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	<title>Comments on: Showered With Needs</title>
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		<title>By: Valerie</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2012/07/05/showered-with-needs/comment-page-2/#comment-2855262</link>
		<dc:creator>Valerie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2012 18:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with most comments that 10 showers is excessive.  If someone wants to throw you a shower, you can say, &quot;thank you, but no we&#039;d already had 2 showers and wouldn&#039;t want to burden our friends and family with more.&quot;  I can&#039;t imagine going along with that many showers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with most comments that 10 showers is excessive.  If someone wants to throw you a shower, you can say, &#8220;thank you, but no we&#8217;d already had 2 showers and wouldn&#8217;t want to burden our friends and family with more.&#8221;  I can&#8217;t imagine going along with that many showers.</p>
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		<title>By: Claire</title>
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		<dc:creator>Claire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2012 07:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;My wife and I come from humble, hard working, and by no means elitist families. We are products of teachers and railroad men...&quot;

Well, that just makes it even worse.  You let your circle of &quot;humble, hardworking&quot; people shell out money for ten showers so you and your fiancee?  In this economy???

Talk about taking advantage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;My wife and I come from humble, hard working, and by no means elitist families. We are products of teachers and railroad men&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, that just makes it even worse.  You let your circle of &#8220;humble, hardworking&#8221; people shell out money for ten showers so you and your fiancee?  In this economy???</p>
<p>Talk about taking advantage.</p>
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		<title>By: my honest answer</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2012/07/05/showered-with-needs/comment-page-1/#comment-2850002</link>
		<dc:creator>my honest answer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2012 10:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was going to give you the benefit of the doubt since your explanation seemed very genuine. Until I read about your wife being given sheets. So, er, you don&#039;t sleep on the bed too? Your wife is incapable of hammering in a nail? They bought the gifts for both of you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was going to give you the benefit of the doubt since your explanation seemed very genuine. Until I read about your wife being given sheets. So, er, you don&#8217;t sleep on the bed too? Your wife is incapable of hammering in a nail? They bought the gifts for both of you.</p>
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		<title>By: MamaMia</title>
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		<dc:creator>MamaMia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2012 18:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suspect that your comment gets to the heart of why readers have objected so strongly to this article. Most of us, I think, are sympathizing with the author&#039;s family members, friends, and co-workers, many of whom we imagine — in this economy — to be struggling themselves and unable to afford gifts for ten showers (plus a wedding). Yes, maybe they seemed eager to throw the showers and give the gifts, but that doesn&#039;t make it right. 

I know that my own annoyance with this article had more to do with the author&#039;s apparent disregard for his loved ones&#039; own financial circumstances than any greed or sense of entitlement on his part. 

One of my goals in becoming financially independent has been to help set my own loved ones free of *their* burdens. I don&#039;t think I&#039;m alone here. 

In any case, thanks to the author for clarifying your situation in your follow-up. I hope that you can walk away from this having learned a useful lesson, rather than just hurt feelings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect that your comment gets to the heart of why readers have objected so strongly to this article. Most of us, I think, are sympathizing with the author&#8217;s family members, friends, and co-workers, many of whom we imagine — in this economy — to be struggling themselves and unable to afford gifts for ten showers (plus a wedding). Yes, maybe they seemed eager to throw the showers and give the gifts, but that doesn&#8217;t make it right. </p>
<p>I know that my own annoyance with this article had more to do with the author&#8217;s apparent disregard for his loved ones&#8217; own financial circumstances than any greed or sense of entitlement on his part. </p>
<p>One of my goals in becoming financially independent has been to help set my own loved ones free of *their* burdens. I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;m alone here. </p>
<p>In any case, thanks to the author for clarifying your situation in your follow-up. I hope that you can walk away from this having learned a useful lesson, rather than just hurt feelings.</p>
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		<title>By: Eileen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eileen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2012 02:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Given that we&#039;ve had these audition pieces for what feels like three years, I think JD checked out a looong time ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given that we&#8217;ve had these audition pieces for what feels like three years, I think JD checked out a looong time ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Lindsay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lindsay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2012 23:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We just set the stockings down in front of the hearth or the tree, they&#039;re too full of fruit and nuts to hang anyway. :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We just set the stockings down in front of the hearth or the tree, they&#8217;re too full of fruit and nuts to hang anyway. <img src='http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Lindsay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lindsay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2012 23:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the post could have been better if it weren&#039;t for the 10 showers. The number is ridiculous and everyone is focusing on that. It is good advice to tell people to put practical things that they actually will use on their registries. 

When my cousin got married and I went to her registry, I wondered if she was opening up a restaurant or something, there were so many kitchen and dining items on there, way more things than I think she would ever use. Some people, when it&#039;s time to set up a registry, go a little nuts. It&#039;s good for them to temper themselves and remember, (at least for most of us) 200 people aren&#039;t going to be buying gifts for you. So if you really want that measuring bowl set, you may not actually get it if it&#039;s one item out of 200 you put on your registry. I would make sure to have items on their that range from $5-30 so that anyone can afford to buy you a gift, but also don&#039;t shy away from putting big ticket items on there, because a group of friends may decide to go in together to get something for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the post could have been better if it weren&#8217;t for the 10 showers. The number is ridiculous and everyone is focusing on that. It is good advice to tell people to put practical things that they actually will use on their registries. </p>
<p>When my cousin got married and I went to her registry, I wondered if she was opening up a restaurant or something, there were so many kitchen and dining items on there, way more things than I think she would ever use. Some people, when it&#8217;s time to set up a registry, go a little nuts. It&#8217;s good for them to temper themselves and remember, (at least for most of us) 200 people aren&#8217;t going to be buying gifts for you. So if you really want that measuring bowl set, you may not actually get it if it&#8217;s one item out of 200 you put on your registry. I would make sure to have items on their that range from $5-30 so that anyone can afford to buy you a gift, but also don&#8217;t shy away from putting big ticket items on there, because a group of friends may decide to go in together to get something for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Lindsay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lindsay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2012 23:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone is upset with the author for having 10 showers, but you don&#039;t throw your own showers, they&#039;re thrown for you, and in my experience are supposed to be a surprise, so I don&#039;t see how it is the author&#039;s fault that he had 10 showers.

But while I can defend the author on that point, I&#039;m then confused as to how you set up a theme for a shower that someone else is throwing for you.

The good advice for any life event where you know people are going to buy you gifts, is to go ahead and set up a registry. If there isn&#039;t that much that you actually need, then I would recommend signing up for things that you want but wouldn&#039;t ordinarily buy for yourself (like high-count sheets - that was my registry splurge, and some friends went in together to buy them for me).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone is upset with the author for having 10 showers, but you don&#8217;t throw your own showers, they&#8217;re thrown for you, and in my experience are supposed to be a surprise, so I don&#8217;t see how it is the author&#8217;s fault that he had 10 showers.</p>
<p>But while I can defend the author on that point, I&#8217;m then confused as to how you set up a theme for a shower that someone else is throwing for you.</p>
<p>The good advice for any life event where you know people are going to buy you gifts, is to go ahead and set up a registry. If there isn&#8217;t that much that you actually need, then I would recommend signing up for things that you want but wouldn&#8217;t ordinarily buy for yourself (like high-count sheets &#8211; that was my registry splurge, and some friends went in together to buy them for me).</p>
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		<title>By: Leah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2012 19:42:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t have any showers for our wedding.  We did register for some stuff (mostly, place settings, as we had never actually gone out and gotten dishes) at the insistence of our relatives who *wanted* to buy gifts.  My aunts actually threw me a mini-shower the night after the wedding, since they were in town, to give me even more presents I hadn&#039;t asked for.  It was nice, and I love the items they gifted us, but I&#039;m glad I didn&#039;t have more showers.

re: babies, we did just throw a second baby shower for a friend, mostly because we wanted to.  We decided to do a book shower, so everyone got a kid&#039;s book or two that they love to give her.  I thought that was a tasteful and nice alternative.  Plus, she did not initiate the shower (and somewhat protested at first), but most of us hadn&#039;t been around to do a shower for her first. 

It seems, to me, that there are tasteful and not tasteful ways to celebrate milestone happenings in life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t have any showers for our wedding.  We did register for some stuff (mostly, place settings, as we had never actually gone out and gotten dishes) at the insistence of our relatives who *wanted* to buy gifts.  My aunts actually threw me a mini-shower the night after the wedding, since they were in town, to give me even more presents I hadn&#8217;t asked for.  It was nice, and I love the items they gifted us, but I&#8217;m glad I didn&#8217;t have more showers.</p>
<p>re: babies, we did just throw a second baby shower for a friend, mostly because we wanted to.  We decided to do a book shower, so everyone got a kid&#8217;s book or two that they love to give her.  I thought that was a tasteful and nice alternative.  Plus, she did not initiate the shower (and somewhat protested at first), but most of us hadn&#8217;t been around to do a shower for her first. </p>
<p>It seems, to me, that there are tasteful and not tasteful ways to celebrate milestone happenings in life.</p>
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		<title>By: Jane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2012 11:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a different opinion when it comes to wedding showers versus baby showers. I personally don&#039;t like the former, but I LOVE the latter. I&#039;m just a sucker for those itty bitty clothes. I love buying them. Plus is it easy to come up with a nice looking baby shower gift for $10-$15. It&#039;s hard to do that with a wedding shower.

Now that I have children of my own, I also love going to baby showers to talk. It takes me back to the days when I was pregnant - both the joys and the discomforts. I also enjoy talking to other parents and gleaning wisdom from them about the difficult job of child rearing.

Usually the vibe at a wedding shower is much different, but I think perhaps in Will&#039;s circle&#039;s the atmosphere could have approximated what I have experienced at baby showers. Maybe they sat around and discussed the joys and struggles of marriage. This could also explain his overly positive portrayal of them and feeling blessed by ten of them. He doesn&#039;t strike me from this post or his other one as someone who is overly materialistic. I know others interpreted it differently, but I don&#039;t see him discussing over-the-top items - a hammer and nails? That&#039;s far cry from Lalique crystal.  

When I first read 10 showers, I thought, really? But then I realized that we had six baby showers. And no one who attended these went to more than one.

Here&#039;s the breakdown - my work, my husband&#039;s work, family (in another town), close friends, church, and our neighbors.

None of these were elaborate events. The work ones took place in the break room with a few snacks. If Will and his now wife live in a different city from where they grew up, I imagine they could easily get to ten and never have repeat attenders. If they are at all religious, they could have had showers at the church they attend, the two churches they grew up in, etc. It really adds up. I think the main flaw of the post was its vagueness and the fact that he didn&#039;t realize that the number TEN would appall people so much. I wish J.D. or another editor had pressed him to break down the showers and explain that they probably weren&#039;t elaborate catered affairs with ice sculptures.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a different opinion when it comes to wedding showers versus baby showers. I personally don&#8217;t like the former, but I LOVE the latter. I&#8217;m just a sucker for those itty bitty clothes. I love buying them. Plus is it easy to come up with a nice looking baby shower gift for $10-$15. It&#8217;s hard to do that with a wedding shower.</p>
<p>Now that I have children of my own, I also love going to baby showers to talk. It takes me back to the days when I was pregnant &#8211; both the joys and the discomforts. I also enjoy talking to other parents and gleaning wisdom from them about the difficult job of child rearing.</p>
<p>Usually the vibe at a wedding shower is much different, but I think perhaps in Will&#8217;s circle&#8217;s the atmosphere could have approximated what I have experienced at baby showers. Maybe they sat around and discussed the joys and struggles of marriage. This could also explain his overly positive portrayal of them and feeling blessed by ten of them. He doesn&#8217;t strike me from this post or his other one as someone who is overly materialistic. I know others interpreted it differently, but I don&#8217;t see him discussing over-the-top items &#8211; a hammer and nails? That&#8217;s far cry from Lalique crystal.  </p>
<p>When I first read 10 showers, I thought, really? But then I realized that we had six baby showers. And no one who attended these went to more than one.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the breakdown &#8211; my work, my husband&#8217;s work, family (in another town), close friends, church, and our neighbors.</p>
<p>None of these were elaborate events. The work ones took place in the break room with a few snacks. If Will and his now wife live in a different city from where they grew up, I imagine they could easily get to ten and never have repeat attenders. If they are at all religious, they could have had showers at the church they attend, the two churches they grew up in, etc. It really adds up. I think the main flaw of the post was its vagueness and the fact that he didn&#8217;t realize that the number TEN would appall people so much. I wish J.D. or another editor had pressed him to break down the showers and explain that they probably weren&#8217;t elaborate catered affairs with ice sculptures.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2012 10:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oops, this was supposed to be a reply to @Not My Mother @128</description>
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		<title>By: Nicole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2012 10:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It depends.  The ones who are truly poor and going through a frequent &quot;broke&quot; period didn&#039;t give us anything, and we&#039;re fine with that (not expecting anything in the first place, and definitely wishing they&#039;d take care of themselves first).  But yes, there is an economics literature in developing countries (that has not been translated to the US) about how this kind of social insurance discourages savings.  I&#039;m fairly sure there&#039;s a sociology literature about conspicuous consumption keeping folks down as well, but not as familiar with it.  But yes, if certain of DH&#039;s relatives acted more like my immigrant dad, they would have more wealth (and more ability to be generous without hurting themselves).  We still write checks or send gift cards to the next generation for weddings and babies, especially because we can well afford it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It depends.  The ones who are truly poor and going through a frequent &#8220;broke&#8221; period didn&#8217;t give us anything, and we&#8217;re fine with that (not expecting anything in the first place, and definitely wishing they&#8217;d take care of themselves first).  But yes, there is an economics literature in developing countries (that has not been translated to the US) about how this kind of social insurance discourages savings.  I&#8217;m fairly sure there&#8217;s a sociology literature about conspicuous consumption keeping folks down as well, but not as familiar with it.  But yes, if certain of DH&#8217;s relatives acted more like my immigrant dad, they would have more wealth (and more ability to be generous without hurting themselves).  We still write checks or send gift cards to the next generation for weddings and babies, especially because we can well afford it.</p>
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		<title>By: Herah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Herah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2012 03:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still have a bitter taste in my mouth from multiple showers thrown for my girlfriends sister. Going to a wedding is a gift grab that rubs me the wrong way. 

When her fiancé purchased a house, we threw him a housewarming party. 2 months later, she moved into his house. There was another housewarming party because she now lived there as well.

Then there was the bridal shower.
Then there was the bachellorette party, with gifts and a specific outfit required so we all matched at the bar that night (what??)
A second bridal shower thrown by friends, same list of attendees for the most part. 
Gifts given at the rehearsal dinner.
Wedding gift. 

7 gift giving parties in 3 month span, 3 of the parties requiring very specific attire to appease the bride, even if you weren&#039;t a bridesmaid.

Never again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still have a bitter taste in my mouth from multiple showers thrown for my girlfriends sister. Going to a wedding is a gift grab that rubs me the wrong way. </p>
<p>When her fiancé purchased a house, we threw him a housewarming party. 2 months later, she moved into his house. There was another housewarming party because she now lived there as well.</p>
<p>Then there was the bridal shower.<br />
Then there was the bachellorette party, with gifts and a specific outfit required so we all matched at the bar that night (what??)<br />
A second bridal shower thrown by friends, same list of attendees for the most part.<br />
Gifts given at the rehearsal dinner.<br />
Wedding gift. </p>
<p>7 gift giving parties in 3 month span, 3 of the parties requiring very specific attire to appease the bride, even if you weren&#8217;t a bridesmaid.</p>
<p>Never again.</p>
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		<title>By: Not My Mother</title>
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		<dc:creator>Not My Mother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2012 03:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; DH’s (extended working class rural) family seemed like it bought out several Hallmark stores worth of “First Christmas together” gifts. It must be something cultural. (See also: matching Baby’s First Christmas gifts after baby was born.)&quot;

I&#039;m going to go out on a limb here and say those working class relatives aren&#039;t very wealthy. Cultural or not, this sort of over the top gift giving is why.

(Honestly not a dig at you. Just observing the sort of spending habits we readers of GRS are learning to avoid.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; DH’s (extended working class rural) family seemed like it bought out several Hallmark stores worth of “First Christmas together” gifts. It must be something cultural. (See also: matching Baby’s First Christmas gifts after baby was born.)&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to go out on a limb here and say those working class relatives aren&#8217;t very wealthy. Cultural or not, this sort of over the top gift giving is why.</p>
<p>(Honestly not a dig at you. Just observing the sort of spending habits we readers of GRS are learning to avoid.)</p>
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		<title>By: Not My Mother</title>
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		<dc:creator>Not My Mother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2012 03:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will,
First, I&#039;d like to say csdx expressed perfectly the problems with your post, from why it doesn&#039;t work here in its current form (but might on the Knot) and how you SHOULD have spun it for a personal finance site like GRS.

Second though I think JD really let you down here letting it get posted as is He should have forseen the reactions and probably rejected it as not matching the focus of the blog. Audition pieces or not, he still has an editorial duty around here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will,<br />
First, I&#8217;d like to say csdx expressed perfectly the problems with your post, from why it doesn&#8217;t work here in its current form (but might on the Knot) and how you SHOULD have spun it for a personal finance site like GRS.</p>
<p>Second though I think JD really let you down here letting it get posted as is He should have forseen the reactions and probably rejected it as not matching the focus of the blog. Audition pieces or not, he still has an editorial duty around here.</p>
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		<title>By: KP</title>
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		<dc:creator>KP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2012 03:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK I agree that 10 showers is excessive. I had several sets of folks that wanted to celebrate with me when we got married.  My aunts had a tea for me and we spent the day catching up.

Now a comment for showers. I have attended several that were fun low key way of helping the bride to set up house.  The need to have several showers, seems to get in the way of getting ready to be married.

The best shower that I have attended was one my church through. The gifts were advice for staying married.  I took two razors and two tubes of toothpaste.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK I agree that 10 showers is excessive. I had several sets of folks that wanted to celebrate with me when we got married.  My aunts had a tea for me and we spent the day catching up.</p>
<p>Now a comment for showers. I have attended several that were fun low key way of helping the bride to set up house.  The need to have several showers, seems to get in the way of getting ready to be married.</p>
<p>The best shower that I have attended was one my church through. The gifts were advice for staying married.  I took two razors and two tubes of toothpaste.</p>
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		<title>By: amanda</title>
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		<dc:creator>amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2012 01:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems I may have a wedding shower to attend in my near future for someone that&#039;s an acquaintance but we&#039;re not really close.  She&#039;s getting tons of condoms.  Then I won&#039;t have to worry about a baby shower gift.  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems I may have a wedding shower to attend in my near future for someone that&#8217;s an acquaintance but we&#8217;re not really close.  She&#8217;s getting tons of condoms.  Then I won&#8217;t have to worry about a baby shower gift.  <img src='http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: amanda</title>
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		<dc:creator>amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2012 01:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m OK with a welcome shower, no gifts.  Or an open house or welcome dinner given by the parents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m OK with a welcome shower, no gifts.  Or an open house or welcome dinner given by the parents.</p>
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		<title>By: amanda</title>
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		<dc:creator>amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2012 01:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe you should cancel your registry.  Looking back I wish I never had one.  I feel dirty 5 years later.

I didn&#039;t really notice it until a former friend was SOO greedy at her baby shower and so sad about what she didn&#039;t get that she barely focused on what she did get.  I got her $200 worth of stuff off her registry.  Now we&#039;re not friends I wish I didn&#039;t even do that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe you should cancel your registry.  Looking back I wish I never had one.  I feel dirty 5 years later.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t really notice it until a former friend was SOO greedy at her baby shower and so sad about what she didn&#8217;t get that she barely focused on what she did get.  I got her $200 worth of stuff off her registry.  Now we&#8217;re not friends I wish I didn&#8217;t even do that.</p>
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		<title>By: Louise</title>
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		<dc:creator>Louise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2012 00:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure why people are so offended.  I found the piece amusing and didn&#039;t not take it too  seriously.  Lighten up people...geez.  You&#039;ve made your point.  Stop kicking the guy when he&#039;s already down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure why people are so offended.  I found the piece amusing and didn&#8217;t not take it too  seriously.  Lighten up people&#8230;geez.  You&#8217;ve made your point.  Stop kicking the guy when he&#8217;s already down.</p>
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		<title>By: jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2012 23:21:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WOW - seriously?????  If you were my kid I would have capped the showers at 2 - period!  This is just down right embarassing - for you and your spouse and both sets of parents involved. Really - if your kids are this immature where&#039;s the parental responsibility?  Why didn&#039;t any one of the (presumably) 4 parents have the decency and/or balls to just say &quot;NO&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW &#8211; seriously?????  If you were my kid I would have capped the showers at 2 &#8211; period!  This is just down right embarassing &#8211; for you and your spouse and both sets of parents involved. Really &#8211; if your kids are this immature where&#8217;s the parental responsibility?  Why didn&#8217;t any one of the (presumably) 4 parents have the decency and/or balls to just say &#8220;NO&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Marabeth Duncan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marabeth Duncan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2012 22:40:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that this post belongs on the knot, not here. For just a second though, I want to say - I just got married, we did it the traditional way, and the regular shower and surprise lingerie shower I was thrown were huge blessings to us. We both still had a year of college left and he was working part time. We might still not have a kitchen mixer or a bedspread if it weren&#039;t for my family and friend&#039;s kindness and generosity. Plus, I felt a huge encouragement in being surrounded at one time by all the awesome women who have set examples in marriage and life for me. Showers are meaningful, and I hope I get to shower presents on others many times in the future. 10 though - that&#039;s a bit tacky, I hope the bride wasn&#039;t asking for that! Hopefully she&#039;s just super popular!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that this post belongs on the knot, not here. For just a second though, I want to say &#8211; I just got married, we did it the traditional way, and the regular shower and surprise lingerie shower I was thrown were huge blessings to us. We both still had a year of college left and he was working part time. We might still not have a kitchen mixer or a bedspread if it weren&#8217;t for my family and friend&#8217;s kindness and generosity. Plus, I felt a huge encouragement in being surrounded at one time by all the awesome women who have set examples in marriage and life for me. Showers are meaningful, and I hope I get to shower presents on others many times in the future. 10 though &#8211; that&#8217;s a bit tacky, I hope the bride wasn&#8217;t asking for that! Hopefully she&#8217;s just super popular!</p>
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		<title>By: Melissa@LittleHouseInTheValley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melissa@LittleHouseInTheValley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2012 21:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We got married December 1st and got plenty of Christmas themed gifts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We got married December 1st and got plenty of Christmas themed gifts.</p>
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		<title>By: Katie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2012 20:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes! The main issue I had with this article (aside from its consumerist bent), was that these were ideas for people getting married. You don&#039;t get to choose the theme of your own shower! Heck, family members aren&#039;t even supposed to host the shower, for fear of it being seen as a gift grab (although this rule has definitely fallen away in my circle). 

I&#039;m getting married next month, and had zero input on my two showers, and knew next to nothing about what sort of showers they would be when I showed up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes! The main issue I had with this article (aside from its consumerist bent), was that these were ideas for people getting married. You don&#8217;t get to choose the theme of your own shower! Heck, family members aren&#8217;t even supposed to host the shower, for fear of it being seen as a gift grab (although this rule has definitely fallen away in my circle). </p>
<p>I&#8217;m getting married next month, and had zero input on my two showers, and knew next to nothing about what sort of showers they would be when I showed up!</p>
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		<title>By: Mom of five</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mom of five</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2012 20:35:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When we got married, we spread the word that we did not want any showers.  We knew how much the vast majority of our friends and family were struggling and it seemed mean to expect gifts from them before our wedding.    Maybe the stuff we had accumulated in our twenties didn&#039;t all match, but it was fine and in working condition.   My husband&#039;s family did throw us a little party where they put together a cute welcome to the family construction paper book for me - they listed all the family idiosyncracies with some creative illustrations.   That was the only gift.

I think if you put your foot down, people will honor your wishes.   If you don&#039;t put your foot down, *people will do what they believe is expected of them*.   And in most cases, it is expected that you spend $25 to $100 for each shower you attend.   At least that&#039;s the going rate here in Philadelphia.

I&#039;m with the folks here who think showers need to go.     This whole I&#039;m getting married so I want everything all shiny new and matching is sort of silly to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When we got married, we spread the word that we did not want any showers.  We knew how much the vast majority of our friends and family were struggling and it seemed mean to expect gifts from them before our wedding.    Maybe the stuff we had accumulated in our twenties didn&#8217;t all match, but it was fine and in working condition.   My husband&#8217;s family did throw us a little party where they put together a cute welcome to the family construction paper book for me &#8211; they listed all the family idiosyncracies with some creative illustrations.   That was the only gift.</p>
<p>I think if you put your foot down, people will honor your wishes.   If you don&#8217;t put your foot down, *people will do what they believe is expected of them*.   And in most cases, it is expected that you spend $25 to $100 for each shower you attend.   At least that&#8217;s the going rate here in Philadelphia.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m with the folks here who think showers need to go.     This whole I&#8217;m getting married so I want everything all shiny new and matching is sort of silly to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Dawn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2012 19:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For my first Christmas tree on my own, I mixed up some salt dough and baked star-shaped ornaments that I spray-painted gold. I also got packs of Victorian animal gift tags at a dollar store (giraffes and elephants and zebras) and hung them with colored thread. It was the weirdest, prettiest tree. Children were enchanted. People still talk about it. 
Frugality and creativity are rewarding like no amount of free stuff can ever be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For my first Christmas tree on my own, I mixed up some salt dough and baked star-shaped ornaments that I spray-painted gold. I also got packs of Victorian animal gift tags at a dollar store (giraffes and elephants and zebras) and hung them with colored thread. It was the weirdest, prettiest tree. Children were enchanted. People still talk about it.<br />
Frugality and creativity are rewarding like no amount of free stuff can ever be.</p>
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		<title>By: Courtney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Courtney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2012 19:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I come from this culture too, although I only had one wedding shower. We got a ton of stuff, and I&#039;m very thankful for all of it. I found the shower itself to be very awkward, as I can&#039;t stand to be the center of attention. :/ I don&#039;t know how I could get through 10 showers with people watching my reaction to their gifts!

I get what you&#039;re saying here about our culture, but I don&#039;t think Will knew his audience well enough, and that&#039;s why this article was met with such hostility. I also think the line-blurring between needs and wants was a huge no-no for a personal finance site. Part of the fun of being a poor newly married couple is finding creative ways to do things that you don&#039;t have money to do yet, like have Christmas decorations. Our solution to that was a few tiny stockings from Dollar Tree (we got one for the dog too, haha) and we hung them on a bookshelf with thumbtacks. I even sewed our names on them and I still put them up every year. Great Christmas memories, without high-priced decorations. I wouldn&#039;t trade it for anything. 

That&#039;s part of how you get rich slowly: get creative with both wants and needs, so you can do things like pay off student loans with Pizza Hut salary, and start to build wealth. 

I sincerely hope Will continues to write and learns from this experience without letting it get him down too much. I think his writing would be better suited for a site other than GRS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I come from this culture too, although I only had one wedding shower. We got a ton of stuff, and I&#8217;m very thankful for all of it. I found the shower itself to be very awkward, as I can&#8217;t stand to be the center of attention. :/ I don&#8217;t know how I could get through 10 showers with people watching my reaction to their gifts!</p>
<p>I get what you&#8217;re saying here about our culture, but I don&#8217;t think Will knew his audience well enough, and that&#8217;s why this article was met with such hostility. I also think the line-blurring between needs and wants was a huge no-no for a personal finance site. Part of the fun of being a poor newly married couple is finding creative ways to do things that you don&#8217;t have money to do yet, like have Christmas decorations. Our solution to that was a few tiny stockings from Dollar Tree (we got one for the dog too, haha) and we hung them on a bookshelf with thumbtacks. I even sewed our names on them and I still put them up every year. Great Christmas memories, without high-priced decorations. I wouldn&#8217;t trade it for anything. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s part of how you get rich slowly: get creative with both wants and needs, so you can do things like pay off student loans with Pizza Hut salary, and start to build wealth. </p>
<p>I sincerely hope Will continues to write and learns from this experience without letting it get him down too much. I think his writing would be better suited for a site other than GRS.</p>
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		<title>By: snerk1</title>
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		<dc:creator>snerk1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2012 19:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a long time reader but rarely comment. I feel like I want to chime in on the audition pieces. I am starting to feel like GRS has &quot;jumped the shark.&quot; I like having a variety of interesting topics but lately it just feels like a mess. The last time the call went out for staff writers it was very exciting. Even those not selected seemed to fit the site. Things do not appear to be as cohesive this time around. I think that maybe too many people have been given a chance to submit their work. 

As far as my preference for articles, I find Honey&#039;s stories refreshing. I loved reading about JD&#039;s struggles. It is harder to relate now because I am not where he is - even though we were in similar situations at the start! I like hearing about people who make mistakes and find a way through. It is nice that some people are financially savvy and make wise decisions from a young age, but those stories are not always compelling tales. They can also sound preachy. Give me someone who is imperfect and always looking for ways to learn and grow financially and as people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a long time reader but rarely comment. I feel like I want to chime in on the audition pieces. I am starting to feel like GRS has &#8220;jumped the shark.&#8221; I like having a variety of interesting topics but lately it just feels like a mess. The last time the call went out for staff writers it was very exciting. Even those not selected seemed to fit the site. Things do not appear to be as cohesive this time around. I think that maybe too many people have been given a chance to submit their work. </p>
<p>As far as my preference for articles, I find Honey&#8217;s stories refreshing. I loved reading about JD&#8217;s struggles. It is harder to relate now because I am not where he is &#8211; even though we were in similar situations at the start! I like hearing about people who make mistakes and find a way through. It is nice that some people are financially savvy and make wise decisions from a young age, but those stories are not always compelling tales. They can also sound preachy. Give me someone who is imperfect and always looking for ways to learn and grow financially and as people.</p>
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		<title>By: margot</title>
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		<dc:creator>margot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2012 18:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wedding culture in the U.S. is tacky and insane, and this article confirms that it&#039;s getting worse than I even imagined possible.  There&#039;s no excuse for 10 showers.  And, by the way, it&#039;s an etiquette breach to have family throw a shower.  Read Miss Manners or any etiquette guide. 

Your friends and family do enough by getting their butts to your wedding and presumably giving you a wedding gift.  Do you really need to extort them for more gifts in the name of a &quot;shower&quot;??  Or multiple showers??  What a bitter taste you must have left in so many people&#039;s mouths.  

We really need to go back to weddings being simple affairs at which the main focus was the fact that marriage is a profound, lifetime commitment between two people and their families.  Weddings have become way too much about gifts and consumerism and the dress and the party and the catering and all things superficial.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wedding culture in the U.S. is tacky and insane, and this article confirms that it&#8217;s getting worse than I even imagined possible.  There&#8217;s no excuse for 10 showers.  And, by the way, it&#8217;s an etiquette breach to have family throw a shower.  Read Miss Manners or any etiquette guide. </p>
<p>Your friends and family do enough by getting their butts to your wedding and presumably giving you a wedding gift.  Do you really need to extort them for more gifts in the name of a &#8220;shower&#8221;??  Or multiple showers??  What a bitter taste you must have left in so many people&#8217;s mouths.  </p>
<p>We really need to go back to weddings being simple affairs at which the main focus was the fact that marriage is a profound, lifetime commitment between two people and their families.  Weddings have become way too much about gifts and consumerism and the dress and the party and the catering and all things superficial.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope you received several etiquette books. Did you really throw your own showers or am I reading that wrong?




I can’t believe people really came to more then one. Maybe two for close family. Maybe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope you received several etiquette books. Did you really throw your own showers or am I reading that wrong?</p>
<p>I can’t believe people really came to more then one. Maybe two for close family. Maybe.</p>
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