Spotify: The Future of Music Is Here — and You’ll Pay Less for It
Published on - July 28th, 2011 (by Sierra Black) This post is from staff writer Sierra Black. Sierra writes about frugality, sustainable living, and raising children at Childwild.com.
Europe’s hit music-listening service has finally launched in the United States. Spotify is here, and it’s already changed the way I listen to music. J.D. is a huge fan, too. I’m so excited about Spotify that I’m breaking my usual habit of not doing product reviews to write about it.
What is Spotify?
Spotify is a service that lets you listen to any song in the Spotify library — any time you want. It’s kind of like iTunes: You can search for what you want, set up playlists, sort by artist or album or genre. The difference is that instead of drawing only from your own music library, you have access to all of Spotify’s 15 million song library. J.D. likens it to a musical version of Netflix streaming, only with less hassle and better selection.
The biggest complaint I heard from people who’d tried it was that the music discovery features were seriously lacking. It was great for listening to exactly what you want, but if you want a music service to recommend new bands or stream a customized radio station for you, Spotify wasn’t it. They’ve now added an “Artist Radio” tab that includes a streaming radio station of similar artists for every artist in their library. This feature makes Spotify even more useful to someone like me, who doesn’t always know what they want to hear.
You can use Spotify for free, or you can pay for their premium subscription service. There are two tiers to the paid version:
- A $4.99 per month subscription that gives you an ad-free listening experience.
- A $9.99 premium subscription that comes with additional features like improved sound quality, access to mobile apps and offline use.
I’ve been using the free version and am perfectly satisfied with the sound quality. J.D. signed on for the premium service and says, “$120 a year seems like a bargain to me to have cloud-based access to all of my music at any time from any device, especially since that allows me to download songs for off-line listening.” He says he’s been using Spotify non-stop since it was released in the U.S. two weeks ago. For him, it’s almost completely replaced iTunes, Pandora, and SiriusXM.
Access Replaces Ownership
Spotify changes the approach to building a music library. Suddenly it’s no longer about ownership, but rather about access. The L.A. Times review of Spotify sums it up this way:
With the arrival of Swedish-born, London-based cloud service Spotify on American shores July 14, along with the progress of Google Music, and the impending launch of Apple’s iCloud music service, this year will be remembered as the year in which keeping our own copies of music, be it physically on CDs and LPs, or digitally as MP3s on our hard drives, became a decision, not a necessity, for both casual fans and music obsessives.
Instead of buying each individual track or album, you can pay for access to a vast collection and then organize and share it as you choose. Or, if you’re a casual music listener like me, you don’t even need to pay for the service. The free version still allows you to make and share your own playlists, and to listen to playlists from your friends.
J.D. says that not owning the music is actually an advantage for him, since he’s in “owning less” mode. If owning your music collection is what matters to you, this isn’t the service for you. One friend I talked to, a former DJ, said he was concerned about what would happen if he lost access to the music collection he built up through Spotify. Say you used the service for four years, built all your playlists and favorites in it, and then something happened and it was unavailable. That’d be a major loss. He’d rather keep buying his music and retain control. Spotify does let you export and share playlists, though, which seems to address that concern. If they went out of business or changed their service in a way that made it unusable to me, I think I’d be able to port my playlists and personal library out to whatever new service I was using.
I think the hype around this service is well-placed: For most of us, some kind of subscription-based access to music collections will probably replace ownership of individual albums and MP3s.
Other Options
Of course, Spotify isn’t the only music-listening service out there. I’ve most frequently seen it compared (not always favorably) to Rdio and Grooveshark. Both offer users the ability to make playlists and search a vast library of music, though neither has as extensive a collection as Spotify. While Spotify provides its own music library, the Grooveshark music library is entirely user-generated. The two services seem to have different gaps in their collections because of this.
There are also cloud storage music systems like Amazon Cloud Player and the emerging Google Music, which let you store your own music library on the web. You’re still buying all your music though, instead of subscribing to access a larger collection.
Where The Party Is – Third Party Apps And Sites
Then I found Spotify’s list of web resources, and it’s awesome power was revealed to me. While the Spotify app doesn’t do everything I want it to, there are other websites and plug-ins that Spotify users have created that do all I want and more. There are websites where you can share and discover playlists, sites to automatically generate playlists, apps to create mashups between Spotify and Last FM…you name it. There’s a huge amount of creativity and ingenuity that has been poured into making Spotify work exactly the way you want. It just takes a little customization on your part.
Here are some of my favorite resources (all free):
- Sharemyplaylists.com: This is a huge collection of playlists from Spotify users all over the world. You can search for playlists by song, artist or genre. You can also connect with other users. There’s also a tab that lets you generate playlists based on an artist you like, kind of like the Genius button in iTunes or a radio station on Pandora.
- Lastify: A Last FM mashup that adds Last FM’s Love, Ban and Tag functions to Spotify. There’s also a search tool that lets you add a little Spotify link to any song in Last FM, letting you search it on Spotify and add it to your library if you want.
- Spotiseek: A web app that creates Spotify playlists based on music you like.
- There’s also a Spotify browser extension that lets you highlight any song or artist name in a website and search automatically for their music.
There are literally dozens of cool websites and apps to make Spotify do tricks. I’ve spent hours playing with them and barely scratched the surface.
If you’re curious what this new service can do, I strongly recommend checking out their web resources section and killing an evening trying out some of the different tools. I still wish the Spotify app itself were more robust and included more of iTunes features for organizing music, but now that I know I can make it do anything I want through these third-party tools, I’m totally hooked.
Getting Spotify
Right now, the free version of Spotify is invitation only, and they’re being fairly slow about sending the invites out. If you want to try it and don’t want to wait, you can sign up for one of their paid service tiers. If you’re a Klout user, you can try to become a Spotify ambassador and get instant access. Sign five of your friends up through Klout and they’ll throw in a free month of premium service. I didn’t go for that because I don’t like spamming my friends with free offers, but if you think your social network would like to know about Spotify, you could use that route and get a perk for telling them.
The bottom line is that Spotify just expanded the collection of music I have at my fingertips from the few thousand songs in my personal music library to the over 15 million songs in theirs. I’ve only been using it for a week, but it’s already clear to me that this permanently changes how I listen to and consume music. For me, the days of buying MP3s are basically over. I’ll be accessing on-demand cloud services rather than paying to construct my own library from here on out, just like I stopped buying DVDs years ago in favor of Netflix.
Why am I willing to pay $120/year for Spotify? Because I’ve been paying more than that for music through iTunes, etc. In theory (and only time will see if this is true), Spotify will save me money — plus, I find it more convenient.
Though I’m a fan of Spotify, it’s not for everyone. As Sierra says, if you need to own your music, give this a pass. But I’m trying to move my digital life to the Cloud. Music has been a big barrier to this. No more. At this very moment, I’m sitting at an internet cafe in Banff, Alberta, using a tiny MacBook Air to edit blog posts (stored on Dropbox) and listen to music on Spotify. It’s like I’m living in the future!
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Just be aware that the ads between songs on the free version are absolutely infuriating.
Living in Norway, I’ve had access to Spotify for the last three years. Every time I’m exposed to the free version, I’m amazed that the listener can tolerate the commercial interruptions. It’s seriously obnoxious. For this reason alone, I vastly prefer Grooveshark’s service.
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yea, grooveshark is the man
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I second Grooveshark!
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I have tried Spotify and I will say that, even though I hadn’t used Grooveshark a ton, I prefer Grooveshark. Having it in a browser is great and I just don’t like the idea of downloading a program on every computer I want to listen to music on.
Not sure how long Grooveshark will exist for, but for now that’s my pick.
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While I signed up and am waiting for a free Spotify invite, I already have trouble enjoying all the music I currently own. I’m a weird bird in that if I have “thinking” work to do, I can’t listen to music bc I’ll get caught up in the songs and lose focus on the task at hand. So I think paying for access to *more* songs would be a poor decision for me, lol. But I am interested in trying out the service, if only to use it as a screening system for potential iTunes purchases and for new, highly recommended artists.
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I’m the opposite. Music often helps me focus, especially if it’s “ambient” (or chill-out) music. Or classical. Somehow, music occupies a part of my brain that would otherwise be fidgeting, and lets the rest of my head do what it’s supposed to.
I absolutely cannot work with television or talk radio in the background, though. Utterly impossible. Kris likes to listen to NPR, and if I’m working at the kitchen table when she turns it on, everything collapses. I have to move to another room. Strange but true.
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Aren’t you lucky to have another room to move to. One of the benefits of a bigger house that we forget about. I love my small house but competing listening tastes is a real challenge seldom explored.
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How about using portable devices with headphones? Seems like that would solve the conflict easily.
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Music helps me focus too. I share an office with 3 other people. When one or two of them are on the phone or talking with each other my headphones save me from getting caught up in their conversations instead of my own work.
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Good overview, but I’m disappointed by its lack of balance. One of the critiques I’ve heard about Spotify is that artists and companies can decide not to offer their songs and when they do, you won’t have access to them anymore. Has anyone had this experience?
Business Insider had a good counter to the glowing review in this post here: http://www.businessinsider.com/why-im-not-going-near-spotify-2011-7
We can’t get Spotify in Canada yet, but I’d like to try it. However, if it’s anything like NetFlix or iTunes where the selection in Canada is poor compared to other countries, I certainly won’t pay for it!
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Beth, we’ve had exactly that “disappearing music” problem in the UK – and that’s why we don’t subscribe any more.
We subscribed for about five months and did enjoy the service – it introduced us to a few new bands and we went on to buy their albums – but when they and other bands’ catalogues started disappearing, it was very frustrating.
As someone else below says, the money artists make from Spotify plays is abysmal, which presumably why they were removing their work from it but also a good reason not to support it.
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This is like Rhapsody, right?
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EC: Yeah, it’s like Rhapsody, but I’ve found it has fewer of the songs and albums I like than Rhapsody does. For instance, Rhapsody has 8 Elliott Smith albums, Spotify has 3.
Spotify has some cool Social and Sharing tools but it lacks the Music Discovery tools (Music sorted by Genre, key artists by Genre, etc) that Rhapsody has, and they’re the same price monthly.
I like Spotify, but it doesn’t compete with Rhapsody on features or convenience at the moment.
I was a little surprised not to see Rhapsody in the comparison list in this article.
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Yes, it’s pretty similar to Rhapsody or other music subscription services. The interface is slightly better, and the price is lower, but for those of us who’ve been using Rhapsody for years, it’s not that much new.
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Here’s the situation where I use each type of service:
YouTube – when I have a specific song I want to hear.
Spotify (free version) – when I have a specific artist or album I want to check out.
iTunes – when there’s a specific album I want to listen to that I already own (I don’t buy music through iTunes).
Pandora – when I want to listen to music while I work, and I want “someone else” to do the picking for me. This is the vast majority of my music-listening time, and at $24 a year, it can’t be beat. It has also introduced me to many new artists, which I then check out on Spotify.
Currently no single service does it all for me. With better music exploration / automatic playlist construction, Spotify could possibly be my go-to source.
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Sounds like my book-buying habits
Sometimes I go to the library, sometimes I buy used, sometimes I buy new and sometimes I buy the e-book (or get an e-book from the libary!) Sometimes people give me books, and sometimes I swap. I’ve even listened to “books on tape” (well, MP3) on road trips.
It’s great to have options. I’d use Spotify, but I don’t think it would become my *only* source for music.
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But can you download songs to your Ipod?
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You can with one of the more expensive Spotify subscription options.
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The ads drive me nuts. The first time I used it, I got about 20 minutes of music and then it started. I got a song, 30 seconds of ads, a song, 60 seconds of ads, a song, 60 seconds of ads, a song and then another bleeping ad. I turned it off.
I tried a few days later and had the exact same experience. I’m not willing to spend that kind of money to eliminate ads, not when Pandora’s ads are far less intrusive in the free version.
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I mean no offense, but if you really love music and the people who make it, you should buy the album. The monetization of Spotify for artists is dreadful. Each play gives the artist $.00029.
For a really fascinating graphic on what artists received based on the medium, check out this page: http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/2010/how-much-do-music-artists-earn-online/
I will use the free spotify service to try an album out– but if I like it, I’m buying the album. I want to be sure the artist puts out another one.
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So glad you posted this here! This is an extremely important point to make! Musicians can’t afford to make good music without funding and time. If they’re forced to get a day job because services like this don’t pay them well, they’re not going to have the time to make much more music.
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What do you do if the band already broke up? Do you still buy it and hope the get back together?
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The graph is informative. It is interesting that a stream on Spotify only nets an artist .00029 cents versus .0022 cents on a service like Rhapsody or Pandora. To match the 9 cents an artist makes on iTunes or Amazon would take quite a while using either rate.
It is also interesting that Spotify compensates the artists the worst. out of every method listed.
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Does anyone know where I can donate a huge box of used CD’s
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Your library? Or maybe a school’s music teacher?
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How about the Goodwill in my town?
I still buy CDs.
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Sounds like something that is dependent on a bountiful bandwidth supply.
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Indeed, bandwidth caps seem to be getting more common, and I have no interest in using up bandwidth every time I want to listen to music. I’m pretty content with the library of music I actually own.
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Yes, bandwidth is an issue! Spotify wouldn’t have worked for me with our old DSL connection, which was spotty at best. With our new cable modem, though, I’m able to get the bandwidth I need. I’m cautious about streaming to my phone; instead, I download Spotify playlists (which I can do because i pay for the service) for offline listening.
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I’m happy with free Pandora, the actual radio (gasp!), and slowly growing my music library when Amazon hands out free credits for MP3s as the did a few weeks ago.
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I’m doing the exact same thing myself.
Pandora free version works quite nicely for me. Not many ads and they are not obnoxious.
The good old radio in the car is fine.
I’ve been getting freebies off Amazon too but I don’t often see bands I like. I do buy some MP3′s from Amazon on occasion for titles we particularly enjoy. Occasionally they have free promo codes for $1-2 free credit too.
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I don’t see the big deal with Spotify (and what’s up with it only being available in the U.S.? Help a Canuck out).
I’ve been using http://www.last.fm/ for a few years now. There’s a free month’s subscription and then it’s only $3/month. Plus, the recommendations it gives you for related music you might like is better than the iTunes genious.
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I think the oft-cited reason is that Spotify has a bigger library. So you may have to forego your northeast Mongolian hip-hop listening needs with last.fm.
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There’s some pretty obscure stuff on last.fm which leads me to believe the library is bigger. I can’t find exact numbers on the site, but I think they share whatever the users upload (scrobble) to the library, which they claim is 43 billion songs (i’m sure many duplicates).
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Us Canadians are always the last ones invited to the party. The Oatmeal says that we were denied access to Spotify because we gave the world Justin Beiber and Nickelback.
http://theoatmeal.com/comics/state_web_summer
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But you also gave the world k.d. lang–which was a huge, wonderful gift which ought to more than make up for everything else!
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I generally use Amazon to buy whatever songs I like. Pandora if I just want to listen without much work, otherwise my iPod. Thanks for the heads up though.
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Although Sierra gave a really positive review of Spotify, I found it really helpful because it provided so many details. That and the early comments tell me not to be in a big hurry to get on board.
Although I’ve been curious about Spotify for a while, I don’t think it’s a service that is made for me. The comments about the number of ads on the free version convinced me.
For now, I’m happy listening to internet radio broadcasts for the serendipity of discovering new artists. And Pandora is fine if I decide not to mind that the music genome isn’t very creative in dealing with people who create quirky playlists.
So thanks. I got enough information in this review to figure out where I want to spend my time.
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Interesting idea, I’ll check it out, but right now I’m happy using the (free) SiriusXM in my car,the free Pandora on my computer, the free iTunes, and the free playlist.com (not yet mentioned, but super nice option too).
Ads irritate me but thanks for the review, I’ll see what I think for myself.
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My music geek friends are loving Spotify & I can’t wait to start using it. I’m hoping to upload around 20gb of music to iCloud when it opens, so that I can keep my treasured musical archive available in the cloud, but for more present-tense music, the paid subscription to Spotify will totally satisfy my temporary need for Adele, etc..
Banff: Wild Flour bakery’s wifi leaks onto their outdoor seating area nicely – in case you haven’t found that yet. And the Bison – yumm, but not cheap. Best patio view in the world – The Wood, in Canmore.
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Very detailed review, but really, Spotify is so similar to Grooveshark (except Grooveshark is far superior being sans commercials at the free level).
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I started using Spotify (free) this weekend. Even though I still prefer to buy my music, Spotify allows me to fully preview an album before buying. This can help me from unwittingly buying a CD where I end up liking only 1 or 2 songs.
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I’ve been using Spotify on and off in the UK for a while on a free account. I find the ads annoying enough to only use it occasionally, but not so annoying that they put me off completely. Usually I use it to listen to a song/album that I don’t own but either want to check out prior to buying, or to listen to random songs that have got partly stuck in my head (you know – when you can only remember the first line and part of the chorus, and it’s driving you insane…)
Like a previous commenter, I don’t listen enough to my own music for it to be worth paying for spotify, but I can see why it’s right for some.
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While I do think such services are nice when all you use is the free offerings, I find it unfortunate that you would recommend the pay-for service. As a personal finance writer, you should know the value of owning something (such as CD) is almost always greater than constantly paying a rental fee.
Cloud-based services condition people to think that not owning things is no big deal. That doesn’t sound like a sound financial strategy to me.
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I could not disagree with you more Tony! Sorry but being a personal finance writer has absolutely nothing to do owning stuff vs. renting stuff. Didn’t you see the comment JD made about it most likely saving him money? Personally I spend 3 days trying to figure iTunes out and configuring my library etc. Then I cracked open my invite to Google Music. I was so annoyed and frustrated – it was wasting tons of my previous time and energy. I am glad to see there is a service like this that I can pay on demand. Do you have Netflix Tony? If you haven’t experienced the joy of the cloud on demand media services – I actually feel kinda sorry for you
Cheers!
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Hmm. That sarcasm was a little uncalled for. I can see Tony’s point — for some people, buying is a better option than renting. I seldom buy movies, but when I do they’re ones I watch over and over again. It’s cheaper for me to buy them (usually on sale or previously viewed) than rent them or pay for an on demand service (not to mention the bandwidth!) for the privilege of watching them whenever I want. I don’t need a steady stream of new music or video. (That’s not a critique on anyone else, it’s just something I’ve thought about in terms of my budget.)
Now, when there’s an on demand service for books in Canada, that would be a pretty sweet deal for me! (Alas, libraries do have limitations!)
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Er…. sorry Tony, but no, your generalization doesn’t hold water.
For example, I get a lot more value from subscribing to Netflix than from buying DVDs. Why do I want to pay $50 for a Criterion DVD I’ll only watch a couple of times?
Now take music– you can buy CDs for $20 at the store or $1 per track. Say your music subscription is $5 per month. That’s $60 per year– the equivalent of 3 CDs (3!!) or 60 individually purchased tracks. I don’t know how much music you listen to, but that’s an awfully limited selection per year, whereas the subscription lets you listen to millions of tracks.
Subscription services also allow you to expand your horizons– you don’t need to buy something to find out it’s utter crap, you can listen & play and try things out with nothing lost but the 5 minutes it took to play the thing.
Oh, I still love my vinyl records, they are great, I even buy new releases (a lot of indie labels offer vinyl– sometimes vinyl-only), but I’m under no illusion that records are some sort of great investment or a wise purchase of some sort of financial goldmine. They require care, time, and special equipment with consumables (stylus); and there’s a risk of loss or damage, plus the cost of real estate to store them. Enjoyable? yes. Wise investment? Hell no.
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I spend about $15-$20 a year on music. (I know this because I buy iTunes gift cards and it takes me forever to use them up!) I like a wide variety of music, but I seldom like songs enough that I need to own them.
OH. In which case, I’d be a perfect customer for Spotify, wouldn’t I? D’oh!
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Spotify at $5-10 per month could cost you up to 10 times more than you currently spend. Since you’re not big on music, I figure something mainstream like Pandora would keep things cheap for you while opening up your horizons a bit. I personally can’t stand the ads or the limited variability (they play only a few tracks from each band), but I’m weird that way.
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Alas, Pandora is no longer available outside the U.S. due to “licensing restrictions” – but thanks for the suggestion! (There are a couple of Beths commenting here — I’m the Canadian one!)
I had feeling like my hands are tied when it comes to digital media. If more stuff was available here, and we didn’t have bandwidth caps to deal with in my area, then I probably would purchase more media. Instead, I think I’ve trained myself to do without because it’s non-essential in my world
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Owning isn’t always better than renting. However, it’s a good rule of thumb to avoid recurring costs. E.g. rather than subscribe to spotify, buy a radio and listen to that. Instead of paying for cable, get rid of your TV and go read a book (from the library) or go for a walk.
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If you limit yourself to listening to a small number of albums, it would be cheaper to buy them than to use a service. But many of us want to listen to a wider variety of music.
A huge advantage, in my opinion, is that you have less stuff cluttering up your house. You pay for the space that physical media takes up. It also takes time to clean and organize it. This is from someone who is currently liquidating her family’s DVD collection in favor of Netflix.
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How does buying a song from iTunes or Amazon take up space?
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I was wondering that myself! Most of the music I’ve bought in recent years had been from iTunes. The “Stuff police” are welcome to stop by.
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I don’t understand why the Spotify infomercial instead of a fair comparison of the various online music services.
“The future is here!”–Yes, it’s been here a while, but where’s the best bang for my buck?
Something like this: http://thenextweb.com/apps/2011/07/14/showdown-spotify-vs-rdio-vs-grooveshark-vs-pandora/
But maybe more PF oriented?
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I’ve heard all the excitement for Spotify and I’m interested. However, I currently use Napster streaming services at $10 a month online and mobile. I’ve had (some version of)this for 6 years. Can someone explain the difference? What would I be gaining with Spotify?
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You’ve gotta love the future! I’m definitely going to try Spotify out! I love the idea of it for sure. Apple’s cloud idea is great, but having access to most songs at any point would be SO worth it.
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Maybe I’m paranoid, but moving everything to “the cloud” seems like a recipe for easy censorship/ political control sometime in the future.
Consider this: 2 years ago this month Amazon deleted copies of George Orwell’s “1984″ and “Animal Farm” from every Kindle that had purchased them. The issue was something about royalties and rights. There was a lot of bad publicity (especially given the irony of who the author was), and Amazon has promised not to do it again.
But–honestly-they have the power to delete anything on any Kindle anywhere. Similar, cloud-based services could delete every copy of any particular song, magazine article, political petition–anything that doesn’t please some nexus of power somewhere.
I for one do not trust the future benificence of either corporate America or political America enough to abdicate all ownership to some nebulous digital server.
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This seams unlikely here in America, but probably already happening in China with its internet firewalls.
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Poor microsoft, all this hype for spotify and no one mentions that they’ve been doing this subscription thing for YEARS with zune pass – although there isn’t a free version. I have it and I like it – its more money than spotify though (14/month?) which makes me wonder if they will drop their price or not.
Some little perks are:
It comes with ownership of 10 songs per month (as in you tell it 10 songs every month that you want to download DRM free and that is included in the cost of your subscription).
It can be shared between multiple mp3 players and computers too so my BF and I both have our players and computers running it for 15/month.
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Ditto for Rhapsody. I guess there is a such thing as entering the market too soon.
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Why no mention of turntable.fm?
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Sounds like a tenuous time for musicians.
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Canada, check out rdio. Its mobile app is vastly superior to Spotify’s. You can also use your rdio account in any browser, unlike Spotify which requires you to download software. This fact alone makes rdio much more versatile to people who work in offices with strict IT staff, or students who are constantly working on different work stations.
After a year of use, I’ve finally started taking advantage of the social features, through which I’ve collaborated on playlists with awesome people I met through the service, and discover an average of 50+ musicians / albums a month. None of the other services that I have used (Grooveshark, Pandora, YouTube, Spotify, torent) have returned nearly as much value per dollar spent as rdio.
True, their music library is a touch smaller than Spotify’s (9 million compared to 13), but that is rapidly changing.
Spotify may have the gee-wiz value right now, but in the long term I’m confident that rdio is the stronger service.
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To clarify my point above — I do use Netflix, and find it very handy. I don’t object to using a service to “screen” a purchase beforehand — I use Netflix so that I can watch a movie inexpensively before I decide to buy it on DVD. For that purpose it is perfect. But the same isn’t true here. If all one is looking to do is make sure they like an album before buying it, they can use the free version, or any number of free, ad-supported sites. This article was expressly suggesting that Spotify be used as a *replacement* for a physical media collection. That’s my objection. Sure, it would cost more to buy every possible song you want to listen to on CD. But if you are selective about your purchases, buying is a much better value long-term.
At $4.95 a month, that’s $594 over a ten year period. Buying used CD’s on Amazon typically costs less than $4.00 shipped — that’s 148 CDs. And when you stop paying for the service, you have NO music at all, or anything else to show for your money. But the CD’s you’ll have forever (even after the physcial medium fails, you can play your ripped copy from your PC / media players).
I completely see the value in streaming services for some purposes, but not as a replacement for physical goods.
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What we are discussing here are two different mentalities. I simply do NOT want to actually own any more Stuff than I have to. I do want access to media on demand when and where I want (at home, in my office, iPad, iTouch etc.). I could care less if I own the “physical good” as you mention. Actually I would prefer not to own it. That doesn’t mean you are wrong – you just value actually owning something.
Another example – I love going out on a boat during the summer time. However, owning and maintaining a boat is a VERY expense undertaking. Instead I have just made friends with a few other boat owners – taking a ride out with them the 2 times it fancies me a year. I typically buy gas and drinks etc. when we go out. In the future my wife and I will consider joining a boat club (boat on demand). It doesn’t bother me at all that I don’t own the boat
It’s just a different mentality. And hey if owning the music is important to you then go for it!!!!
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That’s the funny thing about digital media though. Owning something doesn’t have to take up space! The last few albums I bought were from iTunes — no physical CD. Likewise, most of my recent book purchases were e-books. As I mentioned before, I tend to only buy media that I’m going to enjoy repeatedly. A lot of my book purchases are books I repeatedly get out from the library.
I just find it funny that people don’t equate “digital stuff” with real “stuff”. I hate clutter on my computer as much as I do clutter in home
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I have been using Spotify for about a week and was a bit underwhelmed.
Now I have not really used it thouroughly but it seemed to not have the features that I liked.
I REALLY SUGGEST trying out MOG. (mog.com). I pay about $50 a year.
great new interface. Playlist that are sharable. I really like the news that then links to music. I can listen to whole albums or through a slider bar make it like Pandora.
I am really surprised that more people are not listening to MOG.
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Hmm, a little investigating indicates that the subscription-level bitrate goes up to 320 kbps, which Spotify says is the highest bitrate available from any streaming service. Does anyone know if this is true? I prefer to listen to lossless-quality music, which I’ve never found a better source for than a) CDs or b) piracy. If there’s a better alternative, I’d love to learn about it!
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We get most of our music for free on Internet Archives, but this isn’t for everyone; it depends what you like. We’re a couple of Deadheads though
, and it works great for us!
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Spotify is great. I just started using it a few days ago. I thought Rhapsody was a little weak to be honest. It seems like the Spotify folks have worked out some kinks!
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WHy do I have to pay if I can listen to Youtube all the time, any where…free!!
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I just subscribed to Spotify today, and I’m really enjoying it. It is compatible with AirPlay from my iPhone and sounds great on my speakers. In comparison to other services, I find the sound quality to be superior…also I don’t have to wait for each song to load like with other streaming services. I can save albums on my phone that I want to listen to offline. Tonight I played the albums through my car speakers using my phone and an FM transmitter. Cool!
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Isn’t there Napster available in the US? I subscribed to it years ago. It’s the best way of hearing new albums before I decide whether to buy it or not.
I’m quite sure they offer their service in the US too.
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A service that I haven’t seen mentioned in the comments is Jango. I’m listening to it right now. It’s free and commercial free listening. I don’t know how they do it. Oh wait, you do get emails here and there about a new release but I can definitely live with that. It’s good for a casual music listener. I couldn’t get last FM to work for me and Pandora is not accessible from Asia which is where I’m living right now. Found Jango by accident and I love it!
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Here in Finland we’ve had Spotify for some years now and I think everyone I know uses it, I know I have completely relied on it for couple of years now. I have it on my cellphone and laptop, and when I go over to friends, they usually have it installed also. A great tool for parties too.
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I had to comment on this one. Right now it seems like there is a war waging between the stuff police and the saving money police. I use itunes personally because its easy. I probably spend 25 evry one to two years. So I really can’t se how spending 5$ a month would be remotely to my advantage to essentially ‘rent’ music. I also noticethat yahoo music isn’t anywhere mentioned. I used to listent to the free version at work and its customization service/algorithms were awesoem! The more music you rated the better the music was that it played for you.
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I really dont see it as STUFF police v SAVINGS police. It is a SMALL price to pay to have essentially all music available to you. In my line of work it is invaluable. And I find it nice to constantly be given updates on new music.
Some people find value in paying .40cent more for fair trade bananas. Some don’t.
Wait till this same paradigm happens with film, kinda of already is with NETFLIX STREAMING. My Library of DVD’s is collecting dust. But Netflix I stopped cable and for $14 I get all the TV and MOVIES I can currently handle.
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One thing I’ve found reading and writing about money is that some people care about treating others (and the planet fairly) and some don’t. Everyone has their own line between saving money versus versus doing something unethical.
When you’re music is all in someone else’s hands, they have control not you. They can discontinue certain songs, the company could go bust, the company could change its rules, raises its rates, etc. I think this is as much about risk tolerance as it is anything else.
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I don’t understand the overall appeal of Spotify. I have about a thousand favorite songs I like to listen to over and over again. I add to that collection occasionally by using Starbucks Artist Spotlight, the iTunes free service of the week, and the occasionally iTunes gift card I receive. Further, I don’t like to be my own DJ. So, I prefer a service more like Pandora to discover music.
I also get music from the library. Friends give me occasional compilation CDs they’ve made to check out (yes, both methods are legal under Section 1008 of the copyright code).
Finally, I also like the concept of ownership better when it comes to music. Renting movies is fine. Moreover, Spotify is owned by the major labels who have been hoping to wean people from the idea of ownership and sell us on the idea of paying forever for music. Spotify also unfairly treats independent labels.
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Do a Google search, there are many articles from reputable sources explaining how 1) Spotify screws the artists, and 2) independent labels.
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Disappointed with Spotify – doesn’t offer as much as Rhapsody. Where are the radio channels, so that if I’m interested in a certain type of music I can quickly get it? Where are the charts, lists of most popular songs / albums in different music categories? Do I need plug-ins / add-ons to make experience worthwhile?
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Cost wise it doesn’t seam like Spotify could compare to Pandora’s services for US users.
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I keep seeing articles about how Spotify is the best thing since sliced bread, and was interested to see a review on here with this same sentiments. But I have to say I *still* don’t get it. Maybe I’m just not the target audience, or I just don’t consume music the same way or something.
I don’t buy that many music tracks; if I do, I either get individual songs from Amazon or buy a used CD for even less and rip it when it comes. If I’m looking to zone out and listen to background music, I’ll use any number of free Shoutcast streams or Pandora. If I want to discover something new, I’ll use those same methods. And if I want to listen to something specific, I look to purchase that specific thing somehow.
Spotify seems to mainly focus on that specific listening – but I have to work to go out and find what I want to listen to. I can’t listen on my phone unless I pay, when shoutcast or pandora both have that for free. And if I want to learn about something new, I’ve found that incredibly difficult with Spotify, too. I hear about shared playlists and whatnot but I don’t have any friends on Spotify yet and I don’t have way to invite others either. So I’m stuck having to work to discover new stuff. What’s the point?
All in all it seems like the core idea is that you no longer “own” the music, i.e., listen to it on your own terms. Instead you listen to it on Spotify’s terms, and in a severely limited manner, at least for the free version. And if I have to pay money, why wouldn’t I make smart buying decisions and actually purchase the tracks or albums?
It seems like even if I was “consuming” top 40 tracks all the time, or something with a lot of rotation, there are tons of streaming top 40 stations. And if I like a song enough to want to listen to it on demand over and over, I would buy it.
So yeah, I still don’t understand why I would want to use Spotify (free) over what is already out there…
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For those in buying mode, don’t forget about Amazon MP3. With its monthly $5 specials and frequent sales, it knocks the socks of of itunes. Too many people think itunes is their only option.
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JD – you use iTunes for audio books? You should check out Audible.com. In my experience it’s a much better deal – as long as your someone who consumes about 1 audiobook per month or more.
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