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	<title>Comments on: Spare Change: Preparing for Patagonia Edition</title>
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		<title>By: SMB</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2012/02/09/spare-change-preparing-for-patagonia-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-2403972</link>
		<dc:creator>SMB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2012 23:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t wish anything bad for you, J.D., but I&#039;m particularly rooting for Kris here.  My ex asked me for a divorce, and we tried this kind of experiment (though not a 3-week vacation!).  While his interest might have been in seeing if we could be &quot;friends,&quot; I spent the whole time trying to be particularly charming so that he&#039;d see he was making a mistake.  Well, let&#039;s just say it didn&#039;t work.  It was a very sad time and, while I&#039;ve moved on, I can still remember how bad I felt.  Please remain conscious of what Kris might be feeling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t wish anything bad for you, J.D., but I&#8217;m particularly rooting for Kris here.  My ex asked me for a divorce, and we tried this kind of experiment (though not a 3-week vacation!).  While his interest might have been in seeing if we could be &#8220;friends,&#8221; I spent the whole time trying to be particularly charming so that he&#8217;d see he was making a mistake.  Well, let&#8217;s just say it didn&#8217;t work.  It was a very sad time and, while I&#8217;ve moved on, I can still remember how bad I felt.  Please remain conscious of what Kris might be feeling.</p>
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		<title>By: honeybee</title>
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		<dc:creator>honeybee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2012 13:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 22:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A three-week trip with the person you just divorced? A-C-K-W-A-R-D.

And probably heartbreaking for Kris, though it depends on how mutual the decision to divorce was.
 
J.D., you should&#039;ve bowed out of this trip and bought a ticket for a friend to go with Kris instead.

Oh wait, I&#039;m sure it&#039;ll be fine if you&#039;re &quot;testing your friendship&quot;. LOL. Denial ain&#039;t just a river in Egypt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A three-week trip with the person you just divorced? A-C-K-W-A-R-D.</p>
<p>And probably heartbreaking for Kris, though it depends on how mutual the decision to divorce was.</p>
<p>J.D., you should&#8217;ve bowed out of this trip and bought a ticket for a friend to go with Kris instead.</p>
<p>Oh wait, I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;ll be fine if you&#8217;re &#8220;testing your friendship&#8221;. LOL. Denial ain&#8217;t just a river in Egypt.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 02:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I divorced in the early 80&#039;s and I share a son with my ex.  I am good friends with my ex-and his wife and I are facebook friends. I am facebook friends with his parents and two of three sisters. You know, I loved him once, I still respect him and honor him as the father of my son-before he remarried, we did holidays, Sundays  and other special days with my son.  Since his remarriage-I have embraced his wife and we have celebrated graduations from high school, college, marriage, etc.  It can be very civil-I consider my ex someone I can talk to, vent with and share concerns or celebrate my son&#039;s successes. Divorce can be good-I have a great one!! Wishing you the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I divorced in the early 80&#8242;s and I share a son with my ex.  I am good friends with my ex-and his wife and I are facebook friends. I am facebook friends with his parents and two of three sisters. You know, I loved him once, I still respect him and honor him as the father of my son-before he remarried, we did holidays, Sundays  and other special days with my son.  Since his remarriage-I have embraced his wife and we have celebrated graduations from high school, college, marriage, etc.  It can be very civil-I consider my ex someone I can talk to, vent with and share concerns or celebrate my son&#8217;s successes. Divorce can be good-I have a great one!! Wishing you the same.</p>
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		<title>By: Fiona</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fiona</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 00:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>J.D.,

Best of luck to you and Kris on this new path that your lives are taking you. I applaud your honesty and transparency especially considering none of this is remotely your readers&#039; business.  Marriage is not the end-all and be-all of life; love can manifest in many different ways and we should celebrate all of them even--or perhaps, especially--when they do not fit with our own deeply held notions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>J.D.,</p>
<p>Best of luck to you and Kris on this new path that your lives are taking you. I applaud your honesty and transparency especially considering none of this is remotely your readers&#8217; business.  Marriage is not the end-all and be-all of life; love can manifest in many different ways and we should celebrate all of them even&#8211;or perhaps, especially&#8211;when they do not fit with our own deeply held notions.</p>
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		<title>By: Kris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2012 20:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neither is continuing to repeat the same essential point, despite having that point addressed.

We get it. You disapprove. Let it go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neither is continuing to repeat the same essential point, despite having that point addressed.</p>
<p>We get it. You disapprove. Let it go.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Drake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Drake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2012 18:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the mention J.D., enjoy the trip!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the mention J.D., enjoy the trip!</p>
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		<title>By: maria</title>
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		<dc:creator>maria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2012 15:30:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anne,
why is it so important for you to give advise or comment on a personal subject to someone you have never met (presumably)?
This is his work of art, his blog, his ideas and if comments are moving away from the story he wants to tell  I completely agree with the author censoring some comments.
Lastly,  I find your statement &quot;It skews the perception of how society can and should see relationships.&quot; a little troubling.
Are you saying that JD can  change all of society&#039;s perception on divorce by posting his experiences or deleting certain comments? How exactly SHOULD society  see relationships? The way you described in your comment? I think not! It certainly sounds like you have a huge judgmental chip on your shoulder that needs to  be resolved before I could take your advise as serious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anne,<br />
why is it so important for you to give advise or comment on a personal subject to someone you have never met (presumably)?<br />
This is his work of art, his blog, his ideas and if comments are moving away from the story he wants to tell  I completely agree with the author censoring some comments.<br />
Lastly,  I find your statement &#8220;It skews the perception of how society can and should see relationships.&#8221; a little troubling.<br />
Are you saying that JD can  change all of society&#8217;s perception on divorce by posting his experiences or deleting certain comments? How exactly SHOULD society  see relationships? The way you described in your comment? I think not! It certainly sounds like you have a huge judgmental chip on your shoulder that needs to  be resolved before I could take your advise as serious.</p>
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		<title>By: Triple E</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2012/02/09/spare-change-preparing-for-patagonia-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-2348272</link>
		<dc:creator>Triple E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2012 14:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard a rumor that if you give Stephen a really good bottle of scotch, he&#039;ll just do your taxes for you.  :P</description>
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		<title>By: J.D. Roth</title>
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		<dc:creator>J.D. Roth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2012 21:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great comment, Kate. Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great comment, Kate. Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Harmony</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2012/02/09/spare-change-preparing-for-patagonia-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-2345522</link>
		<dc:creator>Harmony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2012 20:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This occured to me as well... Kris may not be angry, but is likely to be sad, possible teary at times about the end of her marriage.  Is he going to take off if she starts to cry?  Also, is JD expecting some sort of &quot;friends with benefits&quot; arrangement?  I can&#039;t help but believe that this would severly handicap any future romantic relationship that Kris might want.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This occured to me as well&#8230; Kris may not be angry, but is likely to be sad, possible teary at times about the end of her marriage.  Is he going to take off if she starts to cry?  Also, is JD expecting some sort of &#8220;friends with benefits&#8221; arrangement?  I can&#8217;t help but believe that this would severly handicap any future romantic relationship that Kris might want.</p>
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		<title>By: Thad P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thad P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2012 13:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So what happens if the three weeks does more than prove you can be friends post divorce?  Not suggesting it can, but what then?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what happens if the three weeks does more than prove you can be friends post divorce?  Not suggesting it can, but what then?</p>
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		<title>By: Kate in NY</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate in NY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2012 00:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reading about J.D.&#039;s divorce (and all the ensuing posts) has made me realize just how wacky a place the blogosphere really is.  In truth, most of us know absolutely nothing about the &quot;real&quot; J.D. and Kris - or what happened in the privacy of their own marriage.  Indeed, we don&#039;t even know that about our closest friends - but even less so in this case.  And yet, I actually find myself thinking about them, as if they were characters in my favorite TV show (&quot;Why doesn&#039;t Lady Mary just tell Matthew Crawley how she really feels?&quot; &quot;Maybe Kris will run off with some hot Argentine man she meets on the trip,&quot; etc).  

But all these posts - whether supportive, empathic, hostile, preachy - they all form this fascinating kind of treatise on marriage.  Should people stay in a marriage when they feel love, but are no longer &quot;in love?&quot;  Does the institution of marriage hold the same kind of import when there are no children involved?  Can there be friendship after marriage, even when one party does not wish the marriage to end? Is there value in sticking with a marriage through ups and downs, or when the relationship feels more platonic than passionate?  And if we stick it out, are we settling, or choosing the peace and contentment that only a long relationship can ultimately bring?

I guess we can only answer these questions for ourselves.  Still, I keep fighting this urge to somehow send Kris an email in which I encourage her to bring some cute clothes with her on the trip and to flirt a lot with men who are not her soon-to-be-ex-husband.  Sorry, I just can&#039;t help myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading about J.D.&#8217;s divorce (and all the ensuing posts) has made me realize just how wacky a place the blogosphere really is.  In truth, most of us know absolutely nothing about the &#8220;real&#8221; J.D. and Kris &#8211; or what happened in the privacy of their own marriage.  Indeed, we don&#8217;t even know that about our closest friends &#8211; but even less so in this case.  And yet, I actually find myself thinking about them, as if they were characters in my favorite TV show (&#8220;Why doesn&#8217;t Lady Mary just tell Matthew Crawley how she really feels?&#8221; &#8220;Maybe Kris will run off with some hot Argentine man she meets on the trip,&#8221; etc).  </p>
<p>But all these posts &#8211; whether supportive, empathic, hostile, preachy &#8211; they all form this fascinating kind of treatise on marriage.  Should people stay in a marriage when they feel love, but are no longer &#8220;in love?&#8221;  Does the institution of marriage hold the same kind of import when there are no children involved?  Can there be friendship after marriage, even when one party does not wish the marriage to end? Is there value in sticking with a marriage through ups and downs, or when the relationship feels more platonic than passionate?  And if we stick it out, are we settling, or choosing the peace and contentment that only a long relationship can ultimately bring?</p>
<p>I guess we can only answer these questions for ourselves.  Still, I keep fighting this urge to somehow send Kris an email in which I encourage her to bring some cute clothes with her on the trip and to flirt a lot with men who are not her soon-to-be-ex-husband.  Sorry, I just can&#8217;t help myself.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandy E.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandy E.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 23:39:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been giving this some thought.  I understand that divorce happens - that people grow apart, and there can be irreconcilable differences.  It sounds like all they want now, after signing the divorce papers, is just to be platonic friends.  I don&#039;t know Kris or J.D. so can only speak for myself -- I personally feel that I deserve the whole package, and that includes romantic love.  If I had an ex who wanted the divorce, I would stop being friends and stop the relationship.  I would leave him alone to take care of himself, and his own problems, and to figure his own self out.  I wouldn&#039;t go anywhere with him.  And since he isn&#039;t the only game in town, I would immediately start dating 2-3 different guys at a time, looking for that whole package and for a great man.  I would tell these new guys that my ex and I had a lot of happy times together - we grew apart.  It&#039;s over, and right now I&#039;m on a new journey and I have a lot in my life to be grateful for.  In short, I would just move on.  Yes I would be civil with the ex; he just would no longer be my priority.  Ok, that&#039;s just me and my point of view.  Everyone handles things their own way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been giving this some thought.  I understand that divorce happens &#8211; that people grow apart, and there can be irreconcilable differences.  It sounds like all they want now, after signing the divorce papers, is just to be platonic friends.  I don&#8217;t know Kris or J.D. so can only speak for myself &#8212; I personally feel that I deserve the whole package, and that includes romantic love.  If I had an ex who wanted the divorce, I would stop being friends and stop the relationship.  I would leave him alone to take care of himself, and his own problems, and to figure his own self out.  I wouldn&#8217;t go anywhere with him.  And since he isn&#8217;t the only game in town, I would immediately start dating 2-3 different guys at a time, looking for that whole package and for a great man.  I would tell these new guys that my ex and I had a lot of happy times together &#8211; we grew apart.  It&#8217;s over, and right now I&#8217;m on a new journey and I have a lot in my life to be grateful for.  In short, I would just move on.  Yes I would be civil with the ex; he just would no longer be my priority.  Ok, that&#8217;s just me and my point of view.  Everyone handles things their own way.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 23:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True, but my point was about the timing and nothing else.  If they had separate residences and had been divorced for two years, sure, to each his own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True, but my point was about the timing and nothing else.  If they had separate residences and had been divorced for two years, sure, to each his own.</p>
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		<title>By: kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 22:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure why so many people seem to be worked up about Kris and JD taking a trip after filing divorce papers.  They always kept separate finances.  Apparently Kris never took JD&#039;s name, even in hyphenated form.  Neither seem to have wanted kids.  There is nothing wrong with any of that, of course.  It&#039;s just that they never had a conventional marriage so it stands to reason they won&#039;t have a conventional divorce.

Everybody seemed so shocked by the divorce.  Frankly I&#039;m more surprised that it took this long in coming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure why so many people seem to be worked up about Kris and JD taking a trip after filing divorce papers.  They always kept separate finances.  Apparently Kris never took JD&#8217;s name, even in hyphenated form.  Neither seem to have wanted kids.  There is nothing wrong with any of that, of course.  It&#8217;s just that they never had a conventional marriage so it stands to reason they won&#8217;t have a conventional divorce.</p>
<p>Everybody seemed so shocked by the divorce.  Frankly I&#8217;m more surprised that it took this long in coming.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 19:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With all due respect, J.D., instead of seeing &quot;by J.D. Roth&quot; at the top of your posts I now see &quot;by The Dude Who Asked His Wife for a Divorce Then Immediately Went on a Vacation With Her Over Valentine&#039;s Day.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With all due respect, J.D., instead of seeing &#8220;by J.D. Roth&#8221; at the top of your posts I now see &#8220;by The Dude Who Asked His Wife for a Divorce Then Immediately Went on a Vacation With Her Over Valentine&#8217;s Day.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Amy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 19:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok - Awesome that you&#039;re going world traveling. I still haven&#039;t caught (won&#039;t ever catch?) the traveling bug, even though it&#039;s the trendiest thing to do these days it seems. So have fun and don&#039;t get lost. Does don&#039;t drink the local water apply here? I&#039;d love to hear about what the local food is like when you get back. 
I only hear what you update on GRS with regards to your divorce. So my view is extremely limited, but it seems like there&#039;s alot of &quot;oh look, we&#039;ve successfully transitioned to good friends&quot; going on and not alot of &quot;oh, wow, we just ended our marriage, now what does each of us want independant of the other?&quot;. You&#039;ve probably done due diligence, hashed this out with your now ex, and made future commitments for outings together with a clear head. But I wonder if, in your race to be good friends, you&#039;re both ignoring the inevitable grieving process and seperation process. Ultimately it&#039;s none of my business. But the impression I get of your writing bothers me enough that I thought I&#039;d bring it up.
Safe travels to you and Kris!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok &#8211; Awesome that you&#8217;re going world traveling. I still haven&#8217;t caught (won&#8217;t ever catch?) the traveling bug, even though it&#8217;s the trendiest thing to do these days it seems. So have fun and don&#8217;t get lost. Does don&#8217;t drink the local water apply here? I&#8217;d love to hear about what the local food is like when you get back.<br />
I only hear what you update on GRS with regards to your divorce. So my view is extremely limited, but it seems like there&#8217;s alot of &#8220;oh look, we&#8217;ve successfully transitioned to good friends&#8221; going on and not alot of &#8220;oh, wow, we just ended our marriage, now what does each of us want independant of the other?&#8221;. You&#8217;ve probably done due diligence, hashed this out with your now ex, and made future commitments for outings together with a clear head. But I wonder if, in your race to be good friends, you&#8217;re both ignoring the inevitable grieving process and seperation process. Ultimately it&#8217;s none of my business. But the impression I get of your writing bothers me enough that I thought I&#8217;d bring it up.<br />
Safe travels to you and Kris!</p>
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		<title>By: Fabricio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fabricio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 19:35:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JD! You&#039;re coming to visit my country? Send me an email if you like, and I can give you some advice on where to go and some places to visit.

Regards!

Ps: Some days are extremely hot, further more than the temp you can see on the web.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JD! You&#8217;re coming to visit my country? Send me an email if you like, and I can give you some advice on where to go and some places to visit.</p>
<p>Regards!</p>
<p>Ps: Some days are extremely hot, further more than the temp you can see on the web.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 19:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude. Have fun on your trip. Please post as many pics as possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude. Have fun on your trip. Please post as many pics as possible.</p>
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		<title>By: Anne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 19:18:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Censorship is never benevolant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Censorship is never benevolant.</p>
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		<title>By: J.D. Roth</title>
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		<dc:creator>J.D. Roth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 19:10:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See, this is acceptable. It&#039;s critical without being mean and without resorting to supposition. All I&#039;m asking is you keep things civil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See, this is acceptable. It&#8217;s critical without being mean and without resorting to supposition. All I&#8217;m asking is you keep things civil.</p>
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		<title>By: J.D. Roth</title>
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		<dc:creator>J.D. Roth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 19:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anne, that is not all you said, and you know it. I&#039;m not going to argue about it. This blog is not a democracy. It&#039;s a dictatorship. I may be a benevolent dictator, but I still call the shots. I &lt;i&gt;rarely&lt;/i&gt; (as in only a couple of times in six years) moderate comments, but if I think it&#039;s in the best interest of the blog, I&#039;ll do it. This is one of those times. 

I am happy to take criticism. That should be abundantly clear. But it&#039;s possible to level criticism without resorting to unfounded supposition and remarks about putting my balls in a blender. If you want to discuss this by email, then email me, okay? But don&#039;t turn every one of my posts into a forum to rant. I already got your point, and so did everyone else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anne, that is not all you said, and you know it. I&#8217;m not going to argue about it. This blog is not a democracy. It&#8217;s a dictatorship. I may be a benevolent dictator, but I still call the shots. I <i>rarely</i> (as in only a couple of times in six years) moderate comments, but if I think it&#8217;s in the best interest of the blog, I&#8217;ll do it. This is one of those times. </p>
<p>I am happy to take criticism. That should be abundantly clear. But it&#8217;s possible to level criticism without resorting to unfounded supposition and remarks about putting my balls in a blender. If you want to discuss this by email, then email me, okay? But don&#8217;t turn every one of my posts into a forum to rant. I already got your point, and so did everyone else.</p>
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		<title>By: Anne</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2012/02/09/spare-change-preparing-for-patagonia-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-2337032</link>
		<dc:creator>Anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 18:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roth I would like to share with you or your reviewer why this issue is important to me.  (I really don’t care if you leave your wife or move to Siam or get a sex change.  Do what you want.  It doesn’t affect me or anyone I love.)  

What has affected people I love is the idea that people should just move on from marriage and patch things up and become friends as if they were never married and no one ever got hurt. And boy did the women in my life have to do it fast.  Apparently no one had time or care for their grief. So when you accept a post that praises you and your wife as some model, that touches a nerve with me.  Not everyone can go on and just turn a marriage into a close friendship on a dime. 

That does NOT mean the divorce was bitter. Most were not.  It means the people in it are human. It’s natural that when grieving a lost relationship and life that some people will be angry and struggle.  None of the women I know who have been doubly mistreated by husbands and then by family and friends had particularly bitter divorces. 

What happened was that they had to hide and struggle alone with that greif and anger or risk losing everyone in their life.  That broke my heart.

IMO these women should be given the time and support to heal on their own schedule.  There’s no need for anyone to be friends with an ex.  That is not the new normal in human relationships, no matter how many people can do it. 

So,it matters to me when people say you are some kind of model of how it SHOULD be done.  
 You have a choice. You can stop talking about your marriage other than in ways that reflect your personal finances.  Or you can lock the comments making it clear that comments will not be accepted either way

But only deleting the ones that don&#039;t praise your choices is wrong.  It skews the perception of how society can and should see relationships.  It breaks my heart when I think about my friends and relatives who have been doubly hurt by divorce.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roth I would like to share with you or your reviewer why this issue is important to me.  (I really don’t care if you leave your wife or move to Siam or get a sex change.  Do what you want.  It doesn’t affect me or anyone I love.)  </p>
<p>What has affected people I love is the idea that people should just move on from marriage and patch things up and become friends as if they were never married and no one ever got hurt. And boy did the women in my life have to do it fast.  Apparently no one had time or care for their grief. So when you accept a post that praises you and your wife as some model, that touches a nerve with me.  Not everyone can go on and just turn a marriage into a close friendship on a dime. </p>
<p>That does NOT mean the divorce was bitter. Most were not.  It means the people in it are human. It’s natural that when grieving a lost relationship and life that some people will be angry and struggle.  None of the women I know who have been doubly mistreated by husbands and then by family and friends had particularly bitter divorces. </p>
<p>What happened was that they had to hide and struggle alone with that greif and anger or risk losing everyone in their life.  That broke my heart.</p>
<p>IMO these women should be given the time and support to heal on their own schedule.  There’s no need for anyone to be friends with an ex.  That is not the new normal in human relationships, no matter how many people can do it. </p>
<p>So,it matters to me when people say you are some kind of model of how it SHOULD be done.<br />
 You have a choice. You can stop talking about your marriage other than in ways that reflect your personal finances.  Or you can lock the comments making it clear that comments will not be accepted either way</p>
<p>But only deleting the ones that don&#8217;t praise your choices is wrong.  It skews the perception of how society can and should see relationships.  It breaks my heart when I think about my friends and relatives who have been doubly hurt by divorce.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 18:44:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for being so transparent JD. Most of the folks who seem hostile have probably been there--many of us had breakups that seemed amicable and we tried to proceed immediately to friendship only to realize we needed a healthy dose of time apart. That isn&#039;t to say it&#039;s your case or to excuse the rudeness people offer however.

You should both remain thoughtful and introspective and if you decide time apart, be quick to admit it and head out to Peru. 

Have a great trip!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for being so transparent JD. Most of the folks who seem hostile have probably been there&#8211;many of us had breakups that seemed amicable and we tried to proceed immediately to friendship only to realize we needed a healthy dose of time apart. That isn&#8217;t to say it&#8217;s your case or to excuse the rudeness people offer however.</p>
<p>You should both remain thoughtful and introspective and if you decide time apart, be quick to admit it and head out to Peru. </p>
<p>Have a great trip!</p>
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		<title>By: Anne</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2012/02/09/spare-change-preparing-for-patagonia-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-2336942</link>
		<dc:creator>Anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 18:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Then I am sorry but you have to moderate ALL the comments.  It&#039;s not right that you delete the comments that disagree with you or people who praise you. Or you have to make that clear in your policy. 

If you don&#039;t want comments you need to stop posting about it beyond the personal finance issues. You could have simply said you were going on a trip and would be away.

Save it for your personal blog if you dislike comments. But it isn&#039;t right to only keep the comments that praise you and call you a model of divorcing virtue.  

My comment was deleted for no reason.  All I said was that traveling with your ex is not the new standard for amicable divorces.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then I am sorry but you have to moderate ALL the comments.  It&#8217;s not right that you delete the comments that disagree with you or people who praise you. Or you have to make that clear in your policy. </p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t want comments you need to stop posting about it beyond the personal finance issues. You could have simply said you were going on a trip and would be away.</p>
<p>Save it for your personal blog if you dislike comments. But it isn&#8217;t right to only keep the comments that praise you and call you a model of divorcing virtue.  </p>
<p>My comment was deleted for no reason.  All I said was that traveling with your ex is not the new standard for amicable divorces.</p>
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		<title>By: Sue</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2012/02/09/spare-change-preparing-for-patagonia-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-2336782</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 17:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Best of luck on your trip! I couldn&#039;t have done that when I went through my divorce, but best wishes to both of you. And I&#039;m really looking forward to more posts from you, J.D.!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Best of luck on your trip! I couldn&#8217;t have done that when I went through my divorce, but best wishes to both of you. And I&#8217;m really looking forward to more posts from you, J.D.!</p>
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		<title>By: Lindsey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lindsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 17:33:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that a cell phone is probably a need in this day and age -- a phone of some sorts, any way.  However, and this is a point that can be argued til the cows come home, a smart phone is not necessarily a need. A simple, &#039;dumb-phone&#039; works just fine for basic phone functions.  Now, if it is cheaper to have a smartphone w/ data plan vs. internet at home, then it could be considered a need. But only if internet is a necessity for the person (ie: work from home)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that a cell phone is probably a need in this day and age &#8212; a phone of some sorts, any way.  However, and this is a point that can be argued til the cows come home, a smart phone is not necessarily a need. A simple, &#8216;dumb-phone&#8217; works just fine for basic phone functions.  Now, if it is cheaper to have a smartphone w/ data plan vs. internet at home, then it could be considered a need. But only if internet is a necessity for the person (ie: work from home)</p>
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		<title>By: Tie the Money Knot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tie the Money Knot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 16:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Enjoy the trip. Personally, I&#039;ve always wanted to visit Argentina, but simply don&#039;t have time these days. Someday, it will happen....the younger the better when going though!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enjoy the trip. Personally, I&#8217;ve always wanted to visit Argentina, but simply don&#8217;t have time these days. Someday, it will happen&#8230;.the younger the better when going though!</p>
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		<title>By: partgypsy</title>
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		<dc:creator>partgypsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 16:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having you &quot;fly out&quot; if things get uncomfortable is not much of a backup plan. Basically you are saying if things get emotional then you, the more fluent/bilingual traveling partner will take off, leaving her stranded in another country to complete the rest of the trip solo, um yay? 
A real back up plan would have been to have another travel partner instead or in additon to yourself go on the trip.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having you &#8220;fly out&#8221; if things get uncomfortable is not much of a backup plan. Basically you are saying if things get emotional then you, the more fluent/bilingual traveling partner will take off, leaving her stranded in another country to complete the rest of the trip solo, um yay?<br />
A real back up plan would have been to have another travel partner instead or in additon to yourself go on the trip.</p>
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