Reader Story: How to Find Budgeting Nirvana with Mint.com
Published on - February 6th, 2011 (by J.D. Roth) This guest post from Geoff Lennon is part of the “reader stories” feature at Get Rich Slowly. Some stories contain general advice; others are examples of how a GRS reader achieved financial success — or failure. These stories feature folks from all levels of financial maturity and with all sorts of incomes.
Though I’ve been a GRS reader since early 2007, I’ve largely been a quiet observer. I’ve often wanted to participate more actively in the discussion and community that J.D has established over the years, but for whatever reason, I never have.
But recently, when J.D. wrote about the Mint.com signup process, I finally felt I might have some unique insight to offer. In particular, it was his comment below that brought me to the keyboard to contribute:
The [Mint.com] Budgets section lets you, well, erect a budget to keep your spending focused. I haven’t had time to play around here, so I can’t comment on its utility. I’m hoping that Mint will allow me to put my beloved Balanced Money Formula (or some other broad budget framework) into use.
Since I use Mint for this very purpose — putting the beloved Balanced Money Formula into use — I wanted to share my approach in detail.
Finding the Middle Way
Prior to learning about The Balanced Money Formula on GRS, I regularly struggled to find the level of detail at which I should budget, a decision I know many of us deal with at some point or another. In my search to find “what works for me“, I flirted with the budgeting extremes.
When I started to budget, I tried to allocate and track every dollar I spent using very specific (read restrictive) categories. You probably won’t be surprised to learn that this system quickly crumbled. Maintaining such a detailed budget took far too much time and didn’t really provide me with much meaningful data for analysis.
On the other end of the spectrum, frustrated by failing in my first attempt, I completely stopped in my effort to track my spending…at any level of detail. This wasn’t a very effective approach either.
When J.D. reviewed the Balanced Money Formula a while back, I saw it as “The Middle Way” of budgeting. It’s not so detailed that your budget strains under its own weight, but it’s also just structured enough so that it provides instructive data that can help you to course correct your spending and saving habits when necessary. (Hmm…The Middle Way of budgeting. Perhaps J.D. is my personal finance Buddha!)
As a quick recap from J.D. (who got this from Elizabeth Warren), The Balanced Money Formula suggests that “ideally, no more than 50% of your paycheck should be spent on Needs (and keeping them below 35% is best). Of the remaining amount, at least 20% should be devoted to Saving, while up to 30% can be spent on Wants.”
Finding the Middle Way with Mint
Since The Balanced Money Formula is tremendously flexible and easy to implement, you could certainly use an off-line method to manage it (e.g., Excel spreadsheet, ledger, etc.); however, I’ve found Mint to be a great tool for this framework, mainly because it automatically brings in my debit and credit card transactions for categorization, a major time-saver.
When Mint brings in your transactions, it works to automatically select an applicable category, often with mixed success. (Sometimes my monthly train/subway pass is read as Subway and posts as a Fast Food transaction!) However, if you have regular interactions with the same vendor (Gas Station, Grocery Store), you can apply rules such that a specific category is automatically, and more accurately, applied. Or, for more ad hoc transactions, you can manually select the appropriate category.
As for categories, Mint has many to choose from — perhaps too many. The image below doesn’t quite do them justice, as each of the categories has a number of subcategories as well.
You’ll notice that Needs, Wants, and Savings are not in the standard list of categories. As a result, you’ll need to create them in order to establish your Balanced Money Formula system.
Creating new categories is easy.
On the Transactions tab, select a transaction and the “Category” drop-down. From the “Uncategorized” Category, select “Add/Edit Categories”, and on the following screen, select “Add a new category” to create Needs, Wants, and Savings, etc.

Once you’ve created your new categories (I also use a Giving subcategory to track my charitable donations), it’s time to review your transactions and to bucket them accordingly.
A few caveats:
- I’ve found that the usefulness of Mint in categorizing your transactions is directly correlated to the percentage of your spending that is on a debit or credit card.
- Check transactions are also easy enough to manage. But if you primarily use cash, this process will be slightly more difficult (unless of course you keep detailed notes on your spending. I do not).
- Since I mostly use a credit card, I assume that any cash I get from the ATM is going to a Want and not a Need (probably not 100% accurate, but it’s close enough for the Middle Way).
Once you’ve updated your transactions, for at least a month of historical data, you’re now ready to review your spending against targeted budget levels. There are two ways to conduct this review.
Trends
Select the Trends tab and choose the Spending Graph (By Category).

At first glance, doesn’t look so great, does it? One solid block of Uncategorized spending. Really useful, Geoff! Fortunately, Mint enables you to easily drill into the subcategories we just created.
Clicking the chart refreshes the data and shows your spending by Balanced Money Formula subcategory.

With this update, you can now quickly review your spending in the high-level categories and assess how well you’re tracking to budget. As you can see in the above, my Savings are well on track this month; but then again, my rent check hasn’t been cashed yet, so the picture will certainly change by month-end.
If you want a more precise understanding of the data, mouse over a section of the pie chart to see the number of transactions and your overall spending in the category (including % of total spending).
Compare these results to your budgeted percentage and you’re on the Middle Way.
Budgets
For those wanting even more precision — mainly the ability to track to specific dollar budgets each month for each category — you can use Mint’s Budgets functionality. While I won’t review this functionality in detail, as the Trends view largely provides me with the level of detail I require, some may be interested in this view.
Based on the percentages you’re targeting (converted to dollars), create budgets for each of the Balanced Money Formula subcategories. Mint will now track your spending (through categorized transactions) to your budgets throughout the month, providing another visual reminder of how well you’re keeping to plan.

A Final Meditation
While rich data and glossy charts from Mint are interesting to look at, and can indeed provide helpful insights and motivation, it’s important to remember that they’re only part of the solution. This approach is only useful if it helps guide you toward making improved spending and saving decisions which are more fully aligned with your goals and objectives.
With that, and with these tools and approach at your disposal, I hope you too are now on your way to finding budgeting nirvana by walking the Middle Way with GRS, the Balanced Money Formula, and Mint.
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@Edward W
Glad to hear that you enjoyed the post!
Sounds like you’ve developed a system that really meets your unique needs, that’s excellent. Those six categories make a lot of sense for high-level/middle way budgeting.
Hope it continues to work out well!
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@SupportingParents
That’s outstanding, I’m so glad to hear that you were able to successfully implement the approach and are enjoying the results!
Definitely know what you mean about micro-managing to a fault, I was there for quite a while, without much to show for it. And you’re absolutely right…less is more…more or less : )
Those are some very impressive savings/debt reduction numbers, congrats! Best of luck in reaching your debt-free target for the end of 2011, seems like you are on the right track!
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@Kathy B
Sorry to hear that you haven’t had a great experience with Mint, there are often several posts in the Mint forums from users who have problems connecting to their accounts.
Whenever I’ve had an issue with connectivity in the past, the Support Team has been responsive in delivering an update on status/solution, etc.
You can ask a question via the ‘Get Help’ link at the top-right corner of the page.
Hopefully they’re able to identify a fix for you so that you can assess the functionality and see if it is right for you.
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I have been using MS Money for quite a while now, and like it. It allows subcategories, so you can implement the balanced formula. As of 2011, MS stopped supporting it, which makes the most recent version (the sunset editions) completely free. Furthermore, it is a local application, so less data privacy issues.
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Yodlee is better.
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Great article Geoff.
As an avid Mint user, I would have to say not being able to set up my own main categories has always been my #1 complaint. Right now, I set up “wants” under entertainment, “needs” under home and “savings” under kids (as I don’t plan on ever using this category).
But I think I’ll try your version out tonight.
Happy tracking!
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Thanks for a great article.
While I love the budgeting and automation features of Mint, I wish they’d let me use it to balance accounts. I end up using my old, offline Money software to balance, and then I track it again in Mint just because I like to see all my account balances with the touch of one button (vs. logging into 4 or 5 different websites.)
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This is probably the most motivating article I’ve read on budgeting so far. I keep thinking I need a budget, and I’d lvoe to know what I spend on things but here is my problem – I feel that too many of my expenses realyl fall into multiple catagories. For instance:
Eating out – is not always entertainment – I mean really one needs to eat, I could spend say $2/day at the grocery store on eggs, muffins and meat and make my own breakfast sandwiches, or I can pay $3/day at the cafe at work and have it made for me. So only $1 is really a ‘want’ or entertainment the other $2 I would have to spend regardless.
On the flip side we have an ‘investment property’, it’s not really a need (although we NEED to pay the mortgage every month), and it’s not totally a want (the plan is that it’s an investment and will be able to be sold during retirement), so it’s kind of a savings too. And then there is the electric/water/sewer bills for said property, which clearly aren’t savings, or wants, but needs to supports the pseudo want investment property. I’m not looking for anyone to actually catagorize this stuff for me – I have a bazillion more examples, but does anyone else reach this sort of impass when trying to budget? Do these budgeting books offer any insight on how to simplify (in a nice clean “Middle Way”) these questions?
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@Jeff
Thanks for your feedback!
Agreed, it’d be great if we were able to create our own main categories…suppose our workarounds will need to suffice for now…sounds like you’ve implemented an effective method.
I’d be very interested to hear how my approach worked out for you.
Happy tracking to you as well!
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@Michiel @Joshua
Glad to hear that you’ve found tools/approaches which best meet your budgeting needs!
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@HollyP
Thanks for your feedback.
Seems like you’ve been able to develop an effective approach which best meets your unique budgeting needs…though perhaps it’s not as centralized/automated as you might want it to be!
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@Bella
Thanks so much for your feedback!
You raise some excellent questions/issues in your comment…I’m sure that many other GRS readers encounter similar challenges when trying to allocate/track their budgets each month…I’d be interested in getting some of their opinions on this topic.
Wish I had some more tactical suggestions/guidance for you…but overall, my suggestion would be to spend some time developing a simple (and easy to implement) formula for the allocation of the certain expenses you’ve outlined above. I’d point to the advice that @SupportingParents (#45) offered, that is ‘less is more.’
In my experience, there seems to be a direct relationship between the simplicity of a budget and its overall success! The more complex you get…the less likely you are to stick with it!
If you try one approach and it doesn’t work out, don’t get discouraged…testing is a necessary (though often frustrating) part of the process…but I have no doubt you’ll eventually arrive at the right answer if you keep up the good work!
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Thank you for the tutorial! These tutorials are very helpful for the user just starting with Mint, but I am compelled to provide a response that I have given before regarding Mint. My main issue is that these kinds of tutorials usually just serve to get a couple more people signed up for Mint that are going to be disappointed in 6 months (after spending countless hours trying to bend Mint to their will)
I’m actually starting to get really disappointed with all the love that Mint receives without any mention whatsoever of the vast shortfalls. Don’t get my wrong, Mint is a very large step forward in terms of highly accessible personal finance, but it seems to me that they are far more interested in getting me to switch credit cards then they are in implementing basic functionality that people have been screaming for almost a year. How long have people been asking for the option to auto categorize transactions based on source (expenses from my corporate credit card are auto tagged as “reimbursable,” transfers from a savings account are auto categorized as saving)? How long have people been asking for a way to more easily handle reimbursements from employers and shared accounts (expenses paid from the account I share with the people I live with are automatically split)? These examples represent very basic functionality that is standard in many other personal finance packages. It seems that I see new ways for Mint to save me money (and earn them a commission) all the time, but it took them almost 9 months from when I first signed up to implement a very simple goal setting functionality that doesn’t provide any sort of automated check as to whether you actually saved the money (transfers to saving are automatically categorized and progress is only show in the goals utility if the transfer was made). They have a lot of nifty automation, but I believe that one of the main barriers to long term use of any personal finance tool is the time that is spent dealing with those relatively frequent transactions that don’t fit the normal molds (we accountants enjoy it…but we aren’t kidding ourselves about how lame it truly is)
I know…if I don’t like it, then just don’t use it, but I see sooooo much potential and the idea is such fantastic one. I’m not paying for it (hell, I would pay a couple bucks a month for the functionality discussed above), but I really WANT to be a satisfied Mint user. The funny thing is that I really think Mint would have a hell of a lot more users to which “saving opportunities” could be pushed on if they made some of the changes discussed above.
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This is a really useful, informative article. I love the active community on this blog.
However, I don’t think Mint is the best tool to implement this Balanced Money Formula.
A friend turned me on to a new product called MyJibe that is actually built around a lot of these principles. It allows me to split out Fixed Expenses (bills) from Flexible Expenses (discretionary). I can also quantify my savings goals so I know I’m saving enough. Like Mint it automatically imports from my bank and categorizes my transactions.
I think the Balanced Money Formula is great for its flexible practicality. Mint just isn’t geared to do it as well as MyJibe in my opinion.
Have others used it?
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I used Money for years but was always frustrated by my wife’s lack of participation. I’d think we were under budget then a checking or credit card statement would show up, and bam! You’re over budget.
Using Mint with simple budget catagories and tags to reconcile transactions has been a fool proof solution. It does the work I used to do manually and no more surprises. Imagine that, less work with more accuracy. It’s been liberating for me and my wife with no arguments.
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Thanks for this article, it’s really helpful to me! I tend to micro-manage, and of course, ended up with a million subcategories and a Mint budget as long as my arm. And I was always over in some categories and under in others. I think I’ll still keep some of my categories, but I like the idea of having a general “Wants” category, instead of sub-dividing into clothes, cosmetics, hair care, nail care, personal care, etc.
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Thanks for this article Geoff. I just activated a Mint.com account at the beginning of last month. Setting up the budgets section is on my to-do list, but I haven’t gotten around to it yet. It’s time to get my Excel spreadsheet based budget into Mint.com so I can see if my money is really going where I think it is. Your article will help me jump right in!
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@Loki
Thanks for your thoughtful feedback, much appreciated!
You’re right, Mint isn’t perfect…in fact, while my article/review of its functionality has an overwhelmingly positive tone throughout, the fact that I wrote a whole post outlining a necessary workaround highlights the fact that it has specific shortcomings…I definitely recognize that point.
While I encourage people to give Mint a try, to see if it works for them, I certainly hope that they won’t waste hours upon hours if it isn’t the right tool to meet their needs. As I mention at the close of my post…Mint isn’t a ‘silver bullet.’ The functionality and charts are great, but they don’t/can’t replace the fundamentals and it isn’t necessarily perfect for everyone.
Agreed, those are some great suggestions for enhancements…let’s hope they listen and begin implementing them in the not too distant future!
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@Jim
Thanks for your comment, glad to be able to contribute to the great discussion in this community.
Had a quick look at MyJibe…looks pretty slick. Will have to spend a bit more time reviewing it in order to get smarter on the overall functionality. Thanks for the tip!
I’d also be interested in hearing if others in the community have used it.
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@Brian
Thanks for sharing your experience…that’s quite the endorsement!
Glad to hear that you’ve found a budgeting solution that works best for both you and your wife.
Appreciate your feedback.
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@Gin
Glad to hear that you found the article to be helpful!
Your idea sounds great…hope it works out well, provides you with the level of detail you require and frees you from having to micro-manage an overly complex budget.
Best of luck! Thanks for your feedback.
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I might have missed this, but curious how you delete categories you don’t want/need. I only need about 5 categories and the rest listed in mint just mess my whole system up!
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@Cori
Just had a look over at Mint to confirm…
Unfortunately, you can’t delete the standard categories…you can only Add/Edit/Delete categories that you’ve added yourself.
Sorry to not have better news for you!
Thanks,
Geoff
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This is a great way to get a big picture view of your spending. However, it would seem to make a lot of sense to do this via Mint’s tagging feature; unfortunately, since mint doesn’t have an automated “tagging” system, this requires one to go through each transaction.
For those who would like both views, perhaps it would be possible to have two mint accounts–one that tracks everything, and one that tracks only income and spending. In the first account one could set up things to function the “normal” way, and in the second one could set up rules that classified transactions as needs, wants, and savings transfers.
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Great tip! Another way to do this would be to set up tags for the categories. That way you can have the granularity of the categories automagically assigned by mint and the high level information that makes it ‘easy’
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@Alex H @Jason
Thanks for your feedback!
Agreed, if you’re interested in maintaining the use of detailed categories, then tags are a great option for implementing the Balanced Money Formula.
As Alex mentioned though, there isn’t an automated tagging feature based on rules with Mint, so you need to update your transactions manually, either one-by-one or in batches.
Since my goal was to develop a ‘light-touch’ budget, this manual update requirement lead me to pursue a different approach.
Geoff
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How do we transfer money to categories we have a surplus for the month in? For example, maybe we ate out more this month and our utilities usage was lower than expected. So, we want to shift some of our utilities to restaurants.
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