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	<title>Comments on: Reader Story: Winning the Lottery</title>
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		<title>By: ken</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2011/09/04/reader-story-winning-the-lottery/comment-page-2/#comment-3296755</link>
		<dc:creator>ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Mar 2013 19:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got an email on this thread and reread it.  80/20 was great in hindsight.  First, the market since 2011 has been good.  Second, it looks like you bought in 2009, not 2011!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got an email on this thread and reread it.  80/20 was great in hindsight.  First, the market since 2011 has been good.  Second, it looks like you bought in 2009, not 2011!</p>
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		<title>By: Won For Life</title>
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		<dc:creator>Won For Life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Mar 2013 17:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alas Mr monopoly, people in your position either become the main source of income for your friends/family/town and then everyone else ends up wealthy and you end up penniless.

Or

You call a halt to it and are then forced to lose most if not all of your friends and sometimes family and move away.

I think its sometimes better if you move away to create a space for your friends and family to be able to mentally handle it, its bad to leave a large house and then go back to your life but it is a gap.

In England people play the lottery al the time and yet a lot of people automatically hate winners, they have had their cars egged, scratched, windows smashed, etc.

The class system is so emotional that people hate the rich but play every draw to become rich without connecting the dots that if you win, you have now become the very people you hated and the friends you had that would take about the evil rich will either hate you or turn hypocrite and want some of your money to become rich.

Sometimes getting away from that is the best answer, even if it means your cutting loose some of your friends before they have a chance to cut you lose, live life on your terms, not theirs....that&#039;s what I did</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alas Mr monopoly, people in your position either become the main source of income for your friends/family/town and then everyone else ends up wealthy and you end up penniless.</p>
<p>Or</p>
<p>You call a halt to it and are then forced to lose most if not all of your friends and sometimes family and move away.</p>
<p>I think its sometimes better if you move away to create a space for your friends and family to be able to mentally handle it, its bad to leave a large house and then go back to your life but it is a gap.</p>
<p>In England people play the lottery al the time and yet a lot of people automatically hate winners, they have had their cars egged, scratched, windows smashed, etc.</p>
<p>The class system is so emotional that people hate the rich but play every draw to become rich without connecting the dots that if you win, you have now become the very people you hated and the friends you had that would take about the evil rich will either hate you or turn hypocrite and want some of your money to become rich.</p>
<p>Sometimes getting away from that is the best answer, even if it means your cutting loose some of your friends before they have a chance to cut you lose, live life on your terms, not theirs&#8230;.that&#8217;s what I did</p>
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		<title>By: Mr monopoly</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2011/09/04/reader-story-winning-the-lottery/comment-page-1/#comment-2865892</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr monopoly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 05:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think its kind of hard for poor people who won the lottery to manage that kind of money because all you have surround you are poor people who dire in need for money it completely different when a rich men win the lotto because he dont have  to deal with such headache because i have a $700 a week job all my family member and friends they find out when i get my paycheck they all keep call me and ask to borrow money and my friends they want me to fill up their car so it gonna be the same scenario  if i win the lotto one day. And i guarantee you i will never say no to them whatever they ask me so it much easier for a rich men who win the lotto to get richer because rich people dont give money so its easier for a poor person to loose it all</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think its kind of hard for poor people who won the lottery to manage that kind of money because all you have surround you are poor people who dire in need for money it completely different when a rich men win the lotto because he dont have  to deal with such headache because i have a $700 a week job all my family member and friends they find out when i get my paycheck they all keep call me and ask to borrow money and my friends they want me to fill up their car so it gonna be the same scenario  if i win the lotto one day. And i guarantee you i will never say no to them whatever they ask me so it much easier for a rich men who win the lotto to get richer because rich people dont give money so its easier for a poor person to loose it all</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2012 20:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah It was almost 20 years ago that I was talking with friends about dreams like this and did go to graduate school and I&#039;m now a professor.  It&#039;s worth talking about those dreams even when you never win</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah It was almost 20 years ago that I was talking with friends about dreams like this and did go to graduate school and I&#8217;m now a professor.  It&#8217;s worth talking about those dreams even when you never win</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2011/09/04/reader-story-winning-the-lottery/comment-page-1/#comment-1968852</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2011 05:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why doesn&#039;t anyone ever suggest a 30 yr old putting 1M into a money market bank account, withdrawing the 1% interest each year (10k), or so, and live below the poverty line for the next 60 years?  I think its a viable option!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why doesn&#8217;t anyone ever suggest a 30 yr old putting 1M into a money market bank account, withdrawing the 1% interest each year (10k), or so, and live below the poverty line for the next 60 years?  I think its a viable option!</p>
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		<title>By: *pol</title>
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		<dc:creator>*pol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2011 17:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maggie- I think &quot;the dream&quot; is a healthy exercise to dredge out the deep heartfelt dreams. Its so terrific that you are making it a reality with the education goals! 
I have my one ticket a week called entertainment too. Bad math or not, it&#039;s cheap fun as long as I keep it small.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maggie- I think &#8220;the dream&#8221; is a healthy exercise to dredge out the deep heartfelt dreams. Its so terrific that you are making it a reality with the education goals!<br />
I have my one ticket a week called entertainment too. Bad math or not, it&#8217;s cheap fun as long as I keep it small.</p>
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		<title>By: Kaylen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kaylen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2011 14:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s awesome to see a couple use their lottery winnings responsibly and not blow it all on a new yacht or something.

Great job you guys!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s awesome to see a couple use their lottery winnings responsibly and not blow it all on a new yacht or something.</p>
<p>Great job you guys!</p>
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		<title>By: Kaylen</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2011/09/04/reader-story-winning-the-lottery/comment-page-1/#comment-1859182</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaylen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2011 14:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My child does NOT attend a &quot;day orphanage&quot;.  He attends a preschool which he LOVES and provides him a far better education that I would have been able to provide him at home, by university-trained teachers who have advanced education degrees.

I pay for that privilege and because I work am able to pay for a LOT of other privileges for him that he would not otherwise be able to have - such as the two movies I bought him last week which he has been wanting to see and asking about for months.  Simple pleasures like that would not be possible if I did not work.  He also is able to have his own bedroom and live in a house in a decent neighborhood with a yard, which would not be possible if I did not work.

Annelise and Barb, you really need to check yourselves.  Perhaps my husband and I prefer to be able to care for ourselves financially our entire lives, and leave our son a nice inheritance.  Perhaps we would like to be able to pay for his college education in cash.  Perhaps we would prefer to pay off our mortgage before we retire, so our house can be passed on to our son worry-free when we die.  Perhaps we would like to provide our son with the best financially secure life we  can.

Guess what?  We live in America, and that is our right!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My child does NOT attend a &#8220;day orphanage&#8221;.  He attends a preschool which he LOVES and provides him a far better education that I would have been able to provide him at home, by university-trained teachers who have advanced education degrees.</p>
<p>I pay for that privilege and because I work am able to pay for a LOT of other privileges for him that he would not otherwise be able to have &#8211; such as the two movies I bought him last week which he has been wanting to see and asking about for months.  Simple pleasures like that would not be possible if I did not work.  He also is able to have his own bedroom and live in a house in a decent neighborhood with a yard, which would not be possible if I did not work.</p>
<p>Annelise and Barb, you really need to check yourselves.  Perhaps my husband and I prefer to be able to care for ourselves financially our entire lives, and leave our son a nice inheritance.  Perhaps we would like to be able to pay for his college education in cash.  Perhaps we would prefer to pay off our mortgage before we retire, so our house can be passed on to our son worry-free when we die.  Perhaps we would like to provide our son with the best financially secure life we  can.</p>
<p>Guess what?  We live in America, and that is our right!</p>
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		<title>By: Frankz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frankz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2011 22:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As someone else said, entirely too many people don&#039;t take everything into account when trying to say that somebody who won only $1 million should quit their job and retire.  Yes, &quot;only&quot; $1 million.   
They&#039;re only 30 years old, so they need all living expenses for both of them for about another 50 years.  That includes house, cars, clothing, food, household items, furniture, appliances, all the regular monthly utilities, medical care, health+life+car+home insurance, property tax, entertainment, and whatever other expenses you can think of.  And then all that again for at least 1 kid for at least 18 years, and then college for the kid.  And she said &quot;kids&quot; when she mentioned the college fund, so at least 2 kids.  And then you have to take 50 years worth of inflation into account for each and every one of the expenses I mentioned above.
I&#039;m not sure &quot;only&quot; $2 million would even be enough for all of that.

As for claiming a lottery prize anonymously, very very few states allow it to be completely anonymous.  Multi state lottery winners are governed by the state law where they live.  What few people don&#039;t realize, tho, is that by using a trust to claim it, the lottery is still not being claimed anonymously.  A trust is a legal entity by itself, with many of the same financial, legal, and tax obligations as a person, and even has a name and tax id.  The lottery is being claimed by a named legal entity, the trust.  The person is merely a beneficiary of the trust.  It makes a huge difference legally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone else said, entirely too many people don&#8217;t take everything into account when trying to say that somebody who won only $1 million should quit their job and retire.  Yes, &#8220;only&#8221; $1 million.<br />
They&#8217;re only 30 years old, so they need all living expenses for both of them for about another 50 years.  That includes house, cars, clothing, food, household items, furniture, appliances, all the regular monthly utilities, medical care, health+life+car+home insurance, property tax, entertainment, and whatever other expenses you can think of.  And then all that again for at least 1 kid for at least 18 years, and then college for the kid.  And she said &#8220;kids&#8221; when she mentioned the college fund, so at least 2 kids.  And then you have to take 50 years worth of inflation into account for each and every one of the expenses I mentioned above.<br />
I&#8217;m not sure &#8220;only&#8221; $2 million would even be enough for all of that.</p>
<p>As for claiming a lottery prize anonymously, very very few states allow it to be completely anonymous.  Multi state lottery winners are governed by the state law where they live.  What few people don&#8217;t realize, tho, is that by using a trust to claim it, the lottery is still not being claimed anonymously.  A trust is a legal entity by itself, with many of the same financial, legal, and tax obligations as a person, and even has a name and tax id.  The lottery is being claimed by a named legal entity, the trust.  The person is merely a beneficiary of the trust.  It makes a huge difference legally.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2011 18:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I think that comment may be a bit on the severe side, it caused me to ponder that term, &quot;millionaire&quot;. I believe the issue is that the term is so ingrained in Americans&#039; minds as meaning &quot;infinite money&quot; (whose growth outpaces expenditures) that they don&#039;t stop to think about its real current value - something just shy of infinite (depending on ones cost of living, of course). Today&#039;s billionaire is yesteryear&#039;s millionaire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I think that comment may be a bit on the severe side, it caused me to ponder that term, &#8220;millionaire&#8221;. I believe the issue is that the term is so ingrained in Americans&#8217; minds as meaning &#8220;infinite money&#8221; (whose growth outpaces expenditures) that they don&#8217;t stop to think about its real current value &#8211; something just shy of infinite (depending on ones cost of living, of course). Today&#8217;s billionaire is yesteryear&#8217;s millionaire.</p>
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		<title>By: kara</title>
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		<dc:creator>kara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2011 17:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All of the people who are criticizing the OP for not quitting working because they won $1 million are the very people who have no true understanding of the value of money and would probably piss the whole thing away in 3 years and be left with nothing.

Anyone who thinks a pair of 30 year olds with kids can quit working on $1 million is seriously clueless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All of the people who are criticizing the OP for not quitting working because they won $1 million are the very people who have no true understanding of the value of money and would probably piss the whole thing away in 3 years and be left with nothing.</p>
<p>Anyone who thinks a pair of 30 year olds with kids can quit working on $1 million is seriously clueless.</p>
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		<title>By: lk</title>
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		<dc:creator>lk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2011 02:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, if you&#039;re not working, you don&#039;t have employer-provided health insurance. You can either pay through the nose for it, or not carry it (and ultimately wipe everything out because of medical emergencies). 
In the same situation I would keep working. I might retire early (but not at 30). I might try to find a less-stressful (even if lower wage) job that would nevertheless have health insurance. At that point I&#039;d be comfortable enough that I could actually use my vacation time and go somewhere fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, if you&#8217;re not working, you don&#8217;t have employer-provided health insurance. You can either pay through the nose for it, or not carry it (and ultimately wipe everything out because of medical emergencies).<br />
In the same situation I would keep working. I might retire early (but not at 30). I might try to find a less-stressful (even if lower wage) job that would nevertheless have health insurance. At that point I&#8217;d be comfortable enough that I could actually use my vacation time and go somewhere fun.</p>
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		<title>By: moom</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2011/09/04/reader-story-winning-the-lottery/comment-page-1/#comment-1798022</link>
		<dc:creator>moom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Sep 2011 07:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One interesting thing about reading these comments is that the majority of people think about what would they do if they won the lottery - i.e. with their job, savings, cost of living, family etc. and then give advice or criticize on that basis...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One interesting thing about reading these comments is that the majority of people think about what would they do if they won the lottery &#8211; i.e. with their job, savings, cost of living, family etc. and then give advice or criticize on that basis&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Sep 2011 18:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely agree with you. Besides, while $40k is probably enough to get by on, especially with no mortgage (and with the caveat that you have enough saved that you can grow your investment base enough so that you could increase your withdrawals to match inflation), that is still tight enough that you&#039;d have to watch your spending the rest of your life and could not indulge much in travel or hobbies. Better to work just enough to keep increasing your principal, so that your retirement could be even more secure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree with you. Besides, while $40k is probably enough to get by on, especially with no mortgage (and with the caveat that you have enough saved that you can grow your investment base enough so that you could increase your withdrawals to match inflation), that is still tight enough that you&#8217;d have to watch your spending the rest of your life and could not indulge much in travel or hobbies. Better to work just enough to keep increasing your principal, so that your retirement could be even more secure.</p>
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		<title>By: Tina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Sep 2011 13:40:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that 4% safe withdrawal rule is only supposed to last 30 years.  With increasing life expectancy ages and kids to raise, I just don&#039;t feel comfortable completely retiring.  However, we don&#039;t plan on killing ourselves with long hours or overly stressful jobs, either:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that 4% safe withdrawal rule is only supposed to last 30 years.  With increasing life expectancy ages and kids to raise, I just don&#8217;t feel comfortable completely retiring.  However, we don&#8217;t plan on killing ourselves with long hours or overly stressful jobs, either:)</p>
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		<title>By: honeybee</title>
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		<dc:creator>honeybee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2011 20:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Odds of retaining head after winning lotto: 0.0001%. Nice job!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Odds of retaining head after winning lotto: 0.0001%. Nice job!!</p>
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		<title>By: phoenix</title>
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		<dc:creator>phoenix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2011 16:26:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are right--I should not have used  the word &quot;better&quot; because everybody is so different.  For my MIL, she had tons of experience in that business (a florirst) and loved it, was great in it, etc.  It&#039;s just now, she&#039;s managing a business rather than doing what she loves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are right&#8211;I should not have used  the word &#8220;better&#8221; because everybody is so different.  For my MIL, she had tons of experience in that business (a florirst) and loved it, was great in it, etc.  It&#8217;s just now, she&#8217;s managing a business rather than doing what she loves.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2011 23:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait... I thought Annalise was joking.  Taking an idea to the extreme and showing how foolish it is.  Am I wrong?  Day orphanages, quantity time being *so* much more important than quality?  I thought it was hilarious. There&#039;s no way that could be serious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait&#8230; I thought Annalise was joking.  Taking an idea to the extreme and showing how foolish it is.  Am I wrong?  Day orphanages, quantity time being *so* much more important than quality?  I thought it was hilarious. There&#8217;s no way that could be serious.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2011 20:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to disagree with this statement:

&quot;Middle class mentality&quot; seems to be the smarter choice in every way.

--in which you were suggesting that owning your own business is nothing but a losing proposition, and that having a &quot;regular&quot; job is better.

Yes, it sounds like your MIL is stuck in a bad situation with her business. But lots of entrepreneurs thrive on running their own businesses, and if the business is successful it can be a great lifestyle and money-making alternative. The trick is to design the business in ways that really fit your life, and not bury yourself in debt/ investment before you know whether it will work out, or whether you&#039;ll enjoy the work.  My husband and I own a small business that we&#039;ve carefully tailored to meet our needs, wherever possible. We make a fairly decent living (though this is a matter of perspective), and we have a pretty laid-back lifestyle.  Sure, we often have to do things we don&#039;t&#039; &quot;want&quot; to do-- but show me a regular job that doesn&#039;t require the same (even a job that you love).  Our business isn&#039;t as big or &quot;successful&quot; as it could be, because we prioritize our lifestyle/ flexibility over maximizing profits (and/or risk).

That being said, I do think it would be a terrible idea to take lottery winnings and sink it into a business that you have no experience running. Because you have no idea whether it will be &quot;successful&quot; and/or whether you&#039;ll enjoy the work.  However, with care and caution, owning a business can definitely be a great option for the right person!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to disagree with this statement:</p>
<p>&#8220;Middle class mentality&#8221; seems to be the smarter choice in every way.</p>
<p>&#8211;in which you were suggesting that owning your own business is nothing but a losing proposition, and that having a &#8220;regular&#8221; job is better.</p>
<p>Yes, it sounds like your MIL is stuck in a bad situation with her business. But lots of entrepreneurs thrive on running their own businesses, and if the business is successful it can be a great lifestyle and money-making alternative. The trick is to design the business in ways that really fit your life, and not bury yourself in debt/ investment before you know whether it will work out, or whether you&#8217;ll enjoy the work.  My husband and I own a small business that we&#8217;ve carefully tailored to meet our needs, wherever possible. We make a fairly decent living (though this is a matter of perspective), and we have a pretty laid-back lifestyle.  Sure, we often have to do things we don&#8217;t&#8217; &#8220;want&#8221; to do&#8211; but show me a regular job that doesn&#8217;t require the same (even a job that you love).  Our business isn&#8217;t as big or &#8220;successful&#8221; as it could be, because we prioritize our lifestyle/ flexibility over maximizing profits (and/or risk).</p>
<p>That being said, I do think it would be a terrible idea to take lottery winnings and sink it into a business that you have no experience running. Because you have no idea whether it will be &#8220;successful&#8221; and/or whether you&#8217;ll enjoy the work.  However, with care and caution, owning a business can definitely be a great option for the right person!</p>
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		<title>By: phoenix</title>
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		<dc:creator>phoenix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2011 17:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My MIL runs her own business--I don&#039;t know a harder-working woman.  But she&#039;s as much of a slave to that business as the term implies, esp. with the investment she put in. And she is unhappy and trying to sell--a position she has been in for the past 15 years. &quot;Middle class mentality&quot; seems to be the smarter choice in every way.  One is focused on what is smart and safer and will fulfill you. 

Too often, starting a business can mean you&#039;re stuck doing the things you hate--administrative stuff, hiring, payroll, and managing employees. It is definitely a gamble.  One&#039;s focus should be on what makes him or her happy.  What&#039;s the point of making money when it is miserable to earn it--thru your business or otherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My MIL runs her own business&#8211;I don&#8217;t know a harder-working woman.  But she&#8217;s as much of a slave to that business as the term implies, esp. with the investment she put in. And she is unhappy and trying to sell&#8211;a position she has been in for the past 15 years. &#8220;Middle class mentality&#8221; seems to be the smarter choice in every way.  One is focused on what is smart and safer and will fulfill you. </p>
<p>Too often, starting a business can mean you&#8217;re stuck doing the things you hate&#8211;administrative stuff, hiring, payroll, and managing employees. It is definitely a gamble.  One&#8217;s focus should be on what makes him or her happy.  What&#8217;s the point of making money when it is miserable to earn it&#8211;thru your business or otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: phoenix</title>
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		<dc:creator>phoenix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2011 17:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Barb: I am completely confused at this notion that a school for young children is &quot;leaving your children with strangers.&quot;  First, apparently my children are still being raised by strangers as they attend school—public school at that . When they were younger,  I felt so much better when my children were watched by a school for young children than when my mom watched my children.  The school hired college-trained educators who were taught early childhood ed. and who had been first-aid certified.  Once a year, I would spend an entire day at the school, learning first-hand how amazing an experience it was.  They did all these “silly” games that were fantastic for developing manipulatives and I would use these ideas over the summer when my children were at home.  Not to mention, the socialization couldn’t have been duplicated at home or on playdates.  We still have their favorite caregivers over for dinner 4 years later.  Just last week, we stopped by their former school so the girls could see their former teachers and tell them how this year is going and how much they love “big school.”

@ Annalise: I question how much one can respect a different POV when you term babysitters and day care schools as &quot;day orphanages&quot;.  If this is how you show respect, we have vastly different definitions of the term.  And your vocabulary shows that you have no experience with quality schools for young children.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Barb: I am completely confused at this notion that a school for young children is &#8220;leaving your children with strangers.&#8221;  First, apparently my children are still being raised by strangers as they attend school—public school at that . When they were younger,  I felt so much better when my children were watched by a school for young children than when my mom watched my children.  The school hired college-trained educators who were taught early childhood ed. and who had been first-aid certified.  Once a year, I would spend an entire day at the school, learning first-hand how amazing an experience it was.  They did all these “silly” games that were fantastic for developing manipulatives and I would use these ideas over the summer when my children were at home.  Not to mention, the socialization couldn’t have been duplicated at home or on playdates.  We still have their favorite caregivers over for dinner 4 years later.  Just last week, we stopped by their former school so the girls could see their former teachers and tell them how this year is going and how much they love “big school.”</p>
<p>@ Annalise: I question how much one can respect a different POV when you term babysitters and day care schools as &#8220;day orphanages&#8221;.  If this is how you show respect, we have vastly different definitions of the term.  And your vocabulary shows that you have no experience with quality schools for young children.</p>
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		<title>By: triple-e</title>
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		<dc:creator>triple-e</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2011 12:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.  How do you manage to not let it slip to your coworkers?  is the company big, but the pool small or both?  A great story, hopefully you can pass on your common sense to your child(ren) too!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  How do you manage to not let it slip to your coworkers?  is the company big, but the pool small or both?  A great story, hopefully you can pass on your common sense to your child(ren) too!</p>
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		<title>By: Felice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Felice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2011 05:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is so nice to hear a positive story. Congrats on winning! I am also impressed to hear a story about a winner being &quot;smart&quot; with the money. Most do not account for the taxes let alone think about how they can invest it to make more. Great post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is so nice to hear a positive story. Congrats on winning! I am also impressed to hear a story about a winner being &#8220;smart&#8221; with the money. Most do not account for the taxes let alone think about how they can invest it to make more. Great post!</p>
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		<title>By: Nicole</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2011/09/04/reader-story-winning-the-lottery/comment-page-1/#comment-1782112</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2011 02:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All I know is that I work f/t, my husband works f/t, and my son is perfect.  There&#039;s no way he could be any more perfect even if we&#039;d stayed at home with him 24/7.  So what exactly is staying at home supposed to optimize that we&#039;re not getting as we are? He&#039;s happy, we&#039;re happy.  

He gets a lot and has gotten a lot from having more than just us 2 care providers.  It takes a village to raise any child, and some people&#039;s villages include paid child-care providers.  And that is fine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All I know is that I work f/t, my husband works f/t, and my son is perfect.  There&#8217;s no way he could be any more perfect even if we&#8217;d stayed at home with him 24/7.  So what exactly is staying at home supposed to optimize that we&#8217;re not getting as we are? He&#8217;s happy, we&#8217;re happy.  </p>
<p>He gets a lot and has gotten a lot from having more than just us 2 care providers.  It takes a village to raise any child, and some people&#8217;s villages include paid child-care providers.  And that is fine.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2011 17:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the case of my spouse and I, I think we have enough saved already that another million would be enough for at least one of us to &quot;retire.&quot; I don&#039;t know though. Right now we could &quot;afford&quot; to have one of us take a few years off, until our child(ren) is(are) in school. We&#039;d have to scale back our savings, of course, but they would still be growing. And yet we choose not to do so; both of us like working. So it&#039;s hard to imagine that anything less than full retirement money would be enough to induce one or both of us to retire permanently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the case of my spouse and I, I think we have enough saved already that another million would be enough for at least one of us to &#8220;retire.&#8221; I don&#8217;t know though. Right now we could &#8220;afford&#8221; to have one of us take a few years off, until our child(ren) is(are) in school. We&#8217;d have to scale back our savings, of course, but they would still be growing. And yet we choose not to do so; both of us like working. So it&#8217;s hard to imagine that anything less than full retirement money would be enough to induce one or both of us to retire permanently.</p>
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		<title>By: lawyerette</title>
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		<dc:creator>lawyerette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2011 15:16:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Precisely. Athletes and entertainers don&#039;t have lives like ours, so it&#039;s more difficult for them to live like we do. A friend of mine plays in the NFL. His teammates make fun of him for driving a car that &quot;only&quot; costs $60,000.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Precisely. Athletes and entertainers don&#8217;t have lives like ours, so it&#8217;s more difficult for them to live like we do. A friend of mine plays in the NFL. His teammates make fun of him for driving a car that &#8220;only&#8221; costs $60,000.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2011 09:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree. Cash is the best right now.  So that you can buy into the bear market.  Otherwise, when the market drops, you can&#039;t do anything about it. And if it jumps up, you don&#039;t really need to be fully invested, since income to savings ratio is low.  And there is plenty of time to jump in if the market is on another 50 year rally (fat chance).

I&#039;d say 80% stock is high, but then none of us knows the relevant income.  If the couple is making 100 net annually, 80% does sound right.  I&#039;d also say that precise models to the percent allocation create the illusion of precision to an imprecise calculation.

Going to work or staying home?  Not enough data to opine..  And very personal (ie, if staying home drives both parents crazy, it is not good).  Plus a lot can happen in 50 years (aka, a lifetime), why risk quitting, which is an almost irreversible decision?  Quitting sounds very risky.  Unless the dad is career hopeless - seems extremely unlikely.  Plus, dad&#039;s not working isn&#039;t exactly a good idea for kids development.

Starting a business?  Bad idea.  You can lose a lot of money doing that, especially if all you have is money and no experience (aka a sucker).  Before starting a business, best to work in that field and learn off someone else&#039;s dime.  Then decide if you want to do it.  Plus, if your boss hates his job, it&#039;s a good sign not to go into that business.

Good to hear the good luck story. And the comments.  

your story is a good example for everyone.  Sounds like you made a series of solid decisions that others can have fun rolling around in their heads to compare to their own personalities. And as was posted, everyone can hit it rich - slowly.

Finally, spending 4% a year, with 4% income, isn&#039;t that a great way to go broke?  I know personally that $1 today is a lot less than 20 years ago, even 10 years ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. Cash is the best right now.  So that you can buy into the bear market.  Otherwise, when the market drops, you can&#8217;t do anything about it. And if it jumps up, you don&#8217;t really need to be fully invested, since income to savings ratio is low.  And there is plenty of time to jump in if the market is on another 50 year rally (fat chance).</p>
<p>I&#8217;d say 80% stock is high, but then none of us knows the relevant income.  If the couple is making 100 net annually, 80% does sound right.  I&#8217;d also say that precise models to the percent allocation create the illusion of precision to an imprecise calculation.</p>
<p>Going to work or staying home?  Not enough data to opine..  And very personal (ie, if staying home drives both parents crazy, it is not good).  Plus a lot can happen in 50 years (aka, a lifetime), why risk quitting, which is an almost irreversible decision?  Quitting sounds very risky.  Unless the dad is career hopeless &#8211; seems extremely unlikely.  Plus, dad&#8217;s not working isn&#8217;t exactly a good idea for kids development.</p>
<p>Starting a business?  Bad idea.  You can lose a lot of money doing that, especially if all you have is money and no experience (aka a sucker).  Before starting a business, best to work in that field and learn off someone else&#8217;s dime.  Then decide if you want to do it.  Plus, if your boss hates his job, it&#8217;s a good sign not to go into that business.</p>
<p>Good to hear the good luck story. And the comments.  </p>
<p>your story is a good example for everyone.  Sounds like you made a series of solid decisions that others can have fun rolling around in their heads to compare to their own personalities. And as was posted, everyone can hit it rich &#8211; slowly.</p>
<p>Finally, spending 4% a year, with 4% income, isn&#8217;t that a great way to go broke?  I know personally that $1 today is a lot less than 20 years ago, even 10 years ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nancy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2011 04:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We would be significantly happier if we won the lottery--my husband has been unemployed for almost 2 years on the heels of another year-long stint of unemployment.  Our savings are gone and soon our retirement will be, too.  The stress is killing us.  So yeah, I think our happiness &quot;set point&quot; would not be what it is now if we had a windfall of a million bucks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We would be significantly happier if we won the lottery&#8211;my husband has been unemployed for almost 2 years on the heels of another year-long stint of unemployment.  Our savings are gone and soon our retirement will be, too.  The stress is killing us.  So yeah, I think our happiness &#8220;set point&#8221; would not be what it is now if we had a windfall of a million bucks.</p>
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		<title>By: shallowwater</title>
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		<dc:creator>shallowwater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2011 01:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@amanda

Most part time positions that I know of do not come with health insurance, which I assume is a concern given the new baby, and also the mention of a medical emergency.  A million dollars is a lot of money, but not THAT much, and it will go even faster if they add on the increase in health care costs that come with being uninsured.</description>
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<p>Most part time positions that I know of do not come with health insurance, which I assume is a concern given the new baby, and also the mention of a medical emergency.  A million dollars is a lot of money, but not THAT much, and it will go even faster if they add on the increase in health care costs that come with being uninsured.</p>
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		<title>By: PawPrint</title>
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		<dc:creator>PawPrint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2011 21:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are lots of &quot;mediocre&quot; fulfilled people out there who love their jobs and value their free time. I applaud the people who want to work 18 hour days and don&#039;t get anxious sinking their life savings into their business. I&#039;m not one of them and am totally satisfied being mediocre while sipping wine on the patio of my smallish house, looking at my blooming flowers and thinking about my next trip to Hawaii. Appropos to nothing, really, but I&#039;ve always wondered why people love to complain about Starbuck&#039;s and Microsoft--they started out as small businesses. People don&#039;t seem to deal well with small businesses turning into large businesses yet isn&#039;t having an idea, starting a business and having it grow the American Dream? (Although not my American Dream)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are lots of &#8220;mediocre&#8221; fulfilled people out there who love their jobs and value their free time. I applaud the people who want to work 18 hour days and don&#8217;t get anxious sinking their life savings into their business. I&#8217;m not one of them and am totally satisfied being mediocre while sipping wine on the patio of my smallish house, looking at my blooming flowers and thinking about my next trip to Hawaii. Appropos to nothing, really, but I&#8217;ve always wondered why people love to complain about Starbuck&#8217;s and Microsoft&#8211;they started out as small businesses. People don&#8217;t seem to deal well with small businesses turning into large businesses yet isn&#8217;t having an idea, starting a business and having it grow the American Dream? (Although not my American Dream)</p>
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