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		<title>By: Julien Couvreur</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julien Couvreur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jan 2011 17:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the excellent post. You highlight a most fundamental truth of economic analysis: value is subjective. 

This has many consequences when you think about central planning or political paternalism.

Here&#039;s an excellent explanation of the subjective theory of value, how it relates to exchange and differs from money prices: http://mises.org/AUSTECON/CHAP4.ASP</description>
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<p>Thanks for the excellent post. You highlight a most fundamental truth of economic analysis: value is subjective. </p>
<p>This has many consequences when you think about central planning or political paternalism.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s an excellent explanation of the subjective theory of value, how it relates to exchange and differs from money prices: <a href="http://mises.org/AUSTECON/CHAP4.ASP" rel="nofollow">http://mises.org/AUSTECON/CHAP4.ASP</a></p>
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		<title>By: Early Retirement Extreme</title>
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		<dc:creator>Early Retirement Extreme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Jan 2011 01:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1) To increase the perceived value of savings, save enough to provide a material income from the savings. 

2) To increase perceived value of stuff, own less stuff so as to use what you own more often. This keeps the experience of the stuff fresh in mind.

The two works together. I think you need to do better than saving 15% and spending 85% to reach that level. That&#039;s simply too little savings to realize the income and too many expenses to appreciate each expense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1) To increase the perceived value of savings, save enough to provide a material income from the savings. </p>
<p>2) To increase perceived value of stuff, own less stuff so as to use what you own more often. This keeps the experience of the stuff fresh in mind.</p>
<p>The two works together. I think you need to do better than saving 15% and spending 85% to reach that level. That&#8217;s simply too little savings to realize the income and too many expenses to appreciate each expense.</p>
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		<title>By: Postparty82</title>
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		<dc:creator>Postparty82</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jan 2011 08:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good article!  I&#039;d never put much thought into how social media (and blogs like this) have saved me money as forms of free entertainment.  

I find the idea of &quot;impulsive saving&quot; has helped me a lot to save towards my goal.  I simply keep track of the things I want and can afford to waste money on while shopping (but can do without), resist the purchase, and put into my savings account.

Example: case of beer $15, Candy $3, DVD $10.  Instead of buying these, its an easy one time deposit of $28 into my savings.  Though... I don&#039;t always resist the beer urge like I should :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article!  I&#8217;d never put much thought into how social media (and blogs like this) have saved me money as forms of free entertainment.  </p>
<p>I find the idea of &#8220;impulsive saving&#8221; has helped me a lot to save towards my goal.  I simply keep track of the things I want and can afford to waste money on while shopping (but can do without), resist the purchase, and put into my savings account.</p>
<p>Example: case of beer $15, Candy $3, DVD $10.  Instead of buying these, its an easy one time deposit of $28 into my savings.  Though&#8230; I don&#8217;t always resist the beer urge like I should <img src='http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jan 2011 05:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Aaron #33:  I thought of the exact same story when I read this article about the lottery linked savings account.  I&#039;m glad you found the post before I had to look for it.  If you want to look at how perceived value affects investing, check out the work done by the Planet Money team on NPR:  http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2011/01/14/132906135/ranking-cute-animals-a-stock-market-experiment.  The story basically talks about how sometimes people invest in an asset not because they think it should go up in value, but they think others think it will go up in value.  I think gold is a great example of this right now.  Watch out for the bubble bursting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Aaron #33:  I thought of the exact same story when I read this article about the lottery linked savings account.  I&#8217;m glad you found the post before I had to look for it.  If you want to look at how perceived value affects investing, check out the work done by the Planet Money team on NPR:  <a href="http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2011/01/14/132906135/ranking-cute-animals-a-stock-market-experiment" rel="nofollow">http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2011/01/14/132906135/ranking-cute-animals-a-stock-market-experiment</a>.  The story basically talks about how sometimes people invest in an asset not because they think it should go up in value, but they think others think it will go up in value.  I think gold is a great example of this right now.  Watch out for the bubble bursting.</p>
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		<title>By: Samantha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Samantha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2011 21:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@32 michelle

That&#039;s what I do on the treadmill, and it works!</description>
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<p>That&#8217;s what I do on the treadmill, and it works!</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2011 13:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Placebos don&#039;t do anything. They only appear to work on subjective or self-limiting conditions.

When studied based on an objective measure of pain (like how much the pain interferes with your ability to preform a task), they show no effect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Placebos don&#8217;t do anything. They only appear to work on subjective or self-limiting conditions.</p>
<p>When studied based on an objective measure of pain (like how much the pain interferes with your ability to preform a task), they show no effect.</p>
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		<title>By: FiveSigmas</title>
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		<dc:creator>FiveSigmas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2011 06:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hah! Loved the video -- very entertaining and thought provoking.

Of course, though, an ad man makes his money by raising the perceived value of what you *don&#039;t* have, which very often as a side effect dimishes the perceived value of what you *do* have. To take an example from Mr. Sutherland&#039;s talk: when iron jewelry became the fad in Prussia, I&#039;m sure that gold jewelry became a little less fashionable. And in modern times, when the hot new gadget 2.0 comes out with feature XYZ, the perceived value of gadget 1.0 that you already own decreases.  Not exactly a recipe for a society with less Stuff.

That said, I have to admit that I&#039;m a gadget hound myself, so I&#039;m a total hypocrite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hah! Loved the video &#8212; very entertaining and thought provoking.</p>
<p>Of course, though, an ad man makes his money by raising the perceived value of what you *don&#8217;t* have, which very often as a side effect dimishes the perceived value of what you *do* have. To take an example from Mr. Sutherland&#8217;s talk: when iron jewelry became the fad in Prussia, I&#8217;m sure that gold jewelry became a little less fashionable. And in modern times, when the hot new gadget 2.0 comes out with feature XYZ, the perceived value of gadget 1.0 that you already own decreases.  Not exactly a recipe for a society with less Stuff.</p>
<p>That said, I have to admit that I&#8217;m a gadget hound myself, so I&#8217;m a total hypocrite.</p>
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		<title>By: KP</title>
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		<dc:creator>KP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jan 2011 22:29:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a very intriguing post, it&#039;s true perception and playing on human behavior is what keeps advertisers busy. As a parent, this strategy even works on kids tuning into their favorite cartoon. After so many ad messages, they suddenly have a desire to have something they never even cared about before.

The only thing that we can do as consumers to combat this is to change our response to such marketing ploys. Focus on our own personal desired outcomes instead of letting everyone else tell us what we need, have to have and want.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a very intriguing post, it&#8217;s true perception and playing on human behavior is what keeps advertisers busy. As a parent, this strategy even works on kids tuning into their favorite cartoon. After so many ad messages, they suddenly have a desire to have something they never even cared about before.</p>
<p>The only thing that we can do as consumers to combat this is to change our response to such marketing ploys. Focus on our own personal desired outcomes instead of letting everyone else tell us what we need, have to have and want.</p>
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		<title>By: Kiki</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kiki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jan 2011 21:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think an ad campaign would work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think an ad campaign would work.</p>
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		<title>By: partgypsy</title>
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		<dc:creator>partgypsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jan 2011 20:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People are inherently social animals, and we compare what we have or what we are doing to others. It&#039;s far easier to compare things like cars, houses and vacations (maybe that&#039;s why it&#039;s called conspicuous consumption?) than savings balances, which is practically forbidden topic. That&#039;s why I like going to forums such Get Rich slowly. They are like my my &quot;elecronic&quot; peers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People are inherently social animals, and we compare what we have or what we are doing to others. It&#8217;s far easier to compare things like cars, houses and vacations (maybe that&#8217;s why it&#8217;s called conspicuous consumption?) than savings balances, which is practically forbidden topic. That&#8217;s why I like going to forums such Get Rich slowly. They are like my my &#8220;elecronic&#8221; peers.</p>
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		<title>By: chacha1</title>
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		<dc:creator>chacha1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jan 2011 20:31:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Tyler K., I think animals *in general* are competitive, and certainly humans are.  Everyone wants the best nest, the best mate(s), and for someone else to bring them food.

Where the notion of perceived value can be useful is in helping us refine (or redefine) our actual, personal values.  Being aware that material &quot;value&quot; is almost entirely subjective can help us align our spending choices more consciously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tyler K., I think animals *in general* are competitive, and certainly humans are.  Everyone wants the best nest, the best mate(s), and for someone else to bring them food.</p>
<p>Where the notion of perceived value can be useful is in helping us refine (or redefine) our actual, personal values.  Being aware that material &#8220;value&#8221; is almost entirely subjective can help us align our spending choices more consciously.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jan 2011 20:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One way to fundamentally change human behavior (although not my idea) AND encourage people to save more, is the idea of the lottery-linked savings account. Basically instead of earning .25% interest on your savings account, you get a chance at winning thousands or millions of dollars in a lottery of all the account holder&#039;s accumulated interested for the month.  

I heard about this concept on a recent Freakonomics radio program: 
http://marketplace.publicradio.org/display/web/2010/11/16/pm-freakonomics-savings-security-with-gambling-thrills/

This way people are given incentive to save, since they have a chance (albeit little) of hitting it big, rather than only making a few dollars a year guaranteed.

This has been found to work to raise the savings rate in other countries, but has roadblocks in the US because most states have laws against lotteries that compete with their monopolistic state lotteries.  Michigan is one exception, and hopefully other states will allow this at some point as I think it&#039;s a great idea, especially for those poorer individuals who don&#039;t have money to invest and need encouragement to simply save money for a rainy day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One way to fundamentally change human behavior (although not my idea) AND encourage people to save more, is the idea of the lottery-linked savings account. Basically instead of earning .25% interest on your savings account, you get a chance at winning thousands or millions of dollars in a lottery of all the account holder&#8217;s accumulated interested for the month.  </p>
<p>I heard about this concept on a recent Freakonomics radio program:<br />
<a href="http://marketplace.publicradio.org/display/web/2010/11/16/pm-freakonomics-savings-security-with-gambling-thrills/" rel="nofollow">http://marketplace.publicradio.org/display/web/2010/11/16/pm-freakonomics-savings-security-with-gambling-thrills/</a></p>
<p>This way people are given incentive to save, since they have a chance (albeit little) of hitting it big, rather than only making a few dollars a year guaranteed.</p>
<p>This has been found to work to raise the savings rate in other countries, but has roadblocks in the US because most states have laws against lotteries that compete with their monopolistic state lotteries.  Michigan is one exception, and hopefully other states will allow this at some point as I think it&#8217;s a great idea, especially for those poorer individuals who don&#8217;t have money to invest and need encouragement to simply save money for a rainy day.</p>
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		<title>By: michelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jan 2011 20:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One tiny little game I play with myself is to tag all of my ING savings accounts with very reasonable goals that I always am on target to hit in the near future.

One ING account is labeled &quot;Christmas 2011 Account Goal 100&quot;.  I make a mental note that I really want $500 in there by December.  $100 is a simple goal and I&#039;ll hit it in the next month or so.  

It&#039;s a long term goal ($500) that&#039;s broken down into tiny steps, so every time I check the balance and see &quot;Balance $25&quot;, &quot;Balance $75&quot;, I&#039;m ecstatic because I think I&#039;&#039;m nearly 100% of the way to meeting my goal.  Then when I hit $100, then I change the account name to &quot;Christmas 2011 Account Goal 200&quot; and work toward that.  That &#039;s one over-arching goal with 5 levels of achievement!

It&#039;s a tiny detail that keeps saving a fresh and goal-oriented game for me.  Works with the &quot;Vegas Fund&quot; &quot;Burning Man Fund&quot; &quot;House Downpayment Fund&quot;, etc, as well!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One tiny little game I play with myself is to tag all of my ING savings accounts with very reasonable goals that I always am on target to hit in the near future.</p>
<p>One ING account is labeled &#8220;Christmas 2011 Account Goal 100&#8243;.  I make a mental note that I really want $500 in there by December.  $100 is a simple goal and I&#8217;ll hit it in the next month or so.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a long term goal ($500) that&#8217;s broken down into tiny steps, so every time I check the balance and see &#8220;Balance $25&#8243;, &#8220;Balance $75&#8243;, I&#8217;m ecstatic because I think I&#8221;m nearly 100% of the way to meeting my goal.  Then when I hit $100, then I change the account name to &#8220;Christmas 2011 Account Goal 200&#8243; and work toward that.  That &#8216;s one over-arching goal with 5 levels of achievement!</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a tiny detail that keeps saving a fresh and goal-oriented game for me.  Works with the &#8220;Vegas Fund&#8221; &#8220;Burning Man Fund&#8221; &#8220;House Downpayment Fund&#8221;, etc, as well!</p>
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		<title>By: Tyler Karaszewski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tyler Karaszewski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jan 2011 19:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems the entire comes down to &quot;you&#039;re as happy as you think you are&quot; and then some discussion of psychological tricks to make you think you&#039;re happier than you used to be.

That&#039;s fine, but I don&#039;t know what to do with it.

Obviously, not all value is simply &quot;perceived value&quot;, for example, I&#039;d argue that you can&#039;t just perceive your way out of starving to death without some real food at some point. But a lot of things really are more perceived than actual -- the real difference between a chevy and a mercedes is probably smaller than the difference in their prices. The difference between a $200 pair of shoes and a $50 pair of shoes seems to be almost entirely the ability to say &quot;I paid $200 for these shoes&quot; which is pure perceived value.

And so there&#039;s truth in the message. But there&#039;s not a clear course of action to take from there. He says we can either get poorer, or we can choose to perceive value in different things. So if not shoes and cars and gold jewelry, then what do we perceive value in that&#039;s better than those?

I think human beings are competitive by nature, and so anything we choose to value instead of what we currently value will probably have to let us compete just the same. Maybe instead of trying to compete for the biggest house we compete for the most energy-effecient house. Better for the environment, sure, but will it make us happier? I doubt it, especially since (in this particular example) it will ultimately make us less comfortable, too.

Given the knowledge that beyond basics like food and medicine we can create value anywhere we like, how do we choose what to value?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems the entire comes down to &#8220;you&#8217;re as happy as you think you are&#8221; and then some discussion of psychological tricks to make you think you&#8217;re happier than you used to be.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s fine, but I don&#8217;t know what to do with it.</p>
<p>Obviously, not all value is simply &#8220;perceived value&#8221;, for example, I&#8217;d argue that you can&#8217;t just perceive your way out of starving to death without some real food at some point. But a lot of things really are more perceived than actual &#8212; the real difference between a chevy and a mercedes is probably smaller than the difference in their prices. The difference between a $200 pair of shoes and a $50 pair of shoes seems to be almost entirely the ability to say &#8220;I paid $200 for these shoes&#8221; which is pure perceived value.</p>
<p>And so there&#8217;s truth in the message. But there&#8217;s not a clear course of action to take from there. He says we can either get poorer, or we can choose to perceive value in different things. So if not shoes and cars and gold jewelry, then what do we perceive value in that&#8217;s better than those?</p>
<p>I think human beings are competitive by nature, and so anything we choose to value instead of what we currently value will probably have to let us compete just the same. Maybe instead of trying to compete for the biggest house we compete for the most energy-effecient house. Better for the environment, sure, but will it make us happier? I doubt it, especially since (in this particular example) it will ultimately make us less comfortable, too.</p>
<p>Given the knowledge that beyond basics like food and medicine we can create value anywhere we like, how do we choose what to value?</p>
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		<title>By: Suzita @ playfightrepeat.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suzita @ playfightrepeat.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jan 2011 19:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been thinking about perceived value from a parenting perspective.  I want to help my kids be more grateful for what they have rather than pining for what they don&#039;t have.  This led me to read the book, Thanks! How the New Science of Gratitude Can Make You Happier, by Robert Emmons.  

It said that people who keep a gratitude journal (which I think could be done in various ways) exercise more, get sick less, feel better about their lives as a whole, and express greater optimism.  He of course says many other cool things about gratitude in his book as well.  I wrote a piece on kids and gratitude on my blog a few months back.  

Now when I put the kids to bed each night I ask them three things they&#039;re grateful for.  I try to do this for myself in other ways.  I also read my kids books about children&#039;s lives in the past (Little House on the Prairie and Little Britches) as a way to help them appreciate what they have.  

These are relatively small things but they&#039;ve have helped to raise the perceived value of what we already have at our house.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been thinking about perceived value from a parenting perspective.  I want to help my kids be more grateful for what they have rather than pining for what they don&#8217;t have.  This led me to read the book, Thanks! How the New Science of Gratitude Can Make You Happier, by Robert Emmons.  </p>
<p>It said that people who keep a gratitude journal (which I think could be done in various ways) exercise more, get sick less, feel better about their lives as a whole, and express greater optimism.  He of course says many other cool things about gratitude in his book as well.  I wrote a piece on kids and gratitude on my blog a few months back.  </p>
<p>Now when I put the kids to bed each night I ask them three things they&#8217;re grateful for.  I try to do this for myself in other ways.  I also read my kids books about children&#8217;s lives in the past (Little House on the Prairie and Little Britches) as a way to help them appreciate what they have.  </p>
<p>These are relatively small things but they&#8217;ve have helped to raise the perceived value of what we already have at our house.</p>
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		<title>By: BrentABQ</title>
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		<dc:creator>BrentABQ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jan 2011 19:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why stop there? If all value is perceived value then there is no point in actually saving more. You only need to convince yourself that what you already save is more. Advertising DOES deserve its bad reputation. It encourages us to abandon critical thought. It encourages us to satisfy our whims rather than our needs. It creates those whims by exploiting to the heuristics our brains. Just because it CAN be used for good things does not mean that it usually is. 
Social networking is not going to solve this. Social networking will only speed up whatever direction the society takes. Right now when we keep up with the jonses its because we see our friends with new cars or whatever and soon it will be because their status was updated. People like to brag about getting new things. For some thats the supercab truck, and for others its the prius. For some its springing for a porterhouse steak and another its the free range organic chicken. We don&#039;t need to advertise different behaviors, we need to not advertise. Infact, I&#039;d say that it might be the last thing that advertising should be used for, its own fall from civilization.
&quot;All a gun does is focus an explosion in one direction.  You have a class of young strong men and women, and they want to give their lives to something.  Advertising has these people chasing cars and clothes they don&#039;t need.  Generations have been working in jobs they hate, just so they can buy what they don&#039;t really need.&quot;  ~Chuck Palahniuk, Fight Club, Chapter 19</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why stop there? If all value is perceived value then there is no point in actually saving more. You only need to convince yourself that what you already save is more. Advertising DOES deserve its bad reputation. It encourages us to abandon critical thought. It encourages us to satisfy our whims rather than our needs. It creates those whims by exploiting to the heuristics our brains. Just because it CAN be used for good things does not mean that it usually is.<br />
Social networking is not going to solve this. Social networking will only speed up whatever direction the society takes. Right now when we keep up with the jonses its because we see our friends with new cars or whatever and soon it will be because their status was updated. People like to brag about getting new things. For some thats the supercab truck, and for others its the prius. For some its springing for a porterhouse steak and another its the free range organic chicken. We don&#8217;t need to advertise different behaviors, we need to not advertise. Infact, I&#8217;d say that it might be the last thing that advertising should be used for, its own fall from civilization.<br />
&#8220;All a gun does is focus an explosion in one direction.  You have a class of young strong men and women, and they want to give their lives to something.  Advertising has these people chasing cars and clothes they don&#8217;t need.  Generations have been working in jobs they hate, just so they can buy what they don&#8217;t really need.&#8221;  ~Chuck Palahniuk, Fight Club, Chapter 19</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jan 2011 19:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very true, but unfortunately easyly forgotten in everyday life. Good to be reminded by GRS!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very true, but unfortunately easyly forgotten in everyday life. Good to be reminded by GRS!</p>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jan 2011 19:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Years ago when we were paying off our mortgage my dh had a saying that helped keep me focused. I would get discouraged &amp; want to go to eat or I&#039;d just feel deprived thinking about what I couldn&#039;t afford do. My husband would say, &#039;Honey, look at all the money we spend to live here. Let&#039;s stay home &amp; enjoy it!&#039; 

It always made me think about where I could be living if I spent my money in a different way - we live on 5 acres on a lake so our budgeting could really have changed where we live. 

We&#039;ve been debt-free for awhile now &amp; even though our budget isn&#039;t so tight, it&#039;s not so hard to spend less &amp; stay home. I guess having the choice &amp; choosing home &amp; more savings (making them more valuable) helps make us more content.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Years ago when we were paying off our mortgage my dh had a saying that helped keep me focused. I would get discouraged &amp; want to go to eat or I&#8217;d just feel deprived thinking about what I couldn&#8217;t afford do. My husband would say, &#8216;Honey, look at all the money we spend to live here. Let&#8217;s stay home &amp; enjoy it!&#8217; </p>
<p>It always made me think about where I could be living if I spent my money in a different way &#8211; we live on 5 acres on a lake so our budgeting could really have changed where we live. </p>
<p>We&#8217;ve been debt-free for awhile now &amp; even though our budget isn&#8217;t so tight, it&#8217;s not so hard to spend less &amp; stay home. I guess having the choice &amp; choosing home &amp; more savings (making them more valuable) helps make us more content.</p>
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		<title>By: Candice Helfand</title>
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		<dc:creator>Candice Helfand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jan 2011 18:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post! One thing though - social networking sites allow others to show off what they have. If someone gets a new car, or closes on a house, or has an expensive wedding, pictures are up as soon as they&#039;re available. Such sharing has the potential to inspire the sort of want/impulse-induced spending this article warns against. I&#039;m merely playing devil&#039;s advocate here, though. Fundamentally, I agree with what&#039;s said here. 

In fact, I think that simply spending more time around people (online or in person) and not in your own head can help. Communicating your goals is also a good idea - some may not be supportive, but some may surprise you with how supportive they can be to you realizing your financial (and other) goals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post! One thing though &#8211; social networking sites allow others to show off what they have. If someone gets a new car, or closes on a house, or has an expensive wedding, pictures are up as soon as they&#8217;re available. Such sharing has the potential to inspire the sort of want/impulse-induced spending this article warns against. I&#8217;m merely playing devil&#8217;s advocate here, though. Fundamentally, I agree with what&#8217;s said here. </p>
<p>In fact, I think that simply spending more time around people (online or in person) and not in your own head can help. Communicating your goals is also a good idea &#8211; some may not be supportive, but some may surprise you with how supportive they can be to you realizing your financial (and other) goals.</p>
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		<title>By: Trina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jan 2011 18:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YMOYL also recommeds the graph approach to building wealth and reducing debt.  I like how the graphs in Quicken automatically do that for me, and I see it all the time because I go in several times a week to download new transactions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YMOYL also recommeds the graph approach to building wealth and reducing debt.  I like how the graphs in Quicken automatically do that for me, and I see it all the time because I go in several times a week to download new transactions.</p>
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		<title>By: bagelgirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>bagelgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jan 2011 18:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This subject of &quot;perceived value&quot; is extremely evident in the purchase of designer clothes and goods.

I find I am often pointing out to people that the higher priced clothes at the mall are not always more attractive and aren&#039;t necessarily even better made or cut.

But people who need that particular &quot;high&quot; will convince themselves they are paying for quality.  They are usually paying for status, at least in their own minds.

It&#039;s an uphill battle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This subject of &#8220;perceived value&#8221; is extremely evident in the purchase of designer clothes and goods.</p>
<p>I find I am often pointing out to people that the higher priced clothes at the mall are not always more attractive and aren&#8217;t necessarily even better made or cut.</p>
<p>But people who need that particular &#8220;high&#8221; will convince themselves they are paying for quality.  They are usually paying for status, at least in their own minds.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s an uphill battle.</p>
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		<title>By: Crystal@BFS</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crystal@BFS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jan 2011 17:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#20 Mom of Five,

I have had those days too, &quot;Well, if they didn&#039;t smoke a pack a day at $6 a pop and be sexist jerks, their daughter might want to visit more and they wouldn&#039;t be depending on Meals on Wheels for their lunch...&quot;

That is another way it can work...you do learn why certain people are in certain situations and make mental notes how not to get there in the future.  I am nicer to people when I come across jerks and am better for it.  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#20 Mom of Five,</p>
<p>I have had those days too, &#8220;Well, if they didn&#8217;t smoke a pack a day at $6 a pop and be sexist jerks, their daughter might want to visit more and they wouldn&#8217;t be depending on Meals on Wheels for their lunch&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>That is another way it can work&#8230;you do learn why certain people are in certain situations and make mental notes how not to get there in the future.  I am nicer to people when I come across jerks and am better for it.  <img src='http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Adrian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jan 2011 17:42:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this is a brilliant article and I intend to recommend it to my friends.  My idea for making savings easier and more fun is to expand on the idea of automatic savings through your purchases.  

I&#039;ve seen a couple of debit card options that either put the odd change from your purchase into a savings account (you spend $3.75 and it is rounded up to $4.00 and the .25 gets put into savings), or $1 is transferred into your savings account every time you use your debit card.  Either one is just fine and I wish my bank did this, but I think the best idea is to take it a step further and send a text or an Email at the end of each day to tell you that you have saved $XXX amount that day and $XXX amount that month or year.  You could even have a thermometer or some other eye-catching graphic that would make your progress more visible.  

It&#039;s sort of a little intangible reward that helps you to celebrate that small, incremental progress.  I actually work for a bank, so I think I will suggest it on our bright ideas website.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is a brilliant article and I intend to recommend it to my friends.  My idea for making savings easier and more fun is to expand on the idea of automatic savings through your purchases.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen a couple of debit card options that either put the odd change from your purchase into a savings account (you spend $3.75 and it is rounded up to $4.00 and the .25 gets put into savings), or $1 is transferred into your savings account every time you use your debit card.  Either one is just fine and I wish my bank did this, but I think the best idea is to take it a step further and send a text or an Email at the end of each day to tell you that you have saved $XXX amount that day and $XXX amount that month or year.  You could even have a thermometer or some other eye-catching graphic that would make your progress more visible.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s sort of a little intangible reward that helps you to celebrate that small, incremental progress.  I actually work for a bank, so I think I will suggest it on our bright ideas website.</p>
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		<title>By: Mom of five</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mom of five</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jan 2011 17:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#13 Crystal -

I&#039;ve got a good life and I feel very lucky to have it, and my guilt over that is such that if I don&#039;t do something with all I&#039;ve been given, I feel Karma (or whatever) is going to come back and bite me.    But sometimes I think I&#039;m the only person in the world who doesn&#039;t feel better about myself or the world when I volunteer to help the less fortunate.     

For instance, I volunteer through my church to drive senior to appointments.    Easily more than half the times I&#039;ve driven, I&#039;ve thought to myself, &quot;You know this person would have a friend or relative to do this for them if they weren&#039;t such a nasty old cuss.&quot;    

But maybe that&#039;s what you mean by feeling good?   For sure, I&#039;m nicer to my kids when I get home so maybe one of them will drive me to appointments when I&#039;m an old lady.    When I volunteer in a homeless shelter or soup kitchen, I&#039;m less likely to have an alcoholic drink at the end of a tough day.   

But like you said, different things work on different people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#13 Crystal -</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve got a good life and I feel very lucky to have it, and my guilt over that is such that if I don&#8217;t do something with all I&#8217;ve been given, I feel Karma (or whatever) is going to come back and bite me.    But sometimes I think I&#8217;m the only person in the world who doesn&#8217;t feel better about myself or the world when I volunteer to help the less fortunate.     </p>
<p>For instance, I volunteer through my church to drive senior to appointments.    Easily more than half the times I&#8217;ve driven, I&#8217;ve thought to myself, &#8220;You know this person would have a friend or relative to do this for them if they weren&#8217;t such a nasty old cuss.&#8221;    </p>
<p>But maybe that&#8217;s what you mean by feeling good?   For sure, I&#8217;m nicer to my kids when I get home so maybe one of them will drive me to appointments when I&#8217;m an old lady.    When I volunteer in a homeless shelter or soup kitchen, I&#8217;m less likely to have an alcoholic drink at the end of a tough day.   </p>
<p>But like you said, different things work on different people.</p>
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		<title>By: retirebyforty</title>
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		<dc:creator>retirebyforty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jan 2011 17:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WOW! Rory is a great speaker. One of the best I&#039;ve seen. Thanks for posting this. 
I will sleep on this and think of some ways to create intangible values. 

I watched the whole clip. It is really really good, well worth the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW! Rory is a great speaker. One of the best I&#8217;ve seen. Thanks for posting this.<br />
I will sleep on this and think of some ways to create intangible values. </p>
<p>I watched the whole clip. It is really really good, well worth the time.</p>
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		<title>By: Vijay tony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vijay tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jan 2011 17:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“To change the interface and fundamentally change your behavior, you might need to branch out and find a community with the same value perceptions you’re trying to cultivate.”

For me this is the primary help of Facebook. It has let me follow people like Dave Bruno and his 100 Thing Challenge, which provide for me some of the community I am trying to emulate and cultivate. It would be much harder without feeling part of that community</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“To change the interface and fundamentally change your behavior, you might need to branch out and find a community with the same value perceptions you’re trying to cultivate.”</p>
<p>For me this is the primary help of Facebook. It has let me follow people like Dave Bruno and his 100 Thing Challenge, which provide for me some of the community I am trying to emulate and cultivate. It would be much harder without feeling part of that community</p>
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		<title>By: mike crosby</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike crosby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jan 2011 16:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Though we may not have a lot of money, if we step back and see how we fit in this place, we&#039;re all quite incredibly rich. And that&#039;s not perceived--that&#039;s a fact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Though we may not have a lot of money, if we step back and see how we fit in this place, we&#8217;re all quite incredibly rich. And that&#8217;s not perceived&#8211;that&#8217;s a fact.</p>
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		<title>By: Jo@simplybeingmum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jo@simplybeingmum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jan 2011 16:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seriously good post, I have read and will re-read again to absorb everything. I am a professional marketer by trade, and very aware of perceived value. Some of the concepts discussed here are really worth digesting. I&#039;m going to watch the Ted talk. The ref to FB is very interesting. I started blogging in Oct 2010, and the benefits have been immense, it is adding value to my life, by making what I do day in day out tangible and measurable. I love the quote about appreciating what we have... it is the answer to so many things in life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously good post, I have read and will re-read again to absorb everything. I am a professional marketer by trade, and very aware of perceived value. Some of the concepts discussed here are really worth digesting. I&#8217;m going to watch the Ted talk. The ref to FB is very interesting. I started blogging in Oct 2010, and the benefits have been immense, it is adding value to my life, by making what I do day in day out tangible and measurable. I love the quote about appreciating what we have&#8230; it is the answer to so many things in life.</p>
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		<title>By: April</title>
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		<dc:creator>April</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jan 2011 15:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@James--A very good point. I found a like-minded community here at GRS when I didn&#039;t have any real-life people in my social circle who were focused on paying off debt and learning about money. For example, everyone we knew thought going from two cars to one was a bad idea, even suggesting that our marriage would suffer. It was the GRS community that offered the support to give it a try, and it was the right choice for us (and we have never had a single disagreement about the car).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@James&#8211;A very good point. I found a like-minded community here at GRS when I didn&#8217;t have any real-life people in my social circle who were focused on paying off debt and learning about money. For example, everyone we knew thought going from two cars to one was a bad idea, even suggesting that our marriage would suffer. It was the GRS community that offered the support to give it a try, and it was the right choice for us (and we have never had a single disagreement about the car).</p>
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		<title>By: April</title>
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		<dc:creator>April</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jan 2011 15:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Such great ideas! @Nicole--Saving as a competition sounds perfect for type A personalities like myself. :) (I&#039;ve figured out that type A people are far too easy to manipulate. Just make something a competition and we have to win it.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Such great ideas! @Nicole&#8211;Saving as a competition sounds perfect for type A personalities like myself. <img src='http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  (I&#8217;ve figured out that type A people are far too easy to manipulate. Just make something a competition and we have to win it.)</p>
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