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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2012 01:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ya know what drives me nuts, Im a variety performer.
I was actually on the show,  How Clean is Your House&quot; and I was shanghaied. At the most, it&#039;s clutter. But, I have a number of jobs.. and most of the jobs require a lot of props. NOTHING worse than throwing away a rubber chicken... only to get a call for a gig the next day, that requires a rubber chicken. I only wish I were joking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ya know what drives me nuts, Im a variety performer.<br />
I was actually on the show,  How Clean is Your House&#8221; and I was shanghaied. At the most, it&#8217;s clutter. But, I have a number of jobs.. and most of the jobs require a lot of props. NOTHING worse than throwing away a rubber chicken&#8230; only to get a call for a gig the next day, that requires a rubber chicken. I only wish I were joking.</p>
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		<title>By: Dominie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dominie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2012 15:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boy, can I EVER relate to what EVERYbody is saying on here ! I do NOT save empty food containers or obvious trash but when it comes to paper with useful information, names, or contact numbers that I might need in the future, I STRUGGLE with organization issues. and if it is something that somebody, someWHERE might be able to use, I wrangle with whether or not to throw it ouw. Fortunately, I am becoming more discriminatory with that. I, personally, have recieved a LOT of help from Sandra Felton&#039;s Messie&#039;s Anonymous, and one of the organizational coaches on one of the Hoarders programs, really helped me with the constant question &quot;Is it nourishing to mind, body, and spirit ?&quot; on whether or not to KEEP something or not. Blessings to everyone out there who struggles with these issues</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boy, can I EVER relate to what EVERYbody is saying on here ! I do NOT save empty food containers or obvious trash but when it comes to paper with useful information, names, or contact numbers that I might need in the future, I STRUGGLE with organization issues. and if it is something that somebody, someWHERE might be able to use, I wrangle with whether or not to throw it ouw. Fortunately, I am becoming more discriminatory with that. I, personally, have recieved a LOT of help from Sandra Felton&#8217;s Messie&#8217;s Anonymous, and one of the organizational coaches on one of the Hoarders programs, really helped me with the constant question &#8220;Is it nourishing to mind, body, and spirit ?&#8221; on whether or not to KEEP something or not. Blessings to everyone out there who struggles with these issues</p>
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		<title>By: Ms. Rants</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ms. Rants</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2012 13:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the flip side, for most of us our biggest expense is our rent/mortgage, and this can often be reduced by living in a smaller space.  Living in a smaller space is much easier with less stuff.  Two years ago, I felt like I needed a bigger place, even though I knew that logically, I should be just fine in my 600-650 square foot 1-bedroom apartment.  I live alone, so I knew it *should* work, but I felt cramped.  I&#039;ve gotten rid of a lot of stuff I don&#039;t need or use (I have a pile of 60+ books now to get rid of, old clothes that don&#039;t fit, etc.) and the place feels quite comfortable - no need to move at all!  And if I need a smaller space to save money, I think I can manage it now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the flip side, for most of us our biggest expense is our rent/mortgage, and this can often be reduced by living in a smaller space.  Living in a smaller space is much easier with less stuff.  Two years ago, I felt like I needed a bigger place, even though I knew that logically, I should be just fine in my 600-650 square foot 1-bedroom apartment.  I live alone, so I knew it *should* work, but I felt cramped.  I&#8217;ve gotten rid of a lot of stuff I don&#8217;t need or use (I have a pile of 60+ books now to get rid of, old clothes that don&#8217;t fit, etc.) and the place feels quite comfortable &#8211; no need to move at all!  And if I need a smaller space to save money, I think I can manage it now.</p>
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		<title>By: Glenda Janssen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glenda Janssen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2012 07:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s not forget that keeping an immaculate home is also a status symbol. Keeping surfaces free of clutter takes time. 

However, I can personally attest that my grocery bill has gone down significantly since I have started to store less food, generally buying simply what I need, when I need it. I was brought up with the freezer mentality, lots of things ready to just be thawed and eaten. Nowadays I have very few freezer items anymore. This, of course, only works because I have about 5 small grocery store/deli/bakeries within 2 blocks of my house. Yes, sometimes the loaf of bread costs 20% more than it would at the super immense supermarket, but I only buy a loaf when I am actually making sandwiches, instead of buying it because I may need it sometime this week. 

I also agree with many commenters it is a matter of balance, and, unfortunately, analyzing how much something is worth involves so many factors it is hard to make the most rational decision, so we often end up being guided by our emotions--and thus going for stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s not forget that keeping an immaculate home is also a status symbol. Keeping surfaces free of clutter takes time. </p>
<p>However, I can personally attest that my grocery bill has gone down significantly since I have started to store less food, generally buying simply what I need, when I need it. I was brought up with the freezer mentality, lots of things ready to just be thawed and eaten. Nowadays I have very few freezer items anymore. This, of course, only works because I have about 5 small grocery store/deli/bakeries within 2 blocks of my house. Yes, sometimes the loaf of bread costs 20% more than it would at the super immense supermarket, but I only buy a loaf when I am actually making sandwiches, instead of buying it because I may need it sometime this week. </p>
<p>I also agree with many commenters it is a matter of balance, and, unfortunately, analyzing how much something is worth involves so many factors it is hard to make the most rational decision, so we often end up being guided by our emotions&#8211;and thus going for stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Rosa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rosa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 15:46:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because a &quot;nice way to display them&quot; leaves them vulnerable to decay (light makes paper fade) and probably harder to read, when he wants to dig them out and read them.

Or perhaps he lives with another human. We have a lot of nice things packed away, so we can enjoy them when we want and the hordes of 2nd graders that run through our house every few days *can&#039;t*. Comics are definitely in this category, especially comics that aren&#039;t child-appropriate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because a &#8220;nice way to display them&#8221; leaves them vulnerable to decay (light makes paper fade) and probably harder to read, when he wants to dig them out and read them.</p>
<p>Or perhaps he lives with another human. We have a lot of nice things packed away, so we can enjoy them when we want and the hordes of 2nd graders that run through our house every few days *can&#8217;t*. Comics are definitely in this category, especially comics that aren&#8217;t child-appropriate.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah L</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 14:09:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had that same twinge when my husband put the worn out, milldew covered stroller from baby #1 by the curb, and not a minuite later, a nasty, scruffy looking man stopped and THREW it into the back of his truck. I told my husband never again, it gets put into a bag on the curb. Weird, because the rare time we don&#039;t donate things, or sell them at a yard sale, I don&#039;t have a problem putting them out by the curb for someone to take, but that stroller, even though it was of no use, was a little too emotional for me. The broken pack and play from a yard sale? Couldn&#039;t care less, but that stroller...it was my like heart being ripped from my chest!! 

Clothes, well, I&#039;m about to use the clothes from baby #1 for baby #2, and since we are moving next summer, I plan to pare down, but still keep some in case of a baby #3, but I admit, I&#039;ll keep my favorites, and the stuff that looks like new. It helps a lot of the stuff was already bought at yard sales, or I know will get covered in spit up, but I wish I hadn&#039;t been given so many cute brand new outfits for baby #2!! No one did that for #1 and now I have all these adorable outfits that will get worn just a time or two!! 

You might check, too, if you are ok with donating them, the high schools around here often ask for donations of baby clothes in good condition, so that&#039;s where I plan to take a lot of mine that I can&#039;t resell at my fall yard sale, stuff that I don&#039;t want to keep because of wrong season, or just didn&#039;t like the look/feel of (for some reason, terry cloth sleepers give me the heebie jeebies!!) I did that last year, blankets too, and they were so excited to have them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had that same twinge when my husband put the worn out, milldew covered stroller from baby #1 by the curb, and not a minuite later, a nasty, scruffy looking man stopped and THREW it into the back of his truck. I told my husband never again, it gets put into a bag on the curb. Weird, because the rare time we don&#8217;t donate things, or sell them at a yard sale, I don&#8217;t have a problem putting them out by the curb for someone to take, but that stroller, even though it was of no use, was a little too emotional for me. The broken pack and play from a yard sale? Couldn&#8217;t care less, but that stroller&#8230;it was my like heart being ripped from my chest!! </p>
<p>Clothes, well, I&#8217;m about to use the clothes from baby #1 for baby #2, and since we are moving next summer, I plan to pare down, but still keep some in case of a baby #3, but I admit, I&#8217;ll keep my favorites, and the stuff that looks like new. It helps a lot of the stuff was already bought at yard sales, or I know will get covered in spit up, but I wish I hadn&#8217;t been given so many cute brand new outfits for baby #2!! No one did that for #1 and now I have all these adorable outfits that will get worn just a time or two!! </p>
<p>You might check, too, if you are ok with donating them, the high schools around here often ask for donations of baby clothes in good condition, so that&#8217;s where I plan to take a lot of mine that I can&#8217;t resell at my fall yard sale, stuff that I don&#8217;t want to keep because of wrong season, or just didn&#8217;t like the look/feel of (for some reason, terry cloth sleepers give me the heebie jeebies!!) I did that last year, blankets too, and they were so excited to have them.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Wall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Wall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 05:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This, right here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This, right here.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Wall</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2012/08/19/reader-story-in-defense-of-clutter/comment-page-1/#comment-2948492</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Wall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 05:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly!

The only caveat I&#039;d introduce is &quot;things we enjoy&quot; should actually mean &quot;things we enjoy&quot;. Lots of people accumulate things that other people *expect* them to enjoy.

In your example, if you derive enough enjoyment from the stuff on your mantel that you believe it&#039;s worth the effort (dusting, polishing, etc.) to keep it looking nice, more power to you.

But if you&#039;re doing that because you think that&#039;s what &quot;you&#039;re supposed to do&quot;, you&#039;re not living your life - you&#039;re living somebody else&#039;s.

And that&#039;s really the key to minimalism and simple living - living your own life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly!</p>
<p>The only caveat I&#8217;d introduce is &#8220;things we enjoy&#8221; should actually mean &#8220;things we enjoy&#8221;. Lots of people accumulate things that other people *expect* them to enjoy.</p>
<p>In your example, if you derive enough enjoyment from the stuff on your mantel that you believe it&#8217;s worth the effort (dusting, polishing, etc.) to keep it looking nice, more power to you.</p>
<p>But if you&#8217;re doing that because you think that&#8217;s what &#8220;you&#8217;re supposed to do&#8221;, you&#8217;re not living your life &#8211; you&#8217;re living somebody else&#8217;s.</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s really the key to minimalism and simple living &#8211; living your own life.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Wall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Wall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 04:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Out of curiosity, how many of those cookbooks do you actually use? 

I know a bunch of people who have cookbooks and never crack them open, ever. 

I can tell you that I used to have 48 shelf-feet of books (8&#039; shelves, six shelves tall). I&#039;ve gotten rid about 90% of those books, because I absolutely hated moving them.

I can say, in all honesty, that I don&#039;t miss them. Any of them. I didn&#039;t read them when I had them; I just had to cart them around every time I moved.

And what&#039;s the point of spending time and energy taking care of something you never use?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Out of curiosity, how many of those cookbooks do you actually use? </p>
<p>I know a bunch of people who have cookbooks and never crack them open, ever. </p>
<p>I can tell you that I used to have 48 shelf-feet of books (8&#8242; shelves, six shelves tall). I&#8217;ve gotten rid about 90% of those books, because I absolutely hated moving them.</p>
<p>I can say, in all honesty, that I don&#8217;t miss them. Any of them. I didn&#8217;t read them when I had them; I just had to cart them around every time I moved.</p>
<p>And what&#8217;s the point of spending time and energy taking care of something you never use?</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Wall</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2012/08/19/reader-story-in-defense-of-clutter/comment-page-1/#comment-2948472</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Wall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 04:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Try thinking of it this way. You can buy a set of 6 pots &amp; pans at WalMart for $25. Those pans are going to be a bunch of cheap junk (on balance), they probably won&#039;t cook your food well, and they&#039;re going to wear out if you really try to use them.

I know people that have gone through a ton of those pans in their lifetimes.

Now consider buying one or two nicer pans for around $50. They&#039;re well-made, the heavy bases help retain heat which helps you cook, and the finishes are more durable. 

The person with the second set will probably have them last at least twice as long as the first, and they&#039;re going to enjoy cooking more. 

Who made the more frugal purchase?

I&#039;d argue that the second person did, even though they had less pans total and spent more money, because they enjoy cooking more (which makes them less likely to want to go get fast food), their pans last longer (which means they don&#039;t replace them as often), and they only have the pans they need (which means they&#039;re using space efficiently).

All of those things are little pieces of the frugal puzzle. 

Frugal is about so much more than money - frugality is about not wasting anything. And &quot;anything&quot; can be time, money, space, or any one of a dozen other things. 

:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try thinking of it this way. You can buy a set of 6 pots &amp; pans at WalMart for $25. Those pans are going to be a bunch of cheap junk (on balance), they probably won&#8217;t cook your food well, and they&#8217;re going to wear out if you really try to use them.</p>
<p>I know people that have gone through a ton of those pans in their lifetimes.</p>
<p>Now consider buying one or two nicer pans for around $50. They&#8217;re well-made, the heavy bases help retain heat which helps you cook, and the finishes are more durable. </p>
<p>The person with the second set will probably have them last at least twice as long as the first, and they&#8217;re going to enjoy cooking more. </p>
<p>Who made the more frugal purchase?</p>
<p>I&#8217;d argue that the second person did, even though they had less pans total and spent more money, because they enjoy cooking more (which makes them less likely to want to go get fast food), their pans last longer (which means they don&#8217;t replace them as often), and they only have the pans they need (which means they&#8217;re using space efficiently).</p>
<p>All of those things are little pieces of the frugal puzzle. </p>
<p>Frugal is about so much more than money &#8211; frugality is about not wasting anything. And &#8220;anything&#8221; can be time, money, space, or any one of a dozen other things. </p>
<p> <img src='http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Robert Wall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Wall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 04:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Rules&quot; like the &quot;toss-it-if-you-haven&#039;t-worn-it-in-a-year&quot; rule, to me, are most useful when you&#039;re intentionally trying to pare down stuff.

I&#039;ve talked to many people with closets full of clothes. I even know one lady who dedicated a whole room to storing her clothes, because she gave up on trying to fit them into her closet.

To me, that&#039;s excessive.

Those people probably need to downsize, and &quot;if you haven&#039;t worn it in a year, chuck it!&quot; can be great advice.

But if you have a sensible amount of clothes, and you own a few Christmas sweaters, I can&#039;t imagine disposing of them just because you didn&#039;t wear them last Christmas.

And clothes of a different size? If you think you&#039;re headed back to that size, just box them and tuck them away somewhere until you&#039;re confident one way or the other.

Just be aware of what you own, and be aware of your ongoing cost of ownership. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Rules&#8221; like the &#8220;toss-it-if-you-haven&#8217;t-worn-it-in-a-year&#8221; rule, to me, are most useful when you&#8217;re intentionally trying to pare down stuff.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve talked to many people with closets full of clothes. I even know one lady who dedicated a whole room to storing her clothes, because she gave up on trying to fit them into her closet.</p>
<p>To me, that&#8217;s excessive.</p>
<p>Those people probably need to downsize, and &#8220;if you haven&#8217;t worn it in a year, chuck it!&#8221; can be great advice.</p>
<p>But if you have a sensible amount of clothes, and you own a few Christmas sweaters, I can&#8217;t imagine disposing of them just because you didn&#8217;t wear them last Christmas.</p>
<p>And clothes of a different size? If you think you&#8217;re headed back to that size, just box them and tuck them away somewhere until you&#8217;re confident one way or the other.</p>
<p>Just be aware of what you own, and be aware of your ongoing cost of ownership. <img src='http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Robert Wall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Wall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 04:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m genuinely curious - if these comics are something that you really love, why do they spend their days sitting in a box? 

Why not come up with a nice way to display them? I&#039;d think you&#039;d enjoy them even more that way. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m genuinely curious &#8211; if these comics are something that you really love, why do they spend their days sitting in a box? </p>
<p>Why not come up with a nice way to display them? I&#8217;d think you&#8217;d enjoy them even more that way. <img src='http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Robert Wall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Wall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 04:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The whole point of minimalism is to eliminate the stuff that doesn&#039;t matter, to make room for the stuff that does.

Some gear for a hobby isn&#039;t superfluous by any definition; it&#039;s a part of your life. 

It doesn&#039;t become a problem until somebody says they have thirty hobbies, each with a huge stack of gear, none of which ever gets used. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The whole point of minimalism is to eliminate the stuff that doesn&#8217;t matter, to make room for the stuff that does.</p>
<p>Some gear for a hobby isn&#8217;t superfluous by any definition; it&#8217;s a part of your life. </p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t become a problem until somebody says they have thirty hobbies, each with a huge stack of gear, none of which ever gets used. <img src='http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 04:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely sympathize with you here. I have a set amount of space for my kid&#039;s toys. I try very hard to only get toys that will have a long life span (rather than something they will tire of and/or break within a week), give away extras, and to limit toys at gift-giving occasions. However, it still seems like they multiply on their own. 

In the end, I&#039;ve ended up emphasizing to relatives that we really only need/want books and clothes. Some of them don&#039;t listen and give toys, but it makes things easier to manage. If we get too many books, we list them on amazon or we donate them to the library. If we end up with a few more clothes than we need, then they&#039;re often in good enough shape to sell at kid&#039;s consignment sales.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely sympathize with you here. I have a set amount of space for my kid&#8217;s toys. I try very hard to only get toys that will have a long life span (rather than something they will tire of and/or break within a week), give away extras, and to limit toys at gift-giving occasions. However, it still seems like they multiply on their own. </p>
<p>In the end, I&#8217;ve ended up emphasizing to relatives that we really only need/want books and clothes. Some of them don&#8217;t listen and give toys, but it makes things easier to manage. If we get too many books, we list them on amazon or we donate them to the library. If we end up with a few more clothes than we need, then they&#8217;re often in good enough shape to sell at kid&#8217;s consignment sales.</p>
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		<title>By: Rosa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rosa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 00:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it may be easier than you think, later on.
 
My mom saved a ridiculous number of things, and gave them all to me when I had a baby. I saved them, thinking she must want them back when we were done with them, since she saved them for 30 years. 

Nope. She was totally surprised I tried to give her back the tiny outfits &amp; baby room decor when we were done with them. Most of them have now been donated or tossed (they meant more to her than me, and she didn&#039;t want them anymore.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it may be easier than you think, later on.</p>
<p>My mom saved a ridiculous number of things, and gave them all to me when I had a baby. I saved them, thinking she must want them back when we were done with them, since she saved them for 30 years. </p>
<p>Nope. She was totally surprised I tried to give her back the tiny outfits &amp; baby room decor when we were done with them. Most of them have now been donated or tossed (they meant more to her than me, and she didn&#8217;t want them anymore.)</p>
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		<title>By: Angie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2012 23:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My volume of stuff has been steadily declining since I first moved out of home... 7 moves in six years forces you to constantly ask yourself if an item is worth carting to your next place... but two things really lead to a large reduction in &quot;stuff&quot; - the parents selling our family home in the city and moving to a nearby town (really had to decide if things were worth moving all that way) and my time in America... I had two suitcases worth of stuff... some of it barely got used. The only thing I missed in that time was my sewing machine! So when I came back to Australia it was easy to de-clutter...

But I agree with the author, I don&#039;t need or want to live in an all white empty space. I like being surrounded by things that are sentimental but there are limits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My volume of stuff has been steadily declining since I first moved out of home&#8230; 7 moves in six years forces you to constantly ask yourself if an item is worth carting to your next place&#8230; but two things really lead to a large reduction in &#8220;stuff&#8221; &#8211; the parents selling our family home in the city and moving to a nearby town (really had to decide if things were worth moving all that way) and my time in America&#8230; I had two suitcases worth of stuff&#8230; some of it barely got used. The only thing I missed in that time was my sewing machine! So when I came back to Australia it was easy to de-clutter&#8230;</p>
<p>But I agree with the author, I don&#8217;t need or want to live in an all white empty space. I like being surrounded by things that are sentimental but there are limits.</p>
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		<title>By: Becky</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2012/08/19/reader-story-in-defense-of-clutter/comment-page-1/#comment-2948072</link>
		<dc:creator>Becky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2012 22:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting thought! I am also an introvert and bothered by too much stimuli (stuff). However, I also am not a fan of severe minimalism...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting thought! I am also an introvert and bothered by too much stimuli (stuff). However, I also am not a fan of severe minimalism&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: FinancialBabySteps</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2012/08/19/reader-story-in-defense-of-clutter/comment-page-1/#comment-2947772</link>
		<dc:creator>FinancialBabySteps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2012 19:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know just what you mean about cards; they absolutely breed in my place if I&#039;m not careful.

Are you aware of the St. Jude&#039;s Ranch recycled card program?  It doesn&#039;t entirely solve my &quot;what to do with the cards&quot; dilemma, but it can lessen my sentimental guilt of parting with them.  Other programs may also exist.

http://www.stjudesranch.org/shop/recycled-card-program/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know just what you mean about cards; they absolutely breed in my place if I&#8217;m not careful.</p>
<p>Are you aware of the St. Jude&#8217;s Ranch recycled card program?  It doesn&#8217;t entirely solve my &#8220;what to do with the cards&#8221; dilemma, but it can lessen my sentimental guilt of parting with them.  Other programs may also exist.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.stjudesranch.org/shop/recycled-card-program/" rel="nofollow">http://www.stjudesranch.org/shop/recycled-card-program/</a></p>
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		<title>By: FinancialBabySteps</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2012/08/19/reader-story-in-defense-of-clutter/comment-page-1/#comment-2947762</link>
		<dc:creator>FinancialBabySteps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2012 18:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad you wrote this.  I love the minimalist aesthetic, but I realized long ago that I don&#039;t live like that (and don&#039;t want to).  I admire the minimalist look, but I want to *live* in something cosy.  I want to flop down on an overstuffed couch with big poufy armrests -- big enough for me to use as a pillow or to let my legs dangle over -- while I read one of my 1200+ hardcover/paperback books and snuggle under a throw blanket.  I&#039;ve been like this my whole life and I&#039;m sure I&#039;ll be like that even when I&#039;m old and grey.

Do I have more than I &quot;need&quot; to live?  You bet.  I&#039;m reminded of it every time I look at my closets, under my bed or in other storage spaces.  But I also know that a lot of that &quot;stuff&quot; represents clothing that my fluctuating waistline makes likely I&#039;ll need again, power cords that somehow rotate in and out of use, mementos of travels, etc.  Some can be purged and periodically is recycled or donated, but a lot of it is just the record of my life.  

I try to be as mindful of what I&#039;m adding to my living space as I am to what I ultimately remove, but I don&#039;t consider my &quot;stuff&quot; to be the roadblock to financial health.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad you wrote this.  I love the minimalist aesthetic, but I realized long ago that I don&#8217;t live like that (and don&#8217;t want to).  I admire the minimalist look, but I want to *live* in something cosy.  I want to flop down on an overstuffed couch with big poufy armrests &#8212; big enough for me to use as a pillow or to let my legs dangle over &#8212; while I read one of my 1200+ hardcover/paperback books and snuggle under a throw blanket.  I&#8217;ve been like this my whole life and I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;ll be like that even when I&#8217;m old and grey.</p>
<p>Do I have more than I &#8220;need&#8221; to live?  You bet.  I&#8217;m reminded of it every time I look at my closets, under my bed or in other storage spaces.  But I also know that a lot of that &#8220;stuff&#8221; represents clothing that my fluctuating waistline makes likely I&#8217;ll need again, power cords that somehow rotate in and out of use, mementos of travels, etc.  Some can be purged and periodically is recycled or donated, but a lot of it is just the record of my life.  </p>
<p>I try to be as mindful of what I&#8217;m adding to my living space as I am to what I ultimately remove, but I don&#8217;t consider my &#8220;stuff&#8221; to be the roadblock to financial health.</p>
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		<title>By: joan</title>
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		<dc:creator>joan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2012 18:38:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My problem is I let clutter build up to a point where I can&#039;t stand it anymore. This usually happens when I trip  or knock over something for the umpteenth time in a row. Then Heaven help anything that gets in the way of the oncoming tirade! I toss, sell, donate, or give away tons of stuff in a blind effort to become organized. A week or so after the rampage subsides, I&#039;ll wander out to the garage to grab a screw, only to realize I&#039;ve thrown away my entire box of miscellaneous hardware--my go-to box for fix-it jobs that took a lifetime to accumulate! Among other items of value I&#039;m too embarrassed to mention here. If I could just catch myself before I get that worked up, it would be half the battle right there.  :/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My problem is I let clutter build up to a point where I can&#8217;t stand it anymore. This usually happens when I trip  or knock over something for the umpteenth time in a row. Then Heaven help anything that gets in the way of the oncoming tirade! I toss, sell, donate, or give away tons of stuff in a blind effort to become organized. A week or so after the rampage subsides, I&#8217;ll wander out to the garage to grab a screw, only to realize I&#8217;ve thrown away my entire box of miscellaneous hardware&#8211;my go-to box for fix-it jobs that took a lifetime to accumulate! Among other items of value I&#8217;m too embarrassed to mention here. If I could just catch myself before I get that worked up, it would be half the battle right there.  :/</p>
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		<title>By: Meredith</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2012/08/19/reader-story-in-defense-of-clutter/comment-page-1/#comment-2947702</link>
		<dc:creator>Meredith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2012 18:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Cincy!  The house is in CA (I live in MA and just returned from there).  I will look into these companies to see if there is such a service in their area in CA.  Thanks so much for the suggestion!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Cincy!  The house is in CA (I live in MA and just returned from there).  I will look into these companies to see if there is such a service in their area in CA.  Thanks so much for the suggestion!!!</p>
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		<title>By: jim</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2012/08/19/reader-story-in-defense-of-clutter/comment-page-1/#comment-2947682</link>
		<dc:creator>jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2012 18:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jane, Thanks for voicing the contrary opinion on this.   Seems the personal finance blogs go a little too far in preaching against &#039;stuff&#039; as if owning a few things will make you broke, means you&#039;re a materialist consumed with buying or implies you aren&#039;t frugal.    A lot of people in my family have &#039;pack rat&#039; tendencies (not to the level of hoarders) but they are quite frugal and doing fine financially.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jane, Thanks for voicing the contrary opinion on this.   Seems the personal finance blogs go a little too far in preaching against &#8216;stuff&#8217; as if owning a few things will make you broke, means you&#8217;re a materialist consumed with buying or implies you aren&#8217;t frugal.    A lot of people in my family have &#8216;pack rat&#8217; tendencies (not to the level of hoarders) but they are quite frugal and doing fine financially.</p>
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		<title>By: Kym</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kym</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2012 18:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Cincy, just an FYI but GoodWill in our area (Phoenix) does pickup from homes.  It&#039;s fairly new, but they will do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Cincy, just an FYI but GoodWill in our area (Phoenix) does pickup from homes.  It&#8217;s fairly new, but they will do it.</p>
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		<title>By: partgypsy</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2012/08/19/reader-story-in-defense-of-clutter/comment-page-1/#comment-2947642</link>
		<dc:creator>partgypsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2012 17:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my husband is both an artist and an extrovert : )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my husband is both an artist and an extrovert : )</p>
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		<title>By: partgypsy</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2012/08/19/reader-story-in-defense-of-clutter/comment-page-1/#comment-2947472</link>
		<dc:creator>partgypsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2012 15:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not a collector of stuff and letting go of my kid&#039;s clothes was the hardest thing for me. Just seeing the little outfit reminded me of when they were little. I think I still have a few outfits (that will probably be motheaten if i hold onto them for my kid&#039;s kids) but I&#039;m not ready to let them go yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not a collector of stuff and letting go of my kid&#8217;s clothes was the hardest thing for me. Just seeing the little outfit reminded me of when they were little. I think I still have a few outfits (that will probably be motheaten if i hold onto them for my kid&#8217;s kids) but I&#8217;m not ready to let them go yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2012/08/19/reader-story-in-defense-of-clutter/comment-page-1/#comment-2947452</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2012 15:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for writing this.  I enjoy reading minimalist sites as much as I do personal finance and the two can sometimes feel at odds.  While my husband and I are minimal in most areas, my sewing hobby (sewing machine, dressform, cutting table, fabric) takes up more than 1/3 of the master bedroom, at least half my closet and part of his closet. That makes the minimalist in me anxious. But keeping the sewing stuff wins out, and my husband agrees. Creating sewn goods is the most calming thing I know. I work on a project everyday with little exception because it&#039;s almost meditative. I don&#039;t create a lot of things, but spend time on each piece so that the fit is perfect and the garment lasts. Of course, sewing appeals to my frugal side because I don&#039;t ever shop for clothing, bedding, or purses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for writing this.  I enjoy reading minimalist sites as much as I do personal finance and the two can sometimes feel at odds.  While my husband and I are minimal in most areas, my sewing hobby (sewing machine, dressform, cutting table, fabric) takes up more than 1/3 of the master bedroom, at least half my closet and part of his closet. That makes the minimalist in me anxious. But keeping the sewing stuff wins out, and my husband agrees. Creating sewn goods is the most calming thing I know. I work on a project everyday with little exception because it&#8217;s almost meditative. I don&#8217;t create a lot of things, but spend time on each piece so that the fit is perfect and the garment lasts. Of course, sewing appeals to my frugal side because I don&#8217;t ever shop for clothing, bedding, or purses.</p>
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		<title>By: Alyssa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alyssa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2012 15:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This nailed it on the head!</description>
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		<title>By: darenw</title>
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		<dc:creator>darenw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2012 15:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha! A new screw isn&#039;t 25 cents, but 25 cents plus time to drive to the hardware store, a bit of gas for the car, and breaking your flow of concentration on your project to make the trip.  Ok if you&#039;re going there anyway, need a break from screaming kids, or it&#039;s a really specialized kind of screw.  Otherwise, for any kind of do-it-yourselfer, experimenter, or artist it&#039;s great to have materials and parts at home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha! A new screw isn&#8217;t 25 cents, but 25 cents plus time to drive to the hardware store, a bit of gas for the car, and breaking your flow of concentration on your project to make the trip.  Ok if you&#8217;re going there anyway, need a break from screaming kids, or it&#8217;s a really specialized kind of screw.  Otherwise, for any kind of do-it-yourselfer, experimenter, or artist it&#8217;s great to have materials and parts at home.</p>
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		<title>By: Alyssa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alyssa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2012 15:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s been said before but I&#039;ll say it again: it&#039;s all about balance and priorities.

Minimalism and simple living has really struck a chord with me in my life and had made me reassess my priorities. Stuff isn&#039;t everything. But that doesn&#039;t mean I live with only 100 things. The biggest step is the realization of your priorities. After that, it&#039;s much easier to amend your living area to follow that. I enjoy decluttering, so I&#039;m always looking for things to get rid of that I no longer use. But I still fall in the trap of &quot;but maybe someday...&quot; I have to keep my perspective.

In relation to personal finance, it&#039;s helped me a lot. Shopping is an old pastime, and I do it less now that I think about how many hours I have to work to pay for those adorable shoes, and how they don&#039;t fit in with my ultimate goals of travel and having the kind of wedding I want.

Perspective, balance, and priorities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s been said before but I&#8217;ll say it again: it&#8217;s all about balance and priorities.</p>
<p>Minimalism and simple living has really struck a chord with me in my life and had made me reassess my priorities. Stuff isn&#8217;t everything. But that doesn&#8217;t mean I live with only 100 things. The biggest step is the realization of your priorities. After that, it&#8217;s much easier to amend your living area to follow that. I enjoy decluttering, so I&#8217;m always looking for things to get rid of that I no longer use. But I still fall in the trap of &#8220;but maybe someday&#8230;&#8221; I have to keep my perspective.</p>
<p>In relation to personal finance, it&#8217;s helped me a lot. Shopping is an old pastime, and I do it less now that I think about how many hours I have to work to pay for those adorable shoes, and how they don&#8217;t fit in with my ultimate goals of travel and having the kind of wedding I want.</p>
<p>Perspective, balance, and priorities.</p>
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		<title>By: Jane</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2012/08/19/reader-story-in-defense-of-clutter/comment-page-1/#comment-2947292</link>
		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2012 15:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If I can look pass the mass of stuff, rather than being consumerist it is actually a sign of a sentimental mind&quot;

I also think you&#039;ve hit on something very important here. I certainly consider myself sentimental, and it is an inherited quality. Slowly I am learning that I can still let things go. For instance, if I decide to give something of my grandmothers away , I intentionally think of all the other things that I still have to remember her by. Yes, I plan to give away that set of tea bag holders, but I still have that vase from her bedroom. Perhaps you could remind your husband of this when you are trying to purge? It has helped me immensely.

I have a hard time getting rid of my kids&#039; baby clothes. Only once so far have I regretted purging an article of their clothing. It was this itty bitty pair of jeans that both my sons wore. I thought - they were worn and and the snaps weren&#039;t as good as they once were. But when I saw it in the Goodwill bag as I was handing it over, I did have a twinge of sadness. I still think of those little jeans sometimes :(.</description>
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<p>I also think you&#8217;ve hit on something very important here. I certainly consider myself sentimental, and it is an inherited quality. Slowly I am learning that I can still let things go. For instance, if I decide to give something of my grandmothers away , I intentionally think of all the other things that I still have to remember her by. Yes, I plan to give away that set of tea bag holders, but I still have that vase from her bedroom. Perhaps you could remind your husband of this when you are trying to purge? It has helped me immensely.</p>
<p>I have a hard time getting rid of my kids&#8217; baby clothes. Only once so far have I regretted purging an article of their clothing. It was this itty bitty pair of jeans that both my sons wore. I thought &#8211; they were worn and and the snaps weren&#8217;t as good as they once were. But when I saw it in the Goodwill bag as I was handing it over, I did have a twinge of sadness. I still think of those little jeans sometimes <img src='http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
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