This post is from new staff writer Tim Sullivan. Get Rich Slowly started as a place for J.D. to write about money. Over the past five-plus years, it’s grown into a multi-author blog. Last year, the staff writers shared short bios to give readers a little background. Today, our newest writer does the same.
Sitting down to a cup of tea with a friend, she talked about her job-hunt, bemoaned her boyfriend’s quirks, explained her fears about her mounting debt, and said the priceless line, “I’m just at a really transitional time in my life.” I remember thinking mid-sip, Who the heck isn’t?
I suppose this philosophy has begun to pervade my thoughts on finance and life in general, for that matter. We’re all always transitioning. Whenever you see someone who feels like he finally has the job, the house, the family, the perfect car, whenever you see someone who feels like he has truly arrived, it all falls apart. The house burns down. The job disappears. Any number of events will knock us out of our perceived comfort. I don’t mean this to be a call to build bomb-shelters, literal or figurative, but rather to encourage finding peace with the unknown future and exist with confidence in the transitions. Find peace with it, yes, but also prepare for it.
Transitioning into the real world
I went to Sarah Lawrence College, a liberal arts school with no grades, no tests, no core curriculum, no majors, no requirements, and full of teachers willing to grab some tea with you after class. We were encouraged to run around barefoot and follow anything and everything we were passionate about all with the academic guidance of amazing professors. For me, that mostly meant studying writing, music composition, dance, environmentalism, and French literature. All extremely financially profitable, right?
When I finally had my degree in hand, I took a look at my financial output. I realized the top three categories my disposable income went toward were yoga, tea, and massage, as follows:
- It’s rare that I don’t have my yoga mat strapped to the back of my scooter, as I’m sure to be in class at some point that day. It’s also doubled as my sleeping pad while trekking through the rainforest and outbacks.
- Tea has moved to the level of artistry in my life, and a morning meditation over a steaming cup of tea starts my day off right. It was also my first investment — I bought an aged tablet of Chinese Pu-Erh tea which promises to be worth more than gold a mere decade from now. (Here’s your college fund, kids. Don’t drink it!)
- As for massage, I mean, who doesn’t like a good massage? If we’re talking finance, massage is a small investment that can reduce medical costs for the rest of your life. Massage should be an important aspect of self-care.
I went about applying for a few jobs that could support my three out-of-control wellness habits, and finally decided that I’d much rather, you know, not pay for them. I’m now a yoga teacher, massage therapist (and sometime massage blogger), and work one day a week a tea shop. Countless free yoga classes, massage trades, and samples of tea later, my three largest expenses have been zeroed out.
Lifestyle design and planning for transitions
My hobbies have become careers, which in turn support my out-of-control plane ticket habit (Though I hear there are ways around paying for that, too.). I graduated just a few years ago and I’ve been able to accomplish some pretty big goals, such as:
- Living in multiple countries, including just under Erik Satie’s apartment in Paris, France
- Making a living doing things most people call hobbies
- Paid off my college loans (More on that in an upcoming post.)
This involved careful planning: I’ve done the research for each transatlantic move; I’ve made sure that I show up to every interview fully prepared; and I don’t leave one place without having at least some security in the next.
But I’ve also never turned down an opportunity just because the outcome was unknown. Finding the balance between planning and risk is usually the roadblock that forces most into inaction. How do you find the balance? That’s the question I keep coming back to, and the journey to find answers is what I hope to share with you.
Personal finance and preparation
Although I’m designing my career around my lifestyle, I still have a lot to learn. For example, in the past, growing my savings account usually meant I would work more and harder at the expense of all free time. I also thought that if I was at work, I wasn’t spending any money, and that’s good, too, right? Yet after 12-hour shift or a fifth yoga class or whatever keeps us away from the house from dawn until dusk, you tend to justify rewards, and rewards (giant burritos) add up.
Not to mention that the words personal finance used to make my eyes glaze over. All the acronyms and ways to invest, which savings accounts to use, and how to save for retirement (I’m set to retire in the year 2052. I’m going to be so upset if I don’t retire on the moon or Saturn or something. 2052? That can’t be real year.) — it made my liberal arts mind feel so powerless. Money was for the rich, and the rich are the only ones who understand all the acronyms.
But after starting to read Get Rich Slowly and taking J.D.’s advice to take action, I started with a few small steps, such as ordering my pharmacy stuff online and not buying clothes I never wear. It all led to more conscious spending habits.
By being a more discerning spender and learning a few tricks here and there, I’m finding myself with more time and more money. It feels oddly…empowering.
Figuring it out
In a time when college graduates face article after article about our plummeting economy and abysmal job prospects, it seems that the worse decision a young adult could make is actually graduating. It’s refreshing, and yes, empowering, to be given tools to not live paycheck to paycheck.
I can’t say that I have everything figured out or really much of anything, but I’ll continue research thoroughly and take calculated risks, and I look forward to hearing from you as you do the same. Here at GRS, I’d also love to explore personal finance for the 20-something single crowd; how to take time off as an independent contractor; how to budget without, you know, budgeting; how to travel well on the cheap; and why (or why not) to go to grad school.
When I’m not writing here or standing on my head in yoga class, you can find me searching for a solution to the Chicago Bears O-line problems, translating obscure 19th century French poetry, going on BBQ tours with friends, or Skyping my mother.
I’m looking forward to my new role in the GRS community, and I’d also like to hear from you. Let me know in the comments if there’s a topic you’d like me to cover!
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Thanks for the glimpse into your life. I’m looking forward to your post on balancing risk and planning. A good lesson to learn even in my 60s or maybe especially in my 60s? I need to take a few more risks.
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Turning a hobby into a career sure sounds nice. Looking forward to hearing your advice!
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I’m so excited to read more of your posts! Sometime the posts by contributors are aimed at people in a different stage of life for me and I have to stretch to make it applicable. This stuff is incredibly relatable, right off the bat. Looking forward to reading more from you!
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Tim – I LOVED reading your bio…can’t wait to read more! Very interesting how you’ve built careers around your hobbies. I look forward to hearing more about your journey and experiences getting to that point. I’m doing something similar as I’ve found a part time job working with horses. It’s the best job except I probably wouldn’t eat if I didn’t have my other job too! Lol…again look forward to hearing more.
Tera
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I know Tim personally and Every, I mean Every time I see him around town he is either smiling very big, or at minimum, in a good mood! I am glad to read more about his formula for success and happiness for him. I have some thoughts to mull and habits and choices to ponder
What I love is that it’s never too late and going with your gut in this thoughtful and calculated fashion has to be a good move; at least you know you have done the right thing for You.
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I want some of that Pu-erh, Tim Sullivan.
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“Finding the balance between planning and risk is usually the roadblock that forces most into inaction.”
Yes, this! Love it!
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Tim,
Excited to read more of what you have to say! I’m a single 20-something, and all though I love GRS with all my heart sometimes I feel a little left out of the conversation. You and I are on wildly different paths at the moment, but I look forward to your future posts.
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Same here! I’m glad the new staff writer is young and childfree, it’s easier to relate to as a broke art student. I think I’m going to like Tim a lot.
Still wish we could have a European writer, but Tim seems very worldly, and if we had a writer for every continent this blog would get weird and probably unbalanced (I’ll write a guest post if I get accepted on the British Antarctic Survey art placement
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P.S Tim! Recommend me a good green tea to clear my head in the morning and get me up and running!
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Thanks for sharing, I look forward to reading your articles.
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I’m in my 20′s, single, working professionally. I absolutely follow the ‘if I work more, I will have more, and have less time to spend it’ mentality. This has lead me to 70-80 hour weeks and feeling very dependent on that OT money. I look forward to learning more about other 20-somethings and their financial paths.
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I look forward to hearing your advice! I’m no longer single (married with 2 kids), but my husband is just starting his career out of college and so we kind of fall into both categories.
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By the way, are the title and writer highlight correct on this post? Looks like it was written by April Dykman and not Tim Sullivan.
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Hi Molly,
I’m putting in Tim’s posts until he’s in the system with his own fancy header.
-A
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I was with you right until the boast about “translating obscure 19th century French poetry” in your spare time. A little modesty would be appreciated. But welcome, nevertheless.
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I didn’t see this as immodest. Tim was interested in French literature in college, which probably made the time he spent living in Paris all the more meaningful. It’s great he’s living his life in a way that gives him time to pursue this interest–so often, people concentrate so much on their careers that the skills and interests they developed in college that aren’t directly relevant to their job fall by the wayside. I’m interested to read more about how Tim has managed it!
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What the hell, how is that a “boast”? Pschhhhhhhh!
“Your taste in books makes me feel inferior”
Issues much?
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No, but you seem to have issues with me. It’s just my opinion and I was just offering a bit of feedback to a new writer.
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I gave a thumbs up to your post because I have issues with your “opinion”. Yeah, I think it’s toxic. Just offering some feedback.
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I didn’t find that line boastful, but, instead, saw it as a mere reference to a particularly unique interest of the writer.
El Nerdo, I do feel your response could have been more respectful and less aggressive.
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Yes, maybe, the 2nd one was too much. Sorry.
I stand by my 1st reaction though.
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Oh my. Gosh, I sort of assumed he was mildly poking fun at himself and the usefulness of some of his college classes.
But then, I’m a liberal arts supporter myself and find a nod toward using one’s brain in a free activity not to be as offensive as you seem to.
There, just offering some “feedback” for your commenting!
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Welcome! I’m interested in hearing more about how your hobbies have become careers.
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I love articles about real people who have learned, struggled & persevered through difficulties. I particularly liked, “Finding the balance between planning and risk is usually the roadblock that forces most into inaction. How do you find the balance?” I’m an older man than Tim, and I wish I had had this amount of wisdom when I was younger.
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I’m really excited to see some advice from an ambitious 20-something that’s not as…intense as some of the other younger personal finance bloggers out there who’ve gone straight into high-powered MBA grad mode. I want to be able to afford doing what I love, not spend every waking moment thinking about how to get ahead. That said, I’ve been tinkering with the idea of becoming self-employed down the line, so your teaser on advice to come about independent contracting is especially intriguing. Welcome, Tim!
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Welcome
I look forward to your future posts.
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Great to hear about Tim and I look forward to his posts.
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Off topic, but what is: http://www.getrichslowly.org/guide-to-money/ ?
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I’m not convinced that this jaunty young addition to GRS isn’t a parody, but I’ll bite. (Chris Guillebeau liked this better the first time, when it was called Tim Ferriss.)
This passage makes no sense:
“…whenever you see someone who feels like he has truly arrived, it all falls apart. The house burns down. The job disappears.”
You’re not saying that that happens rarely, or even occasionally. You’re saying it always happens, like it’s a natural law. My house has yet to burn down, literally or figuratively. What were you going for there? Success = failure?
Also…Edwin Williams is second on the Bears’ depth chart at both guard positions. He didn’t allow a sack on Sunday despite playing about 50 snaps. Considering he’s left-handed, shouldn’t they just pencil him in at right guard, shift Lance Louis to left guard and be done with it?
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You don’t get it?
Are you so fortunate that you’ve never had a single problem in your entire life?
I get what Tim is saying. It’s the same thing my dad has always told me my entire life: “Something always happens”.
And it’s true. It doesn’t matter how successful you are, something is always going to happen, at least for 99% of us. You get a house, a career, success, and BAM…something happens to derail you. Maybe it’s cancer. Maybe it’s a loved one dying. Maybe it’s a job loss. Maybe it’s someone stealing your identity. Or your spouse cheats on you, and it ends up in a messy divorce. Or Legal battles. Or perhaps you get into a serious car wreck that takes away your health for a while. Or a natural disaster happens, like a hurricane or tornado. Or a Ponzi scheme takes all your retirement. Or a trusted financial adviser turned crook takes your money. Perhaps a fire does burn down your house. A myriad of things could happen from merely awful to absolutely horrific.
You mean not one bad thing has ever happened to you in your entire life that might necessitate some sort of change in your life? If so, you’re either very young, or very blessed.
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So the lesson is that life is dynamic, not static? That’s it?
All the negative occurrences you mentioned can happen irrespective of one’s life station. You can just as easily be living under a bridge when you get the cancer diagnosis, or news of a loved one dying. The something that could always happen could be positive, too. On balance it probably will be, given mankind’s long historical march from misery to affluence.
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The lesson is “don’t settle into your routine thinking you have it ‘made’”.
For people who bad things always happen to, this is a lesson that doesn’t need to be learned. We’re used to crap happening, so we don’t let our guard down, even when we have it good. We’re still on guard, and realize we might need to be flexible and change in a moment’s notice.
But I suppose some people who work hard, and finally arrive in a great place in life just might be tempted to think “Ahhh, this is it. I have a great job, no debt, my savings schedule is in place…all I need to do is keep my steady path onward, and stick to my current Plan, and I’ll have it made. I can go on automatic from here on out”.
Yes, life IS dynamic, and Yes, some people *do* forget this, and forget to be flexible and ready for change.
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I think the gist of that comment is the acknowledgment that nothing is truly secure. Not Murphy’s Law, but rather the reality of impermanence. What seems like security to some is, in fact, a house of cards.
If you’ve never experienced suffering or loss, how lucky for you. If you think you never will……then you haven’t yet lived long enough or loved long enough.
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Nothing lasts forever and change is a constant force in our lives. It can also be for the better (falling in love, a new job, a baby, etc.) as well as for the worse.
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As a 20 something, I wish someone would have told me to put grad school on the back burner and enjoy my 20s a bit more. Grad school will still be there when I’m 30.
As it is now I’m 27 and almost done, but I’ve had to put a lot of other important things on the back burner. Settling down, starting a family, traveling. Now I feel like after grad school I’ll have to play “catch up”.
I’m curious to see what others have to say about grad school (in your 20s)
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@Diane
I can see your perspective, and I appreciate hearing it. As someone who put grad school on the back burner to start a career and get married, now I’m 25 and hoping that I didn’t put grad school off too long. Being married for me and my husband means thinking about future finances and kids…it makes it harder to think about going back to school. Sometimes I think it would have been easier to do if I had just done it immediately. But I guess you never know what will happen down the line to make it possible.
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I went to grad school in my early twenties, and I’m really glad that I did. I was still young enough that I didn’t have a lot of financial responsibilities like a mortgage or raising a family, and I was used to living like a student without a regular salary. My student loans were deferred while I was in grad school, and that was my only debt. Still, the teaching assistantship I had was meager, so I had to learn to live off of a very small, fixed income. Because money was so tight, I was forced to learn how to manage my money wisely. I still say today that that was one of the best things I learned in grad school! I have taken those lessons with me and now that I earn a more comfortable salary, I am able to save a considerable amount. In the end, I think it was one of the best moves I could have made for myself financially (and not just because the job I was able to get after graduating).
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nice to see someone my age. the bears o line sucks..=D
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As a college blogger, I would love to hear more about your experience at Sarah Lawrence. All I have ever heard about the place is that it has the highest sticker price of any private college. I think it would be awesome to have an insider critique.
Looking forward to your posts!
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Transitioning is too formal how about Looping, life and career is just like a Loop.
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Welcome, Tim! I’m another single 20-something who reads this site. You’ve mentioned a lot of things that intrigue me (when/how/if re: grad school and independent contracting, for examples).
As a 25 year old who has a tendency to drunkenly praise mint.com and Roth IRAs to my sweet, patient, less financially savvy friends, I’m eager to hear more about some ways to tone down my financial…er…fascination. And how to mesh my financial priorities and my social life.
It can be a bit lonely out here in 20-something financial awareness land. (A friend recently signed up for mint.com, and as we went through the features, she looked at me, wide-eyed, and said, “Every other transaction is at a bar.” Yes, dear. That’s why I’ve been trying to explain for the past 12 months that I’d rather hang out at home instead of at the bar because I don’t want to drink my vacation and retirement funds.)
I love the comments and perspectives of raising kids, saving for college and retirement, etc. that I read here. I know I’ll appreciate them when I get to those life stages. I also know that solely reading those perspectives has probably made me obsess a little too much about settling down and being responsible.
Looking forward to reading more!
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For a site about being frugal, you choose a blogger who attended one of the highest priced colleges in the country? that mommy and daddy probably paid for? I don’t see how this fits.
but I do see how that College is precisely what is wrong with America right now. Charging 55k a year for yoga classes? and tea with professors? O M G.
Not knocking it as a great experience, which I am sure it was, but seriously?
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I know, right? I went to an engineering school that had a co-op program because my parents had no money to help me through college. I alternated school and work every three months for 5 years. A liberal arts education, let alone such an expensive one, and “designing a career around my lifestyle” (sorry, but I roll my eyes whenever I see this phrase) were luxuries no one in my family could afford. I can’t relate to this blogger at all.
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I am glad to see I am not the only one who choked on this article. Choosing to study “writing, music composition, dance, environmentalism, and French literature”?
A college of no grades, no tests, no core curriculum, no majors, and no requirements? Why not just say it is a place to slack off for 4 yrs?
It may have worked out that the author was able to support himself following this “education”, but the vast majority of of graduates are being ripped off.
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He mentioned he is going to address how he paid off his college loans in an upcoming post. Perhaps it would behoove us all to wait and not pass judgement with incomplete information? Well, and maybe not pass judgement at all? So what if “mommy and daddy” paid for college? Does that make him less than someone who worked two jobs to get through? Not necessarily, but, in my experience, it does sometimes provide a chip for the shoulder of latter.
We are all given different starts and opportunities in life, and it’s up to us how/if we decide to use them. I don’t believe that those advantages or disadvantages make any particular person more or less directly qualified to offer advise or insight. Whether or not “mommy and daddy” paid for college, it seems to me that he can offer an alternate perspective on topics in the realms of personal finance and life in general. Whether it’s universally relevant is yet to be determined.
And I must add that I have the utmost respect for folks who have started with “nothing” and worked very hard in order to achieve goals, such as a college education. Many of us have an advantage just by being born into nations that have more advantages universally than others. However, I don’t think it’s fair to discount those who “had it easier” and write them off as irrelevant or belittle their accomplishments. You’d be hard pressed to really find someone who is truly “self-made” even if the only advantage is the country in which you were born. And no one is better than or less than another just by how they start out – there is little choice in that matter. That is determined by what they do with it, IMO.
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I’d like for people who think someone is a spoiled brat because of where he or she attended college to consider two scenarios.
Person A worked through high school, held down four jobs in college, applied for dozens of scholarships (and had some help from the parents), and applied to several schools and consciously chose the school with the curriculum that appealed most, though the school was expensive. The loans were paid off within a few years of graduating.
Person B had the occasional job in HS and worked less than 15 hours/wk in college, but didn’t save money or use it toward school; received one scholarship based on PSAT test scores (no application req.); and went to a school where acceptance was guaranteed because the top 10% by GPA were automatically admitted. Parents paid 100% and took out a home equity loan to do so, which took years to pay back.
Who’s the spoiled brat? Person A (Tim) who evaluated schools and worked hard because he valued his education, or Person B (me)?
At the time, I didn’t know what I didn’t know. One uncle went to college in my family. I didn’t understand home equity loans or what that might mean for my parents’ retirement, and neither did they. I didn’t look at expensive schools because I thought they were for rich people (not that I didn’t love UT Austin, but I should have looked at other options). The HS counselor never talked to us about visiting schools or the millions of dollars out there for college students — I didn’t even know to look for it.
So the fact that Tim did all of this is pretty impressive to me, and I’d no more judge him for attending an amazing private university than I would someone who went to community college, or didn’t go to college at all.
I’d also like to add that in his first draft, which I edited, Tim didn’t include where he went to school or that he lived in France. I asked for those details because I thought they were interesting.
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Thanks for the replies, April and Tim. I’m willing to admit when I make a mistake, so consider this my mea culpa. Now that I know more, I’m very impressed with Tim’s drive to go after what he wanted. Tim, I apologize for my knee-jerk harshness (my reaction was more about me than about you), and I look forward to reading your future posts.
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Dan -
I think this site is about how not to waste your money on things that are unimportant to you so that you can spend it on the things that are important to you. And those things are different for each of us. The great part is we get to decide for ourselves.
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I am not trying to knock Tim as a person, he sounds happy and I am glad that he has found this path for himself.
I guess I am really stuck on the process he went through to get there. He spent (whether it was him or his parents) at least 200k for an education he could have received for less than a 1/10th of that. I do not see how that conveys this site’s ideologies.
My mother went back to school to become a massage therapist and health coach, because she was unhappy/fed up with her CPA career, it cost her 8k total.
So what I get out of the post is he is spoiled because he just went on a 4 year all expenses paid vacation, or he is financially irresposible because he took out such massive debt that he has no shot at repaying any time soon on his chosen career path. Either way it is not what I am used to on GRS.
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“So what I get out of the post is he is spoiled because he just went on a 4 year all expenses paid vacation, or he is financially irresposible because he took out such massive debt that he has no shot at repaying any time soon on his chosen career path. Either way it is not what I am used to on GRS.”
Exactly.
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Did I miss something, or imagine that I read he has paid off his student loans already? Which to me, implies that there were loans and he wasn’t entirely on mom and dad’s dime. Which means he understands that debt sucks and didn’t want it in his life.
Which…makes him fit in just fine with the ideology of this site. Some of these comments almost read to me like bitter judgments of those who didn’t go with the cheap option and still lived to tell the tale after paying off the bill.
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Didn’t you read his post? He has no student loan debt…
“Paid off my college loans (More on that in an upcoming post.)”
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Wow. Calm down. I drink Great Value brand green tea (add orange peel for flavor), never had a professional massage and have tried yoga … on my Wii. I don’t have a lot in common with Tim, either, but I’m betting I’ll pick up something new from his different perspective. Or I’ll just stop reading. No biggie.
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Hey there,
Thank you guys for your comments. I chose Sarah Lawrence because really, there is no place like it. I could have gone to other schools but for what SLC offered, and the curriculum behind it, there really was no other place.
So the question became how to pay for it… Yes, it’s really darn pricey, but it was a priority for me. My father helped (thanks Pops), but so did the Ayn Rand foundation, the Carlos Baldoceda scholarship fund, Aaron Copland House, The Illinois State Young Composers Award, the Oak Park Arts Council, Frank Llyod Wright Home and Studio, and Albertsons. It didn’t hurt that I worked 20 hours a week throughout all of High School and held onto four jobs all through college. The money is out there, and sites like fastweb give you an opportunity to scroll through scholarship after scholarship and write essay after essay. The money is out there, just do the work and ask for it.
I’ll be excited to do a post for everyone about how I paid for everything, because it wasn’t at all easy. That said, there was nothing more important to me.
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Money IS out there. I went back to school in my late 40s and got grants and scholarships that paid me to go, i.e., there was always money left over to pay for books and (frugal) living expenses.
It’s a lot of work to apply. Paying off college debt is a lot of work, too. Get your kids going on the front end.
Allow me to join the chorus of “Give the guy a break, already — let him show what he’s about before judging him for having the audacity to have been born into a somewhat affluent situation.”
And I’d say that even if I weren’t a colleague.
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I’d recommend you guys read his article more carefully. AFTER he had his degree in hand, he started looking at the expenses in his life, pursued jobs that would allow him to pursue his passions (he did not say he got a 200k degree in yoga and massage–sounds like those certifications came after, and he probably obtained them for the same price your mother did), and THEN he started reading GRS and is on the road to being more frugal.
Just because someone can afford to go to an expensive college or has parents who can help them out while you scrimp and save doesn’t make you better than them. I had to pay for my own college, but some of my friends didn’t. I’m no better than them for that.
It’s amazing that we are all here to learn more about being frugal with our money so that we aren’t bound by our finances and a slave to our bank account. Yet when someone achieves that and is able to help their children pay for college, they are snobs creating spoiled brats? Come on, guys. Sounds like the “frugal” ones are being the snobs.
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I totally agree. This is what I was getting at in what I just posted. Let’s all respect each other and not let jealousy cause us to make snap judgements on each other. Everyone is different. We can still learn from each other.
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“So what I get out of the post is he is spoiled because he just went on a 4 year all expenses paid vacation, or he is financially irresposible because he took out such massive debt that he has no shot at repaying any time soon on his chosen career path. Either way it is not what I am used to on GRS.”
Did you read the post? He mentions that he has paid off his school loans. Besides, what if he is a spoiled rich kid whose parents paid full ride to go to college. Does that somehow automatically disqualify anything he has to say? I guess we’re back to the frugality badge – I’m better than you because I’m poor nonsense.
Personally – I like his writing style so far – and I like the call to accountability, and maybe that comes from having made those mistakes earlier. I sure am interested in how he paid off the student loans. Welcome Tim.
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“He spent (whether it was him or his parents) at least 200k for an education he could have received for less than a 1/10th of that. I do not see how that conveys this site’s ideologies.”
So now somebody has to attend an approved (read: inexpensive) college before they’re allowed to be a GRS writer?
Besides, if it’s such an incredibly expensive school and he managed to pay off that kind of money in loans in a relatively few years, he definitely has good information to impart.
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Welcome, Tim! As an early 30s something still with a significant burden of graduate student loan debt, I would appreciate any insight you had on strategies to paying off your student loans and your experiences in this regard.
Cheers!
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My only concern is that we’re sacrificing style for substance. As a 20-something, my life, like may post school 20-somethings is about the daily grind. How do you balance slaving away in corporate/non-profit/government america, maintain sanity, and still find the time to meet your debts and have meaningful life experiences. I’m not saying Tim won’t be able to write relatvent articles, but I’ll be a little skeptical.
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Welcome! I’m so excited to read your perspective. I would like to hear about:
–What made you decide to pay off your student loans so quickly, as opposed to paying them off early but not quite as fast? What have been the benefits of doing so?
–How does doing so much yoga influence your life?
–Are you resisting the urge to attend grad school? I did not, and now I tell people all the time to not go to grad school!
Thanks!
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Welcome Tim!
I’m also a 20-something hoping to build a career out of my passions. Look forward to learning from you!
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“spoiled” seems pretty harsh and judgmental, without any knowledge of how school was paid for or how Europe was possible.
I’d love to hear more about working your way through Europe.
Tim seems like a bright young man who balances risks with supporting himself by doing what he loves and working hard at it.
I’m looking forward to knowing more.
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How did Sarah Lawrence judge a students performance? With no grades, no tests, no requirements how would anyone (including the student) know if they were failing?
It just makes me think of all the recent news articles out about study of more than 2,300 undergraduates found 45 percent of students show no significant improvement in the key measures of critical thinking, complex reasoning and writing by the end of their sophomore years.
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as the US education system falls further and further behind the curve
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Hey Harmony!
I couldnt agree with you more. I think that’s one of the reasons I chose Sarah Lawrence. At SLC, we wrote extensively. Throughout the semester, we had many smaller papers which were quickly over shadowed by the daunting “conference paper” which was on a subject of our choosing that loosely related to the class. I was writing 80 page papers by my sophomore year which I’d never have dreamt of in High School.
As far as failing, we met individual with our teacher every other week as well as having only 10 students in each class, it made it hard to fall behind. It wasn’t hand holding, it was simply constant intellectual expatiation.
At the end of the semester, we got written evaluations from each teacher detailing strengths and weaknesses in the work we produced.
Dan, I agree. The higher education system in this country is far from okay. Most Sarah Lawrence grads would be right behind you.
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Fellow Sarah Lawrence grad here.
I studied what I was interested in (diaspora studies, psychology, literature) and was accepted to 3 well respected Medical schools (although I didn’t go). I instead followed my passion and have worked in education since graduation. I’m now a financial adviser at a college.
I should add that there were grades on record if you needed them (for people like me who planned on further education after undergrad) but they weren’t forced on you. It was much more helpful to get in-depth written evaluations on your work than a big old A and no comments on a paper.
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Tim, I am very much looking forward to (what seems to be) a fresh and new perspective on finance and maybe life choices in general.
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I loved this article! As a 51 year old woman who has spent my life in debt and working at a dead end job for 31 years to pay that debt, I will find it refreshing to hear from someone who didn’t just work to pay the bills but actually was paid for something they loved. I’m excited to read more!
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Welcome, Tim! I look forward to your fresh, young perspective. I’m in my 20s and dealing with the quarter-life crisis of “I graduated a couple years ago, entered the working drone world, don’t want a mortgage or 2.5 kids, now what do I do?”
It sounds like SLC gave you critical thinking skills that many people, old and young, lack today. To all the frugal snobs criticizing him, JD always says you should put your money toward what you’re passionate about. He spends his money on crossfit, Tim spent his money, and his dad’s money, and lots of scholarship money, and loan money, on an education that he clearly values.
Competitions of who’s the poorest are just as obnoxious and entitled as who’s the richest.
Ultimately, personal finance is about the choices we make and how smartly we can make them. Good on Tim for working his butt off for scholarships and paying off student loans.
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I liked this article and look forward to hearing more from Tim about his not-by-the-book lifestyle. I would love to find a hobby that could turn into a paid career.
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Tim,
You’re fortunate and hopefully humbled by the honor of writing for some of the best blog readers in the blogosphere. As a financial planner, free-lance writer and long-time reader of this blog, I’ll admit that I’d love to have that gig.
My one comment on your post: If you define retirement in non-financial terms, you’re already retired. Don’t wait for 2052. The biggest problem for all humans is that we are stuck in future time. True wealth resides in the present moment. You’ve transformed your hobbies into streams of income; you’ve aligned “who you are” with “what you do.” Your life is already rich. Think (and perhaps write) about that…
“Get Rich Slowly” is not just a blog about getting financially rich, step by step, over a long period of time. After reading more comments from readers, you will learn that one of the most popular books among GRS readers is “Your Money or Your Life.” This book (and GRS) at its core is more about philosophy than finance.
Don’t worry about the “acronyms” or that “money is only for the rich.” Worry that you might miss life while searching for financial success.
“What is important in life is life, and not the result of life.” ~ Johann Wolfgang Von Goethe
I wish you the best…
Kent @ The Financial Philosopher
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Welcome! It’s nice to see someone else who values a liberal arts education, and good to have a contributor in a similar stage of life.
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Best of Luck Tim and looking forward to your posts. You rightly mentioned that our school and college does not prepare us for the complex financial world. We feel that “Money was for the rich, and the rich are the only ones who understand all the acronym” We would not let people drive a vehicle without taking a driving test but allow them to enter adult world without any financial education. Remember Journey of a thousand miles begin with a single step. Best wishes again.
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I am glad you are a part of the Get Rich Slowly team!! I am excited to read more articles geared toward the young single crowd.
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Welcome Tim! As an enginerd type, who had to work my way through college, then burned through my twenties by working too much, and is only now realizing perhaps there’s more to life – you are a complete opposite of me. And I am completely fascinated with your view point and choices as described by this bio. Good for you for doing what you love and loving what you do!
You are definitely a different voice on GRS but I hope you can expound more on this theme: “growing my savings account usually meant I would work more and harder at the expense of all free time. I also thought that if I was at work, I wasn’t spending any money, and that’s good, too, right?” and this one too “But I’ve also never turned down an opportunity just because the outcome was unknown. Finding the balance between planning and risk is usually the roadblock that forces most into inaction. How do you find the balance?”
I am eager to hear more from you and hopefully learn a bit about life from a more adventuresome spirit.
Good luck to you!
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Tim, I love your Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous photo shoot.
Just had to let you know.
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Welcome Tim. I like how you are talking about hobbies turning into careers. I am wondering: Did you consciously do this or look around one day and noticed you had made these decisions putting you on these paths unintentionally? I think helping people figure out their passions in addition to your take on finances would be a good reminder for all of us to do the same.
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Ok, I apologize if this is a rude question, but I just HAVE to know:
How does an avid tea-drinker keep his teeth so white?!! What’s your secret??
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