This post is by staff writer Sarah Gilbert.
By now, lots and lots of people know that Anne-Marie Slaughter doesn’t have it all. Even though she was extremely high-powered, as Director of Policy Planning for the U.S. State Department under Hillary Clinton for two years, she was not a perfect mom during that time, getting on a train to Washington, D.C. each Monday morning at 5:30 a.m. and returning home late Friday night. Her teenage son wasn’t talking to her and her 12-year-old was more bonded to her husband than to her.
She says everything’s better now that she’s back to her normal “low-powered” job: teaching at Princeton, writing 12,750-word cover stories for The Atlantic, and traveling around the world on the speaking tour in her off-hours. She’s more able to be flexible for the inevitable crises of teen boys, and she has a lot of time to think about how the world — especially the U.S. — is set up all wrong to let women be the superstars of home and career we all believe they should be.
If I sound snarky, it’s not intended. I’m so much like Anne-Marie, except for the part about “extremely high-powered” and “Hillary Clinton” and “Princeton University.”
I’m Anne-Marie Slaughter!
We’re all Anne-Marie Slaughter.
My story began in high school, where I was student body president and valedictorian and an editor for the paper and a “Royal C” athlete. I won a scholarship to a prestigious small liberal arts college and got a degree, with honors. I vaulted straight into investment banking, then Ivy League MBA program, then Merrill Lynch. I got into dotcom management. I was a COO at 29.
This is when I also became pregnant with my first child, a move I blithely thought wouldn’t make much difference.
It made a difference to my bosses.
I left that job under bad circumstances (though my boss later hired me back for another project, apologizing for his hasty judgment of me back then) when I failed to successfully juggle 10+-hour days and an infant. By the time I was pregnant with my third boy, I was working for AOL in another pretty high-powered job. One of my bosses announced she was stepping down and I angled to replace her. I had all the requisite experience and skills. The timing was perfect!
They said my impending maternity leave had nothing to do with the fact the job was given to a man (who I admired, to be sure) who had no children.
A year-and-a-half later I was, to be honest, failing. My job really required 10 or more hours a day of absolute focused dedication. My oldest child was — like Anne-Marie Slaughter’s — having very desperate behavioral problems, requiring frequent meetings with school officials and early pick-ups. My youngest child was given to angry fits in which he would pull every single thing off my desk and bookshelves. My middle child seemed sweet, but he was seriously speech-delayed and would end up being diagnosed with autism spectrum disorder (a mild case), only after I’d insisted on not one, but two, months-long and very involved educational assessments.
“I need someone who can give more than 100%,” said my boss.
“I can’t do that,” I said.
I Quit
I quit my job that day. It was the best “quitting” I’ve ever gone through; I transitioned seamlessly into a freelance position that paid fairly well and required zero conference calls and never ever a traffic report or meaningless growth spreadsheet. Over time I would accept less work when my kids were having a really hard time, and more when they were doing well. I let my husband take over as chief breadwinner (admittedly, this is still something we’re working out; it’s not easy for either of us, and you’ll probably see a column from me soon on money and relationships). I began to have more time to devote to my real passions, including more literary writing. Eventually, I won an award that gave me a leg up into other opportunities, and realized one day that I was traveling upward in another career.
One day some other parents and I decided we should start a parenting literary magazine. And I vowed to myself as I began to never let any of us put this project before our kids, our spouses, or our parents, no matter how great it was or could be. But I don’t think any of us have to vow to each other, because it’s just assumed. It’s part of our fabric now.
What Anne-Marie Slaughter Can’t Have
I think Anne-Marie Slaughter did a pretty good job of setting up what she called “revaluing family values.” Her premise is that caring for a family should be as respected as any other work/life balance decisions we make. She compared devoting time to the needs of children to devoting time to training for a marathon; or following an observant faith tradition. Later she suggests that family-friendly policies are an innovation whose time has come.
What she doesn’t mention is that it’s not only young children who need to be re-valued, but all families; and, in my opinion, this whole life that is outside of work, that everyone has outside of work. Except for some creative pursuits (I often tell myself that, for a writer, every minute of every day is part of my work), there is no job that can exist without some life outside of it.
“Real Life.”
In a discussion on the radio here in Portland, I couldn’t help but call in and tell my story. Later a man called in who said something like, “You mothers need to stop complaining about your kids and get to work! That’s your real life, work!”
I can’t agree. I believe that a career — even a super rewarding career made up out of whole cloth, like mine, or a super important career, like directing international policy or working in a pediatric emergency room — should never be “real life.” Real life is what your career should support. And any time your career is encroaching so much that you have no real life, that you are calling in to radio stations and claiming real life equals work, I fear that you may be missing the point of all this.
There may not be plentiful jobs out there, but there are plentiful ways of finding a better life by making different choices. They are things we talk about every day here at Get Rich Slowly, whether it is choices to rent an apartment instead of buying a house; or riding a bike or taking the bus instead of driving; or sending your kids to public school instead of private. Whatever job you have, I guarantee that there is — somewhere out there — a job that demands somewhat less than all of your life.
Family First
You know the cliche about people on their deathbeds never saying, “oh, I wish I’d worked harder!” (It’s cliche, but true.) Whether you call your offspring and your spouse your family; or your siblings and parents; or you’ve created a family that’s less traditional, with neighbors and friends not connected by blood; I doubt anyone really wants to be the guy or gal who has achieved everything that our society agrees equals “having it all” at the expense of any loved ones.
My friend and babysitter used to work at the airport, preparing airplanes for the wealthy people who have their own. He was telling me Tuesday night about a billionaire who has every success one could imagine: He founded one of the biggest companies in the world. He was vastly wealthy and dated famous, beautiful people. He owned sports teams. (I won’t go on, because it’ll be too obvious.)
But every time he got into a jet or a limo he would sit in his seat without talking to the people around him, nearly all of whom were always paid employees. He was alone and silent. Perhaps once he arrived at one of his mansions or apartments he conducted some richly happy life, but to all appearances he was miserable.
Getting It All
Whether or not the billionaire is happy is beside the point, really. I have my own life, and I will probably never found one of the biggest companies in the world. I probably won’t get the Nobel Peace Prize nor work for the President. I think back to that job I wanted when I was pregnant with my youngest and I am only happy I didn’t get it. I think back to my life as an investment banker and remember how great the work was, how great the money was, and how conflicted I would be every day if I did that now.
I’m happy now — stressed and busy and not at all wealthy and happy. And if I could give job seekers any advice it would be to tell all about how much you love your family in that interview. “I can do the job and will do it well,” you should say, “but I do love my time with my kids/spouse/siblings/rich community of friends.”
If you’re not hired because of this, I would be willing to bet this will avoid a future of conflicts over which is, indeed, your “real life.”
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Not everyone has as stressful a job as either of these examples. Not every job requires this sort of time investment. I guess if you really want to “have it all” you need to approach your life from a more “looking at the big picture” perspective. If you want a family or a have a hobby that takes up a lot of time and energy, then you’re going to have to consider that when you look at job options. Can you balance a career and family? Sure. Can you do it with every job? Probably not, so that has to be part of the decision making process when you and your spouse discuss having a family or taking that new high stress job.
I don’t think it’s fair to use these extremely high stress, high prestige jobs as examples, and then make a general assumption that the idea of having it all is a myth. No one, man or woman, goes into politics expecting it to be a balanced life in any sort of sense, do they? I had a friend who worked on the last campaign, and there were days he only got two hours sleep. And he was low level.
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Great post Sarah!
The workplace is a very cold and hard place for families. When I was in my thirties thought I owe it to myself to give everything I got to my work, you know, push it harder, going farther everytime in order to make it and to feel the accomplishments and rewards of my job. Later I regreted not being with my daughter as much as she needed me when she was growing up. Not having the patience to cook a cake with her or teach her math or simply just having lunch with her. It is never too late, I now spend more time with her, disconnect from my job duties during the weekends and just enjoy her talk and presence for as long as I can. I agree completely with your experience. Thank you for sharing.
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A few thoughts on the subject. Do women have to have it all when they are young? why cant they be stay at home moms for the first decade and then gradually get into work as the kids grow older and be full on workoholics when the kids have left home. By then there husbands are fed up with being workoholics and they can cut back on high level stress.
In some countries there is a high amount of small family run business….where the business is downstairs and the family is living upstairs….eg the Chinese shop houses of SE Asia. The baby is in a crib in the corner of the store and the older child is helping in the store. This seems to be a much better way of making money and have a life.
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A decade ago I had an upwardly mobile career that required 60+ hours per week. I also had a young boy with autism and a newborn baby, neither of which I saw for more than a few minutes at bedtime during the week.
I decided to leave that world, putting family first, in 2004. We’ve had some financial ups and downs since then, but I love being such a big part of my boys’ lives, and vice versa.
By the numbers, this wasn’t a very good decision. But some things are bigger than the numbers. Today my 8-yr old emailed me a picture with an inside joke message – what a great feeling! You don’t get that bond unless you spend time with your family..
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So the authoer used to be an over-achiever in the work place, and now is an over-achiever parent/freelancer/author/literary parenting mag impresario.
There are plenty of people (myself and everyone I work with included) who put in their 8 hours, goof off a lot at work, clock out and go home and live their fulfilling personal lives and don’t think about work again until they clock back in and don’t need to be told that work isn’t that important.
Once a workaholic, always a workaholic, just in a different place, is the moral of this story to me.
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“I’m happy now — stressed and busy and not at all wealthy and happy. ”
I’d rather be “wealthy and happy” than “happy, stressed and busy”
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I have always been concerned how ‘modern civilised’ life demands more of our time away from our homes and families so that we can provide for them. Less ‘civilised’ societies can provide for their families in much less time. I really believe that what are described as ‘whole-life’ jobs in the article are really no-life jobs.
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Interesting article, and comments, too.
I’m surprised no one has pointed out how sad it is that most of us, in this forum, anyway, don’t seem to consider our jobs our “real lives”. Most of us spend enough hours at work that we need to consider it very real indeed and discover ways, beyond the monetary, to value the time we spend there and allow it to enrich us. How else can we be invested in what we do? And if we can’t be invested in big chunks of our waking hours, something’s clearly gone wrong.
Even if your job doesn’t top your list of priorities, even if it’s not what you want to do forever, it’s part of the life you’re living, right now. That’s plenty real.
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Thank you for putting into words what I’ve been thinking and wanted to say for many years. Every day I feel the struggle, the pull and the balance, always shorting someone or something.
It’s hard to stand up for your ‘other’ non career life and yet somehow still achieve., still compete, still prove out equality.
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This article makes me sad and frankly frustrated. Where is the kids father and what about his responisbilities? Nobody presumes that a man that makes a career is suppose to fix their “perfect” life and house by themselves. But somehow that is espected of women and they should also be wonderful daughters, wifes and hostesses. Seriously, nobody can do it all. Get help from nannies, help with cleaning and gardens. Your kids would rather have a happy mom then a mum that is miserable at home. Choose an employer that values result and not face time. Then you can spend time with the kids and if necessary do the work that is needed after the kids are at sleep. Personally I would never get kids with a man that would not take half of the responsibility most of the time!
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Uncle Sam keeps sending him on extended trips abroad….
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I enjoyed this post. Gilbert seems to be writing that she did what worked for her and her family. Yet, still, the comments are ablaze with the mommy wars. Live and let live and do what works for you and your family.
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I too get frustrated by the so-called “mommy wars.” But let me play the devil’s advocate here and also point out that I think the term “mommy wars” is dismissive and ultimately unhelpful. Why is it that when women discuss something, even if they are doing is respectively, it is labeled a “mommy war”? It’s the same as when a woman gets at all assertive, all of the sudden someone will come out with a “meow” or the mention of an ensuing cat fight. This is just another way to marginalize female discussion.
It is a deeply gendered way of looking at things. When men argue they are supposedly discussing – when women do it, they are warring. We roll our eyes and make fun it.
The decisions women make and the passion with which they discuss them continue precisely because the world of employment and motherhood is still a difficult place to navigate. This article was just another exploration of that tension, and I would hate for personal reactions to a thought provoking post to be marginalized by a dismissive term.
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I needed to read this, especially with the audition post I wrote… It’s all about priorities, and realizing what’s really important. Thanks for the reminder.
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