As the audition process for GRS staff writers continues, I’m looking for ways to streamline things a bit. Today, for instance, I’m going to share three candidates in one post.
All three of these writers have shared articles at Get Rich Slowly in the past. All three asked me to reprint their past articles as audition pieces. But doing so has prompted some readers to complain. To please everyone, I’m collecting all of their articles here, in a single post.
These three folks are all legitimate candidates for a staff writer position, so I encourage you to take the time to read their stuff. It’s good!
Louisa Rogers
First up is Louisa Rogers, who has shared four articles with us in the past (three of which were reader stories):
Reader story: Even better than enough
“I just turned 59. Most of my peers have accumulated much more than my husband and I have. I don’t envy them. We love our cozy, $695/month 750-square-foot apartment, which allowed us to buy and remodel an old house in Mexico. We travel a lot and never worry about theft when away from either home. Having Enough frees me from worry — but not having Too Much also frees me from worry.”
Reader story: A fresh start on the path to prosperity
“The downside of my particular brand of frugality is the stinginess that comes with it. I’m not saying this is true of all frugal types, but generosity isn’t my strong suit. I’ve been working on this “issue” (as we say these days) for awhile. Over time, I began to sense that before I could find my generosity gene, there was another step I needed to take.”
Reader story: Living on less in Mexico
“In 2006, my husband and I bought a house in the center of Guanajuato, a city in Mexico’s Central Highlands, where we live about one-third of the year. We didn’t buy the house because it’s a cheaper place to live; we were motivated because we’d been visiting this town for five years and fell in love with it anew every time we came. Despite the fact that we live pretty simply in the States, it’s less expensive in Guanajuato. Here are some of the ways we save.”
Health is wealth: The best investment I ever made
“As a middle-aged fitness junkie, I’m always interested in what motivates people to get in shape. Typically, folks say they want to lose weight, tone their bodies, and slow the aging process. But there’s another major reason to get fit that I rarely hear discussed — saving money. Fitness alone doesn’t guarantee reduced health care costs, of course, but it sure increases the odds. In my case, although I grew up overweight and out-of-shape, around the age of twenty I started becoming active, and now, at sixty, I’m finding that years of accumulated fitness are — literally — money in the bank.”
Michael Robertson
Next is Michael Robertson, who is sailing the seas with is wife and two daughters. (Read more about their adventures at the Log of s/v Del Viento.)
Direct stock purchase plans: A better way to invest
“For the small investor who is ready to buy individual shares of a particular company, a direct stock purchase plan may be the smartest and most thrifty way to do so.”
Sailing away from the American Dream
“I’m a healthy 42-year-old family man with a fine little house and a secure job with a salary that just made it over the six-digit milestone. I’m fortunate beyond measure, deep into the American Dream. In a few months — if everything goes according to plan — my life as it is today will be gone: I’ll be unemployed, another family will own our home, and the four of us will be on the road to Mexico in our Ford Escort station-wagon.”
Karawynn Long
Finally, there’s Karawynn Long, who has been blogging since long before “blog” was even a word. In fact, she was one of the prime reasons I started blogging myself. Here are her three past GRS articles:
Discovering and challenging your financial values
“I have two kids, stepdaughters aged ten and sixteen, and I desperately want to send them out into the world with all the financial context that I lacked. Part of that means active teaching of skills and concepts, like how to plan meals around grocery loss leader sales, or why forty years of compounded interest is more than twice as good as twenty. Part of it means creating a culture in our home where money is not a taboo subject, where we talk openly about wages and savings and expenses and debt. And part of it, I hope, means being a living example.”
A visit to the island of misfit foods
“About a mile from my house there’s a slightly shabby strip mall housing a Dollar Store, a Ross Dress for Less, and something called a ‘Grocery Outlet’. For two years I’ve driven past that sign — on my way to Costco, Fred Meyer, and Trader Joe’s — without ever giving it a second thought. I’ll pick through thrift-store racks for clothes, sure, but I’m a snob about food, and ‘Grocery Outlet’ smacked of discards and dregs. After six months of only part-time employment and a pared-down budget, though, I start eyeing the sign more speculatively. One day I gather up my cloth bags and my determination and head over to expand my grocery comfort zone.”
Furniture shopping secrets: How to tell superior from shoddy
“I’ve mostly gone for Ikea ‘cheap and new’ furniture in the past, but I’ve been disappointed by its (understatement alert!) lack of durability. This time I’d like to try buying used but higher-quality. As I began to look around, though, I realized that I knew very little about what makes for a strong, long-lasting piece of furniture.”
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I am not sure the best place to put comments on these articles. I posted on the article itself, but I will repeat here.
Louisa,
I realize this may not be the forum for an extended answer, but as I am seriously considering moving to Mexico in retirement, I was curious about how you bought your house. I have heard conflicting stories about owning property in Mexico, in that property rights can be slippery sometimes, and the government can be whimsical in who gets to purchase property. Can you speak very generally about that?
I think this article is great and I would be interested in more of them from Louisa.
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Kris– sorry for delay in responding; I’ve been in transit — to Mexico! Foreigners can buy property anywhere in Mexico except a) on the coast or b) border. There is nothing slippery or whimsical about it. There is a system in place nationwide, and you have to follow it, of course. And governments do change laws, so things could change. But it has been legal and standard for a long time.
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I am disappointed in today’s post. It is my opinion that anyone interested in being a permanent staff writer for GRS would put in the effort to write a new and fresh article. Personally, I am not interested in any of these past writers for their lack of respect to us readers.
If they don’t want to write a new article now, I can only speculate that future articles, should they get the positon, will not be the quality that is being produced at GRS todate.
My votes is that none of this authors be considered for the open position.
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I agree, laziness in a staff writer doesn’t exactly make me jump up and down in anticipation of their next article.
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For what it’s worth, my situation had nothing to do with ‘laziness’ and everything to do with the fact that I was out of the country with no computer or Internet at the time I would have been needing to write and submit new articles. Had that not been the case I would have written one new article to go along with the older ones.
But at the same time, I would suggest that if ‘willing to keep writing for free’ is your primary selection criteria, you are not likely to end up with the best writers, because they will get better offers elsewhere.
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Karawynn, you no longer get a thumbs up from me due to this sassy response. I might be offended by the laziness comment too; however, this isn’t the professional response I’d want at GRS. If we would be expecting responses like this for comments we made about future articles I’m not interested.
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I disagree with Malcom entirely. I think it’s a bit disrespectful to expect people to work for you for free on the chance that they might get hired afterward. You are getting weeks worth of material from these writers and not a single one of them is on the payroll. It’s also a given that only one (of over a dozen candidates) will be chosen, so the chances that any one writer gets picked for the job is actually pretty low, making it pretty unlikely that their free work is going to pay off for them.
I think today’s post, where you show previous writing samples from prospective candidates, is actually a lot more fair to them. People deserve to be paid for their work.
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I’m sorry, Tyler, but I have to respectfully disagree with you. It seems to me that these articles are akin to the interview process for a job, and I can’t think of a single example of someone being paid for the time they take to prep for an interview. If a writer can’t be bothered to put in their best effort to get the job, it is hard to imagine it would be any different once they had the job. Just my two cents.
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Can you think of a single example where you did work during a job interview that the company took and sold (or, say, printed on their front page, which is how they make money), without either paying you for it or hiring you?
I disagree with your assessment, which is essentially, “if a writer can’t be bothered to work for free, it’s hard to imagine it’d be any different when they’re getting paid.” I do not feel that’s true.
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An interview is one thing, but I can tell you in my field, if you are looking to lateral across firms they will ask for a writing sample with the full expectation that it will be something you already wrote, not something brand new for the interview/hiring process. I think it’s fair game for the people auditioning for the staff writer role to call up some of their past gems.
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I have to agree with Tyler and Sara. Many, MANY job posts for freelance writers will say something to the effect of “If you want to write for us, please submit a link to your portfolio or send a clip of your previous work.”
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Malcolm, I wrote JD as soon as he saw he had a staff writer position open, but he did not see it until I wrote him again, about 8 days later. So I was way behind because the auditioning posts were soon to start, and I was by then on a camping trip. I asked if I could use former posts, and he said yes.
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Louisa is definitely not what I’m looking for. To me, she crosses the line from cheap to frugal, and even if she isn’t actively stealing anymore (good for her!), someone who brings a tea bag and water to a coffee shop to avoid paying for tea has crossed the line to “cheap”, for me. While it may not be stealing it’s taking advantage and not at all the kind of tips I’m looking for or changes I want to make in my life.
Yes, I did see that she does occasionally give the owner money, but the choice to do it in the first place tells me that she’s unlikely to be someone I can look to for advice on how to live a frugal life while still living generously and ethically. She’s definitely not for me.
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For what it’s worth, Karawynn’s excerpt on the Island of Misfit Foods was the only one that got my click through to her article.
I have no problems with reposts, especially if the article remains relevant.
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I loved Karawynn’s articles! They’re the topics that got me reading this site a couple of months ago in the first place. Very useful, and with their heart in the right place. Especially the financial values one, I was nodding my head the whole time reading it
I didn’t really relate to Louise and Michael unfortunately. I’m young and just starting out and a lot of middle-aged financial writers seems to have a Chicken-Little “The sky is falling!” attitude towards both the economy and people in general, which to a lesser extent Louise and Michael share.
Yes, the economy is bad, but life goes on. I’d like some tips on how to make it as good as possible without packing up and leaving the country. My life is here! Why would I want to leave my friends and family to save money?
Also, Louise’s article about living in Mexico:
Mexicans have always had problems with exploitation and domination by foreigners, especially Americans, which is the reason for banning foreign property ownership. Sometimes someone who wants foreign investment money is in power, and sometimes someone more socialistic, so the rules fluctuate. I don’t want to make assumptions about Louise, but there are large American retiree and summer-home enclaves in Mexico that are resented by the locals. It makes me uncomfortable to read about her charmed life there because she’s a financial writer recommending it as a great deal to other non-Mexicans. Millions of people don’t cross the border every year for no reason. I wouldn’t want to live a cheaper life on the back of Mexican peasants, which is what the majority of people who retire (and vacation) there end up doing.
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Really, Really like this comment.
Louisa seems to me to be someone with no sense of social morals or responsibility.
Her smugness of living in Mexico – with the plan to return to the US if anything goes bad, just leave a bad taste.
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People have always migrated. Artists migrate from richer sections to poorer sections of NYC, for example. Large segments of US real estate are owned by the Chinese (they hold our debt). We live in a global economy.
Louise is infusing the Mexican economy with money. She is giving opportunities to Mexicans. She didn’t say she wasn’t paying them, or paying them less than a prevailing wage. And we all would flee is things got bad in our American cities to places that were safer. (In fact, it has happened, over and over). It is smart to have a plan B. Would it be the same concept to not live in NYC and instead live in Florida, for example, in retirement? This just involves another country.
I don’t see a moral problem with that. She is being sensible with the money she has.
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Ellie, my husband and I have excellent relations with our neighbors. We go out of the way to make Mexican friends. We speak Spanish. I have worked in Mexico. I do hire Mexican workers from time to time and pay them well. You’re right, there are foreigners who live here in private English-only enclaves; we are not amongf them. Personally I wish more people in the world would mix it up and live in other countries.
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Also, it seems pretty clear at this point that “Get Rich Slowly,” isn’t really about getting rich anymore (if it ever was). These (and I mean all the audition pieces, not just today’s) are “financial stories for the everyman”, but very few of them are about accumulating wealth. I guess if that’s what you want, I guess you should go read Ramit Sethi’s site, where he offers up good advice with a side of smug self-righteousness.
But some of the articles that we’ve seen lately seem to be almost the opposite of advice on how to get rich, like Tim’s article on how to deal with not having health insurance. It’s pretty much advice on how to stay poor without dying, which is hardly “getting rich”. This isn’t necessarily a bad thing, but I find myself wondering what the theme of GRS is supposed to be lately. J.D. seems to have gotten rich (to some degree) and moved on to other things, the rest of the staff writers don’t seem to share his original vision much, and the audition candidates seem not to have much in the way of grand plans either.
I mean, J.D.’s story was great: Man in debt starts website called “Get Rich Slowly”, works hard for several years, and sells it for a MILLION DOLLARS.
And now we’ve got “how to buy factory second food” and “how to buy sheets” and “how not to die when you have no health insurance”.
I mean the list of headlines… actually, let me make that list:
How Saving Money Cost Me Money
Surviving Student Loans
Sheet Dreams: How to Shop for Bed Sheets
Can’t Afford to Socialize? Compromise!
What Your Loose Change is Really Worth
Survival Techniques for the Barely Insured
Changing Focus from Stuff to Substance
How to Invest Using Direct Stock Purchase Plans <- (How'd the get here?)
Financial Advice for a Five-Year-Old
How I Won $10,200 on Game Shows
Frugal or Foolish? Our Cruise-Ship Wedding
It seriously reads like a list of "How to Be Poor Comfortably".
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I often don’t agree with your comments (although I enjoy reading them), but I have to say today I agree with both of them. With that said, being the same age as Louisa, I like finding out how other people are living on less. I don’t have as much time as you to Get Rich Slowly, but given the name of the blog, perhaps more focus should be given to accumulating wealth. I’d certainly like to do so. Sad to say, but I haven’t been that thrilled with any of the audition pieces.
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It stopped being about pursuing wealth and has slowly become the hippie-commune haven for dumpster divers and diy hygiene.
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KT nailed it.
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Amen to that, seriously. As a young single woman living on a disability and part-time income, I am constantly looking for unconventional ways to earn more and plan for the future. I got the living part down. I have all the furniture I will even need short of buying a new mattress in a few years, clothing shopping isn’t a problem, I have a particular diet I adhere to and so on so these tips are not very useful (for me).
What I need to know is how to earn more money, especially unconventional ways.
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I agree wholeheartly. It really does read “How to be poor comfortably.”
I know how to be poor comfortably, my family and I were poor for the first 16 years of my life.
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I vote for Karawynn Long, her articles were unique and got me to click back and re-read.
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Hi-
I linked to Michael’s blog and have been fascinated with the Del Viento since then. He is a good writer.
I am not interested in money-anorexia (pathologic cheapness)
thanks!
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Honestly? I think it’s unfair to lump three prospective writers into one post. How many people will read all contributions in this post, then make a decision on which one writer would be great to hire?
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Tyler,
Sorry but I couldn’t disagree with you more. JD and staff have dozens of candidates all of whom (presumably) are well qualified and eager for this opportunity. If you want to stand out in a tough competition, reusing old material is not the way to do so.
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This may be old material but the writing overall is better than most of the other entrants. It is livelier and shows more personality. Of the writers to audition so far, I’d like to vote for Karawynn (from among the writers so far). She has a nice sense of humor, did some real research on something that most of us deal with – buying furniture, and manages to bring a fresh slant to an essentially repetitive topic – money management. I’d enjoy reading her posts.
I would like to see someone who is at a later stage of money management than most of the writers. Someone who talks more about managing your savings once you have them, for example. What withdrawal methods do those who are living off savings (retired or financially independent) use? Even if most of the readers aren’t to this stage, it might be interesting for them to start learning so that they aren’t surprised when they do have savings. What I’m seeing of this later stage is pretty sparse.
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Hey,
JD, there are so many options at this point for staff writer(s) that it’s a bit crazy to me. Honestly I’ve been mostly skimming for the past week or so. I understand that you have a lot of people applying, but perhaps next time (if there is one) there should be a bit of weeding beforehand?
I do understand the difficulty involved, but it goes back to El Nerdo’s comment a bit back about stronger input to make sure that things match the “voice” and vision you (or whoever is doing that bit at this point) have for the site. (Sorry Nerdo, I’m probably mangling what you said.) Some of these articles are gold, and good variety for the site. So much of them at once is a bit daunting, however. Perhaps it’s time for a different selection process, and/or a way to submit one or two really good articles for pay? That way you’ve got the variety but not so much of it at once. It may not be the way the current model works in the blogworld, but “do what works for you”, right?
Anyway, thought about the relevance of this for a bit but decided to post.
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agreed! it took me a while to figure out why all the posts had gone from useful to across the board in quality and content.
don’t get all TSD on us
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I agree with Ash. I think that JD should have combed through the posts, made his own decision as to which were among the best fit, and then sent a short list out for reader consideration.
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Seems like you’re going to have a difficult decision as to who will be the replacement.
I remember enjoying the boat article, the Mexico article from 2/2011. I just read the misfit grocery and I liked that (but I did not like her Ikea piece).
So, each get a thumbs up…
Glad I don’t have to make the decision!
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I’d echo points above RE: writers not writing fresh articles, BUT more importantly, I had a question about the last writer, Karawynn Long.
JD wrote “… [she]has been blogging since long before “blog” was even a word. In fact, she was one of the prime reasons I started blogging myself.” = If so, perhaps there could be an explanation of why she is doing this?
I’m not trying to be antagonistic, but the immediate impression I got was that Karawynn must be unsuccessful as a blogger herself, which is why she’s doing this? Perhaps I am wrong, but that was my first thought… Maybe it’s simply the way JD wrote the sentence?
[Then again, even if I was right, better to keep trying than not at all!]
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Maybe Karawynn just likes to blog, and doesn’t really care if she gets 10 readers a day or 10 thousand. I think it’s remarkable she’s been blogging that long, actually – most folks get excited about their blog, type out a few posts, then forget about it.
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Why is there an assumption that longevity with blogging should automatically mean a high income?
Only a very small percentage of the blogging world will ever make a dune.
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I vote for Karawynn Long!!
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I have no intention of clicking through and reading most of these articles, and I doubt most people will. I think it’s a real disadvantage to lump all of these “audition pieces” into a list of links. Were they warned in advance that this would be their audition?
Also, i agree with others who have said that there are so many audition pieces, I can’t imagine choosing between them.
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