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		<title>By: CB</title>
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		<dc:creator>CB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2012 04:47:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I spend around $250 per year on a subscription to Audible.com which is use mainly for professional development/personal development books.  Other than that most of my personal development is in the fitness category.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I spend around $250 per year on a subscription to Audible.com which is use mainly for professional development/personal development books.  Other than that most of my personal development is in the fitness category.</p>
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		<title>By: Amir Shani</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amir Shani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2012 13:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear J.D,
I enjoyed reading your post.
I LOVED the combination of bussiness and self improvement.
However I find that in my experience that self improvement is a full-time job that never ends
Regards,
Amir Shani, Author</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear J.D,<br />
I enjoyed reading your post.<br />
I LOVED the combination of bussiness and self improvement.<br />
However I find that in my experience that self improvement is a full-time job that never ends<br />
Regards,<br />
Amir Shani, Author</p>
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		<title>By: Ely</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ely</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2012 17:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the topic of helping others...

I&#039;ve spent a lot of time and energy to find the right balance of donating and volunteering. One year I gave a lot of money; another, I gave a lot of time to various things. I never felt like I was making a worthwhile difference, for myself or anyone else.

This year I signed up for a weekly volunteer gig at my local library. For some reason in the past I thought the library wasn&#039;t &#039;enough;&#039; it didn&#039;t feed the hungry or save lives or anything. But it&#039;s wonderful. I spend 2hrs/week surrounded by books and booky people, taking some of the load off the underpaid staff. They love it, I love it, and I&#039;m really coming to appreciate what the library provides for the community. It&#039;s perfect.
Does it improve the world? does it make me a better person? I don&#039;t know. But I&#039;m going to keep doing it anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the topic of helping others&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve spent a lot of time and energy to find the right balance of donating and volunteering. One year I gave a lot of money; another, I gave a lot of time to various things. I never felt like I was making a worthwhile difference, for myself or anyone else.</p>
<p>This year I signed up for a weekly volunteer gig at my local library. For some reason in the past I thought the library wasn&#8217;t &#8216;enough;&#8217; it didn&#8217;t feed the hungry or save lives or anything. But it&#8217;s wonderful. I spend 2hrs/week surrounded by books and booky people, taking some of the load off the underpaid staff. They love it, I love it, and I&#8217;m really coming to appreciate what the library provides for the community. It&#8217;s perfect.<br />
Does it improve the world? does it make me a better person? I don&#8217;t know. But I&#8217;m going to keep doing it anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: khadijah</title>
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		<dc:creator>khadijah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I spend a lot of TIME on my hobbies/self development, almost as much as my career. 

When I was learning the ukulele, I bought a decent inexpensive uke to practice on and told myself I&#039;m not to buy a nice one until I&#039;ve practiced till I develop calluses and my fingers bled. Taught myself from drills I found on the web, youtube videos. Taking a class once a week (1hr) isn&#039;t going to cut it. I practice everyday as if I had an asian tiger mom. Cost: Free

I started teaching myself Spanish, but reached a point in the curve where I could not improve much without interaction. Paid for classes at Cervantes Institute. Cost: ~$200/month.
Spanish Online resources: Free
Spanish Podcasts: Free
Spanish Movies and TV series: Free from library

Other online learning from Coursera, Udacity, NPTEL, MITx in various subjects: Free</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I spend a lot of TIME on my hobbies/self development, almost as much as my career. </p>
<p>When I was learning the ukulele, I bought a decent inexpensive uke to practice on and told myself I&#8217;m not to buy a nice one until I&#8217;ve practiced till I develop calluses and my fingers bled. Taught myself from drills I found on the web, youtube videos. Taking a class once a week (1hr) isn&#8217;t going to cut it. I practice everyday as if I had an asian tiger mom. Cost: Free</p>
<p>I started teaching myself Spanish, but reached a point in the curve where I could not improve much without interaction. Paid for classes at Cervantes Institute. Cost: ~$200/month.<br />
Spanish Online resources: Free<br />
Spanish Podcasts: Free<br />
Spanish Movies and TV series: Free from library</p>
<p>Other online learning from Coursera, Udacity, NPTEL, MITx in various subjects: Free</p>
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		<title>By: khadijah</title>
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		<dc:creator>khadijah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>+1.. activities and self development can LEAD to being a better person ie compassionate and ready and willing to help others. plus you&#039;re connecting with people and most self development programs and activities are done in groups or you consult other people who are doing the same. Sharing experience IS still sharing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>+1.. activities and self development can LEAD to being a better person ie compassionate and ready and willing to help others. plus you&#8217;re connecting with people and most self development programs and activities are done in groups or you consult other people who are doing the same. Sharing experience IS still sharing.</p>
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		<title>By: DiB</title>
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		<dc:creator>DiB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2012 21:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ve made the important distinction, though:

&quot;personal development&quot; vs. &quot;self improvement&quot;.

Semantics-schemantics?  As a side effect of my career I am basically required to be continually learning new technical skills and following trends, especially since I deal with a lot of post-production software which is ALWAYS developing further and further.  So look at it from a software perspective: it&#039;s always developing, but is it always &#039;improving&#039;?  No.  One is a process and the other is a quality.  

You do not need to spend a shiny penny on self-improvement.  Monetizing personal development is one method of attaining access to resources or even self-motivating the development --&gt; one can borrow Spanish books from the library or just exercise on their own floor, but a Spanish course and a gym provide monetary incentive, guidance, community, and tools you otherwise don&#039;t have immediately available.  

So in answer to your question I spend from $15 to $150 per month on personal development, depending on what I need to develop.  The $15 is a monthly subscription to lynda.com and the rest is if I need to buy more specialized tutorials from other people for specific projects I&#039;m working on.  

For self-improvement, I just try to be active and involved with as many communities of people possible, so that I can understand the world better.  And it&#039;s worked, as it&#039;s gotten me to far corners of the globe and rad experiences at home and anywhere I&#039;ve gone.  

--DiB</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve made the important distinction, though:</p>
<p>&#8220;personal development&#8221; vs. &#8220;self improvement&#8221;.</p>
<p>Semantics-schemantics?  As a side effect of my career I am basically required to be continually learning new technical skills and following trends, especially since I deal with a lot of post-production software which is ALWAYS developing further and further.  So look at it from a software perspective: it&#8217;s always developing, but is it always &#8216;improving&#8217;?  No.  One is a process and the other is a quality.  </p>
<p>You do not need to spend a shiny penny on self-improvement.  Monetizing personal development is one method of attaining access to resources or even self-motivating the development &#8211;&gt; one can borrow Spanish books from the library or just exercise on their own floor, but a Spanish course and a gym provide monetary incentive, guidance, community, and tools you otherwise don&#8217;t have immediately available.  </p>
<p>So in answer to your question I spend from $15 to $150 per month on personal development, depending on what I need to develop.  The $15 is a monthly subscription to lynda.com and the rest is if I need to buy more specialized tutorials from other people for specific projects I&#8217;m working on.  </p>
<p>For self-improvement, I just try to be active and involved with as many communities of people possible, so that I can understand the world better.  And it&#8217;s worked, as it&#8217;s gotten me to far corners of the globe and rad experiences at home and anywhere I&#8217;ve gone.  </p>
<p>&#8211;DiB</p>
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		<title>By: Tie the Money Knot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tie the Money Knot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2012 14:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Self-improvement can take on many definitions, and whatever works for each us is all good, right? In that case, I do work out and buy occasional books, but that&#039;s probably it. Really, I could probably spend more on personal development.  With kids, I tend to allocate limited resources toward their personal development though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Self-improvement can take on many definitions, and whatever works for each us is all good, right? In that case, I do work out and buy occasional books, but that&#8217;s probably it. Really, I could probably spend more on personal development.  With kids, I tend to allocate limited resources toward their personal development though.</p>
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		<title>By: SweetCoffee</title>
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		<dc:creator>SweetCoffee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 22:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great question!  My self-improvement needs to be FREE at the moment, and includes reading &quot;Get Rich Slowly&quot;, riding my bike to work for fitness/frugalness, reading library books to become a better parent...  And, yes,I do volunteer, but since the benefit is for others, I don&#039;t think of that as self-improvement. Sure, I feel good about myself and perhaps it gives a boost to my sense of self worth, but I personally don&#039;t think of volunteering as self-improvement and can&#039;t wrap my head around call it self-improvement, even after reading other&#039;s posts.

Related to an earlier discussion, I like the usual tone of GRS, where readers might say, &quot;I define self-worth differently...&quot;  instead of getting into arguments about semantics and who&#039;s right/wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great question!  My self-improvement needs to be FREE at the moment, and includes reading &#8220;Get Rich Slowly&#8221;, riding my bike to work for fitness/frugalness, reading library books to become a better parent&#8230;  And, yes,I do volunteer, but since the benefit is for others, I don&#8217;t think of that as self-improvement. Sure, I feel good about myself and perhaps it gives a boost to my sense of self worth, but I personally don&#8217;t think of volunteering as self-improvement and can&#8217;t wrap my head around call it self-improvement, even after reading other&#8217;s posts.</p>
<p>Related to an earlier discussion, I like the usual tone of GRS, where readers might say, &#8220;I define self-worth differently&#8230;&#8221;  instead of getting into arguments about semantics and who&#8217;s right/wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: csdx</title>
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		<dc:creator>csdx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 21:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Easy, blog about it or put up youtube videos, and collect profit!

Non snark:
Probably the most common idea is turning a hobby into a bit of a business. E.g. if you create something you can sell it (gardening, cooking, woodworking, etc). Of course you&#039;ll really be only able to do this once you&#039;ve gotten the basics but this can finance your improvement beyond though.

For things that don&#039;t produce tangible goods, it&#039;s a bit harder. If you want to be exercise more, take up a side job that requires manual labor, lawncare, dog walking, etc. Other goals like seeing the world, or learning a new language will likely require a big upheaval in your life if you want to be paid to do that. The basic example is go out and work in a foreign country, see the place and pick up the language.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Easy, blog about it or put up youtube videos, and collect profit!</p>
<p>Non snark:<br />
Probably the most common idea is turning a hobby into a bit of a business. E.g. if you create something you can sell it (gardening, cooking, woodworking, etc). Of course you&#8217;ll really be only able to do this once you&#8217;ve gotten the basics but this can finance your improvement beyond though.</p>
<p>For things that don&#8217;t produce tangible goods, it&#8217;s a bit harder. If you want to be exercise more, take up a side job that requires manual labor, lawncare, dog walking, etc. Other goals like seeing the world, or learning a new language will likely require a big upheaval in your life if you want to be paid to do that. The basic example is go out and work in a foreign country, see the place and pick up the language.</p>
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		<title>By: Debbie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Debbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 21:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Before our income dropped 90%, i spent money on banjo lessons and just about any book i deemed a good read. We&#039;ve moved to a fairly remote area, so no banjo teachers or bookstores; or the money to afford them. I do still order books occasionally, but i do miss not keeping up with music that i love. I tried to continue on my own, but i just don&#039;t have what it takes. I had to give up running,(arthritis), but i switched to long walks. That helps my mood by a mile! I hope i&#039;m done &#039;giving up&#039; things, thogh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before our income dropped 90%, i spent money on banjo lessons and just about any book i deemed a good read. We&#8217;ve moved to a fairly remote area, so no banjo teachers or bookstores; or the money to afford them. I do still order books occasionally, but i do miss not keeping up with music that i love. I tried to continue on my own, but i just don&#8217;t have what it takes. I had to give up running,(arthritis), but i switched to long walks. That helps my mood by a mile! I hope i&#8217;m done &#8216;giving up&#8217; things, thogh.</p>
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		<title>By: Lindsey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lindsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 18:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Helping others does not necessarily make you a better person. Apparently, based on some of these comments, it can also make you judgmental and can give you a false sense of superiority. Helping others to make yourself feel superior to others is not generosity.

On the other hand, how annoying are those pretentious people that think they&#039;re the greatest because they can speak many languages, are artists, etc. and love to tell you about it?

No matter what your definition is of &#039;self-improvement,&#039; let&#039;s just try and be a bit more humble about it and thinking our way is the best way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Helping others does not necessarily make you a better person. Apparently, based on some of these comments, it can also make you judgmental and can give you a false sense of superiority. Helping others to make yourself feel superior to others is not generosity.</p>
<p>On the other hand, how annoying are those pretentious people that think they&#8217;re the greatest because they can speak many languages, are artists, etc. and love to tell you about it?</p>
<p>No matter what your definition is of &#8216;self-improvement,&#8217; let&#8217;s just try and be a bit more humble about it and thinking our way is the best way.</p>
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		<title>By: Priswell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Priswell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 16:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t see that spending a few bucks on a gym membership or learning a language or going to school can&#039;t be considered self-improvement, if you can make room in your budget for it. 

You aren&#039;t obligated to &lt;em&gt;always&lt;/em&gt; spend your last dollars on helping others. Should we all feel obligated to &lt;em&gt;only&lt;/em&gt; spend our extra time, money and talents on helping others? I do think it&#039;s a good idea to contribute time, money and efforts on helping others, and I do that myself, but setting aside some time in my schedule to do something I get something out of both educationally and emotionally, allows me to be a healthier person, mentally.

It&#039;s always about balance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t see that spending a few bucks on a gym membership or learning a language or going to school can&#8217;t be considered self-improvement, if you can make room in your budget for it. </p>
<p>You aren&#8217;t obligated to <em>always</em> spend your last dollars on helping others. Should we all feel obligated to <em>only</em> spend our extra time, money and talents on helping others? I do think it&#8217;s a good idea to contribute time, money and efforts on helping others, and I do that myself, but setting aside some time in my schedule to do something I get something out of both educationally and emotionally, allows me to be a healthier person, mentally.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s always about balance.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 16:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First time to comment here, J.D.

I agree 100%.  In a move that would certainly make you proud, I actually stopped paying $55/month for a gym membership to purchase a gently used weight set, weights included, for $300 and treadmill for $100.  I&#039;ve already made my money&#039;s worth, and then some!

Don&#039;t pay outrageous gym membership fees if you can get the same workout at home for a fraction of the price!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First time to comment here, J.D.</p>
<p>I agree 100%.  In a move that would certainly make you proud, I actually stopped paying $55/month for a gym membership to purchase a gently used weight set, weights included, for $300 and treadmill for $100.  I&#8217;ve already made my money&#8217;s worth, and then some!</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t pay outrageous gym membership fees if you can get the same workout at home for a fraction of the price!</p>
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		<title>By: CA</title>
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		<dc:creator>CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 16:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obviously, it depends on how broad one defines the category.  I exclude travel, professional/job development stuff, and leisure activities.  I don’t know – for me, I lump it as more of personal satisfaction rather than pure fun or professional/expection of financial gain, if that makes any sense.  This category of the budget is pretty stable year over year, but the individual expenses change quite a bit.  Right now, we’ve got Ironman in a few months, so most is related to tri stuff.

Tri Coach:  $450/mo.
Swim Coach: $150/mo.
Personal Trainer:  $200/mo.
Gear: $250/mo.

I also have a line item for tuition because at least one of us is always taking classes at the local universities.  $250/mo.

I also include publications like The Economist, WSJ, etc, which aren’t really related to my job, but aren’t quite leisure activities either.  $50/mo.

As a matter of context, it takes up less than 5% of income.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obviously, it depends on how broad one defines the category.  I exclude travel, professional/job development stuff, and leisure activities.  I don’t know – for me, I lump it as more of personal satisfaction rather than pure fun or professional/expection of financial gain, if that makes any sense.  This category of the budget is pretty stable year over year, but the individual expenses change quite a bit.  Right now, we’ve got Ironman in a few months, so most is related to tri stuff.</p>
<p>Tri Coach:  $450/mo.<br />
Swim Coach: $150/mo.<br />
Personal Trainer:  $200/mo.<br />
Gear: $250/mo.</p>
<p>I also have a line item for tuition because at least one of us is always taking classes at the local universities.  $250/mo.</p>
<p>I also include publications like The Economist, WSJ, etc, which aren’t really related to my job, but aren’t quite leisure activities either.  $50/mo.</p>
<p>As a matter of context, it takes up less than 5% of income.</p>
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		<title>By: JoDi</title>
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		<dc:creator>JoDi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 15:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure you have a subset of commenters who oppose &quot;personal development.&quot; I think the problem lies here: &quot;Basically, how much do you spend on becoming a better person?&quot; I really think you derailed the comments yourself when you equated &quot;self-improvement&quot; with becoming a &quot;better person.&quot; 

The things you described in your post are &quot;hobbies&quot; and &quot;interests.&quot; They are personal accomplishments. When you equate doing any of these things in themselves with becoming a better human being, you&#039;ve lost a lot of people. Is a person who can speak a second language a better person than they were before? No, they&#039;re a more accomplished person. I think most people would say becoming a &quot;better person&quot; involves developing qualities that improve how you treat everyone around you, qualities like loyalty, kindness, generosity, honesty, integrity, and compassion.

I personally spend a fair amount of money on activities that help me develop my abilities. I belong to a gym, take classes in my field and for personal interest, and read lots of books. I love to learn so I&#039;m always trying out something new. 

I work on becoming a better person by studying the Bible and really working to apply its timeless counsel on how to act and how to treat others. That&#039;s a different thing entirely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure you have a subset of commenters who oppose &#8220;personal development.&#8221; I think the problem lies here: &#8220;Basically, how much do you spend on becoming a better person?&#8221; I really think you derailed the comments yourself when you equated &#8220;self-improvement&#8221; with becoming a &#8220;better person.&#8221; </p>
<p>The things you described in your post are &#8220;hobbies&#8221; and &#8220;interests.&#8221; They are personal accomplishments. When you equate doing any of these things in themselves with becoming a better human being, you&#8217;ve lost a lot of people. Is a person who can speak a second language a better person than they were before? No, they&#8217;re a more accomplished person. I think most people would say becoming a &#8220;better person&#8221; involves developing qualities that improve how you treat everyone around you, qualities like loyalty, kindness, generosity, honesty, integrity, and compassion.</p>
<p>I personally spend a fair amount of money on activities that help me develop my abilities. I belong to a gym, take classes in my field and for personal interest, and read lots of books. I love to learn so I&#8217;m always trying out something new. </p>
<p>I work on becoming a better person by studying the Bible and really working to apply its timeless counsel on how to act and how to treat others. That&#8217;s a different thing entirely.</p>
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		<title>By: Rhett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rhett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 15:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Before I get off topic.... I spend about $1150 yearly on self improvement between the YMCA and various media publications.


@Kristen,

  You may want to reeducate yourself.  The book you speak of is a collection of books.  Some of them date back 3500-3600 years.  They were cobbled together into the &quot;book&quot; we know now less than 500 years ago.

  And who&#039;s to say she is a Christian?  There are other religions.

  Personally I&#039;m not much for organized religion.  I think people tend to screw everything up.  I can say that I haven&#039;t read anything out of the book that would turn me into some mindless drone unable to make decisions for myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before I get off topic&#8230;. I spend about $1150 yearly on self improvement between the YMCA and various media publications.</p>
<p>@Kristen,</p>
<p>  You may want to reeducate yourself.  The book you speak of is a collection of books.  Some of them date back 3500-3600 years.  They were cobbled together into the &#8220;book&#8221; we know now less than 500 years ago.</p>
<p>  And who&#8217;s to say she is a Christian?  There are other religions.</p>
<p>  Personally I&#8217;m not much for organized religion.  I think people tend to screw everything up.  I can say that I haven&#8217;t read anything out of the book that would turn me into some mindless drone unable to make decisions for myself.</p>
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		<title>By: Evangeline</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evangeline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 15:28:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh for crying out loud. To &#039;better&#039; yourself isn&#039;t the same thing as being &#039;better than&#039; someone. One is to actively improve yourself however you see fit, while the other is to believe you superior to someone. Geez, people, stop acting like third graders on the monkey bars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh for crying out loud. To &#8216;better&#8217; yourself isn&#8217;t the same thing as being &#8216;better than&#8217; someone. One is to actively improve yourself however you see fit, while the other is to believe you superior to someone. Geez, people, stop acting like third graders on the monkey bars.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron at ThreeThriftyGuys</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron at ThreeThriftyGuys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 14:30:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually probably don&#039;t spend enough. But, I guess there are different ways of defining &quot;self-improvement&quot;. I regard living each day the best you can, helping others and growing to be more Christ-like to be &quot;self-improvement&quot;. So that stuff is free :) 

In my line of work however, self-improvement is essential. And, so I do spend money for online courses and tutorials to learn software and other skills I need.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually probably don&#8217;t spend enough. But, I guess there are different ways of defining &#8220;self-improvement&#8221;. I regard living each day the best you can, helping others and growing to be more Christ-like to be &#8220;self-improvement&#8221;. So that stuff is free <img src='http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>In my line of work however, self-improvement is essential. And, so I do spend money for online courses and tutorials to learn software and other skills I need.</p>
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		<title>By: Mara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 14:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree with you that spending on self-improvement is part of true wealth. It&#039;s a good investment on yourself and it propels growth.

However, it is sometimes difficult to gauge if something is worth the cost because it&#039;s intangible for the most part. 

Although I&#039;m at the debt-free stage, I am not at the point yet where I have a lot of room for disposable income. There is so much I would like to explore and do, yet there&#039;s so little in my piggy bank. 

I do the 2-day rule for anything above $100. If after 48 hours, I would still like to do the course, then I just go for it. For this year, I spent $150 on a “fake” piano and a “voice-over” workshop, both of which I enjoyed immensely and would like to look into further.

If it&#039;s a self-help book that I want, I borrow it first from the library. Once I get my hands on it and it merits highlighting passages and taking notes, then I buy a used book on Amazon or Half-Price Bookstore.

I would like to get voice lessons but since my budget can&#039;t accommodate it, I volunteer at my church&#039;s praise and worship team on a weekly basis. I may not get in American Idol but I know that the constant singing has improved my range and my ability to listen to subtle changes in notes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree with you that spending on self-improvement is part of true wealth. It&#8217;s a good investment on yourself and it propels growth.</p>
<p>However, it is sometimes difficult to gauge if something is worth the cost because it&#8217;s intangible for the most part. </p>
<p>Although I&#8217;m at the debt-free stage, I am not at the point yet where I have a lot of room for disposable income. There is so much I would like to explore and do, yet there&#8217;s so little in my piggy bank. </p>
<p>I do the 2-day rule for anything above $100. If after 48 hours, I would still like to do the course, then I just go for it. For this year, I spent $150 on a “fake” piano and a “voice-over” workshop, both of which I enjoyed immensely and would like to look into further.</p>
<p>If it&#8217;s a self-help book that I want, I borrow it first from the library. Once I get my hands on it and it merits highlighting passages and taking notes, then I buy a used book on Amazon or Half-Price Bookstore.</p>
<p>I would like to get voice lessons but since my budget can&#8217;t accommodate it, I volunteer at my church&#8217;s praise and worship team on a weekly basis. I may not get in American Idol but I know that the constant singing has improved my range and my ability to listen to subtle changes in notes.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephanie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 14:19:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see a therapist to improve my self confidence and my family relationships. This isn&#039;t cheap, but it&#039;s worth every penny! I also pay for a Crossfit gym membership (also not cheap, but worth it). Those are the two biggies. Add in some trade publication purchases to keep me on my game &amp; improving at work, and the monthly total comes to about $180. I feel I get my money&#039;s worth and then some.

It&#039;s possible to get in shape without a gym, and to improve your self-esteem without a professional, but my success in those areas isn&#039;t as good without the pros, so that&#039;s why it&#039;s worth it to me. I still supplement with free/cheap stuff: trail running, free classes at the community center, checking out items from the library, etc. But in areas that are really important to me, I don&#039;t mind shelling out the cash to get the return I value.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see a therapist to improve my self confidence and my family relationships. This isn&#8217;t cheap, but it&#8217;s worth every penny! I also pay for a Crossfit gym membership (also not cheap, but worth it). Those are the two biggies. Add in some trade publication purchases to keep me on my game &amp; improving at work, and the monthly total comes to about $180. I feel I get my money&#8217;s worth and then some.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s possible to get in shape without a gym, and to improve your self-esteem without a professional, but my success in those areas isn&#8217;t as good without the pros, so that&#8217;s why it&#8217;s worth it to me. I still supplement with free/cheap stuff: trail running, free classes at the community center, checking out items from the library, etc. But in areas that are really important to me, I don&#8217;t mind shelling out the cash to get the return I value.</p>
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		<title>By: Jenna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jenna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 14:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>New Rules of Lifting for Women is an amazing program! It really changed my beliefs about how women can use weight lifting to improve physical fitness. I just did the program at home with a good set of dumbbells. I hope you stick with it and enjoy being strong and fit!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New Rules of Lifting for Women is an amazing program! It really changed my beliefs about how women can use weight lifting to improve physical fitness. I just did the program at home with a good set of dumbbells. I hope you stick with it and enjoy being strong and fit!</p>
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		<title>By: brooklynchick</title>
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		<dc:creator>brooklynchick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 14:08:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm... $800/month for therapy, some of which I get back from insurance.  My annual yoga retreats are on the border between improvement and indulgence.  They cost about $1,000. $100/year for good sneakers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm&#8230; $800/month for therapy, some of which I get back from insurance.  My annual yoga retreats are on the border between improvement and indulgence.  They cost about $1,000. $100/year for good sneakers.</p>
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		<title>By: LauraElle</title>
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		<dc:creator>LauraElle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 14:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jumping in here to say, &quot;Yay!! Scrivener!!&quot; I know it&#039;s made a huge difference in how I organize my writing. I make a better use of time and as a result am more productive.

Carry on...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jumping in here to say, &#8220;Yay!! Scrivener!!&#8221; I know it&#8217;s made a huge difference in how I organize my writing. I make a better use of time and as a result am more productive.</p>
<p>Carry on&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: LauraElle</title>
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		<dc:creator>LauraElle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 13:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I spend about $45/month on a gym membership. For those that think regular exercise and the commitment to physical health doesn&#039;t make one a &quot;better person,&quot; let me say that before I was spending a mere $45/month on a gym membership, I was spending $125/week on a pshycaitrist and $85/month on prescriptions. I also changed what I eat and now focus on whole, real foods with minimal processing. My grocery bill went up- but it&#039;s nowhere near what I was spending on therapy/meds management and prescriptions. 

Once I made these changes, I discovered I was more patient and had the energy to be compassionate. I was able to apply the changes I wanted to make in my life, as discussed in therapy. Oh, I&#039;m also off the medication. (I am NOT advising people start taking a spin class five days a week and stop taking psychaitric medication. I weaned off the meds over a period of 18 months, under the guidance of my psychaitrist. I am lucky that the changes I made in my life allowed me to go off the meds but you can be sure that if I still needed them, I would still be taking them.)

This new energy [and extra couple of hours a week from no longer seeing the psychaitrist] allows me to volunteer in the community. I read to kids at the summer lunch program and I volunteer at a food bank. So yes, improving one&#039;s physical health may have a domino affect on other areas of self-improvement or self-development.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I spend about $45/month on a gym membership. For those that think regular exercise and the commitment to physical health doesn&#8217;t make one a &#8220;better person,&#8221; let me say that before I was spending a mere $45/month on a gym membership, I was spending $125/week on a pshycaitrist and $85/month on prescriptions. I also changed what I eat and now focus on whole, real foods with minimal processing. My grocery bill went up- but it&#8217;s nowhere near what I was spending on therapy/meds management and prescriptions. </p>
<p>Once I made these changes, I discovered I was more patient and had the energy to be compassionate. I was able to apply the changes I wanted to make in my life, as discussed in therapy. Oh, I&#8217;m also off the medication. (I am NOT advising people start taking a spin class five days a week and stop taking psychaitric medication. I weaned off the meds over a period of 18 months, under the guidance of my psychaitrist. I am lucky that the changes I made in my life allowed me to go off the meds but you can be sure that if I still needed them, I would still be taking them.)</p>
<p>This new energy [and extra couple of hours a week from no longer seeing the psychaitrist] allows me to volunteer in the community. I read to kids at the summer lunch program and I volunteer at a food bank. So yes, improving one&#8217;s physical health may have a domino affect on other areas of self-improvement or self-development.</p>
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		<title>By: abby</title>
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		<dc:creator>abby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 13:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i don&#039;t think i spend anything on self improvement at all every month.  simply because i don&#039;t feel the need for self improvement.  not because i think i&#039;m perfect...in fact i&#039;m sure that i am quite far from it.  but because i really am happy with the person i am.  
now i selfishly spend about 200 a month to keep myself at that level (book and wine club, gym, iced coffee, etc)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i don&#8217;t think i spend anything on self improvement at all every month.  simply because i don&#8217;t feel the need for self improvement.  not because i think i&#8217;m perfect&#8230;in fact i&#8217;m sure that i am quite far from it.  but because i really am happy with the person i am.<br />
now i selfishly spend about 200 a month to keep myself at that level (book and wine club, gym, iced coffee, etc)</p>
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		<title>By: Tracy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 13:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find the disagreement over what constitutes self improvement more interesting the question. Personally, I&#039;ve never found that sacrifice or giving of myself has made me a better person, when done just for its own sake. Many times, in fact, it has left me feeling angry/resentful/depressed/bitter, negative about the state of the world, or too exhausted to pursue things that make me happy. It makes me resentful and negative about people and the state world. I&#039;ve seen this happen to other people I know, as well (particularly my own mother, who spent 4-5 years as a caregiver to her mother, and was left at the end a complete basket case...worn down, psychologically broken, and angry at the world. No surprise, their relationship became absolutely toxic by the end of that stint.) How is that &quot;self improvement&quot;? How could it possibly improve the world?

In my own experience, the more happy and fulfilled I and other people are, which generally occurs when we do what we love and gain experiences, skills, knowledge, etc., then THAT&#039;s when we&#039;re happiest, most expansive, most generous, most positive about the world and its possibilities, and definitely the most motivated to &quot;do good&quot;. 

This might just be a personality thing, or partly related to inherently optimistic versus pessimistic view of humans and their role in the world. I need positive experiences first, to set off the positive cycle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find the disagreement over what constitutes self improvement more interesting the question. Personally, I&#8217;ve never found that sacrifice or giving of myself has made me a better person, when done just for its own sake. Many times, in fact, it has left me feeling angry/resentful/depressed/bitter, negative about the state of the world, or too exhausted to pursue things that make me happy. It makes me resentful and negative about people and the state world. I&#8217;ve seen this happen to other people I know, as well (particularly my own mother, who spent 4-5 years as a caregiver to her mother, and was left at the end a complete basket case&#8230;worn down, psychologically broken, and angry at the world. No surprise, their relationship became absolutely toxic by the end of that stint.) How is that &#8220;self improvement&#8221;? How could it possibly improve the world?</p>
<p>In my own experience, the more happy and fulfilled I and other people are, which generally occurs when we do what we love and gain experiences, skills, knowledge, etc., then THAT&#8217;s when we&#8217;re happiest, most expansive, most generous, most positive about the world and its possibilities, and definitely the most motivated to &#8220;do good&#8221;. </p>
<p>This might just be a personality thing, or partly related to inherently optimistic versus pessimistic view of humans and their role in the world. I need positive experiences first, to set off the positive cycle.</p>
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		<title>By: Janna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 13:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think everyone is given a set of skills in this life. And it is up to each of us to develop these skills to the best of our ability. Being the best person that you can be with these skills, I feel, can only help humanity in general. How will you know your special talents unless you explore a lot of different things?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think everyone is given a set of skills in this life. And it is up to each of us to develop these skills to the best of our ability. Being the best person that you can be with these skills, I feel, can only help humanity in general. How will you know your special talents unless you explore a lot of different things?</p>
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		<title>By: PB</title>
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		<dc:creator>PB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 13:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am enrolled in graduate school online, with one class/semester at about $2,200.  That being said, I have applied for two professional development grants and received both (each for about $ 1,600) from various organizations I belong to, and have used 3 $ 500 professional development stipends from my employers, so some semesters I have only paid out of pocket around $ 200.  I have not applied for any scholarships where I would be competing with my far younger colleagues because I feel that they need the money more than I do, but in my professional organizations very often no one asks for any funds, so I am glad to do so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am enrolled in graduate school online, with one class/semester at about $2,200.  That being said, I have applied for two professional development grants and received both (each for about $ 1,600) from various organizations I belong to, and have used 3 $ 500 professional development stipends from my employers, so some semesters I have only paid out of pocket around $ 200.  I have not applied for any scholarships where I would be competing with my far younger colleagues because I feel that they need the money more than I do, but in my professional organizations very often no one asks for any funds, so I am glad to do so.</p>
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		<title>By: Robyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 12:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, I&#039;m almost afraid to comment on this thread.  I&#039;m going to take your question as, &quot;What have you done lately to improve your quality of life?&quot;  I&#039;m kind of in the &quot;self-improvement is dependent on what you give rather than what you take&quot; camp.  So, with that said, I&#039;ve also been on a exercise tear, specifically weight lifting.  I purchased &quot;New Rules of Weight Lifting for Women&quot; for about $14, which was my fourth book purchase of the year.  The gyms are free at my work place.  I&#039;ve also spent quite a bit of money on chickens and guinneas and their chicken coop as well as six 4&#039;x4&#039; square foot garden beds.  I just bought about 30 birds for $120 online, and about 10 of them didn&#039;t make it.  I have them for natual insect control and egg production.  We&#039;ve spent a few hundred dollars on their 12&#039;x12&#039; coop.  We&#039;ve been diligent in recycling old materials we have laying around.  The square foot gardens cost a few hundred dollars as well for the boxes, &quot;dirt&quot; mix, and a recently installed PVC automatic watering system and shade cloth.  Luckily, the garden materials are a one time sunk cost, and I shouldn&#039;t have to replace anything for several years.  BTW, the tomatoes are delicious!  The chickens and garden, along with exercise are part of my focus on living a healthier lifestyle.  The only thing I&#039;d like to add to that is more international travel.  With two kids (and 20 birds), I don&#039;t have much time for hobbies.  I took 4 years of Spanish in high school, and I sing in the church choir, so I&#039;m good there.  A long term goal is to join a local rowing club and row competitively again like I did in college.  That would probably be a few thousands dollars a year committment.  I&#039;ve also got my eye on a new Nikon D800 and lens, but I&#039;m having trouble justifying the $4000 expense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I&#8217;m almost afraid to comment on this thread.  I&#8217;m going to take your question as, &#8220;What have you done lately to improve your quality of life?&#8221;  I&#8217;m kind of in the &#8220;self-improvement is dependent on what you give rather than what you take&#8221; camp.  So, with that said, I&#8217;ve also been on a exercise tear, specifically weight lifting.  I purchased &#8220;New Rules of Weight Lifting for Women&#8221; for about $14, which was my fourth book purchase of the year.  The gyms are free at my work place.  I&#8217;ve also spent quite a bit of money on chickens and guinneas and their chicken coop as well as six 4&#8242;x4&#8242; square foot garden beds.  I just bought about 30 birds for $120 online, and about 10 of them didn&#8217;t make it.  I have them for natual insect control and egg production.  We&#8217;ve spent a few hundred dollars on their 12&#8242;x12&#8242; coop.  We&#8217;ve been diligent in recycling old materials we have laying around.  The square foot gardens cost a few hundred dollars as well for the boxes, &#8220;dirt&#8221; mix, and a recently installed PVC automatic watering system and shade cloth.  Luckily, the garden materials are a one time sunk cost, and I shouldn&#8217;t have to replace anything for several years.  BTW, the tomatoes are delicious!  The chickens and garden, along with exercise are part of my focus on living a healthier lifestyle.  The only thing I&#8217;d like to add to that is more international travel.  With two kids (and 20 birds), I don&#8217;t have much time for hobbies.  I took 4 years of Spanish in high school, and I sing in the church choir, so I&#8217;m good there.  A long term goal is to join a local rowing club and row competitively again like I did in college.  That would probably be a few thousands dollars a year committment.  I&#8217;ve also got my eye on a new Nikon D800 and lens, but I&#8217;m having trouble justifying the $4000 expense.</p>
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		<title>By: getagrip</title>
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		<dc:creator>getagrip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 12:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find that this idea that character can only be built from some sort of charitable sacrifice is wrong.  You learn, grow best, and improve by doing and taking risk often in areas unrelated to where you can apply the lessons.  

If I learn to rock climb and find myself pushing beyond limits I knew I had while trying to scale a cliff, that can build confidence when faced with adversity.  It may allow me to become willing to push in other, less concrete areas of my life and take on risks or face issues I would have previously avoided.

If I take up a martial art, archery, shooting, pool, poker, etc.  where there is a need for concentration and focus, I can provide that concentration, focus, and discipline to other areas of my life and improve those. 

If I really learn a foreign language, engage in it and pay attention to it, then I typically learn something about the culture and more importantly another world view.  This can help me in creative problem solving issues I may be faced with.

If I participate in community theater or toastmasters, I may ease my fear of being in front of people and be able to take a bigger role in something I&#039;d been avoiding.

So this idea of you can only become a better person by sacrifice is bunk IMHO.  You become a better person through your experiences and reactions to those experiences.  While none of the above guarantees you&#039;ll become a better person, neither does working in food line, caring for a sick relative, or working at an animal shelter.  It&#039;s how and what you take away from the experience and use it in other areas in your life that determines that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find that this idea that character can only be built from some sort of charitable sacrifice is wrong.  You learn, grow best, and improve by doing and taking risk often in areas unrelated to where you can apply the lessons.  </p>
<p>If I learn to rock climb and find myself pushing beyond limits I knew I had while trying to scale a cliff, that can build confidence when faced with adversity.  It may allow me to become willing to push in other, less concrete areas of my life and take on risks or face issues I would have previously avoided.</p>
<p>If I take up a martial art, archery, shooting, pool, poker, etc.  where there is a need for concentration and focus, I can provide that concentration, focus, and discipline to other areas of my life and improve those. </p>
<p>If I really learn a foreign language, engage in it and pay attention to it, then I typically learn something about the culture and more importantly another world view.  This can help me in creative problem solving issues I may be faced with.</p>
<p>If I participate in community theater or toastmasters, I may ease my fear of being in front of people and be able to take a bigger role in something I&#8217;d been avoiding.</p>
<p>So this idea of you can only become a better person by sacrifice is bunk IMHO.  You become a better person through your experiences and reactions to those experiences.  While none of the above guarantees you&#8217;ll become a better person, neither does working in food line, caring for a sick relative, or working at an animal shelter.  It&#8217;s how and what you take away from the experience and use it in other areas in your life that determines that.</p>
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