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	<title>Comments on: Reader Story: Estate Planning &#8211; The First Month</title>
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		<title>By: Kevin+M</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2011/07/24/reader-story-estate-planning-the-first-month/comment-page-1/#comment-1609692</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin+M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 19:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good advice, the first month is going to be the most stressful, why not make it as easy for your loved ones as possible? I&#039;ve written down a to-do list for my wife if something should happen to me - how to access money, what bills are auto-paid, which ones need a check, passwords, etc. but it&#039;s probably time for a review.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good advice, the first month is going to be the most stressful, why not make it as easy for your loved ones as possible? I&#8217;ve written down a to-do list for my wife if something should happen to me &#8211; how to access money, what bills are auto-paid, which ones need a check, passwords, etc. but it&#8217;s probably time for a review.</p>
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		<title>By: Maria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 18:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good luck with it!!  My husband and I completed our estate planning and we are still finishing up loose ends.  We created a living revocable trust and put the house in it.  All our accounts (ie life insurance and investment accounts) list the trust as contingent beneficiary.  This may not seem like much, but it&#039;s not as simple as making a phone call.    

It was a lot of work.  We use 1Password as well.  Great app!  We also have every bit of information saved in a program called Emergency Records.  This application tracks every little financial and nonfinancial detail of your life.  We exported the information and put it in our safe as well as our safe deposit box.  

But we now have peace of mind and that&#039;s what matters.  And once you get through it all, you will have the same peace of mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good luck with it!!  My husband and I completed our estate planning and we are still finishing up loose ends.  We created a living revocable trust and put the house in it.  All our accounts (ie life insurance and investment accounts) list the trust as contingent beneficiary.  This may not seem like much, but it&#8217;s not as simple as making a phone call.    </p>
<p>It was a lot of work.  We use 1Password as well.  Great app!  We also have every bit of information saved in a program called Emergency Records.  This application tracks every little financial and nonfinancial detail of your life.  We exported the information and put it in our safe as well as our safe deposit box.  </p>
<p>But we now have peace of mind and that&#8217;s what matters.  And once you get through it all, you will have the same peace of mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Desertstella</title>
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		<dc:creator>Desertstella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 20:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for this article...
My mom unexpectedly passed away, also, just 2 months after revising the trust which had been written when my brother and I were both minors, to give us access. About the same time, she showed me where she kept cash... even though there was about $5,000 on hand, it did not help with the paying of her cremation and memorial service. So, I definitely urge all readers to follow your advice. 
My condolences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this article&#8230;<br />
My mom unexpectedly passed away, also, just 2 months after revising the trust which had been written when my brother and I were both minors, to give us access. About the same time, she showed me where she kept cash&#8230; even though there was about $5,000 on hand, it did not help with the paying of her cremation and memorial service. So, I definitely urge all readers to follow your advice.<br />
My condolences.</p>
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		<title>By: Carol in Mpls</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carol in Mpls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 17:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Based on our experience (in the US), all insurance is not automatically canceled.

When my father stopped driving, we kept the car insured until we decided what to do with it. Only after it was sold and the title transferred did we cancel the policy. Same with the house, once sold and in possession of the new owners, we canceled the policy. Both were with USAA, and they refunded the balance on the premium paid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Based on our experience (in the US), all insurance is not automatically canceled.</p>
<p>When my father stopped driving, we kept the car insured until we decided what to do with it. Only after it was sold and the title transferred did we cancel the policy. Same with the house, once sold and in possession of the new owners, we canceled the policy. Both were with USAA, and they refunded the balance on the premium paid.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 17:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very important topic, I believe sound estate planning is a large reason for the gap between the poor and the rich.

Sounds to me like an amazing business idea if it could be priced right with a decent level of knowledge on the subject.

I know that CPAs and lawyers can do this for you, but I also know what they charge and for most that amount is not reasonable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very important topic, I believe sound estate planning is a large reason for the gap between the poor and the rich.</p>
<p>Sounds to me like an amazing business idea if it could be priced right with a decent level of knowledge on the subject.</p>
<p>I know that CPAs and lawyers can do this for you, but I also know what they charge and for most that amount is not reasonable.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph mwangi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph mwangi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 16:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Totally agree - every individual especially ones with a family should have a living will regardless of assets or networth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally agree &#8211; every individual especially ones with a family should have a living will regardless of assets or networth.</p>
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		<title>By: Chip Chinery</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chip Chinery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 15:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please do not assume that your family will be able to handle the after-death paperwork.  Some simply do not have the mind for it.  I don&#039;t know about your situation, but my kin are not up to the task.  I have a Living Trust, POAs and more.  I appointed my buddy, who is of the same financial freakish mind, my Executor.  I&#039;ve also suggested they pay him for his work which he&#039;d happily do for free, with frequent flyer miles (worth thousands)- if nothing else.

Here is a video about how having paperwork together saved my family $14,000 when my dad died earlier this year. 

http://www.chipsmoneytips.com/2011/05/avoiding-the-p-word/

- Chip</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please do not assume that your family will be able to handle the after-death paperwork.  Some simply do not have the mind for it.  I don&#8217;t know about your situation, but my kin are not up to the task.  I have a Living Trust, POAs and more.  I appointed my buddy, who is of the same financial freakish mind, my Executor.  I&#8217;ve also suggested they pay him for his work which he&#8217;d happily do for free, with frequent flyer miles (worth thousands)- if nothing else.</p>
<p>Here is a video about how having paperwork together saved my family $14,000 when my dad died earlier this year. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.chipsmoneytips.com/2011/05/avoiding-the-p-word/" rel="nofollow">http://www.chipsmoneytips.com/2011/05/avoiding-the-p-word/</a></p>
<p>- Chip</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 14:19:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Power of Attorney expires with the death of the person giving it. It is only meant to allow someone to take care of financial matters while another is incapacitated, but not deceased. You need a Will and an Executor to take care of business once deceased, if there is no joint owner of the accounts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Power of Attorney expires with the death of the person giving it. It is only meant to allow someone to take care of financial matters while another is incapacitated, but not deceased. You need a Will and an Executor to take care of business once deceased, if there is no joint owner of the accounts.</p>
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		<title>By: T</title>
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		<dc:creator>T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 13:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My husband and I are in our early/mid 30s, and last month he had a stroke. 
It is important that everyong remember that &quot;estate&quot; planning should also include planning for temporary or permanent disability as well--and that it can happen to anyone, at any age (he has no family history and was completely healthy before this, so we had no warning whatsoever). 

We always had separate finances--until now. We weren&#039;t even joint account holders on our bank accounts, and believe me that posed some major problems for me while he was still in the ICU. 

Also, we never kept track on one another&#039;s passwords--until now.

And we never had power of attorney or any other legal documents. Still working on some of those, but this was a hard lesson to learn that you could need them at any age.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My husband and I are in our early/mid 30s, and last month he had a stroke.<br />
It is important that everyong remember that &#8220;estate&#8221; planning should also include planning for temporary or permanent disability as well&#8211;and that it can happen to anyone, at any age (he has no family history and was completely healthy before this, so we had no warning whatsoever). </p>
<p>We always had separate finances&#8211;until now. We weren&#8217;t even joint account holders on our bank accounts, and believe me that posed some major problems for me while he was still in the ICU. </p>
<p>Also, we never kept track on one another&#8217;s passwords&#8211;until now.</p>
<p>And we never had power of attorney or any other legal documents. Still working on some of those, but this was a hard lesson to learn that you could need them at any age.</p>
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		<title>By: Joless</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 09:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing I always warn people to be aware of, is that when someone dies, their car insurance will automatically cancel. This means, in theory, you shouldn&#039;t even drive their car home from the hospital. 

Plus, all bank accounts will be frozen, in the UK anyway, so things can be very tricky. 

I need to make a &#039;hit by a bus&#039; file so this is a good timely reminder!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing I always warn people to be aware of, is that when someone dies, their car insurance will automatically cancel. This means, in theory, you shouldn&#8217;t even drive their car home from the hospital. </p>
<p>Plus, all bank accounts will be frozen, in the UK anyway, so things can be very tricky. </p>
<p>I need to make a &#8216;hit by a bus&#8217; file so this is a good timely reminder!</p>
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		<title>By: Carol in Mpls</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carol in Mpls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 05:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very good post Jeffrey, and good luck as you work your way through the process.

I feel like I’ve been in this spot for the past 20 years, but in a good way. My parents set up a trust, and every year at Xmas my mother would send my brother and me down to our father’s office for the “annual review” of their estate, as we are the ultimate beneficiaries. In the beginning I did not pay as much attention to some of these more critical details that others here have mentioned, but that has ramped up considerably now. It was key that it was all out in the open, no secrets. They even prepaid their funerals and had the headstones in place.

My mother died 7 years ago, so it’s just been my father in charge. About 3-4 years ago we started to notice a few things that were off, and he had been very diligent for so long. The aging process was stepping into play (he’s now 95, so that wasn’t unexpected, just surprising). We knew (mostly) what to be on the watch for, but had a few unusual scenarios to deal with.

In 2009 he had a series of 4 falls and hospitalizations that led me to be with him about 2 weeks each time over the course of the year. Basically the process of making sure his finances were under control fell to me. I even reorganized the file cabinets so I could work with them my way (he had a very odd and cumbersome file organization system). He’s now been in assisted living for over a year, and it’s been a great relief for all of us. I also spent a good chunk of last summer getting the house ready to sell, then it sold in 2 weeks, then getting it cleared out for good. All of this was heavy on time and emotion.

I’ll echo what some others have said about what to do. Most folks should probably have the ‘Letter of Final Instructions’ – I feel like we’ve talked about it so much, and I’ve spent hours and hours inside his files that we are in good shape. Here are some things we’ve dealt with:
* Long term care insurance – my father has it, so it does ease the cost of his assisted living, with nominal out-of-pocket expense; I’m glad we have it, but his insurance company has really made us jump through hoops to get it figured out when we needed to use it; it’s still a cumbersome process – thankfully, my brother does most of this work, I do a little of the banking, and my father doesn’t have to deal with either.
* Chat about the funeral service wishes and kind of info desired in the notices; this was easy to do for my mother, but I feel like my father wants it different, so we’ll talk about it.
* Death certificate – get multiple copies, as they’ll be needed by various sources and some need the original.
* Bank accounts – make sure all parties who need to be are signors on the account; also, set up the online account to monitor payments, etc. My father doesn’t use a computer, but we can keep an eye on things this way.
* Credit cards &amp; utility accounts – again, figure out who needs to be a signor or approved to be on the account (you aren’t financially responsible, just allowed to discuss the account and take action) (note: we had trouble closing a utility account, even though the house had been sold, as we were not ‘on the account’ – we are now for all his new ones just to be safe)
* Trust documents (or wills) – know where these docs are, and make sure to have a full set of all SIGNED documents (that’s what I’m doing next weekend, as there are a zillion unsigned sets, but we need the real thing to take any future action); this would also include any POAs for financial, medical, etc. Keep a copy of the POA for yourself, as you may need to fax it somewhere to show you have permission to act. Know what attorney to contact, if necessary.
* Tax returns – check that full copies are on file, ready to use; contact accountant/CPA/IRS for what to do for next year’s return.
* Benefits received – contact Social Security, military, insurance companies, anyone that makes payments; some will stop immediately on death, and others are connected to a final payout.
* Insurance companies – notify for any benefits to be paid on death, and to whom.
* Housing &amp; utilities – find out the deadline for moving out of an apartment or assisted living; you may have to pay a month out of pocket.
* Newspaper &amp; magazine subscriptions - get it transferred to another person to receive, or arrange for a refund if prepaid.

Sorry if I rambled too much, as this stuff is really fresh with me right now. If it sounds like a part-time job, it kind of is, but I’m mindful that my parents raised me, and that I can set aside some aspects of my current life, and help my father in his twilight years. The upside has been spending more quality time together and that’s been good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good post Jeffrey, and good luck as you work your way through the process.</p>
<p>I feel like I’ve been in this spot for the past 20 years, but in a good way. My parents set up a trust, and every year at Xmas my mother would send my brother and me down to our father’s office for the “annual review” of their estate, as we are the ultimate beneficiaries. In the beginning I did not pay as much attention to some of these more critical details that others here have mentioned, but that has ramped up considerably now. It was key that it was all out in the open, no secrets. They even prepaid their funerals and had the headstones in place.</p>
<p>My mother died 7 years ago, so it’s just been my father in charge. About 3-4 years ago we started to notice a few things that were off, and he had been very diligent for so long. The aging process was stepping into play (he’s now 95, so that wasn’t unexpected, just surprising). We knew (mostly) what to be on the watch for, but had a few unusual scenarios to deal with.</p>
<p>In 2009 he had a series of 4 falls and hospitalizations that led me to be with him about 2 weeks each time over the course of the year. Basically the process of making sure his finances were under control fell to me. I even reorganized the file cabinets so I could work with them my way (he had a very odd and cumbersome file organization system). He’s now been in assisted living for over a year, and it’s been a great relief for all of us. I also spent a good chunk of last summer getting the house ready to sell, then it sold in 2 weeks, then getting it cleared out for good. All of this was heavy on time and emotion.</p>
<p>I’ll echo what some others have said about what to do. Most folks should probably have the ‘Letter of Final Instructions’ – I feel like we’ve talked about it so much, and I’ve spent hours and hours inside his files that we are in good shape. Here are some things we’ve dealt with:<br />
* Long term care insurance – my father has it, so it does ease the cost of his assisted living, with nominal out-of-pocket expense; I’m glad we have it, but his insurance company has really made us jump through hoops to get it figured out when we needed to use it; it’s still a cumbersome process – thankfully, my brother does most of this work, I do a little of the banking, and my father doesn’t have to deal with either.<br />
* Chat about the funeral service wishes and kind of info desired in the notices; this was easy to do for my mother, but I feel like my father wants it different, so we’ll talk about it.<br />
* Death certificate – get multiple copies, as they’ll be needed by various sources and some need the original.<br />
* Bank accounts – make sure all parties who need to be are signors on the account; also, set up the online account to monitor payments, etc. My father doesn’t use a computer, but we can keep an eye on things this way.<br />
* Credit cards &amp; utility accounts – again, figure out who needs to be a signor or approved to be on the account (you aren’t financially responsible, just allowed to discuss the account and take action) (note: we had trouble closing a utility account, even though the house had been sold, as we were not ‘on the account’ – we are now for all his new ones just to be safe)<br />
* Trust documents (or wills) – know where these docs are, and make sure to have a full set of all SIGNED documents (that’s what I’m doing next weekend, as there are a zillion unsigned sets, but we need the real thing to take any future action); this would also include any POAs for financial, medical, etc. Keep a copy of the POA for yourself, as you may need to fax it somewhere to show you have permission to act. Know what attorney to contact, if necessary.<br />
* Tax returns – check that full copies are on file, ready to use; contact accountant/CPA/IRS for what to do for next year’s return.<br />
* Benefits received – contact Social Security, military, insurance companies, anyone that makes payments; some will stop immediately on death, and others are connected to a final payout.<br />
* Insurance companies – notify for any benefits to be paid on death, and to whom.<br />
* Housing &amp; utilities – find out the deadline for moving out of an apartment or assisted living; you may have to pay a month out of pocket.<br />
* Newspaper &amp; magazine subscriptions &#8211; get it transferred to another person to receive, or arrange for a refund if prepaid.</p>
<p>Sorry if I rambled too much, as this stuff is really fresh with me right now. If it sounds like a part-time job, it kind of is, but I’m mindful that my parents raised me, and that I can set aside some aspects of my current life, and help my father in his twilight years. The upside has been spending more quality time together and that’s been good.</p>
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		<title>By: PB</title>
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		<dc:creator>PB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 02:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is my situation exactly.  My husband is happy if he has money for coffee, books, and music, and after that really doesn&#039;t care.  I come from a long line of economists and entrepreneurs (and hard-headed women) and enjoy doing the finances, so it works out well.

We have been doing some heavy-duty retirement planning this year, and he is actually interested in that, because he wants to retire soon.  But he still fell asleep (defense mechanism of choice) in the banker&#039;s office.  Oh well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is my situation exactly.  My husband is happy if he has money for coffee, books, and music, and after that really doesn&#8217;t care.  I come from a long line of economists and entrepreneurs (and hard-headed women) and enjoy doing the finances, so it works out well.</p>
<p>We have been doing some heavy-duty retirement planning this year, and he is actually interested in that, because he wants to retire soon.  But he still fell asleep (defense mechanism of choice) in the banker&#8217;s office.  Oh well.</p>
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		<title>By: jnwcmr</title>
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		<dc:creator>jnwcmr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 02:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post. I have a &quot;Letter of Instruction&quot; that I update annually. It contains info on all our financial accounts, insurance, house/car info etc.

I use &quot;KeePass&quot; for password management, and have pointers from the LoI to KeePass.

One thing I&#039;d like to see (possibly from contributions of the readers) is the other side of this story. Not what happens if *I* die, but what should I do if a loved one dies? Who to contact, places to look, etc.

For example, 
Notify the IRS
Notify the SSA (if a retiree, or disabled)
Notify the military (if current or ex)
Notify employer
Notify Insurance company
Notify Bank/Financial Institution (taking into account comment 16)
Notify Utilities

And in each case, find out if there is any benefit due the deceased, or their spouse/family. Find out which will require a certified death certificate.

I&#039;m sure there is much more; what does everyone think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post. I have a &#8220;Letter of Instruction&#8221; that I update annually. It contains info on all our financial accounts, insurance, house/car info etc.</p>
<p>I use &#8220;KeePass&#8221; for password management, and have pointers from the LoI to KeePass.</p>
<p>One thing I&#8217;d like to see (possibly from contributions of the readers) is the other side of this story. Not what happens if *I* die, but what should I do if a loved one dies? Who to contact, places to look, etc.</p>
<p>For example,<br />
Notify the IRS<br />
Notify the SSA (if a retiree, or disabled)<br />
Notify the military (if current or ex)<br />
Notify employer<br />
Notify Insurance company<br />
Notify Bank/Financial Institution (taking into account comment 16)<br />
Notify Utilities</p>
<p>And in each case, find out if there is any benefit due the deceased, or their spouse/family. Find out which will require a certified death certificate.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure there is much more; what does everyone think?</p>
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		<title>By: mom of five</title>
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		<dc:creator>mom of five</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2011 23:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I handle all our family&#039;s finances.    All of them, even to the point I make the selections in my husband&#039;s 401k.    I go over everything with him of course, but he really just does not want to be bothered and I enjoy it so it works out well.

All we&#039;ve got is a single sheet of paper with all our info which I update regularly.    He&#039;s more than capable of handling the finances in the event of my sudden death or incapacitation, he just doesn&#039;t enjoy it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I handle all our family&#8217;s finances.    All of them, even to the point I make the selections in my husband&#8217;s 401k.    I go over everything with him of course, but he really just does not want to be bothered and I enjoy it so it works out well.</p>
<p>All we&#8217;ve got is a single sheet of paper with all our info which I update regularly.    He&#8217;s more than capable of handling the finances in the event of my sudden death or incapacitation, he just doesn&#8217;t enjoy it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2011 23:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am sorry about your mom. 

My check register goes in the negative on occasion because I have an extra $1,000 that I pretend isn&#039;t there in case a deposit doesn&#039;t clear before I send out checks for bills, etc. Maybe she had a similar system? 

I thought that was an interesting comment about the frozen joint account. I would never have thought to withdraw money before informing the bank of the death, but that makes sense to me. How is the bank to know you didn&#039;t have a huge fight, and that while they are &quot;dead&quot; to you they actually might still be technically alive? Sadly, we all have to live with rules that are set for the worst case scenario.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sorry about your mom. </p>
<p>My check register goes in the negative on occasion because I have an extra $1,000 that I pretend isn&#8217;t there in case a deposit doesn&#8217;t clear before I send out checks for bills, etc. Maybe she had a similar system? </p>
<p>I thought that was an interesting comment about the frozen joint account. I would never have thought to withdraw money before informing the bank of the death, but that makes sense to me. How is the bank to know you didn&#8217;t have a huge fight, and that while they are &#8220;dead&#8221; to you they actually might still be technically alive? Sadly, we all have to live with rules that are set for the worst case scenario.</p>
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		<title>By: Samantha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Samantha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2011 21:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For anyone looking for a sample document, LifeHacker&#039;s got one up in Excel, PDF, etc:

http://lifehacker.com/5817021/in-case-of-emergency-how-to-organize-your-important-records-in-a-master-information-kit</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For anyone looking for a sample document, LifeHacker&#8217;s got one up in Excel, PDF, etc:</p>
<p><a href="http://lifehacker.com/5817021/in-case-of-emergency-how-to-organize-your-important-records-in-a-master-information-kit" rel="nofollow">http://lifehacker.com/5817021/in-case-of-emergency-how-to-organize-your-important-records-in-a-master-information-kit</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jaime B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jaime B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2011 19:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last December, my grandfather died. Even though he&#039;d been diagnosed years ago with dementia and even though his COPD and partial lung meant he didn&#039;t always get enough oxygen for clear thinking - he was in charge of my grandparents finances. Aside from some really poor investment decisions that decimated their finances over the years, it was not as much of a mess as it could have been. However, it was enough.

Your mention of the checkbook and automatic payments were so similar. My grandparents maintained 2 checkbooks that they seemed to never reconcile together. Grampy&#039;s checkbook, the one that paid the bills, was missing dates and check numbers - almost illegible as well. Still, it only took my grandmother, mom and me about an hour to get it figured out. He had a lot of accounts automatically drawing on the checking account, so it took a month or so to figure out where things were going. One funny incident was when I warned her their internet security was about to automatically renew - she forgot and thought it was an unauthorized charge, called her cc company and got a new card. Luckily, my grandmother is very frugal and was able to make it until everything was settled. 

For years we encouraged her to at least become familiar with what was going on, but she refused. Grampy&#039;s health took so many things away from him that she didn&#039;t want to infringe on his pride. While we were getting things sorted out, she told my Mom and I that we should not be willfully ignorant like she was. It made a tough time that much more difficult.

I&#039;ve started my own list for my folks, but i haven&#039;t completed it yet. Definitely something to complete sooner rather than later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last December, my grandfather died. Even though he&#8217;d been diagnosed years ago with dementia and even though his COPD and partial lung meant he didn&#8217;t always get enough oxygen for clear thinking &#8211; he was in charge of my grandparents finances. Aside from some really poor investment decisions that decimated their finances over the years, it was not as much of a mess as it could have been. However, it was enough.</p>
<p>Your mention of the checkbook and automatic payments were so similar. My grandparents maintained 2 checkbooks that they seemed to never reconcile together. Grampy&#8217;s checkbook, the one that paid the bills, was missing dates and check numbers &#8211; almost illegible as well. Still, it only took my grandmother, mom and me about an hour to get it figured out. He had a lot of accounts automatically drawing on the checking account, so it took a month or so to figure out where things were going. One funny incident was when I warned her their internet security was about to automatically renew &#8211; she forgot and thought it was an unauthorized charge, called her cc company and got a new card. Luckily, my grandmother is very frugal and was able to make it until everything was settled. </p>
<p>For years we encouraged her to at least become familiar with what was going on, but she refused. Grampy&#8217;s health took so many things away from him that she didn&#8217;t want to infringe on his pride. While we were getting things sorted out, she told my Mom and I that we should not be willfully ignorant like she was. It made a tough time that much more difficult.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve started my own list for my folks, but i haven&#8217;t completed it yet. Definitely something to complete sooner rather than later.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2011 19:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You must have not really had a joint account with right of surviorship if the bank froze the assets and needed proof of the will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You must have not really had a joint account with right of surviorship if the bank froze the assets and needed proof of the will.</p>
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		<title>By: PawPrint</title>
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		<dc:creator>PawPrint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2011 19:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m so sorry about your mother. Losing a parent is tough at any age.

When my father died, he had done estate planning and also prepaid his funeral home expenses (which were transferable to another state--important because we moved him a few years before he died). I&#039;d been paying his bills, but didn&#039;t realize until I went through some boxes that he had an outstanding credit card bill I didn&#039;t know about. I don&#039;t think I needed to pay it because it was several years old and probably charged off. But I felt obliged to do so. Remembering that and after reading this article, I just now updated all our account information and told my husband where to find it. Thank you for a great article. We do have a living revocable trust along with a will, which we did after finding out how easy everything was with my Dad&#039;s trust after he died.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m so sorry about your mother. Losing a parent is tough at any age.</p>
<p>When my father died, he had done estate planning and also prepaid his funeral home expenses (which were transferable to another state&#8211;important because we moved him a few years before he died). I&#8217;d been paying his bills, but didn&#8217;t realize until I went through some boxes that he had an outstanding credit card bill I didn&#8217;t know about. I don&#8217;t think I needed to pay it because it was several years old and probably charged off. But I felt obliged to do so. Remembering that and after reading this article, I just now updated all our account information and told my husband where to find it. Thank you for a great article. We do have a living revocable trust along with a will, which we did after finding out how easy everything was with my Dad&#8217;s trust after he died.</p>
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		<title>By: Annemarie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Annemarie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2011 19:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent information.

Another useful list (sorry if this was in story or comments and I missed it) is one of contacts, both IRL and online. My daughter prepared one for me and I one for her. There are a surprising number of people out there who would like to know if one of us died suddenly.

A great book is Jo Myers&#039; Good To Go. i came across it too late for dealing with my folks but for our own planning it&#039;s helpful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent information.</p>
<p>Another useful list (sorry if this was in story or comments and I missed it) is one of contacts, both IRL and online. My daughter prepared one for me and I one for her. There are a surprising number of people out there who would like to know if one of us died suddenly.</p>
<p>A great book is Jo Myers&#8217; Good To Go. i came across it too late for dealing with my folks but for our own planning it&#8217;s helpful.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2011 19:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A tale of two estates:
A friend&#039;s father &quot;D&quot; passed away suddenly this year at age 52. My father-in-law &quot;T&quot; passed away a few days later after his health had been failing for several years at age 63. &quot;D&quot; did not plan a single thing, even though he knew early heart attacks were common in his family. The family had a hard time paying for the funeral and he left them with practically nothing. He had cancelled his life insurance policy 18 months prior to increase his cash flow. It made a bad situation worse. 

On the other hand, &quot;T&quot; had been preparing his estate for 30 years. When his health started failing, he did everything he could to make sure his passing went smoothly for his family. He set up a family trust, named an executor, a power-of-attorney, and two medical powers-of-attorney. He made sure there was always an open dialogue with everyone so that they knew what his wishes were. His files were organized and clearly labeled. Accounts were detailed with account numbers and login information in an easy-to-access location. Basically, the best case scenario.

Both situations taught me a lot. I shared what I learned with my own parents. This was a great article and it reminds me that even though I&#039;m still young (26), there are even things I can do to prepare for any event.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A tale of two estates:<br />
A friend&#8217;s father &#8220;D&#8221; passed away suddenly this year at age 52. My father-in-law &#8220;T&#8221; passed away a few days later after his health had been failing for several years at age 63. &#8220;D&#8221; did not plan a single thing, even though he knew early heart attacks were common in his family. The family had a hard time paying for the funeral and he left them with practically nothing. He had cancelled his life insurance policy 18 months prior to increase his cash flow. It made a bad situation worse. </p>
<p>On the other hand, &#8220;T&#8221; had been preparing his estate for 30 years. When his health started failing, he did everything he could to make sure his passing went smoothly for his family. He set up a family trust, named an executor, a power-of-attorney, and two medical powers-of-attorney. He made sure there was always an open dialogue with everyone so that they knew what his wishes were. His files were organized and clearly labeled. Accounts were detailed with account numbers and login information in an easy-to-access location. Basically, the best case scenario.</p>
<p>Both situations taught me a lot. I shared what I learned with my own parents. This was a great article and it reminds me that even though I&#8217;m still young (26), there are even things I can do to prepare for any event.</p>
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		<title>By: slccom</title>
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		<dc:creator>slccom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2011 18:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First take out most of the money from the account; then tell the bank they are dead. My folks drummed this into me when I was a teenager. 

Just because you are young and have no assets is no reason to not have a will. You may die in an event where a large settlement goes to your estate, and you don&#039;t want someone else to say where it should go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First take out most of the money from the account; then tell the bank they are dead. My folks drummed this into me when I was a teenager. </p>
<p>Just because you are young and have no assets is no reason to not have a will. You may die in an event where a large settlement goes to your estate, and you don&#8217;t want someone else to say where it should go.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2011 18:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So even though you were joint on the accounts you couldn&#039;t access them?  Does this mean being joint account holders is useless?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So even though you were joint on the accounts you couldn&#8217;t access them?  Does this mean being joint account holders is useless?</p>
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		<title>By: Rosa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rosa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2011 16:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This year we made several accounts joint that had been individual accounts, because of the fear of having to wait for probate - they&#039;re still effectively separate, because we use them as we always have, but if one of us is ill or dies, the other one can access their accounts.

Thank you for the reminder about wills, though - ours need updating and I&#039;ve put off the appointment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This year we made several accounts joint that had been individual accounts, because of the fear of having to wait for probate &#8211; they&#8217;re still effectively separate, because we use them as we always have, but if one of us is ill or dies, the other one can access their accounts.</p>
<p>Thank you for the reminder about wills, though &#8211; ours need updating and I&#8217;ve put off the appointment.</p>
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		<title>By: Stan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2011 16:31:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for posting this...definitely gave me a lot to think about, and some items to add to my &quot;to-do&quot; list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for posting this&#8230;definitely gave me a lot to think about, and some items to add to my &#8220;to-do&#8221; list.</p>
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		<title>By: LS</title>
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		<dc:creator>LS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2011 16:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post, thanks.  I keep a spreadsheet with some text instructions, list of accounts, and then a link to LastPass which is similar to 1PassWord.   I need to update it and send it to my parents again.  If both my wife and I bite the bullet at the same time I don&#039;t want my family to have to deal with a financial archaeological dig on top of everything else.  I have a list for my wife as well, on who to call at work for insurance, etc.  Hoping to minimize the amount of cursing I receive after I&#039;m gone!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post, thanks.  I keep a spreadsheet with some text instructions, list of accounts, and then a link to LastPass which is similar to 1PassWord.   I need to update it and send it to my parents again.  If both my wife and I bite the bullet at the same time I don&#8217;t want my family to have to deal with a financial archaeological dig on top of everything else.  I have a list for my wife as well, on who to call at work for insurance, etc.  Hoping to minimize the amount of cursing I receive after I&#8217;m gone!</p>
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		<title>By: Loretta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Loretta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2011 15:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I cannot stress enough how important it is to have a large emergency fund if you are in this situation. I was my Dad&#039;s executrix, joint on the accounts, and his power of attorney. I thought that this would take care of everything, but I was very wrong. Because as soon as I notified the bank of his death, they froze all of the accounts. They did not release them until they had a copy of his death certificate and the will. In the meantime, bills still needed to be paid. Also, while the funeral home and other things will wait to be paid, not all will. The gravedigger demanded to be paid before he would dig, leaving me to find $980.00 the morning of the funeral. This forced me to use not only my meager emergency fund, but also the money I had set aside for my car insurance, so I drove around (very carefully!) uninsured, until I could pay myself back from the estate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cannot stress enough how important it is to have a large emergency fund if you are in this situation. I was my Dad&#8217;s executrix, joint on the accounts, and his power of attorney. I thought that this would take care of everything, but I was very wrong. Because as soon as I notified the bank of his death, they froze all of the accounts. They did not release them until they had a copy of his death certificate and the will. In the meantime, bills still needed to be paid. Also, while the funeral home and other things will wait to be paid, not all will. The gravedigger demanded to be paid before he would dig, leaving me to find $980.00 the morning of the funeral. This forced me to use not only my meager emergency fund, but also the money I had set aside for my car insurance, so I drove around (very carefully!) uninsured, until I could pay myself back from the estate.</p>
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		<title>By: Erin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2011 15:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for this post. I have been harassing my parents (in their 50&#039;s) to get a will done for years! I am forwarding this post to my mother pronto!

It also makes me realize that I need to document my own life, as I am a single homeowner and, if I were to pass unexpectedly, my parents might
have a hard time figuring out my life :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this post. I have been harassing my parents (in their 50&#8242;s) to get a will done for years! I am forwarding this post to my mother pronto!</p>
<p>It also makes me realize that I need to document my own life, as I am a single homeowner and, if I were to pass unexpectedly, my parents might<br />
have a hard time figuring out my life <img src='http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Melissa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2011 15:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for this post.  I will take over my mom&#039;s limited estate if something happens to her, and everything is disorganized.  I will forward this on to her.  It will give us great incentive to sit down together and work on this.  I am the financial honcho in our household, so I realize I also need to make these documents for my husband.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this post.  I will take over my mom&#8217;s limited estate if something happens to her, and everything is disorganized.  I will forward this on to her.  It will give us great incentive to sit down together and work on this.  I am the financial honcho in our household, so I realize I also need to make these documents for my husband.</p>
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		<title>By: NancyN</title>
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		<dc:creator>NancyN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2011 14:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A great article - thank you. Two additional ideas: 1) a spreadsheet works well to organize information. Include a section on sources of income as well as expenses. 2) Rather than adding a loved one as a joint account holder, it is safer to use your bank&#039;s own form to make them an authorized signer on your checking account. Thisvwaybifbthey get in trouble with a creditor your assays can&#039;t be attached.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A great article &#8211; thank you. Two additional ideas: 1) a spreadsheet works well to organize information. Include a section on sources of income as well as expenses. 2) Rather than adding a loved one as a joint account holder, it is safer to use your bank&#8217;s own form to make them an authorized signer on your checking account. Thisvwaybifbthey get in trouble with a creditor your assays can&#8217;t be attached.</p>
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