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	<title>Comments on: Can’t Afford to Socialize? Compromise!</title>
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		<title>By: priskill</title>
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		<dc:creator>priskill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2012 14:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great suggestions!   For kids, check out your local parks, especially in the summer.  So many lessons, activities, etc., nicely subsidized!  During my daughter&#039;s vacation from middle school we would spend the mornings at city pool with lessons and teams (unbelievably cheap -- $30 bucks for the summer, per team!) , and one day a week it was &quot;French night.&quot;  Sometimes we sought out cheaper French restaurants for lunch but usually we cooked something vaguely French and got  French movies with subtitles from the library. 

  I think we adults had as much fun as the kids and fairly cheaply.  We got to socialize and come up with ideas every Wednesday.  Happy memory of pitting endless fruit for Cherries Jubilee with the girls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great suggestions!   For kids, check out your local parks, especially in the summer.  So many lessons, activities, etc., nicely subsidized!  During my daughter&#8217;s vacation from middle school we would spend the mornings at city pool with lessons and teams (unbelievably cheap &#8212; $30 bucks for the summer, per team!) , and one day a week it was &#8220;French night.&#8221;  Sometimes we sought out cheaper French restaurants for lunch but usually we cooked something vaguely French and got  French movies with subtitles from the library. </p>
<p>  I think we adults had as much fun as the kids and fairly cheaply.  We got to socialize and come up with ideas every Wednesday.  Happy memory of pitting endless fruit for Cherries Jubilee with the girls.</p>
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		<title>By: Jessie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jessie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2012 02:05:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just because people agree that something would be cool to do doesn&#039;t mean you should take that as confirmation that they are agreeing to pay for that activity - if I say to a friend &quot;yes, I&#039;d love to own a boat&quot; that isn&#039;t me saying &quot;yes, buy a boat and I&#039;ll pay for it.&quot;  Totally different things!  Since you went ahead and rented a house without getting their confimation of payment, you really can&#039;t expect them to pay anything.  The case may be that they really can&#039;t afford it (or just wanted to spend their money on other things), and would have said so if you had asked them more clearly.  You sound like a great friend to be willing to cover the cost of their stay at the house; as you said, the best thing to do now is not bring up the cost and make an effort not to resent them if they don&#039;t bring it up either.  You did kind of put them in an awkward position of possibly feeling obliged to pay when they didn&#039;t specifically agree to ahead of time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just because people agree that something would be cool to do doesn&#8217;t mean you should take that as confirmation that they are agreeing to pay for that activity &#8211; if I say to a friend &#8220;yes, I&#8217;d love to own a boat&#8221; that isn&#8217;t me saying &#8220;yes, buy a boat and I&#8217;ll pay for it.&#8221;  Totally different things!  Since you went ahead and rented a house without getting their confimation of payment, you really can&#8217;t expect them to pay anything.  The case may be that they really can&#8217;t afford it (or just wanted to spend their money on other things), and would have said so if you had asked them more clearly.  You sound like a great friend to be willing to cover the cost of their stay at the house; as you said, the best thing to do now is not bring up the cost and make an effort not to resent them if they don&#8217;t bring it up either.  You did kind of put them in an awkward position of possibly feeling obliged to pay when they didn&#8217;t specifically agree to ahead of time.</p>
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		<title>By: lmoot</title>
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		<dc:creator>lmoot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2012 22:01:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree. I aim to have the sort of spot where we can pre-game on our way out and decide we&#039;re having too much fun to even need to go out anymore. I know some people go out because they just want to get out of the house, so why can&#039;t this just include somebody else&#039;s house? I&#039;m a homebody so I already focus on my making my home exciting, relaxing, confortable, non boring etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. I aim to have the sort of spot where we can pre-game on our way out and decide we&#8217;re having too much fun to even need to go out anymore. I know some people go out because they just want to get out of the house, so why can&#8217;t this just include somebody else&#8217;s house? I&#8217;m a homebody so I already focus on my making my home exciting, relaxing, confortable, non boring etc.</p>
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		<title>By: lmoot</title>
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		<dc:creator>lmoot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2012 21:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m the type of person where I either like to know that I am expected to pay something specific, or not expected to pay anything. Because if it&#039;s left open-ended it says to me that you obviously would like me to contribute monetarily, however without you saying how much you&#039;re making me try to guess what you think is appropriate. So then I&#039;m left wondering is this too much? not enough? And it would stress me the eff out. 

Since you initiated the idea, and already purchased it, I would just let them know some non monetary things they can contribute to. It&#039;s harder to quantify items and favors so there isn&#039;t the pressure to come up with a &quot;magic number&quot;. I agree with everyone else...most decent friends will WANT to contribute in some way so I like the idea of giving them other ways to pay you back...and let them decide if that includes giving you money. 

Personally I hate taking money from friends unless there is a clear and specific discussion prior as to who is paying how much. Maybe you value the idea of staying in a lakehouse more than they do and you might be willing to pay more than they are as after all it was your idea, even if they agreed it would be fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m the type of person where I either like to know that I am expected to pay something specific, or not expected to pay anything. Because if it&#8217;s left open-ended it says to me that you obviously would like me to contribute monetarily, however without you saying how much you&#8217;re making me try to guess what you think is appropriate. So then I&#8217;m left wondering is this too much? not enough? And it would stress me the eff out. </p>
<p>Since you initiated the idea, and already purchased it, I would just let them know some non monetary things they can contribute to. It&#8217;s harder to quantify items and favors so there isn&#8217;t the pressure to come up with a &#8220;magic number&#8221;. I agree with everyone else&#8230;most decent friends will WANT to contribute in some way so I like the idea of giving them other ways to pay you back&#8230;and let them decide if that includes giving you money. </p>
<p>Personally I hate taking money from friends unless there is a clear and specific discussion prior as to who is paying how much. Maybe you value the idea of staying in a lakehouse more than they do and you might be willing to pay more than they are as after all it was your idea, even if they agreed it would be fun.</p>
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		<title>By: Bella</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2012 20:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t personally expect anything in return - that was my suggestion for Tyler if he is uncomfortable with just footing the bill entirely
Most of our friends would be uncomfortable with us footing the entire bill - and so they bring dinner - but we don&#039;t expect it - sorry if it came out that way - I must have reworded it a dozen times - it&#039;s a sticky situation to navigate - when you have friends that make a lot more, or a lot less money than you. The longer you&#039;re friends the less it matters - but until you have that shared history to rely on - it&#039;s easy to step on toes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t personally expect anything in return &#8211; that was my suggestion for Tyler if he is uncomfortable with just footing the bill entirely<br />
Most of our friends would be uncomfortable with us footing the entire bill &#8211; and so they bring dinner &#8211; but we don&#8217;t expect it &#8211; sorry if it came out that way &#8211; I must have reworded it a dozen times &#8211; it&#8217;s a sticky situation to navigate &#8211; when you have friends that make a lot more, or a lot less money than you. The longer you&#8217;re friends the less it matters &#8211; but until you have that shared history to rely on &#8211; it&#8217;s easy to step on toes.</p>
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		<title>By: DanM53</title>
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		<dc:creator>DanM53</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2012 12:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Volunteer!

(A little late to the show)  -  My wife and I volunteer at all sorts of events.   Sometimes we get the best view of the show or whatever is taking place, sometimes we get to meet the exhibitors.   We meet a lot of like minded volunteers and we often see friends who are attending as patrons.   We&#039;re helping local organizations, getting out of the house, seeing friends and enjoying ourselves.   All for some cleanup, setup or just answering questions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Volunteer!</p>
<p>(A little late to the show)  &#8211;  My wife and I volunteer at all sorts of events.   Sometimes we get the best view of the show or whatever is taking place, sometimes we get to meet the exhibitors.   We meet a lot of like minded volunteers and we often see friends who are attending as patrons.   We&#8217;re helping local organizations, getting out of the house, seeing friends and enjoying ourselves.   All for some cleanup, setup or just answering questions.</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2012 06:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s worse for me because we have cash in the bank I just may not choose to spend it on what they&#039;re inviting me to...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s worse for me because we have cash in the bank I just may not choose to spend it on what they&#8217;re inviting me to&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Stacy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stacy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2012 01:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly. We have a very generous friend who makes very good money with minimal expenses. He footed the cost of a trip to Vegas for the 3 of us (himself, my husband, me) and essentially told us, &quot;I want you guys to come. Cover your plane tickets and gambling money, I&#039;ll pay the rest.&quot; We did, and all of us had a great time (we tried to pick up the cost of smaller things along the way- taxis, etc). I still don&#039;t know what the cost of the hotel or anything else was.

Tell your friends, &quot;I want you to come. I&#039;ll cover lodging, you provide food and your company.&quot; or whatever it is. As people who have been on the receiving end of that before it is a difficult gift to accept but we do deeply appreciate it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly. We have a very generous friend who makes very good money with minimal expenses. He footed the cost of a trip to Vegas for the 3 of us (himself, my husband, me) and essentially told us, &#8220;I want you guys to come. Cover your plane tickets and gambling money, I&#8217;ll pay the rest.&#8221; We did, and all of us had a great time (we tried to pick up the cost of smaller things along the way- taxis, etc). I still don&#8217;t know what the cost of the hotel or anything else was.</p>
<p>Tell your friends, &#8220;I want you to come. I&#8217;ll cover lodging, you provide food and your company.&#8221; or whatever it is. As people who have been on the receiving end of that before it is a difficult gift to accept but we do deeply appreciate it.</p>
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		<title>By: A-L</title>
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		<dc:creator>A-L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2012 00:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really like many of the suggestions here.  Just a couple of other thoughts:

-Preview nights for the performing arts.  In my city, those tickets are half-off.  
-See if there&#039;s a city e-mail with events for the week, with offers.  My city also offers this, and usually there will be limited numbers of free tickets to the events being advertised.  (Could be a comedy show, musical performance at a museum, etc.)
-Going for a bike ride/hike.
-A variation on The Big Game.  In college we would get together for a tv show everybody liked.  Also works for Oscars/Grammies, and other award shows.  
-Karaoke at home (either real karaoke, or with a video game like American Idol: Karaoke Revolution).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really like many of the suggestions here.  Just a couple of other thoughts:</p>
<p>-Preview nights for the performing arts.  In my city, those tickets are half-off.<br />
-See if there&#8217;s a city e-mail with events for the week, with offers.  My city also offers this, and usually there will be limited numbers of free tickets to the events being advertised.  (Could be a comedy show, musical performance at a museum, etc.)<br />
-Going for a bike ride/hike.<br />
-A variation on The Big Game.  In college we would get together for a tv show everybody liked.  Also works for Oscars/Grammies, and other award shows.<br />
-Karaoke at home (either real karaoke, or with a video game like American Idol: Karaoke Revolution).</p>
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		<title>By: Pamela</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pamela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2012 23:39:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I know you weren&#039;t making a sweeping generalization! Maybe I&#039;m getting cranky about this, lol.  I&#039;ve limited contact with people who get cranky with me for saying &quot;That sounds like so much fun but things are tight for me now/I can&#039;t afford it/it&#039;s not in my budget.&quot;  (Though if your family members get that way it can be a whole other ballgame.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I know you weren&#8217;t making a sweeping generalization! Maybe I&#8217;m getting cranky about this, lol.  I&#8217;ve limited contact with people who get cranky with me for saying &#8220;That sounds like so much fun but things are tight for me now/I can&#8217;t afford it/it&#8217;s not in my budget.&#8221;  (Though if your family members get that way it can be a whole other ballgame.)</p>
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		<title>By: A-L</title>
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		<dc:creator>A-L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2012 23:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, do a search for restaurant.com coupon codes.  I normally can get those certificates for 70-80% off.  Also, check your credit card shopping zone.  I can&#039;t think of which company offers restaurant.com discounts (on top of the coupon) but I think it&#039;s Capital One, Chase, and/or Discover.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, do a search for restaurant.com coupon codes.  I normally can get those certificates for 70-80% off.  Also, check your credit card shopping zone.  I can&#8217;t think of which company offers restaurant.com discounts (on top of the coupon) but I think it&#8217;s Capital One, Chase, and/or Discover.</p>
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		<title>By: Donna Freedman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donna Freedman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2012 23:20:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice! You may be inspired to learn a new skill from watching others, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice! You may be inspired to learn a new skill from watching others, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Jenna, Adaptu Community Manager</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jenna, Adaptu Community Manager</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2012 23:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My friends do DIY nights, where we all pick a project to work on/create and spend the night visiting and making something.  Pretty fun and sometimes you get house work done or presents made.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My friends do DIY nights, where we all pick a project to work on/create and spend the night visiting and making something.  Pretty fun and sometimes you get house work done or presents made.</p>
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		<title>By: El Nerdo</title>
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		<dc:creator>El Nerdo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2012 23:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haaa haaa. If you can bring French pastries, please do!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haaa haaa. If you can bring French pastries, please do!</p>
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		<title>By: Holly@ClubThrifty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Holly@ClubThrifty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2012 22:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree!

Real friends will be understanding and find cheap things to do with you.  My best friend and her husband are big spenders but when they hang out with us we make dinner and have drinks at home.  Sure, they make fun of our frugality sometimes but they&#039;re not offended.  If a friendship is important to you then it shouldn&#039;t matter.

I also agree that certain kinds of friends love to spend their money...and yours.  Some people just can&#039;t go out and have fun without dropping a ton of cash.  I&#039;ve thinned out the pack as far as friends go so luckily I don&#039;t have many of them anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree!</p>
<p>Real friends will be understanding and find cheap things to do with you.  My best friend and her husband are big spenders but when they hang out with us we make dinner and have drinks at home.  Sure, they make fun of our frugality sometimes but they&#8217;re not offended.  If a friendship is important to you then it shouldn&#8217;t matter.</p>
<p>I also agree that certain kinds of friends love to spend their money&#8230;and yours.  Some people just can&#8217;t go out and have fun without dropping a ton of cash.  I&#8217;ve thinned out the pack as far as friends go so luckily I don&#8217;t have many of them anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
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		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2012 22:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with the no strings attached or you could just let them use the place on their own. If you can&#039;t afford the place without a contribution then you should be renting it out or what not. Of course I do believe it human nature is quid pro quo and most people will want to do a good turn whether it is chipping in for food or booze, if they can truly afford it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the no strings attached or you could just let them use the place on their own. If you can&#8217;t afford the place without a contribution then you should be renting it out or what not. Of course I do believe it human nature is quid pro quo and most people will want to do a good turn whether it is chipping in for food or booze, if they can truly afford it.</p>
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		<title>By: valleycat1</title>
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		<dc:creator>valleycat1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2012 22:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it&#039;s someone inviting me to something they and a group of people have already planned, I have no problem with just saying no thanks or that I have other plans (they don&#039;t need to know the other plans are to stay in eating leftovers).  If they are good enough friends, I might explain instead that I&#039;ve already spend my &#039;fun money&#039; for the month.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it&#8217;s someone inviting me to something they and a group of people have already planned, I have no problem with just saying no thanks or that I have other plans (they don&#8217;t need to know the other plans are to stay in eating leftovers).  If they are good enough friends, I might explain instead that I&#8217;ve already spend my &#8216;fun money&#8217; for the month.</p>
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		<title>By: Donna Freedman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donna Freedman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2012 22:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a suggestion someone once made on an MSN Money message board: Run an extension cord out to the driveway some night and play a movie there. Sitting outdoors eating popcorn and watching TV is apparently a fun novelty. Neighbors wander over, kids stop riding their bikes, etc.
It helps if the weather isn&#039;t super-stinkin&#039;-hot-and-humid, and if there aren&#039;t any mosquitoes and other biters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a suggestion someone once made on an MSN Money message board: Run an extension cord out to the driveway some night and play a movie there. Sitting outdoors eating popcorn and watching TV is apparently a fun novelty. Neighbors wander over, kids stop riding their bikes, etc.<br />
It helps if the weather isn&#8217;t super-stinkin&#8217;-hot-and-humid, and if there aren&#8217;t any mosquitoes and other biters.</p>
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		<title>By: Donna Freedman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donna Freedman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2012 21:56:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What time should I come over? :-P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What time should I come over? <img src='http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':-P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Donna Freedman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donna Freedman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2012 21:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I said that &quot;some&quot; people may react defensively. Not all of them. In my experience some people do get cranky when I mention keeping to a budget as the reason I won&#039;t do this or that. YMMV.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I said that &#8220;some&#8221; people may react defensively. Not all of them. In my experience some people do get cranky when I mention keeping to a budget as the reason I won&#8217;t do this or that. YMMV.</p>
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		<title>By: Carla</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2012 21:25:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My exact thoughts and feelings.</description>
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		<title>By: PawPrint</title>
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		<dc:creator>PawPrint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2012 21:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have a First Thursday where I live with art galleries that stay open late as well as other businesses. The businesses provide food and drink (the bank has the best food). The art museum is free that evening, too. One of the events I enjoy is the monthly food truck rally. The food is gourmet quality for a low price plus there&#039;s often music. The venue is a vacant dirt lot, but it&#039;s the food, not the ambiance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have a First Thursday where I live with art galleries that stay open late as well as other businesses. The businesses provide food and drink (the bank has the best food). The art museum is free that evening, too. One of the events I enjoy is the monthly food truck rally. The food is gourmet quality for a low price plus there&#8217;s often music. The venue is a vacant dirt lot, but it&#8217;s the food, not the ambiance.</p>
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		<title>By: Carla</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2012 20:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like ideas that doesn&#039;t always involve staying at home.  I work from home and so the last place I want to be sometimes (even when I have company) is home..  When we have a sunny day living in Portland, its almost a sin to stay home if you don&#039;t need to so I&#039;m always finding ways to go out within my budget.

This place is crawling with happy hour restaurants (1/2 off sushi, $2 tacos, $3 salads, etc) so I keep a log of different places in my phone so when I&#039;m out and want to be spontaneous, I have my list of places I could choose from.    

I know its been said here many times but Groupon, Living Social, Google Offers, Get My Perks, etc has been a Godsend for me.  I just purchased a coupon for half off for &quot;OMSI After Dark&quot; next week - something I&#039;ve always wanted to do, but didn&#039;t want to pay $18 for.  I have a Google Offers coupon for wine tasting at a local wine store that I&#039;m going to take a friend too.

Of course there are so many free/low cost activities as well...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like ideas that doesn&#8217;t always involve staying at home.  I work from home and so the last place I want to be sometimes (even when I have company) is home..  When we have a sunny day living in Portland, its almost a sin to stay home if you don&#8217;t need to so I&#8217;m always finding ways to go out within my budget.</p>
<p>This place is crawling with happy hour restaurants (1/2 off sushi, $2 tacos, $3 salads, etc) so I keep a log of different places in my phone so when I&#8217;m out and want to be spontaneous, I have my list of places I could choose from.    </p>
<p>I know its been said here many times but Groupon, Living Social, Google Offers, Get My Perks, etc has been a Godsend for me.  I just purchased a coupon for half off for &#8220;OMSI After Dark&#8221; next week &#8211; something I&#8217;ve always wanted to do, but didn&#8217;t want to pay $18 for.  I have a Google Offers coupon for wine tasting at a local wine store that I&#8217;m going to take a friend too.</p>
<p>Of course there are so many free/low cost activities as well&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Anne Cross</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anne Cross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2012 19:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think if you invite people to stay with you &quot;no strings attached&quot; while also having an expectation of what they can do &quot;in return&quot; you&#039;re setting up a situation where resentment and misunderstanding are sure to follow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think if you invite people to stay with you &#8220;no strings attached&#8221; while also having an expectation of what they can do &#8220;in return&#8221; you&#8217;re setting up a situation where resentment and misunderstanding are sure to follow.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2012 19:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(We&#039;re at the life stage right now where almost all non-work socialization is centered around children-- birthday parties, playdates etc.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(We&#8217;re at the life stage right now where almost all non-work socialization is centered around children&#8211; birthday parties, playdates etc.)</p>
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		<title>By: MelodyO</title>
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		<dc:creator>MelodyO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2012 18:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The next time I&#039;m invited to someone&#039;s house for supper, I&#039;m totally going to ask, &quot;Should I bring dessert or a magician?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The next time I&#8217;m invited to someone&#8217;s house for supper, I&#8217;m totally going to ask, &#8220;Should I bring dessert or a magician?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Megan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Megan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2012 18:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can&#039;t always tell what people can afford by their food. :) 

There are well-to-do folks who will only drink, say, the store brand of pop because that&#039;s what they like (and actually, I think Warren Buffett does this, too). And then there are foodies who will buy cheap clothing and cut the cable bill so they can afford the truffle oil and expensive cheese - because that&#039;s what they like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can&#8217;t always tell what people can afford by their food. <img src='http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>There are well-to-do folks who will only drink, say, the store brand of pop because that&#8217;s what they like (and actually, I think Warren Buffett does this, too). And then there are foodies who will buy cheap clothing and cut the cable bill so they can afford the truffle oil and expensive cheese &#8211; because that&#8217;s what they like.</p>
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		<title>By: EMH</title>
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		<dc:creator>EMH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2012 17:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The museum passes from the library are only for Chicago residents with a library card and you can&#039;t check them out online. You have to go to the branch to check them out. Here are some more details:

http://www.chipublib.org/forteens/teenhowto/freechgo.php

It is under the &quot;teen&quot; section but adults can check them out. 

Depending on how many sites you plan to visit, it may be beneficial to get the city pass. 

http://www.citypass.com/chicago

I hope this helps! Chicago is really fun in the summer and there are many free things to do. Lincoln Park Zoo, Grant Park, Millennium Park, the beaches are great, and I enjoy walking around the museum campus just for the scenery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The museum passes from the library are only for Chicago residents with a library card and you can&#8217;t check them out online. You have to go to the branch to check them out. Here are some more details:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.chipublib.org/forteens/teenhowto/freechgo.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.chipublib.org/forteens/teenhowto/freechgo.php</a></p>
<p>It is under the &#8220;teen&#8221; section but adults can check them out. </p>
<p>Depending on how many sites you plan to visit, it may be beneficial to get the city pass. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.citypass.com/chicago" rel="nofollow">http://www.citypass.com/chicago</a></p>
<p>I hope this helps! Chicago is really fun in the summer and there are many free things to do. Lincoln Park Zoo, Grant Park, Millennium Park, the beaches are great, and I enjoy walking around the museum campus just for the scenery.</p>
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		<title>By: El Nerdo</title>
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		<dc:creator>El Nerdo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2012 17:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, that seems like a reasonable conversation, and it&#039;s not like you put them on the spot and demanded money, but they brought it up. 

And it&#039;s definitely not a clearcut situation, but I think the house became your charge when you rented it on your own. 

Now they will probably feel the obligation to pay no matter the cost to them-- as I mentioned before, people have their pride, and most humans would rather go into debt or sell a kidney than lose face or come up short.

However, since you rented this on your own, and they had no part on the decision, you probably should do your best to let them off the hook. 

Chances are they will insist they want to pay, but I would say best course it to refuse it politely and ask them to bring food and drinks instead-- you want to foster a feeling of equality in the relationship, and a sense that everyone belongs and contributes something of value  to the experience without having to summon an army of bean counters.

If they keep asking to pay their share you could say &quot;look, I signed this contract without checking with you, so let me take care of i-- how about you&#039;re in charge of food for the week?&quot; or something along those lines. Maybe they are terrible cooks and would rather hire magicians, I don&#039;t know, but my point is that they need a way to not pay that lets them be equal partners.

Eh, I&#039;m not the greatest diplomat either, so maybe someone can suggest something else, but that&#039;s how I analyze that situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, that seems like a reasonable conversation, and it&#8217;s not like you put them on the spot and demanded money, but they brought it up. </p>
<p>And it&#8217;s definitely not a clearcut situation, but I think the house became your charge when you rented it on your own. </p>
<p>Now they will probably feel the obligation to pay no matter the cost to them&#8211; as I mentioned before, people have their pride, and most humans would rather go into debt or sell a kidney than lose face or come up short.</p>
<p>However, since you rented this on your own, and they had no part on the decision, you probably should do your best to let them off the hook. </p>
<p>Chances are they will insist they want to pay, but I would say best course it to refuse it politely and ask them to bring food and drinks instead&#8211; you want to foster a feeling of equality in the relationship, and a sense that everyone belongs and contributes something of value  to the experience without having to summon an army of bean counters.</p>
<p>If they keep asking to pay their share you could say &#8220;look, I signed this contract without checking with you, so let me take care of i&#8211; how about you&#8217;re in charge of food for the week?&#8221; or something along those lines. Maybe they are terrible cooks and would rather hire magicians, I don&#8217;t know, but my point is that they need a way to not pay that lets them be equal partners.</p>
<p>Eh, I&#8217;m not the greatest diplomat either, so maybe someone can suggest something else, but that&#8217;s how I analyze that situation.</p>
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		<title>By: Emily @ evolvingPF</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emily @ evolvingPF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2012 17:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to take this way more specific, but I am planning a trip to Chicago for next week and I am having trouble finding details about the museum passes online.  Are they for groups with children or is that not required?  And what museums are they good for - does it change over time?  How long can you check them out for?  Is there any kind of strategy as to which branch to go to to maximize the likelihood of getting one?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to take this way more specific, but I am planning a trip to Chicago for next week and I am having trouble finding details about the museum passes online.  Are they for groups with children or is that not required?  And what museums are they good for &#8211; does it change over time?  How long can you check them out for?  Is there any kind of strategy as to which branch to go to to maximize the likelihood of getting one?</p>
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