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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2011/12/13/avoiding-competitive-shopping-for-fun-and-profit/comment-page-1/#comment-2345802</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2012 22:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent thoughts. I also think that this can apply to food shopping, it&#039;s best to avoid food shopping when hungry. Creating a list (i.e. a plan) is always the best option for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent thoughts. I also think that this can apply to food shopping, it&#8217;s best to avoid food shopping when hungry. Creating a list (i.e. a plan) is always the best option for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie Gaudet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie Gaudet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2011 03:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t deny that there is a sense of excitement that runs through me when I buy something on sale.  This is a deep routed goal that was set unconsciously when we were young by my parents trying to detract us as kids asking for everything we could get our hands on at the store.  That being said we as adults are molding this thought process to be excited when we get something that we need and its on sale :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t deny that there is a sense of excitement that runs through me when I buy something on sale.  This is a deep routed goal that was set unconsciously when we were young by my parents trying to detract us as kids asking for everything we could get our hands on at the store.  That being said we as adults are molding this thought process to be excited when we get something that we need and its on sale <img src='http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2011 06:12:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Something else I&#039;ve found: By constantly keeping track of sales and ads at the places I like to shop and the things I like to buy, I KNOW what is a good deal. Some BF sales aren&#039;t any better than the quarterly deals you can get throughout the year. Some are fantastic. I&#039;ve also found that because I am constantly inundated with advertising from the sales flyers, emails, and paid surveys, I get pretty desensitized to it all; very jaded. My general spending has dropped by about 50% since I started keeping track of the ads this much. I find I&#039;m less interested in buying something unless I know it&#039;s the best deal I can get, and I can actually use it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something else I&#8217;ve found: By constantly keeping track of sales and ads at the places I like to shop and the things I like to buy, I KNOW what is a good deal. Some BF sales aren&#8217;t any better than the quarterly deals you can get throughout the year. Some are fantastic. I&#8217;ve also found that because I am constantly inundated with advertising from the sales flyers, emails, and paid surveys, I get pretty desensitized to it all; very jaded. My general spending has dropped by about 50% since I started keeping track of the ads this much. I find I&#8217;m less interested in buying something unless I know it&#8217;s the best deal I can get, and I can actually use it.</p>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2011 06:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree with you on so many counts here. First off, you can&#039;t make a list of stuff to buy for christmas and THEN look at the ads--at best, set a budget and stick to it. But more importantly if you never look at the ads, you&#039;ll never know if something is on sale that you&#039;ve been wanting. As someone who never buys anything at &quot;full price,&quot; ads are what helps me buy the things I need. 

* One year the 4 year old asked for a Barbie car (the kind you can ride in)--they&#039;re $500, no way she was getting it. Until I saw a red Hot Wheels car in a Black Friday ad for $75. $75 for the car and $5 for some Barbie stickers, WHOA look at that, $80 for that car that she wanted and I could get it for her, even though it wasn&#039;t on my list. Need? No, but it was better than $80 in clothes (which she really didn&#039;t need) like her dad was going to get her.

* Getting frustrated by toasting our bread in the oven (or worse, grilling it in butter) because we didn&#039;t have a toaster, but hadn&#039;t seen one at the thrift store yet. Got a 4-slice toaster with bagel button and cancel button for under $20 on Black Friday, normally 2-slicers with less than the requirements cost more than that. Wouldn&#039;t have been out on BF if it weren&#039;t for that, only got the one thing then went back home for breakfast. 

* This year, our vacuum was dying. As someone with serious allergies and major money problems right now, this was an issue. A vacuum was getting purchased whether we could afford it or not, but at least BF sales allowed us to get a decent one for cheap. 

PS folks, try making cookies in your waffle iron. It means you can make a couple at a time, which seriously helps keep you from over-eating. Also, they&#039;re amazing. 

I&#039;ve also seen recipes for cheese-chips in waffle irons, as well as hash browns... I mean really, just Google for recipes for things to make in the waffle iron. Amazing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree with you on so many counts here. First off, you can&#8217;t make a list of stuff to buy for christmas and THEN look at the ads&#8211;at best, set a budget and stick to it. But more importantly if you never look at the ads, you&#8217;ll never know if something is on sale that you&#8217;ve been wanting. As someone who never buys anything at &#8220;full price,&#8221; ads are what helps me buy the things I need. </p>
<p>* One year the 4 year old asked for a Barbie car (the kind you can ride in)&#8211;they&#8217;re $500, no way she was getting it. Until I saw a red Hot Wheels car in a Black Friday ad for $75. $75 for the car and $5 for some Barbie stickers, WHOA look at that, $80 for that car that she wanted and I could get it for her, even though it wasn&#8217;t on my list. Need? No, but it was better than $80 in clothes (which she really didn&#8217;t need) like her dad was going to get her.</p>
<p>* Getting frustrated by toasting our bread in the oven (or worse, grilling it in butter) because we didn&#8217;t have a toaster, but hadn&#8217;t seen one at the thrift store yet. Got a 4-slice toaster with bagel button and cancel button for under $20 on Black Friday, normally 2-slicers with less than the requirements cost more than that. Wouldn&#8217;t have been out on BF if it weren&#8217;t for that, only got the one thing then went back home for breakfast. </p>
<p>* This year, our vacuum was dying. As someone with serious allergies and major money problems right now, this was an issue. A vacuum was getting purchased whether we could afford it or not, but at least BF sales allowed us to get a decent one for cheap. </p>
<p>PS folks, try making cookies in your waffle iron. It means you can make a couple at a time, which seriously helps keep you from over-eating. Also, they&#8217;re amazing. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve also seen recipes for cheese-chips in waffle irons, as well as hash browns&#8230; I mean really, just Google for recipes for things to make in the waffle iron. Amazing.</p>
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		<title>By: Amber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 22:02:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jane, where do you look for these jobs? I am interested. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jane, where do you look for these jobs? I am interested. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Amber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 21:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am totally like Nicole with my spending. If I have cash in hand, then Oh I might as well stop at the farmer&#039;s market and buy that awesome chocolate milk at $8/gal, then oh I do love that necklace, maybe I could give it as a gift, of course I need a cupcake  ... and on and on and on. The money is gone. 

When I shop on my card, I think about the purchase more and I realize that I am inconveniencing the business owner to process the card, so I try to spend enough to make it worth their while (unless it is a big chain like mcdonalds that won&#039;t notice). This means I buy less incidental things that will be forgotten. Online shipping costs have the same effect for me too. I rarely will buy just 1 thing to have shipped to me. If I can&#039;t find anything else on that site, I just won&#039;t get it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am totally like Nicole with my spending. If I have cash in hand, then Oh I might as well stop at the farmer&#8217;s market and buy that awesome chocolate milk at $8/gal, then oh I do love that necklace, maybe I could give it as a gift, of course I need a cupcake  &#8230; and on and on and on. The money is gone. </p>
<p>When I shop on my card, I think about the purchase more and I realize that I am inconveniencing the business owner to process the card, so I try to spend enough to make it worth their while (unless it is a big chain like mcdonalds that won&#8217;t notice). This means I buy less incidental things that will be forgotten. Online shipping costs have the same effect for me too. I rarely will buy just 1 thing to have shipped to me. If I can&#8217;t find anything else on that site, I just won&#8217;t get it.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 16:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a credit card study as after much searching I found the actual study abstract.  I&#039;ve never found a study comparing debit card spending to cash or credit cards and I would really like to see one.  

Here is the recent credit card study abstract http://www.jstor.org/pss/10.1086/661730

Self study is important, I&#039;m one who spent more with credit cards even though I always paid it off.  Debit cards work for us b/c we limit the amount of money available to spend on the debit card through our allowance system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a credit card study as after much searching I found the actual study abstract.  I&#8217;ve never found a study comparing debit card spending to cash or credit cards and I would really like to see one.  </p>
<p>Here is the recent credit card study abstract <a href="http://www.jstor.org/pss/10.1086/661730" rel="nofollow">http://www.jstor.org/pss/10.1086/661730</a></p>
<p>Self study is important, I&#8217;m one who spent more with credit cards even though I always paid it off.  Debit cards work for us b/c we limit the amount of money available to spend on the debit card through our allowance system.</p>
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		<title>By: cc</title>
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		<dc:creator>cc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 15:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>momma and i totally did the black friday lunch while the men were hiding from the madness at home! good times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>momma and i totally did the black friday lunch while the men were hiding from the madness at home! good times.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacq</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 14:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I make a decent waffle as follows:
500 g. non fat cottage cheese
4 eggs
6 T oat OR wheat bran
4 T splenda
1/8 c. flour
cinnamon - maybe a tsp?
1/3 tsp salt
1/2 tsp baking powder

Blend it all up.

Also make one with 1 scoop vanilla protein powder + 2.5 egg whites + 1/2 tsp baking powder - very dry for sure but it&#039;s all in the service of building muscle.

Best (lower carb) topping I&#039;ve tried is:
2 tsp low fat cream cheese
1-2 tsp vanilla flavored yogurt
1 tsp cool whip</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I make a decent waffle as follows:<br />
500 g. non fat cottage cheese<br />
4 eggs<br />
6 T oat OR wheat bran<br />
4 T splenda<br />
1/8 c. flour<br />
cinnamon &#8211; maybe a tsp?<br />
1/3 tsp salt<br />
1/2 tsp baking powder</p>
<p>Blend it all up.</p>
<p>Also make one with 1 scoop vanilla protein powder + 2.5 egg whites + 1/2 tsp baking powder &#8211; very dry for sure but it&#8217;s all in the service of building muscle.</p>
<p>Best (lower carb) topping I&#8217;ve tried is:<br />
2 tsp low fat cream cheese<br />
1-2 tsp vanilla flavored yogurt<br />
1 tsp cool whip</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elizabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 12:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know that&#039;s often the case with Boxing Day sales here in Canada. Hit the stores and you&#039;ll find cheap goods the stores didn&#039;t have before Christmas.

That could be a good thing or a bad thing, depending on your perspective. I know people who go to boxing day sales to pick up items (clothing, yarn for blankets, etc) for charity, and the sales really can make your budget go farther.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know that&#8217;s often the case with Boxing Day sales here in Canada. Hit the stores and you&#8217;ll find cheap goods the stores didn&#8217;t have before Christmas.</p>
<p>That could be a good thing or a bad thing, depending on your perspective. I know people who go to boxing day sales to pick up items (clothing, yarn for blankets, etc) for charity, and the sales really can make your budget go farther.</p>
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		<title>By: Tippy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tippy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 12:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, recipe please :)

Would love to have something like this on hand for my husband to just pop in the toaster!</description>
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<p>Would love to have something like this on hand for my husband to just pop in the toaster!</p>
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		<title>By: thefrugallery</title>
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		<dc:creator>thefrugallery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 12:28:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, I picket Black Friday shopping.  It always amazes me what people will spend their time and money on.  They are so fixated on what they have saved that they ignore how much they have spent.  They go in for one thing and buy ten more because they are a &quot;good deal.&quot;  Any savings are quickly erased with impulse purchases.  The best way to stay on track with savings is just to avoid them altogether.  Shop year round on the clearance racks and you&#039;ll have everything you need by next Christmas (at a much lower price!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I picket Black Friday shopping.  It always amazes me what people will spend their time and money on.  They are so fixated on what they have saved that they ignore how much they have spent.  They go in for one thing and buy ten more because they are a &#8220;good deal.&#8221;  Any savings are quickly erased with impulse purchases.  The best way to stay on track with savings is just to avoid them altogether.  Shop year round on the clearance racks and you&#8217;ll have everything you need by next Christmas (at a much lower price!)</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 08:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I just keep reminding myself that there’s always going to be another sale. No need to feel pressured to buy something until I’ve thought it through.&quot;

Great point. No need to pressure yourself into spending money. Something better or equally as good will come along if you miss an opportunity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I just keep reminding myself that there’s always going to be another sale. No need to feel pressured to buy something until I’ve thought it through.&#8221;</p>
<p>Great point. No need to pressure yourself into spending money. Something better or equally as good will come along if you miss an opportunity.</p>
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		<title>By: Shauna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shauna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 06:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve kind of always assumed that Black Friday was the day when retailers can easily dump stuff that doesn&#039;t sell particularly well otherwise (like waffle irons), by bringing the price down a little bit and relying on people fooling themselves that they have to buy it NOW, because tomorrow it won&#039;t be available at that price.  I&#039;ve tried the suggestions of shopping for what you already need, but it seems like that stuff is never on sale. I also tried looking at the online deals, but inevitably the things, models, styles I was interested in were not the things marked down. Then again, I usually only look online because the thought of going to the stores and facing the hoardes of people makes me feel slightly ill...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve kind of always assumed that Black Friday was the day when retailers can easily dump stuff that doesn&#8217;t sell particularly well otherwise (like waffle irons), by bringing the price down a little bit and relying on people fooling themselves that they have to buy it NOW, because tomorrow it won&#8217;t be available at that price.  I&#8217;ve tried the suggestions of shopping for what you already need, but it seems like that stuff is never on sale. I also tried looking at the online deals, but inevitably the things, models, styles I was interested in were not the things marked down. Then again, I usually only look online because the thought of going to the stores and facing the hoardes of people makes me feel slightly ill&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 06:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I support using debit cards, too. I have a Bank of America checking account and they allow you to set daily limits on your debit card. Just go online and change the limits for withdrawals and purchases. It&#039;s pretty neat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I support using debit cards, too. I have a Bank of America checking account and they allow you to set daily limits on your debit card. Just go online and change the limits for withdrawals and purchases. It&#8217;s pretty neat.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 06:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been told that Black Friday items are manufactured at a lower quality to help price it at such low prices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been told that Black Friday items are manufactured at a lower quality to help price it at such low prices.</p>
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		<title>By: Kay</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2011/12/13/avoiding-competitive-shopping-for-fun-and-profit/comment-page-1/#comment-2092162</link>
		<dc:creator>Kay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 05:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess you&#039;ve never been in a position where you struggled to pay bills, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess you&#8217;ve never been in a position where you struggled to pay bills, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Crystal Stemberger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crystal Stemberger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 05:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those that can&#039;t use real sugar, do the fake ones count?  Ideal works great for waffles and baked goods - doesn&#039;t have a weird taste or anything.  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those that can&#8217;t use real sugar, do the fake ones count?  Ideal works great for waffles and baked goods &#8211; doesn&#8217;t have a weird taste or anything.  <img src='http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: imelda</title>
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		<dc:creator>imelda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 05:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And a lot of people are grateful to have the time off to spend with their families....

But thinking of it your way is much more convenient!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And a lot of people are grateful to have the time off to spend with their families&#8230;.</p>
<p>But thinking of it your way is much more convenient!!</p>
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		<title>By: BB</title>
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		<dc:creator>BB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2011 23:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Every Federal employee has to work on BF; most banks are open, as are doctors&#039; and vets&#039; offices. 
A lot of people are grateful for the opportunity to work and maybe make some extra money (paid holiday pay) on BF.</description>
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A lot of people are grateful for the opportunity to work and maybe make some extra money (paid holiday pay) on BF.</p>
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		<title>By: AFY</title>
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		<dc:creator>AFY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2011 23:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny thing for me is, Black Friday&#039;s actually my prime savings (on purchases) time.  I follow sites like Slickdeals and FatWallet, so I know when things I want are priced low or are featuring a good deal.  Since my primary interests usually revolve around consumer electronics, BF is often a great time to buy those things, since I like to wait until prices drop as low as possible before I buy anything. It&#039;s not uncommmon for me to do most of my personal shopping for a year (as well as some Xmas shopping) on a stomach full of turkey!

tl;dr version - If you&#039;re really disciplined, and wait to splurge when prices are that low (and do most of your shopping online), it&#039;s a good way to practice conscious spending at great prices.  Because if I miss a deal?  Oh well.  Money not spent :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny thing for me is, Black Friday&#8217;s actually my prime savings (on purchases) time.  I follow sites like Slickdeals and FatWallet, so I know when things I want are priced low or are featuring a good deal.  Since my primary interests usually revolve around consumer electronics, BF is often a great time to buy those things, since I like to wait until prices drop as low as possible before I buy anything. It&#8217;s not uncommmon for me to do most of my personal shopping for a year (as well as some Xmas shopping) on a stomach full of turkey!</p>
<p>tl;dr version &#8211; If you&#8217;re really disciplined, and wait to splurge when prices are that low (and do most of your shopping online), it&#8217;s a good way to practice conscious spending at great prices.  Because if I miss a deal?  Oh well.  Money not spent <img src='http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Carla</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2011/12/13/avoiding-competitive-shopping-for-fun-and-profit/comment-page-1/#comment-2090992</link>
		<dc:creator>Carla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2011 22:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@El Nerdo - It depends on the item and brand. Yes, you can buy a family sized crock pot for $40 on Amazon which will probably last longer than a grungy $10 one at a yard-sale.  

But when it comes brands such as Vitamix - where you can buy a $400 blender at a fraction of the cost that will last for decades or Le Creuset cookware that will last a lifetime (I&#039;m into buying things once), its worth it to wait it out and  buy used because the retail price is so high and the used quality is just as good as new.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@El Nerdo &#8211; It depends on the item and brand. Yes, you can buy a family sized crock pot for $40 on Amazon which will probably last longer than a grungy $10 one at a yard-sale.  </p>
<p>But when it comes brands such as Vitamix &#8211; where you can buy a $400 blender at a fraction of the cost that will last for decades or Le Creuset cookware that will last a lifetime (I&#8217;m into buying things once), its worth it to wait it out and  buy used because the retail price is so high and the used quality is just as good as new.</p>
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		<title>By: Beth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2011 22:43:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was disappointed to see Black Friday coming north this year. It&#039;s just a regular week to those of us in Canada, but retailers wanted to stop the bleeding of cross border shopping. I really hope we don&#039;t adopt the same craziness -- then again, all we see on the news here are the extremes.

What&#039;s driving me nuts is all the flash sales. It&#039;s so hard to keep track that I just don&#039;t bother. The good news if that if you miss one sale, competitors seem to offer the same deal at some point.

I just keep reminding myself that there&#039;s always going to be another sale. No need to feel pressured to buy something until I&#039;ve thought it through.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was disappointed to see Black Friday coming north this year. It&#8217;s just a regular week to those of us in Canada, but retailers wanted to stop the bleeding of cross border shopping. I really hope we don&#8217;t adopt the same craziness &#8212; then again, all we see on the news here are the extremes.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s driving me nuts is all the flash sales. It&#8217;s so hard to keep track that I just don&#8217;t bother. The good news if that if you miss one sale, competitors seem to offer the same deal at some point.</p>
<p>I just keep reminding myself that there&#8217;s always going to be another sale. No need to feel pressured to buy something until I&#8217;ve thought it through.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt, Tao of Unfear</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt, Tao of Unfear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2011 22:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, the waffle iron I used belonged to my former roommate. I could totally go for waffles right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, the waffle iron I used belonged to my former roommate. I could totally go for waffles right now.</p>
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		<title>By: El Nerdo</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2011/12/13/avoiding-competitive-shopping-for-fun-and-profit/comment-page-1/#comment-2090842</link>
		<dc:creator>El Nerdo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2011 22:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ah, yes... unfortunately, other people&#039;s grimy and worn-out kitchen wares  have zero appeal to me. yes i know i could save a few bucks, but if that thing ever catches fire in my home i wanna be able to sue the manufacturer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ah, yes&#8230; unfortunately, other people&#8217;s grimy and worn-out kitchen wares  have zero appeal to me. yes i know i could save a few bucks, but if that thing ever catches fire in my home i wanna be able to sue the manufacturer.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt, Tao of Unfear</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt, Tao of Unfear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2011 22:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have never bought anything during Black Friday. However, I do still like to go for the nostalgia—when we were little, we would go every year with our grandmother, in the car by 4am, and get our years supply of socks. Haha.

You did mention making a list of the things you were going to buy, and I did check the Black Friday ads this year for a laptop, since I&#039;m wanting to go mobile (hard with a desktop). Still, I didn&#039;t find anything that met my requirements for price and features, so I didn&#039;t buy anything.

It&#039;s also important what you say about only being able to save money if you don&#039;t spend it. I just wrote a &lt;a href=&quot;http://afford-anything.com/2011/12/12/why-my-small-town-rocks/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;guest post about living in a small town&lt;/a&gt; to avoid the expense of living in the city. Got a mixed reaction, but the point still stands: you can&#039;t save money that you spend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have never bought anything during Black Friday. However, I do still like to go for the nostalgia—when we were little, we would go every year with our grandmother, in the car by 4am, and get our years supply of socks. Haha.</p>
<p>You did mention making a list of the things you were going to buy, and I did check the Black Friday ads this year for a laptop, since I&#8217;m wanting to go mobile (hard with a desktop). Still, I didn&#8217;t find anything that met my requirements for price and features, so I didn&#8217;t buy anything.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also important what you say about only being able to save money if you don&#8217;t spend it. I just wrote a <a href="http://afford-anything.com/2011/12/12/why-my-small-town-rocks/" rel="nofollow">guest post about living in a small town</a> to avoid the expense of living in the city. Got a mixed reaction, but the point still stands: you can&#8217;t save money that you spend.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2011 22:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s probably a recent article by Lowenstein.  He&#039;s been having trouble getting it published, last I heard, because the way he incentivized people to use the card rather than cash involved giving them more money if they used the card instead of cash.  Even though they wouldn&#039;t get that money until later, it still could have made them feel wealthier and thus affected their spending.

In JD&#039;s grey box in that article he links to some other articles that come at the issue in different ways.  None of them are perfect, but they are suggestive.

Another important thing that many of these articles don&#039;t get at is the idea of total spending-- when I have a card, I tend to spend more in one place.  Once I start spending, I spend a lot.  But I don&#039;t often take out the card, and I don&#039;t like to use it for small purchases.  When I have cash it just flows through my fingers, but I only spend small amounts each place.  Which I spend more with depends entirely on how much cash I&#039;m carrying when I carry cash, and the size denominations it&#039;s in (people are reluctant to break large bills).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s probably a recent article by Lowenstein.  He&#8217;s been having trouble getting it published, last I heard, because the way he incentivized people to use the card rather than cash involved giving them more money if they used the card instead of cash.  Even though they wouldn&#8217;t get that money until later, it still could have made them feel wealthier and thus affected their spending.</p>
<p>In JD&#8217;s grey box in that article he links to some other articles that come at the issue in different ways.  None of them are perfect, but they are suggestive.</p>
<p>Another important thing that many of these articles don&#8217;t get at is the idea of total spending&#8211; when I have a card, I tend to spend more in one place.  Once I start spending, I spend a lot.  But I don&#8217;t often take out the card, and I don&#8217;t like to use it for small purchases.  When I have cash it just flows through my fingers, but I only spend small amounts each place.  Which I spend more with depends entirely on how much cash I&#8217;m carrying when I carry cash, and the size denominations it&#8217;s in (people are reluctant to break large bills).</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Marvelous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roy Marvelous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2011 22:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love this term &quot;competitive shopping&quot; because that&#039;s exactly what it is huh? Shopping meets mass hysteria. First things first - what do you need? So what if you can save 90% on an item - you don&#039;t need it, it&#039;s money down the drain anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love this term &#8220;competitive shopping&#8221; because that&#8217;s exactly what it is huh? Shopping meets mass hysteria. First things first &#8211; what do you need? So what if you can save 90% on an item &#8211; you don&#8217;t need it, it&#8217;s money down the drain anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah Gilbert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah Gilbert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2011 22:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>touche! obviously, I have not read all J.D.&#039;s posts in detail. sorry, in this case I *did* take a shortcut and find the first post that vaguely stated my thesis. although I am certain I&#039;ve heard of such studies on NPR -- there was one very recently in which I took mental note that people spent more on debit cards than cash (this was during the debit card fee brouhaha) -- I didn&#039;t have the time to search hard and find the actual study.

Luckily, in this case, I&#039;m quite certain -- after serious self-study -- that I do spend more money when I have my debit card as opposed to bringing cash. I have done test cases in which I bring cash and bring my debit card, and I almost always spend more when I have that ability to pull out the debit card (unless, of course, the bank account is bare). this may not be true for everyone, but as a tactic to use to keep yourself honest, it&#039;s very useful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>touche! obviously, I have not read all J.D.&#8217;s posts in detail. sorry, in this case I *did* take a shortcut and find the first post that vaguely stated my thesis. although I am certain I&#8217;ve heard of such studies on NPR &#8212; there was one very recently in which I took mental note that people spent more on debit cards than cash (this was during the debit card fee brouhaha) &#8212; I didn&#8217;t have the time to search hard and find the actual study.</p>
<p>Luckily, in this case, I&#8217;m quite certain &#8212; after serious self-study &#8212; that I do spend more money when I have my debit card as opposed to bringing cash. I have done test cases in which I bring cash and bring my debit card, and I almost always spend more when I have that ability to pull out the debit card (unless, of course, the bank account is bare). this may not be true for everyone, but as a tactic to use to keep yourself honest, it&#8217;s very useful.</p>
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		<title>By: Carla</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2011 21:36:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was speaking in terms of El Nerdo&#039;s comment about the &quot;sugar bomb&quot;.  Making it whole wheat doesn&#039;t make it any less &quot;sugary&quot;.  I can&#039;t eat refined carbs either, including and especially gluten.  Being someone who had no choice, but to avoid certain food given I was overweight/insulin resistance/PCOS and had GI and skin problems, I feel so much much more &quot;sane&quot; avoiding. Can&#039;t say I&#039;m not a little jealous of some people who can eat whatever though. ;)

You&#039;re right, diet is like PF for sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was speaking in terms of El Nerdo&#8217;s comment about the &#8220;sugar bomb&#8221;.  Making it whole wheat doesn&#8217;t make it any less &#8220;sugary&#8221;.  I can&#8217;t eat refined carbs either, including and especially gluten.  Being someone who had no choice, but to avoid certain food given I was overweight/insulin resistance/PCOS and had GI and skin problems, I feel so much much more &#8220;sane&#8221; avoiding. Can&#8217;t say I&#8217;m not a little jealous of some people who can eat whatever though. <img src='http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>You&#8217;re right, diet is like PF for sure.</p>
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