Follow-Up: Save More or See the World?
Published on - March 11th, 2011 (Modified on - March 14th, 2011) (by J.D. Roth) I get a lot of requests for follow-ups to reader stories and reader questions. People want to hear how things turned out. Because I want to know how things turned out, too, I’ve started a semi-regular feature at Get Rich Slowly. Whenever I hear back from a previous poster, I’ll share an update so that we can all know what happened.
Max wrote in July of 2009 to ask if he should save more or see the world. My advice was to sell his house, put half of his profit in savings, and then use the rest to travel on the cheap. Though some of the 166 reader comments urged caution, most encouraged Max to follow his dream. (Please read the previous post for details on Max’s situation.)
Well, Max wrote recently with an update on his decision:
For starters, I’d like to thank the hundreds of commenters who provided wise and valuable advice. I’ve taken some time to consider their responses and properly evaluate my options.
I decided to keep the condo an extra year, then put it up for sale. It took a few months, but the condo finally sold and left me with nearly $30,000.
After a year of reviewing my options, I’ve taken the plunge, quit my job, and booked a flight to Japan. I even started taking Japanese lessons to prepare for the trip. I’ll then be heading to Australia for one year to enjoy the warmer climate. Thanks to my recently granted Australian work/holiday visa, I’ll be able to work and ensure I don’t completely drain my bank account.
Honestly, I have no idea what I’m doing, but I think that’s what motivated me to make this decision. There’s a feeling of freedom knowing I can roam a strange territory and choose the type of work I do, for pleasure as opposed to necessity. As many others have mentioned, worst case I spend everything and return to the same point I was before I left, but with a ton of priceless experiences, and an additional spoken language.
In regards to investments, I opted to place half my money into a conservative low-risk savings account generating little interest, but allowing me to withdraw the funds at any moment without penalty. As I mentioned in my previous email, I’m interested in working on one of my business ideas, and I feel more secure investing those funds in myself (my business) as opposed to someone else’s business. It’s a much higher risk, but at least I’ll have full control over it, and I’m willing to accept the consequences if I fail.
Thanks a lot for your reply and comments. It’s greatly appreciated.
To be honest, I’m jealous. I wish I had done something similar when I was Max’s age. But I couldn’t. I was deep in debt. Max has made some smart choices, and these have put him in a position to follow a dream. Best wishes, Max, and drop us a line again in a couple of years so we can follow your progress.
If you have shared a reader story at GRS (or asked a question), please feel free to send me a follow-up to let us know how things turned out, whether for good or ill. This is a great way for us all to see how well (or poorly) the Get Rich Slowly philosophy works when put into action.
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“After a year of reviewing my options, I’ve taken the plunge, quit my job, and booked a flight to Japan.”
Not sure when the exact timeline is for all this, but I sure hope he’s not in Japan *now*. D:
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I was going to say– odd timing.
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Great stuff! Careful though Max … I got an 18-month work visa (to the US, as it happens) when I was in my early twenties and am still on this side of the pond almost 12 years later!
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Congrats, Max! You’re going to have a wonderful adventure! You’re at the right time in your life to take risks and experience as much as you can. You’ll never look back on your decision and you’ll probably learn what’s really important in life – and that it’s not all about the money. That’s what happened with me when I left my job to ride a motorcycle for 6 months through Latin America. Best of luck, buddy!
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It’s good to follow your dreams, but I hope Max is safe if he’s still in Japan.
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Eventually, even great savers need to ask themselves: “What’s it all for?”
I had great savings habits, and after building up a considerable stack of cash (and no debt), I decided to spend it all …. by traveling across Europe, the Middle East, Asia and Australia for more than two years. No job. No responsibility. Just pure, unencumbered travel.
And you know what? I don’t miss those savings one bit.
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Oh dear! I assume he’s not in Japan yet, but it does feel kinda weird reading this today.
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Hopefully you are not in Japan now…
You never know where your adventure will lead to, it will be unsettling at times but it will be amazing for sure.
I did something similar 12 years ago and my life took a very special turn, for the best. I developed special skills and knowledge, met great people from all over the world and landed interesting jobs.
One advice : follow your passions and have no regrets.
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Very cool. I’m jealous. (I know it sounds like one of those “don’t be jealous, you could do it too” kind of situations. But really, it’s not. $300,000 in equity is a pipe dream for a lot of us. And for those of us with negative equity, all we can do is dream…)
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I’m a saver and we only went to France once a year. But a few years ago I decided that I didn’t want to wait till my retirement to travel, so I asked 3 friends to join me for Christmas shopping in London. We had such fun that each year we go to another European city. like Prague, Rome, Barcelona. I also take my daughter sometimes, 2 weeks ago we spent a weekend in Berlin. I don’t save as much as I used to, but it’s certainly worth it!
ps I live in the Netherlands, so it’s only a 1 hr flight to London, Paris, Berlin…
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Sounds like a great decision, Max! Enjoy your adventure – what a terrific opportunity and a great way to learn about the world…and yourself!
Thanks for letting us follow up on Max’s story, J.D.
Safe travels Max!
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I follow a number of blogs of people who have saved in order to be able to travel. I think it’s great, and I hope I can spend a few years traveling in the future. But it’s strange, I never hear of the adventure-seekers saving for retirement. It seems that most make it out of debt, form an emergency fund, store some extra cash, and take off to another country. I struggle to see how one can save for retirement this way… even if you have enough money to travel now, how does that translate into savings for later, especially when you’re missing out on years of compounding interest?
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I know he wants to learn another language – I encourage him to “trade” his native English to someone who wants one-on-one tutoring in exchange for their native Japanese. It’s free and you’re both benefiting.
One tip: Set a timer for 1 hour, and then switch languages for another hour. If you don’t use the timer, one or the other might feel like they aren’t getting a lot of out of it.
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Max, let us know you’re OK, please? There’s adventure, and there’s adventure!
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I think that’s a great idea.
And FYI, there’s a wonderful world of travel bloggers out there if you need friends on the road or just want to hear about people doing the same thing
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Dan–the point of life is to live, not to retire.
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Congratulations Max! It’s always inspiring to see someone living their dreams
I am intrigued by the work/holiday visa that will enable you to live and work legally in Australia for a year. How did you find out about that program, and was it difficult to get the visa?
Does anyone know whether that a program that is unique to that country, or maybe some resources for researching legal work/stay options in other countries?
Maybe even travel-related post at GRS– a how-to/primer on choosing a country and getting the documents to work there if you wanted to stay longer than a few months.
Again, congrats and I hope that if you’re still in Japan you are well and safe.
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I think that life is about truly having fun, seeing the world, having amazing experience, and of course having a strong family and raising productive, happy, and healthy kids. What Max did was a brave thing, that many people would be hesitant to do. What’s all the money in the world worth if you aren’t enjoying your life. Obviously, money is important b/c it allows us to do the things we love, but we have to keep our eyes on the bigger picture (why we need the money).
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My sister left a job after 10 years to travel for six months, with enough savings for a year upon her return in case it took her that long to find another job. That was three years ago; she’s still unemployed and gets by draining her 401(k) and stock portfolio, taking out a home equity loan, plus help from us siblings but mostly from our retired parents. While I’m glad she had fun and there’s no way she (or anyone) could have predicted the economy tanking, they are the ones paying for it now.
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Good on you Max. I hope you make it to New Zealand whilst you are in Australia as there is so much we offer tourists here. The South Island is gorgeous and I made sure that was my first travel experience once I’d left school!
I love traveling and try to go overseas once a year for 3 weeks or for an extended stay every 3-4 years. I find that once my retirement savings goes out each month that I still have plenty to save for travel (tips from this site & The Simple Dollar have been a great help to live frugally). I don’t spend much during the year and value my travel experiences. Also by biking most places and only using my car 1-2 times a week I save money on gas and exercise classes which I put towards traveling.
Definitely take the time to enjoy the travel as the experiences are priceless as you say, and also can become great talking points when meeting new people! I am planning a trip to Europe June/July and have contacted many people that I have met on previous trips for ideas/recommendations as locals have the best knowledge!
My travel experiences cost alot more than if I just took off for a year or two, however I love my job and activities I do in the community such as Girl Guide Leader and involvement in sports clubs so find it hard to leave for too long.
Follow your dreams, take lots of photos and when you’re bored of traveling then you can settle down to a life of mortgages and 9-5 jobs.
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I started on a working holiday visa in New Zealand for a year and never left!! So once he is done with Oz move on to NZ and enjoy the travel! It is so good to hear people doing these things instead of talking about them or how much money they will lose!
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J.D., I know we can’t, but can you email Max to see if he responds? Your readership is concerned, it’s what happens when we invest heart and time (and also live vicariously through others!). Hope we hear something.
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A follow up to the questions about working holiday visas. This is a fantastic idea for anyone who does not have a “ton” of money. This visa allows you to work and travel in the set country for a set period of time. There are also set age restrictions for these kinds of visas.
Here is some wiki info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Working_holiday_visa
My recommendation is to have a look but both the Australian and New Zealand programs are amazing and easy to apply for. They last for 1 year and you have to be under 30.
Good luck!
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Just received this from Max:
“I’m actually in Tokyo and everything is just fine. We’re still getting some big aftershocks almost 2 full days after the event, but it’s nothing compared to what we got on Friday.”
Thanks for your concern, everyone.
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Thanks for the update.
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Thanks for the update…glad he’s ok!
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I left for Tokyo one month ago and I’ve really been enjoying my time here. I’m still young and healthy, and realize I can be of great help to the Japanese people in the event of another disaster (nuclear or earthquake) in the near future. For that reason, I’ll be extending my stay and providing assistance to those who need it most.
I’m very happy to have left my home country to come to Japan, despite the recent events which are quite terrifying, I feel much more useful being here than I would being back home in “safety”.
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Max, I’m glad you are safe and able to help the Japanese in any capacity.
JD, would you consider some kind of charity contribution center or anything, possibly as directed by Max, as he’s there and may see clear ways to help?
(I was very touched by this story http://www.blogher.com/bloggess-and-her-christmas-miracle and how people donated to help one another – I work with the bloggess’s husband — it seemed like a very nice way to enable a virtual community to do something real).
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In regards to the comment about saving for retirement, when my wife and I left for Croatia for an extended period several years ago I made sure to set an automatic monthly w/drawal from my travel account to deposit into my roth IRA. I also set aside living expenses for our return in a separate account in case it took awhile to find work (which it did, we returned fall 2008). And also maintained a third account for emergency savings to prevent raiding my retirement accounts. We postponed our trip several times until we felt we had sufficient funds in all accounts. Despite the uncertainties and stress we felt because of the economy when we returned it was well worth it and I highly recommend that anyone so inclined go for it if you can. Extended travel can be cheaper than regular vacations b/c the shorter the trip the more likely you are to justify blowing money on an expensive hotel room, dinner, show, etc. so it’s not as much of a budget buster or more expensive undertaking as you might think.
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