The Two-Income Trap is an interesting take on some of the issues you mention here (I don&#8217;t recall her taking up &#8212; haha &#8212; the toilet-seat issue).  The title notwithstanding, she&#8217;s not advocating that one parent stay home, but she makes an interesting case for how an assortment of society-level phenomena (for example, local funding of public schools) have put pressures on families in a way that leaves many of us feeling that we&#8217;re running just to stay in place.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 02:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@91 MR--  I was TOTALLY wondering about that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@91 MR&#8211;  I was TOTALLY wondering about that.</p>
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		<title>By: Money Reasons</title>
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		<dc:creator>Money Reasons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 02:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Learn to cook?

I&#039;ve checked out the blog from your first commenter, and his site is excellent!  It&#039;s a little advanced for me, but I plan on trying a few things he has listed.

Oh, and by the way, that Pam Anderson’s “How To Cook Without A Book” isn&#039;t Pamela Anderson from Baywatch...</description>
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<p>I&#8217;ve checked out the blog from your first commenter, and his site is excellent!  It&#8217;s a little advanced for me, but I plan on trying a few things he has listed.</p>
<p>Oh, and by the way, that Pam Anderson’s “How To Cook Without A Book” isn&#8217;t Pamela Anderson from Baywatch&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: DadinNC</title>
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		<dc:creator>DadinNC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 01:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m the father of a 1-year-old.  My Dad was hands-on in all the right ways from the get go.  Both my parents worked and I spent days with my grandmother, but they were also both teachers, so we had lots of quality time after school and in the summers.

I work 40 hrs in an office 35 minutes from home, and worry that I will not be able to give my son the time my Dad gave me.  We spend lots of time together on the weekends, and I try to put him to bed every night and play with him in the bathtub before. I also see him for about an hour each morning. Our relationship is strong and loving but I want to make sure I never become complacent about committing time to him.

I try to clean and do laundry as time permits, but it&#039;s not easy.

My father-in-law was born only one year after my Dad, but my FIL was raised with a rural Southern worldview, and his gender role assumptions are much more traditional.  He waited in the hall for all his kids to be born, my Dad held my Mom&#039;s hand each time.

I think more of the US has moved towards acceptance of the role that my Dad assumed for fatherhood in the 1980s that was not encouraged for my FIL at the time.

The dual-earner trap has also forced the hand of families. My wife and I try to give each other breaks and nights off to pursue our hobbies, to the extent they still exist.

I think the key lies in saying &quot;no&quot; to the right things.  Write a core statement down of what you REALLY want to do in life.  Then do it.  Say no to other commitments.  It&#039;s amazing how much small stuff you take on before kids that is sort of &quot;off-topic&quot; from your biggest priorities because you can do so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m the father of a 1-year-old.  My Dad was hands-on in all the right ways from the get go.  Both my parents worked and I spent days with my grandmother, but they were also both teachers, so we had lots of quality time after school and in the summers.</p>
<p>I work 40 hrs in an office 35 minutes from home, and worry that I will not be able to give my son the time my Dad gave me.  We spend lots of time together on the weekends, and I try to put him to bed every night and play with him in the bathtub before. I also see him for about an hour each morning. Our relationship is strong and loving but I want to make sure I never become complacent about committing time to him.</p>
<p>I try to clean and do laundry as time permits, but it&#8217;s not easy.</p>
<p>My father-in-law was born only one year after my Dad, but my FIL was raised with a rural Southern worldview, and his gender role assumptions are much more traditional.  He waited in the hall for all his kids to be born, my Dad held my Mom&#8217;s hand each time.</p>
<p>I think more of the US has moved towards acceptance of the role that my Dad assumed for fatherhood in the 1980s that was not encouraged for my FIL at the time.</p>
<p>The dual-earner trap has also forced the hand of families. My wife and I try to give each other breaks and nights off to pursue our hobbies, to the extent they still exist.</p>
<p>I think the key lies in saying &#8220;no&#8221; to the right things.  Write a core statement down of what you REALLY want to do in life.  Then do it.  Say no to other commitments.  It&#8217;s amazing how much small stuff you take on before kids that is sort of &#8220;off-topic&#8221; from your biggest priorities because you can do so.</p>
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		<title>By: Barb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 00:38:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#61 CJ. I have to ask, why would it be a choice to clean/garden OR spend time with your kids. I DIY all the stuff that is discussed and yes, I spent time with my kids. they helped me garden, the cleaned. We canned together and cooked together.  Somewhere theres this big assumption that &quot;spending time with your kids&quot; requires sitting down on the floor and playing legos or sitting side by side. While that involvement is important, so is the companionship of basic daily activities done with your children, be it gardening, cooking, sewing, ome improvement, garage saling or any other normal day to day activity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#61 CJ. I have to ask, why would it be a choice to clean/garden OR spend time with your kids. I DIY all the stuff that is discussed and yes, I spent time with my kids. they helped me garden, the cleaned. We canned together and cooked together.  Somewhere theres this big assumption that &#8220;spending time with your kids&#8221; requires sitting down on the floor and playing legos or sitting side by side. While that involvement is important, so is the companionship of basic daily activities done with your children, be it gardening, cooking, sewing, ome improvement, garage saling or any other normal day to day activity.</p>
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		<title>By: gwendolyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>gwendolyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2010 23:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dont feel bad, I dont cook.  I look to my husband for this.  In my family the joke is we learn to cook once we have kids.  Im assuming this will happen when the baby comes and then when it can eat solids.  So I still have time to procrastinate!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dont feel bad, I dont cook.  I look to my husband for this.  In my family the joke is we learn to cook once we have kids.  Im assuming this will happen when the baby comes and then when it can eat solids.  So I still have time to procrastinate!</p>
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		<title>By: Betsy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Betsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2010 23:46:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sad to see the &quot;Mommy Wars&quot; spreading to daddies and non-daddies on this board.  There doesn&#039;t have to be a war over this.  There&#039;s enough choices to go around for everyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sad to see the &#8220;Mommy Wars&#8221; spreading to daddies and non-daddies on this board.  There doesn&#8217;t have to be a war over this.  There&#8217;s enough choices to go around for everyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2010 23:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aside from personal preferences and stereotypical gender rules... studies show that a huge amount of germs get sprayed out of the toilet if the lid is left up when it is flushed. In my opinion, every one should put the seat &amp; lid down... and most people are completely capable of lifting one (or both as needed), and returning them to the closed position in very short order. It&#039;s just a matter of deciding to make it a habit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aside from personal preferences and stereotypical gender rules&#8230; studies show that a huge amount of germs get sprayed out of the toilet if the lid is left up when it is flushed. In my opinion, every one should put the seat &amp; lid down&#8230; and most people are completely capable of lifting one (or both as needed), and returning them to the closed position in very short order. It&#8217;s just a matter of deciding to make it a habit.</p>
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		<title>By: IRS Hitman</title>
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		<dc:creator>IRS Hitman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2010 23:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The mysterious science theatre clip made me smile. I work constantly when I have the kids I make the most out of every second I have with them. I tried to get an involved as possible, taking them on camping trips, etc.

The working dad has it harder these days than in the proverbial &quot;Glory Days&quot; for sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The mysterious science theatre clip made me smile. I work constantly when I have the kids I make the most out of every second I have with them. I tried to get an involved as possible, taking them on camping trips, etc.</p>
<p>The working dad has it harder these days than in the proverbial &#8220;Glory Days&#8221; for sure.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacq @ Single Mom Rich Mom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacq @ Single Mom Rich Mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2010 22:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Loved the post - very funny!  

But I had no idea dual parent households had such time management problems.  
I think parents are way too helicopter-like compared to the way they used to be which isn&#039;t so wonderful.  
When in doubt put the oven on 400 degrees.
Don&#039;t buy clothes you have to iron.

Note to self:  Remember to more effusively thank my 10 y.o. the next time he makes supper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loved the post &#8211; very funny!  </p>
<p>But I had no idea dual parent households had such time management problems.<br />
I think parents are way too helicopter-like compared to the way they used to be which isn&#8217;t so wonderful.<br />
When in doubt put the oven on 400 degrees.<br />
Don&#8217;t buy clothes you have to iron.</p>
<p>Note to self:  Remember to more effusively thank my 10 y.o. the next time he makes supper.</p>
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		<title>By: Madeline</title>
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		<dc:creator>Madeline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2010 22:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The secret to learning to cook is to get excited about it. For this purpose, I recommend browsing at the book store for cook books with wonderful photographs.  When something grabs you, buy it and give it a try.  I also recommend listening to &quot;The Splendid Table&quot; on NPR.  Try the New York Times site and www.npr.org for good recipes with attractive pictures.  Play music in the kitchen and have a glass of wine while you wait for things to simmer. And I agree with another person who suggested pot roast.  It&#039;s the first thing I learned to cook.  It&#039;s so satisfying.  Have fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The secret to learning to cook is to get excited about it. For this purpose, I recommend browsing at the book store for cook books with wonderful photographs.  When something grabs you, buy it and give it a try.  I also recommend listening to &#8220;The Splendid Table&#8221; on NPR.  Try the New York Times site and <a href="http://www.npr.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.npr.org</a> for good recipes with attractive pictures.  Play music in the kitchen and have a glass of wine while you wait for things to simmer. And I agree with another person who suggested pot roast.  It&#8217;s the first thing I learned to cook.  It&#8217;s so satisfying.  Have fun.</p>
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		<title>By: chacha1</title>
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		<dc:creator>chacha1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2010 21:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lots of advice on cooking here.  :-)  Mine would be, if you don&#039;t really want to learn to cook, find some other way to live up to that promise.  

If you DO want to learn, ask your wife if you can shadow her in the kitchen a couple of nights a week and take notes on what she does (simple recipes).  

Then do all the cleanup.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lots of advice on cooking here.  <img src='http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   Mine would be, if you don&#8217;t really want to learn to cook, find some other way to live up to that promise.  </p>
<p>If you DO want to learn, ask your wife if you can shadow her in the kitchen a couple of nights a week and take notes on what she does (simple recipes).  </p>
<p>Then do all the cleanup.</p>
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		<title>By: shauna</title>
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		<dc:creator>shauna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2010 21:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been &quot;learning to cook&quot; for twenty years now, and I still consider myself a novice. There were some great suggestions already made... to those I would add:

- ask your friends who cook to share with you their &quot;easy&quot; recipes. Experienced cooks will have more than a few of these on hand, and they can also give you helpful hints like &quot;it says to cook that for twenty minutes, but you really need thirty&quot;
- give yourself enough time...pick a day off and a fairly straightforward recipe, and let yourself work through the steps at your own pace, when there aren&#039;t starving people glaring at you
- the blog Casual Kitchen has some great articles. I recommend reading their pointers on &quot;how to tell if a recipe is worth your time&quot; and &quot;the 80/20 rule&quot;
- double check that you have all your ingredients on hand before you start. If you aren&#039;t the primary cook in your house, you might think that bottle of dijon mustard is still in the fridge, when in fact it was used up three days ago
- get everything out and prepped ahead of time. Read the recipe thoroughly, and watch for &quot;gotchas&quot; like temperatures in Celsius in stead of Fahrenheit (I&#039;ve ruined many a meal this way...)
- as much as you can, watch others cook. Recipes often don&#039;t tell you things like how to tell when &quot;the liquid has run out of the mushrooms&quot;, etc.

As for the parenting subject, my hubby and I have chosen not to have kids because we just know we don&#039;t have time in our lives right now. I sympathize with folks who are trying to do it all - I know I couldn&#039;t handle it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been &#8220;learning to cook&#8221; for twenty years now, and I still consider myself a novice. There were some great suggestions already made&#8230; to those I would add:</p>
<p>- ask your friends who cook to share with you their &#8220;easy&#8221; recipes. Experienced cooks will have more than a few of these on hand, and they can also give you helpful hints like &#8220;it says to cook that for twenty minutes, but you really need thirty&#8221;<br />
- give yourself enough time&#8230;pick a day off and a fairly straightforward recipe, and let yourself work through the steps at your own pace, when there aren&#8217;t starving people glaring at you<br />
- the blog Casual Kitchen has some great articles. I recommend reading their pointers on &#8220;how to tell if a recipe is worth your time&#8221; and &#8220;the 80/20 rule&#8221;<br />
- double check that you have all your ingredients on hand before you start. If you aren&#8217;t the primary cook in your house, you might think that bottle of dijon mustard is still in the fridge, when in fact it was used up three days ago<br />
- get everything out and prepped ahead of time. Read the recipe thoroughly, and watch for &#8220;gotchas&#8221; like temperatures in Celsius in stead of Fahrenheit (I&#8217;ve ruined many a meal this way&#8230;)<br />
- as much as you can, watch others cook. Recipes often don&#8217;t tell you things like how to tell when &#8220;the liquid has run out of the mushrooms&#8221;, etc.</p>
<p>As for the parenting subject, my hubby and I have chosen not to have kids because we just know we don&#8217;t have time in our lives right now. I sympathize with folks who are trying to do it all &#8211; I know I couldn&#8217;t handle it!</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2010 21:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to be super career driven.  I used to be an uber-entreprenuer.  I used to carefully manage my budget.  I used to think we &quot;could do without&quot;.  Then, a very wise older gentleman changed my life with this:

&quot;You only have 10 summers with your kids&quot;

Think about that... the first 4, they don&#039;t remember, the last 4 (14-18) they don&#039;t want to be with you.  Each time I consider spending a weekend doing something to save $ at the expense of doing something fun with the kids, I think of that phrase.  

Sure, I&#039;d love to reap the rewards of compounding gains on my fat RRSP.  But if it comes at the expense of seeing my 5 year old&#039;s face when she sees Belle at Disney world, I&#039;d rather work a few more years in retirement or even... eat dog food when I&#039;m 95 (at which point who cares).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to be super career driven.  I used to be an uber-entreprenuer.  I used to carefully manage my budget.  I used to think we &#8220;could do without&#8221;.  Then, a very wise older gentleman changed my life with this:</p>
<p>&#8220;You only have 10 summers with your kids&#8221;</p>
<p>Think about that&#8230; the first 4, they don&#8217;t remember, the last 4 (14-18) they don&#8217;t want to be with you.  Each time I consider spending a weekend doing something to save $ at the expense of doing something fun with the kids, I think of that phrase.  </p>
<p>Sure, I&#8217;d love to reap the rewards of compounding gains on my fat RRSP.  But if it comes at the expense of seeing my 5 year old&#8217;s face when she sees Belle at Disney world, I&#8217;d rather work a few more years in retirement or even&#8230; eat dog food when I&#8217;m 95 (at which point who cares).</p>
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		<title>By: Carla</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2010 20:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess it depends on the people in your circle.  If you are an involved parent (father), its natural that all your friends will probably be the same way. I know and see people of all types.  I guess if you&#039;re somewhat middle classed, college educated, &quot;enlightened&quot;, well-read, and all that jazz, then yes.  I see a lot of the contrary as well.  Its not cut and dry, black or white.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess it depends on the people in your circle.  If you are an involved parent (father), its natural that all your friends will probably be the same way. I know and see people of all types.  I guess if you&#8217;re somewhat middle classed, college educated, &#8220;enlightened&#8221;, well-read, and all that jazz, then yes.  I see a lot of the contrary as well.  Its not cut and dry, black or white.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2010 20:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Set your DVR to record Good Eats any time it airs on the Food Network, and put it on whenever there is nothing else to watch.  I have seen every episode of that show, and just by watching, I pick up on techniques, learn recipes (or better yet, learn what combinations of ingredients go well together), and have a desire to try them all out.  I think its a great way to learn basic cooking techniques</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Set your DVR to record Good Eats any time it airs on the Food Network, and put it on whenever there is nothing else to watch.  I have seen every episode of that show, and just by watching, I pick up on techniques, learn recipes (or better yet, learn what combinations of ingredients go well together), and have a desire to try them all out.  I think its a great way to learn basic cooking techniques</p>
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