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		<title>By: Kim</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2011/10/20/an-early-education-in-financial-literacy/comment-page-1/#comment-1971972</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 00:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So why not give children real world experience while they are young? There is no rule stating real world experience comes after they leave home. 

Besides, making financial mistakes while they are young is by far less serious than when they are older and provides quite an education.

This is one of the reasons I started Kidbudget. Its a system that teaches children basic sound financial principles. It is very different in the way kids learn - they will like it - and is based on things they do in the real world. 

The greatest asset is that it provokes conversations with the child and the parent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So why not give children real world experience while they are young? There is no rule stating real world experience comes after they leave home. </p>
<p>Besides, making financial mistakes while they are young is by far less serious than when they are older and provides quite an education.</p>
<p>This is one of the reasons I started Kidbudget. Its a system that teaches children basic sound financial principles. It is very different in the way kids learn &#8211; they will like it &#8211; and is based on things they do in the real world. </p>
<p>The greatest asset is that it provokes conversations with the child and the parent.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2011 13:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great idea!  My son has been managing his own monthly budget since 8th grade.  He gets his money on the 1st of the month and I don&#039;t want to hear about meals out with friends, video game releases, or whatever.  He knows how to manage his money now (he&#039;s 16 now).  His Economics class at school just had them do a mock budget based on the starting salary of whatever career they&#039;ve chosen - including in their budget rent, groceries, student loans, car insurance, health insurance, etc.  What a great project!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great idea!  My son has been managing his own monthly budget since 8th grade.  He gets his money on the 1st of the month and I don&#8217;t want to hear about meals out with friends, video game releases, or whatever.  He knows how to manage his money now (he&#8217;s 16 now).  His Economics class at school just had them do a mock budget based on the starting salary of whatever career they&#8217;ve chosen &#8211; including in their budget rent, groceries, student loans, car insurance, health insurance, etc.  What a great project!</p>
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		<title>By: Natalie @ Mango</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2011/10/20/an-early-education-in-financial-literacy/comment-page-1/#comment-1923862</link>
		<dc:creator>Natalie @ Mango</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Oct 2011 20:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Soooo important to start teaching kids about finances at an early age! Check out our post at Mango Money on the Financial ABCs for more info: http://www.mangomoney.com/blog/blog/teach-your-kids-to-sing-the-financial-abcs    Thanks for the post, J.D.!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Soooo important to start teaching kids about finances at an early age! Check out our post at Mango Money on the Financial ABCs for more info: <a href="http://www.mangomoney.com/blog/blog/teach-your-kids-to-sing-the-financial-abcs" rel="nofollow">http://www.mangomoney.com/blog/blog/teach-your-kids-to-sing-the-financial-abcs</a>    Thanks for the post, J.D.!</p>
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		<title>By: D. Hess</title>
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		<dc:creator>D. Hess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Oct 2011 20:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>we have been using dave ramsey&#039;s envelope system for our kids.  they get money for doing chores, and money deducted for bad behavior. we pay them cash once a week.  money goes into three envelopes: spend, save, and give.  they have to put a small amount into the give envelope to put in offering at church, spend is for candy, etc, and save is for a specific thing they are saving for: usually it is a wii game or lego set, etc. (we have 7 yr old twin boys)  it has given them a real sense of ownership, and teaches them about goals, and gives value to money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we have been using dave ramsey&#8217;s envelope system for our kids.  they get money for doing chores, and money deducted for bad behavior. we pay them cash once a week.  money goes into three envelopes: spend, save, and give.  they have to put a small amount into the give envelope to put in offering at church, spend is for candy, etc, and save is for a specific thing they are saving for: usually it is a wii game or lego set, etc. (we have 7 yr old twin boys)  it has given them a real sense of ownership, and teaches them about goals, and gives value to money.</p>
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		<title>By: Rosa</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2011/10/20/an-early-education-in-financial-literacy/comment-page-1/#comment-1920462</link>
		<dc:creator>Rosa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2011 15:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my favorite thing about my son having his own money (that he &quot;earns&quot; at a set rate for chores/learning new habits) is never, ever, ever having to listen to begging. He wants a toy. Does it cost more than he has? End of discussion. 

The price is having to patiently listen to his lengthy and emotional decisionmaking when he *does* have the money, but even that has been getting better as he gets older.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my favorite thing about my son having his own money (that he &#8220;earns&#8221; at a set rate for chores/learning new habits) is never, ever, ever having to listen to begging. He wants a toy. Does it cost more than he has? End of discussion. </p>
<p>The price is having to patiently listen to his lengthy and emotional decisionmaking when he *does* have the money, but even that has been getting better as he gets older.</p>
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		<title>By: Rosa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rosa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2011 15:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Girl Scounts website used to have a &quot;price per wear&quot; calculator that I found very useful with tweens &amp; young teens - okay, you want $120 shoes. How often would wear them? How much would that be per day of wear? So maybe the $120 gym shoes for everyday school wear are worth it but $120 shoes for Prom aren&#039;t.

My 6 year old gets the difference between price per ounce and price per package at the grocery store, and we do the math to compare sale prices on name brands vs. generics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Girl Scounts website used to have a &#8220;price per wear&#8221; calculator that I found very useful with tweens &amp; young teens &#8211; okay, you want $120 shoes. How often would wear them? How much would that be per day of wear? So maybe the $120 gym shoes for everyday school wear are worth it but $120 shoes for Prom aren&#8217;t.</p>
<p>My 6 year old gets the difference between price per ounce and price per package at the grocery store, and we do the math to compare sale prices on name brands vs. generics.</p>
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		<title>By: First+Step</title>
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		<dc:creator>First+Step</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2011 22:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry that you and your daughter didn&#039;t have a good experience. A good leader makes all of the difference in the world. Girl Scouts here wear vests or sashes at all official events, and the troop/council will help the kids who can&#039;t afford to buy them. So in this case, they are visible when doing service projects in the community. The girls don&#039;t have the wear the shirts/pants/skirts/hats that were required when I was a kid, just a white top and khaki bottoms that many will already have or be able to wear at other times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry that you and your daughter didn&#8217;t have a good experience. A good leader makes all of the difference in the world. Girl Scouts here wear vests or sashes at all official events, and the troop/council will help the kids who can&#8217;t afford to buy them. So in this case, they are visible when doing service projects in the community. The girls don&#8217;t have the wear the shirts/pants/skirts/hats that were required when I was a kid, just a white top and khaki bottoms that many will already have or be able to wear at other times.</p>
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		<title>By: jack</title>
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		<dc:creator>jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2011 18:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We just recently started marble jars. 3 kids (6yo, 4yo twins). They get marbles when they do their chores. Although not exactly the same as savings and spending however they see things (marbles) grow. When they hit a certain mark, 5,10, 15,20 so on they get a prize. We are hoping that this translates into earning, saving and spending money. Also it is interesting which ones &quot;get it&quot; and which one have a harder time.  

I also believe that leading buy example is going to be a great lesson. We cant always get what we want.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We just recently started marble jars. 3 kids (6yo, 4yo twins). They get marbles when they do their chores. Although not exactly the same as savings and spending however they see things (marbles) grow. When they hit a certain mark, 5,10, 15,20 so on they get a prize. We are hoping that this translates into earning, saving and spending money. Also it is interesting which ones &#8220;get it&#8221; and which one have a harder time.  </p>
<p>I also believe that leading buy example is going to be a great lesson. We cant always get what we want.</p>
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		<title>By: Trina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2011 17:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We do the same &quot;Spend/Save/Give&quot; system with my 6 yo dd.  Frankly, it seems to work almost *too* well.  When she has money in her &quot;spend&quot; jar she can&#039;t wait to spend it, and a couple of trips have been ruined because she was so fixated on finding something to buy with $6 - $7 that she ignored everything fun about the place or activity we were doing.

BTW, I am also a Girl Scout leader for my dd&#039;s troop.  A couple of weeks ago we took a tour of a nearby Wildlife Rehabilitation Center and each girl was to bring a small donation to the Center.  Not only did our family donate some small items they needed, but my dd also made a card for them and put $13 from her &quot;Give&quot; jar in the card.  She was so proud to know that she was helping them take care of the animals!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We do the same &#8220;Spend/Save/Give&#8221; system with my 6 yo dd.  Frankly, it seems to work almost *too* well.  When she has money in her &#8220;spend&#8221; jar she can&#8217;t wait to spend it, and a couple of trips have been ruined because she was so fixated on finding something to buy with $6 &#8211; $7 that she ignored everything fun about the place or activity we were doing.</p>
<p>BTW, I am also a Girl Scout leader for my dd&#8217;s troop.  A couple of weeks ago we took a tour of a nearby Wildlife Rehabilitation Center and each girl was to bring a small donation to the Center.  Not only did our family donate some small items they needed, but my dd also made a card for them and put $13 from her &#8220;Give&#8221; jar in the card.  She was so proud to know that she was helping them take care of the animals!</p>
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		<title>By: Bill at FamZoo</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2011/10/20/an-early-education-in-financial-literacy/comment-page-1/#comment-1918732</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill at FamZoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2011 13:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome to see financial literacy badges for Girl Scouts. Running your own systematic Bank of Mom/Dad is a great way for parents to teach their kids sound money habits in a way that is consistent with your specific family values. My favorite book on the topic is &quot;The First National Bank of Dad&quot; by David Owen (works for Moms too!).

Cheers,
Bill</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome to see financial literacy badges for Girl Scouts. Running your own systematic Bank of Mom/Dad is a great way for parents to teach their kids sound money habits in a way that is consistent with your specific family values. My favorite book on the topic is &#8220;The First National Bank of Dad&#8221; by David Owen (works for Moms too!).</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Bill</p>
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		<title>By: Lori+Blatzheim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lori+Blatzheim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2011 10:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi April,

I think your piece is &quot;pure gold.&quot; It alerts us to what is happening in the world of raising children. I appreciated the web sites you included and explored some of them. Hello everyone. Do you want your children to succeed in life? Get them started on the path to financial literacy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi April,</p>
<p>I think your piece is &#8220;pure gold.&#8221; It alerts us to what is happening in the world of raising children. I appreciated the web sites you included and explored some of them. Hello everyone. Do you want your children to succeed in life? Get them started on the path to financial literacy!</p>
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		<title>By: bemoneyaware</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2011/10/20/an-early-education-in-financial-literacy/comment-page-1/#comment-1917712</link>
		<dc:creator>bemoneyaware</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2011 03:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If you educate a boy,you educate an individual but if you educate a girl,you educate the whole nation&quot;. Well written article highlighting that women need to take control of their financial life and need not be financially dependent on others!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If you educate a boy,you educate an individual but if you educate a girl,you educate the whole nation&#8221;. Well written article highlighting that women need to take control of their financial life and need not be financially dependent on others!</p>
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		<title>By: Linda</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2011/10/20/an-early-education-in-financial-literacy/comment-page-1/#comment-1917702</link>
		<dc:creator>Linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2011 03:14:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This emphasis on cookies and &quot;leadership&quot; is why my daughter and I left GS.  There was always a financial literacy cojmponent, now the girls are being turned into little business nazis - primarily concerned with selling cookies to raise money (ostensibly for themselves but troops get less than 15% of the sale price).  Used to be money was a part of the program.  And to teh above poster - &quot;no uniform but pins&quot; means no public identity and will help lead to the demise of the program.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This emphasis on cookies and &#8220;leadership&#8221; is why my daughter and I left GS.  There was always a financial literacy cojmponent, now the girls are being turned into little business nazis &#8211; primarily concerned with selling cookies to raise money (ostensibly for themselves but troops get less than 15% of the sale price).  Used to be money was a part of the program.  And to teh above poster &#8211; &#8220;no uniform but pins&#8221; means no public identity and will help lead to the demise of the program.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2011 01:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a great article; I too liked the corollary between financial literacy and the power to break free from abuse.

One thing I&#039;m seeing in many of the readers&#039; replies is that parents need to teach financial literacy to their kids.  I say, yes, but...it still needs to be taught in schools.  To assume parents CAN teach financial literacy is like assuming parents can teach higher math: some can, a lot can&#039;t.

I&#039;ve been requesting that my son&#039;s high school think about offering even a one-shot class/talk/seminar on personal finance.  So far, there&#039;s no interest in doing so - &quot;the parents can teach that.&quot;  Despite the fact that 50% of the students qualify for low-income breakfasts &amp; lunches.

I&#039;m not sure how you can break a cycle of getting into debt/modern indentured servitude if you ask the people who don&#039;t know how to do so to teach it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great article; I too liked the corollary between financial literacy and the power to break free from abuse.</p>
<p>One thing I&#8217;m seeing in many of the readers&#8217; replies is that parents need to teach financial literacy to their kids.  I say, yes, but&#8230;it still needs to be taught in schools.  To assume parents CAN teach financial literacy is like assuming parents can teach higher math: some can, a lot can&#8217;t.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been requesting that my son&#8217;s high school think about offering even a one-shot class/talk/seminar on personal finance.  So far, there&#8217;s no interest in doing so &#8211; &#8220;the parents can teach that.&#8221;  Despite the fact that 50% of the students qualify for low-income breakfasts &amp; lunches.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure how you can break a cycle of getting into debt/modern indentured servitude if you ask the people who don&#8217;t know how to do so to teach it.</p>
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		<title>By: Squirrelers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Squirrelers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2011 01:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Financial literacy for the young is very important. Too many people get into trouble when they get to be adults because they didn&#039;t learn basics when younger. As a parent to a child in girl scouts, I was glad to see the inital part of this post. Thanks for sharing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Financial literacy for the young is very important. Too many people get into trouble when they get to be adults because they didn&#8217;t learn basics when younger. As a parent to a child in girl scouts, I was glad to see the inital part of this post. Thanks for sharing.</p>
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		<title>By: Lyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2011 22:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can always buy some Thin Mints!  It&#039;s a win-win in my book :)</description>
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		<title>By: Mega Educational Resources</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mega Educational Resources</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2011 21:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Starting a person&#039;s financial education early is important.  Kids need to understand what money is and what role it will play in their lives.  Knowing how to value and manage money will be invaluable skills for kids to acquire, especially since the economy is so unpredictable. Kids need to understand how to build credit, use budgets and how to plan for their financial future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Starting a person&#8217;s financial education early is important.  Kids need to understand what money is and what role it will play in their lives.  Knowing how to value and manage money will be invaluable skills for kids to acquire, especially since the economy is so unpredictable. Kids need to understand how to build credit, use budgets and how to plan for their financial future.</p>
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		<title>By: Bella</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2011 20:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article - I think one of your KEY takeaways is how financial literacy (and independance) can help protect from a myriad of social injustices. the make your own badge isn&#039;t new - they had that one when I was in Girl Scouts (and it was a LONG time ago). tehy also had a beauty badge and a statistics badge, really diverse options, hopefully when my daughter gets there the same fun options will be there for her too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article &#8211; I think one of your KEY takeaways is how financial literacy (and independance) can help protect from a myriad of social injustices. the make your own badge isn&#8217;t new &#8211; they had that one when I was in Girl Scouts (and it was a LONG time ago). tehy also had a beauty badge and a statistics badge, really diverse options, hopefully when my daughter gets there the same fun options will be there for her too.</p>
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		<title>By: JP</title>
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		<dc:creator>JP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2011 19:33:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>April - 

Thanks for your post.  Many of the ideas you present are spot on.  I am a huge fan of increased financial education for women.  There isn&#039;t enough of it.  We need more. 

In particular I like the focus on early childhood education.  It seems that most habits that sustain the test of time are instilled during one&#039;s young years (e.g., progressive public education reform particularly focuses on this time).   

I also like how there are 13 separate badges within personal finance.  Personal finance is a discipline and requires several different areas of expertise. This is the right way to break it up.  

I disagree however that this is the full solution.  More is needed.  Education alone has failed for decades in changing American&#039;s  habits with money (e.g., 401k participation rates).  

Additional areas to focus on include:
- systems and automation of personal finance 
- psychology &amp; its roll in effective financial discipline 
- corporate advertising and its role in personal finance

It&#039;s an important point that financial education has in many respects failed for years.  Yes, it hasn&#039;t necessarily been instituted in our schools, but messages like &quot;invest in your retirement&quot; have been shouted from the mountain tops by the Government and large banks for years.  The result has been less than stellar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>April &#8211; </p>
<p>Thanks for your post.  Many of the ideas you present are spot on.  I am a huge fan of increased financial education for women.  There isn&#8217;t enough of it.  We need more. </p>
<p>In particular I like the focus on early childhood education.  It seems that most habits that sustain the test of time are instilled during one&#8217;s young years (e.g., progressive public education reform particularly focuses on this time).   </p>
<p>I also like how there are 13 separate badges within personal finance.  Personal finance is a discipline and requires several different areas of expertise. This is the right way to break it up.  </p>
<p>I disagree however that this is the full solution.  More is needed.  Education alone has failed for decades in changing American&#8217;s  habits with money (e.g., 401k participation rates).  </p>
<p>Additional areas to focus on include:<br />
- systems and automation of personal finance<br />
- psychology &amp; its roll in effective financial discipline<br />
- corporate advertising and its role in personal finance</p>
<p>It&#8217;s an important point that financial education has in many respects failed for years.  Yes, it hasn&#8217;t necessarily been instituted in our schools, but messages like &#8220;invest in your retirement&#8221; have been shouted from the mountain tops by the Government and large banks for years.  The result has been less than stellar.</p>
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		<title>By: Krantcents</title>
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		<dc:creator>Krantcents</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2011 19:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My daughter was in Girl Scouts.  She was a Mariner scout and achieved her Gold Award (equivalent to Eagle Scout).  I attribute a lot of what she learned in scouting to her success in life.  I wish, she had some of these new opportunities.  
I involved both of my children in my businesses, daily life and investments
  I encouraged savings as the cornerstone for personal finance.  They told as a dults that they learned much more from my wife and I as role models.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My daughter was in Girl Scouts.  She was a Mariner scout and achieved her Gold Award (equivalent to Eagle Scout).  I attribute a lot of what she learned in scouting to her success in life.  I wish, she had some of these new opportunities.<br />
I involved both of my children in my businesses, daily life and investments<br />
  I encouraged savings as the cornerstone for personal finance.  They told as a dults that they learned much more from my wife and I as role models.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarabeth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2011 19:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha!  I also second-guess my parents&#039; choice to send me to a fancy private school where all of my friends&#039; parents made way more than my own parents&#039; (upper-middle-class) salaries).  It was a great education, but an odd experience socially.  I actually think it left me very frugal precisely because I spent a lot of time feeling poor despite actually leading a very comfortable life!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha!  I also second-guess my parents&#8217; choice to send me to a fancy private school where all of my friends&#8217; parents made way more than my own parents&#8217; (upper-middle-class) salaries).  It was a great education, but an odd experience socially.  I actually think it left me very frugal precisely because I spent a lot of time feeling poor despite actually leading a very comfortable life!</p>
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		<title>By: Liz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2011 19:00:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a girl scout leader and can tell you from first hand experience that we had girls from all walks of life in our troop - from families with means and from families without means. We told our parents at the very first orientation meeting that our policy was to help the girls figure out what THEY wanted to do and how THEY would do that, without going home and asking for money. Our girls used the Fall Product sale and the Girl Scout Cookie sale to raise funds each year - enough funds to take themselves (4th and 5th graders) on wonderful adventures - one year all the way from central PA to Assateague Island, and other years to Washington DC. We&#039;d stay with friends or camp, always looking for ways to do things inexpensively. Talk about developing pride and a belief in themselves! Many of the parents loved to see their daughters have these opportunities, especially if they couldn&#039;t have afforded it for the whole family. 

Girl Scouts is a wonderful organization, and has been doing a fantastic job lately of trying to stay current while not losing its history and ideals. Happy 100 year anniversary, Girl Scouts!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a girl scout leader and can tell you from first hand experience that we had girls from all walks of life in our troop &#8211; from families with means and from families without means. We told our parents at the very first orientation meeting that our policy was to help the girls figure out what THEY wanted to do and how THEY would do that, without going home and asking for money. Our girls used the Fall Product sale and the Girl Scout Cookie sale to raise funds each year &#8211; enough funds to take themselves (4th and 5th graders) on wonderful adventures &#8211; one year all the way from central PA to Assateague Island, and other years to Washington DC. We&#8217;d stay with friends or camp, always looking for ways to do things inexpensively. Talk about developing pride and a belief in themselves! Many of the parents loved to see their daughters have these opportunities, especially if they couldn&#8217;t have afforded it for the whole family. </p>
<p>Girl Scouts is a wonderful organization, and has been doing a fantastic job lately of trying to stay current while not losing its history and ideals. Happy 100 year anniversary, Girl Scouts!</p>
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		<title>By: phoenix</title>
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		<dc:creator>phoenix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2011 18:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree that financial literacy is not necesary for the very young.  Actually Sesame Street recently started promoting financial literacy for the young as well. I already had my children watch it.   www.sesamestreet.org/save  We use the &quot;envelope system&quot; and have since they were 4 (&quot;save&quot;/&quot;spend&quot;/&quot;Give&quot;).  Now my children (8 and 5) actually have a budget and have to plan and budget their own b-day parties.  It really helps them learn the value of money and how to make choices.  

In terms of high school lessons, my husband teaches high school and it is sad how little high schoolers understand--VERY few parents sit their children down when they  do the bills so the children have very unrealistic expectations when they graduate college.  Since my husband teaches computers, in teaching them spreadsheets, he makes them plan a budget for when they graduate college, having them research the salary from their chosen career, the payments for a car/house, and all other expenses, working with their parents to make sure all expenses are factored in.  Then, after they have it together, he corrects the salary to reflect a starting salary (very few students start with a starting salary and look to an average in their field) so the students have to re-do their work.  Then, he provides them with a tax table, and suddenly, the kids realize that the lifestyle they are currently experience (by living with parents that have an established career for 15 year or more) is very different from your lifestyle when you first start out. Kids actually need this education before high school becauseonce you hit high school, everything counts toward college.  Kids that learn this lesson in their second or third year of high school have lost out on lots of valueable options, including options of getting college credit for high school classes. One needs to know where they are going before the journey begins or it costs more and takes longer to get there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree that financial literacy is not necesary for the very young.  Actually Sesame Street recently started promoting financial literacy for the young as well. I already had my children watch it.   <a href="http://www.sesamestreet.org/save" rel="nofollow">http://www.sesamestreet.org/save</a>  We use the &#8220;envelope system&#8221; and have since they were 4 (&#8220;save&#8221;/&#8221;spend&#8221;/&#8221;Give&#8221;).  Now my children (8 and 5) actually have a budget and have to plan and budget their own b-day parties.  It really helps them learn the value of money and how to make choices.  </p>
<p>In terms of high school lessons, my husband teaches high school and it is sad how little high schoolers understand&#8211;VERY few parents sit their children down when they  do the bills so the children have very unrealistic expectations when they graduate college.  Since my husband teaches computers, in teaching them spreadsheets, he makes them plan a budget for when they graduate college, having them research the salary from their chosen career, the payments for a car/house, and all other expenses, working with their parents to make sure all expenses are factored in.  Then, after they have it together, he corrects the salary to reflect a starting salary (very few students start with a starting salary and look to an average in their field) so the students have to re-do their work.  Then, he provides them with a tax table, and suddenly, the kids realize that the lifestyle they are currently experience (by living with parents that have an established career for 15 year or more) is very different from your lifestyle when you first start out. Kids actually need this education before high school becauseonce you hit high school, everything counts toward college.  Kids that learn this lesson in their second or third year of high school have lost out on lots of valueable options, including options of getting college credit for high school classes. One needs to know where they are going before the journey begins or it costs more and takes longer to get there.</p>
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		<title>By: Becky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Becky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2011 18:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good for you! 

I wish I&#039;d had control over the amount of money my family spent on my clothing when I was a teenager, rather than just getting clothes when my mom felt like shopping for them. 

Nothing teaches a person how to make good decisions like making lots of them and living with the consequences!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good for you! </p>
<p>I wish I&#8217;d had control over the amount of money my family spent on my clothing when I was a teenager, rather than just getting clothes when my mom felt like shopping for them. </p>
<p>Nothing teaches a person how to make good decisions like making lots of them and living with the consequences!</p>
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		<title>By: Becky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Becky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2011 18:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My parents managed their money very well, and talked the talk, but they did not *show* us how they managed their money. I think they were either afraid that we&#039;d argue with their choices, or that we&#039;d tell someone (the neighbors?) how much money my dad made, or something.

As a result, I had some weird ideas about money growing up. My dad is an engineer, and I thought that engineering was a poorly paid profession because we lived in a cheaper  neighborhood than all of my classmates at our expensive private school. My mom drove an older Ford instead of my classmates&#039; moms&#039; late-model Mercedeses, BMWs, etc. We didn&#039;t belong to a country club or go on ski vacations. So I (and my friends) thought my family was poor!

If my parents had been more open about money and their choices, I would have seen just how much they were spending to send us to that school, how much they were putting aside for retirement (I have zero worries that I will have to take care of them in their old age), and how they didn&#039;t waste money on interest payments for expensive toys and trips, but instead paid cash for good-value cars, dance and music lessons for us, etc. 

Today I believe the expensive school wasn&#039;t worth it - it gave me a very skewed idea of how much money was &quot;enough&quot; and how &quot;normal&quot; people live. But in general, I have a huge amount of respect for my parents&#039; choices, and wish I&#039;d known enough to *understand* them sooner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My parents managed their money very well, and talked the talk, but they did not *show* us how they managed their money. I think they were either afraid that we&#8217;d argue with their choices, or that we&#8217;d tell someone (the neighbors?) how much money my dad made, or something.</p>
<p>As a result, I had some weird ideas about money growing up. My dad is an engineer, and I thought that engineering was a poorly paid profession because we lived in a cheaper  neighborhood than all of my classmates at our expensive private school. My mom drove an older Ford instead of my classmates&#8217; moms&#8217; late-model Mercedeses, BMWs, etc. We didn&#8217;t belong to a country club or go on ski vacations. So I (and my friends) thought my family was poor!</p>
<p>If my parents had been more open about money and their choices, I would have seen just how much they were spending to send us to that school, how much they were putting aside for retirement (I have zero worries that I will have to take care of them in their old age), and how they didn&#8217;t waste money on interest payments for expensive toys and trips, but instead paid cash for good-value cars, dance and music lessons for us, etc. </p>
<p>Today I believe the expensive school wasn&#8217;t worth it &#8211; it gave me a very skewed idea of how much money was &#8220;enough&#8221; and how &#8220;normal&#8221; people live. But in general, I have a huge amount of respect for my parents&#8217; choices, and wish I&#8217;d known enough to *understand* them sooner.</p>
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		<title>By: Mom of five</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mom of five</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2011 18:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually agree with you completely which I suppose means I worded myself pretty poorly in my initial post.    I do think it&#039;s important for parents to convey to their kids a healthy sense of money management.    I was more talking about how I don&#039;t think formal money training for very young kids is necessary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually agree with you completely which I suppose means I worded myself pretty poorly in my initial post.    I do think it&#8217;s important for parents to convey to their kids a healthy sense of money management.    I was more talking about how I don&#8217;t think formal money training for very young kids is necessary.</p>
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		<title>By: Becky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Becky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2011 18:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s very interesting. It shows how &quot;credit&quot; is really a kind of reputation. Certainly the less money/earning power you have, the more important your reputation is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s very interesting. It shows how &#8220;credit&#8221; is really a kind of reputation. Certainly the less money/earning power you have, the more important your reputation is.</p>
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		<title>By: First+Step</title>
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		<dc:creator>First+Step</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2011 17:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please check with the Girl Scouts council in your area. There isn&#039;t a required uniform anymore, just pins that the troop provides, and scholarships are available for needy girls who can&#039;t afford the dues ($12/year in our council). The leaders will work with the council to get the girls vests or sashes for their badges and patches.

Men and women can be leaders/volunteers, and Girl Scouts doesn&#039;t discriminate. My older daughter had a lesbian leader who had adopted special needs kids with her partner, and their girls were part of the troop. Girl Scouting is for all girls! 2012 is the 100th anniversary year--see how you can help girls get involved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please check with the Girl Scouts council in your area. There isn&#8217;t a required uniform anymore, just pins that the troop provides, and scholarships are available for needy girls who can&#8217;t afford the dues ($12/year in our council). The leaders will work with the council to get the girls vests or sashes for their badges and patches.</p>
<p>Men and women can be leaders/volunteers, and Girl Scouts doesn&#8217;t discriminate. My older daughter had a lesbian leader who had adopted special needs kids with her partner, and their girls were part of the troop. Girl Scouting is for all girls! 2012 is the 100th anniversary year&#8211;see how you can help girls get involved.</p>
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		<title>By: First+Step</title>
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		<dc:creator>First+Step</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2011 17:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I opened checking accounts with my daughters at our credit union when they turned 13. They use debit cards, and my older daughter occasionally writes checks for dues or other school/activity fees. Each year they&#039;ll be responsible for more of their own expenses, so they&#039;ll be ready for college and living on their own.

My older daughter is already learning about trade-offs, and she recently decided to skip the next 2 chorus trips (she earns money for trips through fundraisers and babysitting) so she can go on a school-sponsored trip to Germany in 2013 instead.

I hope that the lessons in their teenage years will keep them from overspending and out of debt for the rest of their lives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I opened checking accounts with my daughters at our credit union when they turned 13. They use debit cards, and my older daughter occasionally writes checks for dues or other school/activity fees. Each year they&#8217;ll be responsible for more of their own expenses, so they&#8217;ll be ready for college and living on their own.</p>
<p>My older daughter is already learning about trade-offs, and she recently decided to skip the next 2 chorus trips (she earns money for trips through fundraisers and babysitting) so she can go on a school-sponsored trip to Germany in 2013 instead.</p>
<p>I hope that the lessons in their teenage years will keep them from overspending and out of debt for the rest of their lives.</p>
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		<title>By: SB @ One Cent At A Time</title>
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		<dc:creator>SB @ One Cent At A Time</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2011 17:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You ditto my sentiments El</description>
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