This guest post from Alice is part of the “reader stories” feature at Get Rich Slowly. Some stories contain general advice; others are examples of how a GRS reader achieved financial success — or failure. These stories feature folks from all levels of financial maturity and with all sorts of incomes.
Over the years on GRS, I’ve encountered a number of articles on the benefits of geographic arbitrage, which basically means making your money in a place with higher salaries and spending the money in a place with lower costs. Living in developing countries while you’ve made (or are still making) money in places like the United States or United Kingdom is a great example of this. And this is certainly a valid strategy for making your money go farther. But for a variety of reasons this system doesn’t work for a lot of people.
I’ve always lived and worked in the U.S., and that isn’t likely to change. But I’ve still been able to make geographic arbitrage work for me. I want to share how the average person can take advantage of this concept without having to travel the world.
The United States is a diverse country, and this includes diversity in pricing. The variation in the price of real estate in different areas is the example that most people are familiar with, but price diversity shows up in all kinds of things, including items that are much more transportable than real estate.
You can save money by traveling to a place where a given item is cheaper to buy, but time and travel costs need to be considered which may negate any savings. But because I travel regularly, usually by car, to visit family members (mine and spouse’s), I’m able to take advantage of pricing differences between my home area and theirs.
Though it may sound like it, I’m not exploiting overall cost of living differences in the sense that it’s generally cheaper to live in Tennessee than in California. This is an item-specific phenomenon, so it works for me when I visit family members, and it works for them (on different items) when they visit me. Below are some examples of how this has helped me save money.
A few years ago, when our early-nineties Ford was dying, and we had determined what we wanted to replace it with, we started shopping for a newer car. Via the magic of the internet, I quickly discovered that there were vast differences in the pricing between where I lived at the time and other locales that I traveled to. This applied to the specific car we were searching for; this wasn’t a function of the overall auto market.
I continued to watch pricing and availability in our home area, but also searched for our future car at locations along our route and at our destination whenever we traveled. After several months of searching, we located a car that met our requirements when we were visiting my spouse’s family. We saved nearly 25% off the cost compared to same car in our area. The small additional cost of driving the new-to-us car back home was more than offset by thousands of dollars in savings on the purchase price. A couple of years later, when we replaced our other car, we followed a similar approach and netted about a 10% savings, so the potential savings of this strategy can be variable.
Buying cars this way was definitely a big win, but we don’t buy vehicles very often. I use a similar system for smaller everyday purchases. Because we’re mostly traveling to visit family, we aren’t really “on vacation”, and neither are they. Instead we participate in daily life, with things like helping with projects around the house, harvesting the apples, cooking meals, etc. This gives me an opportunity to get an idea of pricing in the areas where family members live.
Over the years, I’ve:
- Saved around 30% on staple foods like flour by buying when I was visiting my parents.
- Saved money on new tires by going to a garage near my folks’ place; I got new tires plus installation and balancing for less than the cost of just tires where I lived.
- Saved 80% on the cost of stone countertop remnants when visiting my in-laws.
- Saved on a variety of grocery items by checking grocery stores for things on my “pantry list”.
- Saved at least 50% on high-quality sandpaper when visiting my brother.
- Saved on many more small things that add up over time, and bigger things that I can’t remember at the moment.
This is an eclectic list, and many of the items are targets of opportunity. I don’t necessarily do all of these things on every visit to everyone. But knowing the prices of things I want to buy allows me to take advantage of good prices wherever I happen to be.
For more irregular purchases like things for upgrades to our house, I keep a general list of things we would like to do (if the cost can be made sufficiently low) and all the measurements and other relevant information in a notebook. This helps avoid buying things that don’t work out.
From reading Get Rich Slowly over the years, I’ve learned about a variety of savings options that aren’t available where I live, and so don’t apply to me. That’s okay. I just file them away and keep them in mind when I am in other places for some other reason. I recognize that the strategy discussed above won’t work for everyone; carrying groceries on a plane is probably not cost effective!
As always, do what works for you.
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My father buys cars like this. He likes to travel a lot, especially road trips, and when it was time to get a new car, he’d leave in one car and come back in another.
With something heavy and relatively cheap like flour, I’d wonder about the transportation costs… how much additional is it costing in gas or (as noted in the article) baggage fees?
Telecommuting is another way to do geographic arbitrage. Or, as my late grandmother used to say, “retiring to Missouri on a California pension.”
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p.s. I don’t recommend getting auto repairs done in DH’s home town. I know it’s a heck of a lot cheaper, but it just isn’t worth the danger and future expense of fixing.
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How do you take into account opportunity cost or the cost of your time?
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she’s visiting family and technically would be going anyway…
Paying for the cost of haulin’ herself doesn’t change if she throws a 50lb bag of dog food in the back seat on the way back home.
I suppose, with a full truck load weight=gas considerations could be an issue. But I live in a “fashion capital” and haven’t bought basics like jeans here in years. It is much cheaper to stock up in Carolina on the annual family visits. The savings in average cost on jeans more than makes up for taking an extra suitcase home on the train. (Maybe not on a plane but I don’t fly as a matter of principal so it is a non-issue for me, personally.)
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Great post!
This strategy has worked well for me too. My parents live farther away from major cities than I do, so some things are cheaper where they live. However, living closer to a major city I can often find things they can’t buy in their town, or buy as cheaply. (We have family in the U.S. too, so cross border shopping happens on visits!)
I agree you have to do what works for you, but comparison shopping in difference cities where you happen to be anyway can pay off.
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I’ve done this as well. I live on the east coast in the tri-state area which has a high cost of living. Everything is cheaper where family lives in Maine – gas, food, lobster, cars, flour, etc.
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this arbitrage can easily become splurge, if you don’t think before buying. Otherwise this is good strategy.
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I do this when I travel to see family as well. My daughter lives near a place that sells a clothing line at half the price I can get it (when I can get it) here. It is the only time I actually buy clothing.
And…this one may seem way out of line…but I buy my fabric when I go to Hawaii. I love their cloth and colors and the price is wonderful. My sister in law jokes that it is an expensive fabric shopping experience.
We travel to Hawaii about once every four years . It is a place we save for and have found great places to stay. It is worth every penny—and all of my curtains and sheets are made of the fabrics I buy bringing me Hawaii every day!
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just had to reply…my mom’s name is Jane too!
My mom does this with me. I mentioned above that I stock up on jeans when down south but when mom comes to see me in Brooklyn, she stocks up on yarn!
She crafts a particular thing that takes a particular yarn and the best pricing she could get on the internet (no stores carry it in her area) was Turkey, or this one little outlet store deep in a Brooklyn neighborhood on the edge of Queens. The shipping costs actually made the Turkey yarn cheaper online but the outlet store had a much wider and better selection of color, thickness, sales, etc….then mom figured out that I know how to get to the neighborhood of the outlet store and that the er…Brooklynesque-ness of the place was perfectly safe.
Last trip we spent three hours in that store. Mom was in raptures and bought a year’s worth of yarn (they drive so transport isn’t an issue). Even took her picture with the sales staff in front of the building to prove to her knitting group that she had actually found this mythical place. It was a total hoot!
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I agree that if you’re going to be out that way anyway visiting family and such, you may as well make cost-saving purchases there, too.
When purchasing something big like a car, just make sure you thoroughly research things like taxes, too. Here in Chicago our taxes are well over 10% so it used to be common for people to go out to surrounding counties or states with lower taxes to buy a car. That loophole got closed, though. Now I can still go to NW Indiana to buy a car for less, but I’ll get sent a separate tax bill that I have to pay.
My mother lives close to the Indiana border and often buys her groceries there because they have no taxes on food, unlike Illinois.
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I agree – a car purchase should be researched thouroughly. I knew someone who’s parents (from California) bought a car in southern Oregon to save big money, but the rules were it had to be registered in Oregon for three months before bringing it back to CA, otherwise they would have to pay all sorts of extra taxes and excise fees.
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I’ve been looking into this myself. I travel from Boston to New Yrok fairly often, so as I’m looking at car prices and availability, it may make sense to buy a car down there on one of my trips. It’s amazing how different prices can be in different markets. I’ve even considered flying to a different state because the difference in price would easily offset the plane ticket, but used cars are so specific, I’d hate to spend $400 and find out I didn’t like how it drove.
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Have you ever heard of Carmax? It’s a national dealership that carries any brand. Their big schtick is that they don’t haggle, and they buy and sell.
I’ve never bought from them, but I’ve used their inventory to test drive several different cars I was interested in without having to go to a bunch of different dealerships. At the time, I was also interested in their business model but I found that their prices were comparable to local dealership’s prices and I knew a dealership would haggle so I could save more money there.
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This is a really helpful idea. When my kids were growing up, we routinely returned from family vacations lugging things like really cheap raisins or marked down socks. To this day, my travel souvenirs tend to be of this sort, and I remember my trips while cooking with local spices or putting on a marked-down sweater that I found on a trip.
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I do this too… I have friends in Boston and there’s no sales tax on clothing there (compared to 10% in Chicago where I live). I’ve also found our cat litter & food for 1/2 what we pay during trips to visit friends in Madison – you can bet I stock up!
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When I was a student living in a small college town I used to do this every month for a “stock up” on groceries, for weekly groceries the time commitment was to big, but once a month? It was good to go home and see family and friends.
The grocery prices in the town where I was living were crazy. Just milk and bread would be double what I would have to pay in the city where my parents lived, fruits and veggies were more.
The lower cost of groceries completely, plus extra, offset the gas and other useage costs of the 8hr round trip.
If I had extra money and needed to buy clothing or other items, the savings could be substantial.
And if I wanted to double up I’d offer a ride to the city to any other student who wanted to cover 1/2 the cost of gas
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Although we only travel (domestically) to another supposedly high cost state (NY), we are able to get bargains because of the unique competition in the New York City market. There are opportunities in our own (CA) high cost state as well. Outlet and discount stores in our area within 25 miles. You do not have to travel that far.
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I think most people do this already even if they don’t realize it: when they buy gasoline. If I see it cheaper when I am the road, I fill ‘er up.
We do periodically travel overseas, and for some things, if I keep it all under the return trip airplane luggage weight limit, we can stock up on simple items, clothing particularly.
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I live in Florida, near the Georgia border. Gas is always cheaper over there, even along the interstate. When I lived in Illinois on the Missouri line, I always bought my gas in Missouri, and saved at least 10 cents a gallon.
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We bought our Subaru in VT from my in laws mechanic. It was so much cheaper than anything we could get in our midatlantic area. I joke that it’s the official state car of VT since it seems like everyone drives one, but we had so many more options than buying something here. Well worth the train ticket there and drive back. We’ve also started picking up a few interesting local food items on trips like beer, jams, spices to put away for when we need a gift for someone. It’s not necessarily frugal, but better than rushing out to buy gifts and doesn’t contribute to clutter most of the time.
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You don’t need to do anything special to take advantage of geographic arbitrage, just let your nation outsource all its manufacturing to third world nations with low-paid workers. Cheap consumer goods thanks to geographic arbitrage.
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Cheap is not always the best solution. Just read the book “Cheap” and there are some good points raised. Mainly that discounting is not the savior it is made out to be. It may actually be more expensive in the long run.
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I live in the Kansas City metro area and, generally, the gas is cheaper on the Missouri side by $.05-.10/gallon. I don’t make a special trip for gas, but when I’m over there anyway I fill up.
A big geographic arbitrage time is Tax Free Weekend – Missouri has a tax free weekend every year for back to school stuff. Even if you don’t have a student, it’s a good time to buy clothes, computers, computer software (there’s a price limit for both comps and software that it’s applicable to), school supplies, etc. The state of Kansas does not do this, though towns are able to decide to do so if they wish.
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People who live in small towns learn to do this well. My uncle lives in a tiny tourist town, so whenever they’re going to the city for doctor’s appointments and such, they take advantage of the discount stores and lower prices there. My aunt used to live in Hawaii and fly Honolulu to Salt Lake in her route as a flight attendant. She was always picking up groceries in Utah since the cost is exorbitant in Hawaii.
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I don’t travel to see relatives much anymore so this is hard to do. But in some ways I do this a lot with non-urgent needs.
Like right now we need some new furniture but I just can’t find something I like at the right price. So I just keep looking whenever I am out or check circulars waiting for a good deal. The downside is I have a few empty rooms in my house.
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Living in Mpls, there are tons of car dealers. Have to say I’ve gotten the “women’s cold shoulder” as well, even when ready to write the check. Lots of marked up and added charges. Why am I supposed to pay the dealer cost for advertising?? Not how I decide to buy my vehicles.
I’ve bought all of my cars back in my Iowa hometown (3.5 hrs away), and for thousands less. Once I figured out what I wanted I’d have my father talk with the local dealer, get the details and then see if I was interested. Each time it’s worked out great. Visit for the weekend, and drive back in the new car.
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What a great idea! We do something similar on a much smaller scale when it comes to furniture and picture frames. We live overseas for work and move to a new place every few years. We’ve had bookcases and shelves custom made in places where supplies and labor are less expensive than if we were to purchase the ready-made item in the US. Ditto for frames for some artwork. Different country’s flea markets/second-hand or craft shops have also yielded good bargains on unique items – either decorative or every day use items.
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Nice article. It would be nice to know the places that you’ve found where vehicles tend to be priced more cheaply so one could target searches there.
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With sales tax in CA approaching 10% in some areas and 0% in Oregon, I wait and shop for major clothing purchases and high-end jewelry when we make a yearly trip to Portland for a conference. My ticket is purchased with points, so I don’t even have to factor in travel costs (:
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This can work especially well if you live near the US southern border. I’ve known people in SoCal who’ve traveled to Mexico for everything from prescription drugs (Though I’ll admit, I don’t know what the legal issues involved with filling prescriptions across the border are.) to building supplies (A friend put a new tile roof on his house for pennies on the dollar compared to the cost of materials stateside.), to dentistry.
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Don’t know if this is still true, but the near-the-border dynamic can work both ways. We were in San Diego a few years ago and visited the Ikea branch, there were a lot of cars with Baja California license plates in the parking lot!
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I do this all the time. I live in Montana, which has no sales tax. But groceries in my town are ridiculously expensive. I work in North Dakota (and I have a company vehicle, so I don’t have to spend gas to get there), where I can buy groceries for 20-50% less than they cost in Montana. Additionally, I can get most of the other items we use on a regular basis at Wal-Mart in North Dakota (there’s not a Wal-Mart where I live). Plus, the two states have an agreement where Montana residents don’t have to pay sales tax on purchases over $50 in North Dakota.
Not to mention, I bought my truck from another state where vehicles are cheaper, but you pay sales tax in the state where you register it, so I didn’t have to pay any tax on my vehicle either!
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Yes, I do this from time to time when visiting my parents in NY. They have this great grocery store that sells spices and herbs very inexpensively. So I buy enough to last me a year. My mother, on the other hand, found a store here, in NC, that sells the exact shoes she prefers to wear to work for much less than any store in her area. But my dad is the king of geographic arbitrage – he stocks up on cigarettes every time he visits me.
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I do this on a very small scale. I visit my mom weekly. Gas in her town is 10 to 20 cents cheaper than in my town, so I always try to time my fill-ups so they happen on my visits.
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I live in the Chicago area and earn money in the Milwaukee area: geographic arbitrage, doing it exactly backwards.
(We lived in Milwaukee on my one income and moved to Chicago area for my husband’s second income.) Sometime soon I hope to find work in the Chicago area to even things up again, as spouse is unlikely to find work in his field in Milwaukee. The best I can make of it at the moment is to buy higher quality beer and cheese etc. on work days in WI at lower prices.
Otherwise, living in Milwaukee and commuting to Chicago is financially a better deal.
Illinois residents are also supposed to report and pay the difference between lower sales tax rates paid on out-of-state purchases and what, for example, the Cook County sales tax would have been, which would negate that theoretical 5% discount.
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The entire country of the philippines does this. Overseas contract workers or migrant workers.
Someone works abroad and sends a portion of his or her salary back home. The salary can be 10-20x the equivalent back home coz the philippines is a third world country.
The reverse is also true. Lots of japanese, korean, american and other westerners retire in the philippines so they can live in relative luxury with their average retirement benefits. An average monthly retirement payment is a fortune in a third world country
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For cars I just found this amazing tool. I love that you can compare by ZIP code and you can compare new or used. Of course you need the amex card to actually get that price but I can’t see it being withheld from someone else who wants to buy. Really fun to play with if you like to watch car prices!
http://amexnetwork.zag.com/main.html
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