Reader Story: Debt-Free College Education as a Returning Student
Published on - March 27th, 2011 (by J.D. Roth) This guest post from Penny Saver is part of the “reader stories” feature at Get Rich Slowly. It’s a response to Crystal’s reader story about how she avoided student loans. Some stories contain general advice; others are examples of how a GRS reader achieved financial success — or failure. These stories feature folks from all levels of financial maturity and with all sorts of incomes. Penny Saver writes about making the most of meager means at The Saved Quarter.
Two weeks ago, Crystal shared her story about how she avoided student loans. Though a lot of the comments argued about if she really avoided student loans, I was more interested in the comment from Carla, who wrote:
Now that I’m in my mid 30′s, I’m almost determined to do the impossible. It would be nice to have articles highlighting people who do/did go to college as ADULTS with challenges such as disabilities, no financial cushion (parents) and/or who is not as sharp as Crystal and have to struggle.
Although I’m not dealing with disabilities, I’m a returning student in my thirties, living on a low income without parental support. Years at home with children have addled my brain a little! I wanted to share how college can be done — debt-free even — as a returning adult.
Work or School?
I always knew I wanted to go to college and get my degree. But between community college and now, life got in the way. The first time around, I didn’t have much support at home while in college. I wasn’t able to take out student loans to pay for college without my parents signing the FAFSA, but they were unwilling, and were unable to provide me with monetary support themselves, so I took a year off to save up money and pay my own way. That year turned into two. Then three. Then four. Eventually, I woke up a decade later — happily married with kids, but without my bachelor’s degree.
My education was on the back burner, the goal simmering while I stayed home to parent two young children and to support my husband in building his business. While this was personally satisfying, the full-time job of parenthood doesn’t come with a paycheck and didn’t present me with the challenges that I know I’m capable of achieving. When the economy took a nose-dive and my husband’s income feel, it seemed to make financial sense for me to go back to work. But my lack of a degree and years out of the workforce — to change diapers, read Dr. Seuss, and play Candyland — didn’t help my résumé rise to meet current hiring managers’ expectations.
We were debt-free, but we struggled to make ends meet. Taking a low-wage job would cost my family money after accounting for childcare. It was clear that going back to school would give me skills, something to put on my résumé, and that all-important degree. By going back to school, I could skip the low-wage job and start a career for myself after graduation. It would also fulfill me in a way that my family life couldn’t: I could complete the goal that I’d set out for myself, expand the way I look at the world, and show my children the importance of education, hard work, and determination.
Making the Dream Come True
In 2010, I set a goal to save a quarter of our income: $6,000 for an emergency fund. When I met my goal, I realized that debt-free college was also achievable. I set that as my follow-up goal. I still don’t have (nor do I expect) financial support from my parents, but I’m taking advantage of a variety of options available to low-income and returning students to get through and graduate from college debt-free.
I returned to school last fall, taking classes at night while my husband is home with the kids. I do my schoolwork during naptime. I opted to take business classes at a small private college that would allow me to graduate in two years, rather than at a state school, where it would take me four years. The expense is greater, but I’ll graduate and return to the workforce two years sooner — a cost-effective tradeoff. Balancing my home and school life — as well as blogging and bringing in money through a variety of odd jobs — is more difficult than it was when I was nineteen. Still, I haven’t been disappointed in my decision to return.
What is this costing me?
- Tuition and fees for 17 courses at primary college at $1,500 per course = $25,500
- Tuition for 6 courses at community college to complete lower division work = $0 (I get California’s Board of Governor’s waiver, which covers my community college tuition)
- Course materials and books for 21 courses at an average $100 per course = $2,100 (I avoid the school bookstore, instead opting to save on textbooks by buying online, using ebooks, and other methods of getting them for less than full price)
- Fees at community college = $186
So, the total I’ll need to graduate is $27,786. I don’t count “room and board”, which hasn’t changed since returning to school. Where will this money come from?
- Pell Grant: $13,875
- Individual Development Account Matching Grant: $6,000 (I’m contributing $2,000 of this $6,000 matching grant)
- The American Opportunity Tax Credit: $2,000
- Bernard Osher Scholarship: $2,500
- Out of pocket: $3,411
I’m incredibly grateful for programs like the Pell Grant, Individual Development Accounts, and scholarships that help unconventional, older, and low-income students reach their goals. These programs increase the options for gainful employment. Without them, I wouldn’t have gone back to school, a step that will surely improve my chances of financial independence.
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Good luck.
You have done a very good job in finding all the scholarships, grants and tax credits you could possibly get.
You seem to be very determined in getting that graduate degree.
Congratulations.
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Good for you! Congratulations on going back and getting that degree! And great job finding financial aid to help!
Remember that the degree isn’t a guarantee for a new career– spend a lot of time networking with the help of the career development office. Utilize all the resources a university gives. Talk to alumni, go to job fairs, etc. I know it sounds crazy not to, but you would be surprised what 21-23 year olds often don’t do.
I can’t believe your parents wouldn’t sign the FAFSA. It’s not like signing it would have put them on the hook for any money. I’m glad you are able to go back now.
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Congratulations on finding a way to get back to school through savings and scholarships. The ability to research what is available, know how much you need to save, and implementing it all is a feat unto itself!
As a full-time worker with a growing family, who is also trying to build a business in my “spare” time, I am really interested in how you juggle everything. I find it extremely challenging to do anything productive after a day of work and then a night with family. I need to rest! Therefore my side business , I suffers. JD, a follow up post to Penny’s story would be very beneficial!
Good luck!
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BRAVO!
College education and credentialing are worthwhile pursuits. And I do not mean just in dollar terms but to develop systematic thought process, effective people skills and recognizing potential opportunities. As always there will be the odd outlier but for the most of us college education is the best investment.
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@Lonnie, I’m not the OP, but I juggled a demanding full-time job and trying to complete a Master’s degree (as well as time wih family). There’s no way around it, it’s hard. It’s really, really hard.
If there is one financial decision I could go back and redo, it would be my decision to try and juggle a graduate degree and that full-time job. It seemed to make financial sense at the time: keep my job, earn money and pay off the courses as they came along.
In reality, it took me twice as long to complete the degree (paying tuition the whole way through), and I wasn’t eligible for financial aid or assistantships as a part-time student.
I’m glad I got the degree in the end (last December! Hoorah!), but when I seriously sit down and think about it, I put myself through four years of headache that I’m not sure was worth it on balance.
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I am sorry your parents wouldn’t sign the FAFSA! (I probably would have resorted to forgery…
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It is great you are returning to school and you found a program that will work so well for you. The fact you will have to pay so little is absolutely fantastic!!
You are such a hard worker and such a disciplined person that I know you will succeed!
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Great article! I agree with appreciating the ways our government helps older students return to school. I’m back in school in my late 20s for a teaching license. Since I already have my BS, I’m not eligible for as many items as Penny Saver is. But I do get a tax credit, and I managed to get a TAship that covers 9 of my 18 credits each term and pays me $900 a month, which covers my living expenses. I did choose to take out loans for my remaining credits rather than dip into my savings account. At the end of two years, I’ll have ~ $12,000 in subsidized Stafford loans (which means no interest accumulates until I’m done with school). It seems like a lot, but I’ve never taken out student loans before, and I think this was a smarter option than trying to work myself to the bone. I also have a savings cushion that will pay off the majority of those loans should I not be able to find a job.
So, to all those out there wanting to return to school, there are ways.
oh, and @Nicole (comment #2), you are so right about networking. I didn’t do that the first time around, and I really regret not networking. I really foundered upon leaving college and drifted from short-term job to short-term job. They were all in my field, but still . . . would have been nice to make some connections that would have helped me get hired.
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One of my really good friends who I met at grad school is in his 30s and has a family. He originally dropped out/was kicked out of school when he was younger (after going directly from high school). However, he went back in his early 30s, did a undergrad, then a masters, and then I met him when he was starting his PhD.
I know it’s been much more of a struggle for him, as he can’t always work the same number of hours as other grads. And there are days he has to stay home with a sick child. Or when they don’t have school. But I also know that one of the things he really likes about it, is that he’s showing his kids that he values education.
Anyway, I think it’s a great that you’re back at school and meeting one of your dreams. Good luck and enjoy the experience.
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Congratulations to you for figuring out a way to make this goal a reality without acquiring large amounts of debt. I admire your tenacity! Also, I was thrilled to see you received a Bernard Osher Scholarship; I had the distinct pleasure of working for his sister for many years at a company for which she was CEO. They are a family who places a tremendous value on education and are extraordinarily generous in helping others. You go, girl!
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I would recommend another way to save money on the textbooks. I found out what they were in advance and then went to the campus library to see what they were about. If it wasn’t anything with problems (like math) I just didn’t buy the book. For so many classes, you buy the book and then maybe only 1/4 to 1/3 of it is actually assigned reading. Why not save the money and just plan to go to the library a bit more often?
Also, make sure that the degree you are going back for is something that will lead to a job right out of school. My mom went back in her 40′s, but her degree wasn’t something she could ever use to start a career in that field. Probably the only fields where I am seeing consistent new job postings now is Nursing and Radiological Tech.
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I loved your story! I sometimes get so sick of people who play the victim because their family could not help or the economy took a turn. I work hard every day to pay for my loans and help pave the way for my daughter. My family was in no shape to help so I took off three years to save some money and am so glad I did. I appreciated it much more than many kids who go at 18 and don’t do so hot.
Congratulations and bon chance!
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Congrats! You will probably profit a lot more than most because this is something you really want, your own money is at stake, and the rewards are not just for you but for your whole family. That’s great motivation. When I taught college (during grad school) the grownups were invariably the most dedicated and enthusiastic bunch.
I see you’ve got a scholarship, and here’s the good news: the more scholarships you get, the more you’ll be able to get in the future. That’s how the system works, whether it’s scholarships, grants, or awards of any kind. So don’t stop researching and applying for those, because the ones you already have will open up new opportunities. You’ll be surprised at the number of scholarships you can find if you dig deep.
Also, make it to the Dean’s List & stay there, and while you might not get free tuition (depending on where you are, some schools give you a free ride for this, some offer other benefits) you’ll have greater access to financial support from any sources.
And there will be lots of free or low-cost services at your school, from carer counseling to fitness classes to massage, so take advantage of everything you can as well. Your tuition doesn’t just pay for the classes but it covers all those services– get your money’s worth. And get involved in professional organizations. Networking is a must, as it was already mentioned.
Lastly, I don’t know how you’ll manage to do it all, but I’ve started out with GTD and it looks promising– seems to be a great way to handle overload and avoid burnout. I wish I had been taught this system when I was 6 years old, but oh well, better late than never!
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Sounds like you are doing things right.
I’ll put in two plugs. Harvard’s continuing education division offers online courses, often with taped lectures of the undergraduate courses. For undergrad credit (4 credits) the cost is currently under $1000 a course: Harvard Extension Distance Ed You don’t apply for admission until you have successfully completed several classes, included their writing composition class. I think all adult programs should do this.
I learned about them when I took some time off school to work and someone recommended taking at least one class a semester to not get out of “study mode.” I would recommend this to anyone working to save for college.
Also, Cal Newport’s Study Hacks blog is invaluable. Although he is talking about standing out at a highly competitive university, the tips and outlook do scale to the work/family/college level.
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Thank you for the positive response!
@Nicole – I’m definitely networking. I joined the Business and Economics club and will certainly be attending the many job fairs and events once I’m closer to graduation.
@Lonnie – It’s tough! I try to balance everything, but I spend a lot of weekends and evenings in the library and miss out on some of the fun kid activities. My kids and husband went to a birthday party yesterday and I stayed home to work on a research paper; I would have much rather been at the party! I do a lot of homework during naptime.
@Kate – I understand that! I’m slowing down after this semester because I’m just killing myself with a full class load and family obligations! It is definitely taking me longer and I don’t have the “college experience” doing it this way, but I’m getting through it.
@Leah – If I didn’t qualify for the Pell, I might have had the same debt to graduate. It’s not ideal but you’re likely to make more after graduating. Good luck!
@Chickybeth – I love your library suggestion! I’ll try that next semester.
I’m a business management major, which seems pretty flexible for finding a career.
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There is a wonderful organization called P.E.O. which has grants, scholarships and loans for women in all phases of education. Crystal would probably qualify for more than one. They have an informative website at http://www.peointernational.org
The applicant has to work with a local chapter to interview, but its not too hard to receive these funds as education support for women is the main mission.
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I love hearing about people saving money! I wish I’d filled out the FAFSA paperwork. My parents would have signed my papers. I just didn’t know enough about the process I guess. I ended up paying less than $5000 for college (along the way from pt work funds) after scholarships. (State University) I lived at home to save on living expenses.
Thanks for sharing your story.
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Penny is definitely an inspiration. I worked hard through college, but I think doing so with a family and kids belongs in another stratosphere of working hard.
A great program for those on the East Coast is Mount Holyoke’s Frances Perkins program. (see here: http://www.mtholyoke.edu/fp/) It is designed especially for nontraditional students, and offers some financial aid.
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When I went back to school for my MBA, I found the tax credits to be extremely helpful!
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I love hearing the options for returning adults, like the one at Harvard and Mt. Holyoke! If you know of others, please share.
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I want to say I like your website. I am disappointed that you featured The Saved Quarter on your site. She saved a quarter of her income in one year by being on SNAP benefits.She legally qualified I guess, but to put it on your blog, and faunt it in the face of us who CAN”T save because of being $50 per month over their limit income wise. When I am 62 years old disabled, single self supporting,having several chronic medical conditions and NO medical insurance. I am offended that she would have the nerve to brag about how much money she saved when she was getting thousands of dollars per year in benefits from the state where she lives.If you go back and read her blog comments you will find many people gave negative comments.Of coarse she did not post the ones that nailed her to the wall.Like me I read many blogs to learn the best way to handle the little money I have to live on.No I did not prepare well for my future with 401K etc. I was a single mother of 3, and I got NO state benefits. I paid for all our food, medical care etc. So my monies went for daily survival. I have no respect for her (penny) or her advise. May not be illegal, but in my eyes very unethical. Especially to brag about it.
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I also posted every negative or critical comment received, except one that contained cursing as I do not allow cursing on my blog. You can see my response to some of that here:
http://thesavedquarter.com/2010/06/snap-judgements/
http://thesavedquarter.com/2010/06/response-snap-judgments/
I’m sorry to hear that you find my advise unethical. I think that trying to make the best of a difficult situation and save for a personal buffer so I don’t need as much government assistance is a good thing, and do not see it as unethical. I wish that more people who received assistance took advantage of that time to make good financial choices and find a way to get off them and stay off. It’s the “hand up, not hand out” as is so often said.
I’m trying to make the best financial choices given my situation, and for me, taking SNAP allowed me to get back on even footing and make even better choices for my family’s future. That’s why I’m back in school now.
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I would recommend that you try to attend some professional networking organizations while you are still in college. Getting to know the local business community is the best contact for possible employment and learning about the local companies. I suggest attending some of your local Chamber of Commerce meetings, and as you get further, volunteer for some of their committees to get known by other business people. Or if you already know the type of business, attend some of their organization meetings.
Get to know your future employers and coworkers while you are in college.
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I am so happy to see that you’re using an Individual Development Account (or IDA). I work in the college access field (non-profit agencies and programs designed to help people get into education after high school), and the IDAs are AMAZING!
Some even match $5 for every $1 the student puts in. What a rate of return!
To locate an IDA program near you, try the CFED website:
http://cfed.org/programs/idas/directory_search/
Good luck to everyone!
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@Susan – those are great tips! My husband and I were members of the Junior Chamber of Commerce before the kids were born, but I hadn’t considered the Chamber as a college student!
@Jenn – it is a fantastic program! 5-1 is awesome as well. Mine is 2-1 and I am thrilled to have that!
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Great article! I wish I had done more research into different ways of paying for my education before I went the student loans route.
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That’s great that you were able to find so many scholarships and grants. You’re essentially paying what, 15% out of pocket for the whole degree? That’s awesome!
Also, congrats on making the decision to go back to school. It’s tough for a lot of people to devote themselves to something besides work, even when they know it might benefit them (school, exercise, building that relationship with Mom and Dad, etc.)
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Congratulations to Crystal!
I went back to school a couple of years ago for a community college certificate that would better position me for a new job after 20+ years home with the kids and aging in-laws. I am now very happily employed in what should’ve been my career all along.
Two resources: I found renting textbooks to be very convenient (campustextbookrental.com) and just read about the Western Governors University, a nonprofit online institution that offers more than 50 degrees in teaching, business, information technology, and nursing, from bachelor’s programs to MBAs. It was founded by the governors of 19 western states in 1997.
Best of luck to everyone who makes the effort to improve themselves and the lives of those they love.
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Way to go! I really admire what you are doing for yourself and for your family. It must be extremely challenging, but you are doing a great job!
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Penny,
Thanks for sharing your story! For adults that didn’t finish their bachelor’s degree, if they qualify for a Pell grant it can make an education very affordable. Many low income adults can receive $5,500 a year in Pell grants that can more than cover the cost of community college classes and come close to covering in-state tuition as state colleges. The key is to make sure you pass your classes.
I thought the comments on networking were really good. A degree is not a cure all for employment. Get a degree in which their are jobs and network and intern with people who you want to work.
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Congrats on going back to school! I am in a similar boat, minus the kids, hubby, and financial assistance.
My Dad would not sign the FAFSA papers either. He did not think we qualified (we did) and did not want his tax information out in the open. Of course he still claimed me on his taxes so I was sol.
This left me with plan B: get a full time job w/ benefits and save as much as possible for school until he could no longer claim me as a dependent and then file myself!
Fast forward 4 years. My plan backfired. I had to spend part of my school savings on a car (used of course.). Public transit was not an option and I had to make it to work somehow. Due to a raise a few years back I make just above what would allow me to qualify for any form of assistance. Trust me, I tried.
I am basically back at square 1, 4 years later, with a little bit more in savings.
I just love how my friends who live rent free and have jobs that are basically “fun money” get so much financial aid while I work my butt off and get nothing.
One thing I will say is I am doing much better in school at 26 than I was at 18. Difficult classes are now easy. I am not sure if my brain fully matured, I matured, or if I am more dedicated. Whatever it is is working.
As others said: take full advantage of campus programs and deals. You pay for them so use them. Health care is a big one, discounts at local businesses is another. You can also sign up for edhance.com and get cash back. It is exclusive to students and similar to ebates.com. Also, dont forget your school ID card gets you into movies (and other places) for the student price.
And network network network! You never know which of your fellow students or teachers will be the one to help you get your foot in the door.
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I’ll be finishing up my doctoral work in September after a 2 1/2 year effort. We have cash-flowed every penny of the hefty tuition. My ability to do this was due to the following 4 reasons:
1) we had our financial house in order before I started school – no debt, full emergency fund, retirement savings on auto-pilot
2)I am employed by the university. This translates to a 50% discount on tuition. Thank God!!! It was expensive enough even with the tuition break
3)I work full-time and
4)I attend school part-time = 2 classes per semester.
BUT the overarching reason I will have my debt-free PhD soon is because we have a long-established habit of living below our means. This was the critical factor.
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Sad story with a happy ending. Went to college, got to junior year, and just dropped out. Went to work full time, got married and had kids. Got a technical college degree in culinary arts and worked for years in that industry.
My mom, who so wanted me to finish college passed away. Her estate gave me enough money to return to school and I did. I graduated, as a non traditional student, with honors, debt free. Thanks to my mom, who would have loved the writing award I won. If you want it, you will find a way to get it.
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Why is it that parents won’t sign the FAFSA? It’s mentioned here and in a couple of comments, and Crystal said the same thing in her story. Do they not want to give out their information? Or do they not understand the process and think they’re signing onto a loan?
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You guys have some great tips, and I’m taking notes. Thanks for the warm response, and I hope that someone else considering returning to school can see that it’s challenging but doable. I am loving hearing about how you guys went back and got it done, too! Very encouraging!
@Justin – I’m glad I’m going now, as a frugal adult, because my 19 year old self would have taken out extra loans to buy unnecessary stuff. My 32 year old self is much more financially disciplined and resourceful!
@Claudia – I’ll look into
@Danielle – I’m doing so much better now than I did as a young adult! I think you’re right that the maturity makes a difference, as does the devotion. I am much more interested in doing it right the first time, put the study time in, and with so many other things to do, I don’t waste time like I used to. That helps! My GPA now is leaps and bounds above my community college years!
@Kim – Good for you! We’re also debt free and have the emergency fund, which definitely helps. The university employee part is a brilliant strategy for saving money!
@Samantha – my parents didn’t think we’d qualify for anything and didn’t want to give their information. They also thought that if I got a student loan, they would have to pay for it, and no amount of proof could convince them otherwise. They did help me pay for community college and let me live at home during that time, which was very helpful.
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WOW. I really admire your tenacity and wish you nothing but the best in your studies
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For younger people headed down the same road (trying to balance marriage + college) — Getting married cuts your ties to your parents in regards to FAFSA. I didn’t qualify for FAFSA because of my parents income. I got married, their income didn’t count anymore and based on my income I was extremely qualified.
FAFSA eligibility might be one of the few financial benefits to getting married young.
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It depresses and angers me when I hear about parents refusing to fill out the FAFSA. That document is the ticket to a college education for most students right out of high school, still living with parents.
Without it, you can’t get a Stafford loan (which is in just the student’s name). Those loans are partially or fully subsidized by the government, saving a lot of interest over the years.
Every student, regardless of family income, is eligible to take out a Stafford loan.
A lot of outside scholarships also require a FAFSA to demonstrate financial need. Any parent who refuses to complete is really tying their child’s hands.
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Way to go! You’re proof that it’s never too late to get your degree. Very inspiring story and best of luck!
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As a high school teacher, I hear too many expectations of “I have to complete my college education NOW.”
I was on the 13-year undergrad plan. In the meanwhile, I lived in Europe for 9 years, traveled, had a relatively successful retail career and started a family. When I finally did the last two years as a non-traditional/traditional student (all I did was go to school) I was in my 30′s with two small kids. Remember the college/university you attend probably has sweet deals for childcare (with their pre-K students, who are still idealistic and have a lot of energy)
My master’s degree I did completely online while I was working full-time. (still had those two kids) It’s do-able, but it does take a lot of planning–and support. Without my husband I doubt I would have made it.
As for finances, we did need loans while we took turns finishing our undergrad studies (maybe $8000 between us) But we paid CASH for a Master’s Degree by using the tuition payment program (we paid off a mortgage at the same time)
Anyway, the point of my story is not everyone needs to attend college right out of high school. And not everyone needs to attend full time.
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Congratulations go to the OP – a decent education can make all the difference – my income more than doubled within a year of graduating with my postgraduate qualification.
But still, what’s this article actually about? One woman’s success at applying for grants/scholarships? I’m not really sure how this fits into the vein of ‘Get Rich Slowly’ as she hasn’t really had a financial ‘journey’ beyond being good at making grant applications! For example, she mentions her emergency fund and then tapers off into not really mentioning anything else about her finances.
I can easily appreciate how some commentators might feel a bit grumpy at her successful return to education! A bit more detail as regards the sacrifices made in terms of part-time work/balancing childcare etc. might make this piece sound a little more human and a bit less like ‘how I managed to get return to education without paying for it’.
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@Samantha – My dad thought he made too much, thinking we must be on welfare to qualify. he also hates giving out his personal information. I begged him for it for probably 2 years before giving up. I dont think i will ever forgive him.
I was on track to finish college in 4 years. Chances are I would be 4 years into my career right now and be in a better place financially if he had just signed that paper.
Bitter? Resentful? You betcha!
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I really like this. Can we do a reader story from a medical student or law student who took out a lot in loans? I am sure this is an interesting topic. I took out a lot in law school loans but don’t regret (mostly b/c I have a job that I like that pays me enough to pay off my debt) but I am sure I’d feel differently if I didn’t have this job.
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@41, you might enjoy brokeprofessionals.com
Btw, H&R Block now explains and helps parents fill out the FAFSA. If parents go there to do their taxes, they might be able to explain away the paranoia. http://getitright.hrblock.com/tax-tips/tip.html?id=1693349&title=tips-for-filling-out-the-free-application-for-federal-student-aid-fafsa-form
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First of all: congratulations for starting this. A solid course may be hard, but is (IMHO) much more worth than self-study or reading books. The interaction with students and teachers will help you learn more, and following a complete study also addresses the areas you might not find that interesting or useful on forehand.
I have completed several masters degrees while working (working on my thesis for nr 4, which is 3rd study while working) and yes, it can be hard, but it is doable. I found that as a working adult, I was able to bring more concentration and dedicated effort to the study table, resulting in much less stress for exams. I personally have not had to skip many parties, in busy (exam) periods I usually got up 1,5 hours earlier and went to study. There is something very nice about having all that work done before the day starts (bit like paying yourself first I guess). That 1,5 hours a day pays for a lot if you can keep it up and you’ll never have to feel guilty in the evening.
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Congratulations Penny!
@Lonnie, I am supporting my husband through his second degree since we married and reproduced. Basically you cut out everything from your schedule that isn’t completely necessary.
Currently, I work full time, he goes to school full time and works 24 hours per week, and we parent two elementary-aged kids. We are fortunate to be able to handle the current program without significant financial sacrifice, but time is definitely an issue. I made it a priority to go out with a friend at least once a month, but my husband doesn’t see his friends at all. Sad that our first=grader has a better social life than we do!
When we married, my husband was in a top-rated Ivy League masters degree program for his field. He’s currently enrolled in a community college. That’s had good points (tuition) and bad points (one instructor showed up the first day of class and ripped the cellophane off the teacher’s manual.) I’ve found it interesting seeing the difference between quality of programs. (This program is more a of personal development endeavor to help him expand his knowledge base for work, rather than something necessary to change career.)
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Almost any graduate degree is FREE. If you get an assistantship to TA or RA, you get your tuition waived and a stipend at almost any state school (not sure about private school).
The problem going back to school as an adult is that you can’t live off of that stipend because your lifestyle has inflated. You may be paying off credit card debt, trying to pad your 401k, living in a nicer place than student housing, have a smart phone and cable, etc.
When I went back to grad school, I intended to do so part time, one or two classes per semester, taking as long as necessary, while maintaining my job. Some of my coworkers are doing this.
But if you want to solely go to school and you can’t get out of your lease and move to student housing, you need to sit down and figured out the bare minimum you can live off of each month, factoring in that you can defer your undergrad student loans if you have any. Then compare your drop-dead income needs to the stipend amount, factoring in that you will need to buy books. Then you have to find that money.
I went to my employer with my calculations and they gave me a scholarship to help me make ends meet while I agreed to get my degree as quickly as possible (I earned a masters in one year with one class left over to take when I went back to work full time). I also had to sign a contract that I would work for them for X number of years or else pay back the scholarship money. Not that I will EVER leave an employer who would do this for me!
Emotionally and psychologically it was hard to go back to school after 7 years of working in the private sector. It was hard to get used to the rhythm of life as a student and it took me way too long to realize I needed to go to my fellow students for help and studying. When I finally did, I realized they had all been supporting each other all along, and I felt dumb for never reaching out sooner. Oh yeah, I also felt dumb the whole. entire. time. But that’s normal in grad school. You will feel like an idiot. Otherwise you’re not learning anything new.
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I’d like to know more about these IDA’s. Looking for a “program near me” brings up very little information in my area (Maryland).
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In my experience, in private schools (and for MBAs) you can’t get through free as a TA or RA.
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Penny / SavedQuarter :
Why would public college take 4 years vs. 2 years with a private college? A Bachelor’s requires the same number of credits no matter where you take it, so I don’t get it. Is it just that the local public university doesn’t offer classes as frequently in the evening, so you’d have to spread it out longer?
For-profit schools, like Univ of Phoenix, DeVry, ITT Tech, Strayer, etc. market themselves to seem like they take less time than state university would, but that is actually never the case, and just intentionally misleading advertising. I’m not saying that’s what happened with you, but I just wanted to put that out there.
Thanks for sharing. What will you be getting your degree in?
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WOw, that’s a great story! Who say college is not affordable? Thanks for sharing this and good luck! It’s going to be tough to juggle everything, but you’ll get through it!
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