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	<title>Comments on: Reader Story: Finding Hope In The Bleakest Of Situations</title>
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		<title>By: Derek</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2012/09/09/reader-story-finding-hope-in-the-bleakest-of-situations/comment-page-1/#comment-3022292</link>
		<dc:creator>Derek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2012 04:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ive also followed Sam&#039;s writing. I must say this is a very encouraging post. Being able to read your story like this. You are only 5 years older then me and you are retired, how crazy is that!

Going through hard times in life always seems to have a point to it. I&#039;m currently going through some hard times now.. guess I have something to look forward to. I&#039;ll see what good comes out of it! Life takes hard work, setting goals and gaining knowledge and wisdom from people like Sam or JD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ive also followed Sam&#8217;s writing. I must say this is a very encouraging post. Being able to read your story like this. You are only 5 years older then me and you are retired, how crazy is that!</p>
<p>Going through hard times in life always seems to have a point to it. I&#8217;m currently going through some hard times now.. guess I have something to look forward to. I&#8217;ll see what good comes out of it! Life takes hard work, setting goals and gaining knowledge and wisdom from people like Sam or JD.</p>
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		<title>By: Lucille</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lucille</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2012 04:46:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see any of this as &quot;bleak&quot;. These are just life lessons. I&#039;m not sure you&#039;ve really dealt with adversity. Perhaps prosperity doesn&#039;t ride well with humility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see any of this as &#8220;bleak&#8221;. These are just life lessons. I&#8217;m not sure you&#8217;ve really dealt with adversity. Perhaps prosperity doesn&#8217;t ride well with humility.</p>
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		<title>By: Financial Samurai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Financial Samurai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 21:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, we all grow old, and then that&#039;s the end of life. I fully expect health insurance costs to go up. For $1,500 a month, you can get coverage for a family of four with two kids.

The secret to coverage is to just pay more for coverage. I&#039;m not quite sure what the deeper meaning is that you are asking.

Perhaps you want to read this post to have a better understanding of my current income streams.

http://www.financialsamurai.com/2012/04/16/achieve-financial-freedom-slice/

Thanks,

Sam</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, we all grow old, and then that&#8217;s the end of life. I fully expect health insurance costs to go up. For $1,500 a month, you can get coverage for a family of four with two kids.</p>
<p>The secret to coverage is to just pay more for coverage. I&#8217;m not quite sure what the deeper meaning is that you are asking.</p>
<p>Perhaps you want to read this post to have a better understanding of my current income streams.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.financialsamurai.com/2012/04/16/achieve-financial-freedom-slice/" rel="nofollow">http://www.financialsamurai.com/2012/04/16/achieve-financial-freedom-slice/</a></p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Sam</p>
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		<title>By: RJB</title>
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		<dc:creator>RJB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 20:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, that works well for a single 35-year-old.  However, you won&#039;t stay 35 for long.  At some point, you&#039;ll be 50, 55, 60.  The rates might not seem so reasonable anymore for a person that age, and the benefits from your former job would have ended long ago. 

Also, you may or may not still be single at that time.  Let&#039;s say you&#039;re not.  Now there are health insurance costs for your spouse, and for your children if any.  How would those be covered?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, that works well for a single 35-year-old.  However, you won&#8217;t stay 35 for long.  At some point, you&#8217;ll be 50, 55, 60.  The rates might not seem so reasonable anymore for a person that age, and the benefits from your former job would have ended long ago. </p>
<p>Also, you may or may not still be single at that time.  Let&#8217;s say you&#8217;re not.  Now there are health insurance costs for your spouse, and for your children if any.  How would those be covered?</p>
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		<title>By: Lincoln</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lincoln</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 18:44:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had significant &quot;paper losses&quot; in my 401(k) during 2008-09, but since I still have decades to go for retirement, I just viewed it as dollar-cost-averaging that would probably help me in the long-term.  As such, I INCREASED my 401(k) contributions during the years the market was looking awful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had significant &#8220;paper losses&#8221; in my 401(k) during 2008-09, but since I still have decades to go for retirement, I just viewed it as dollar-cost-averaging that would probably help me in the long-term.  As such, I INCREASED my 401(k) contributions during the years the market was looking awful.</p>
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		<title>By: Financial Samurai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Financial Samurai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 00:43:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi RJB,

Health insurance is pretty cheap if you check online. A single health 35 year old can get HI for $350/month for example. There are a lot of issues. Check esurance or somewhere.

As part of my severance, I have health care for a specific period of time for free. It is great, and something one gets if they get to engineer their layoff or just get laid off. You don&#039;t quit, you get nothing.

One of my properties is sucking wind. So yes, it is only a paper loss, but it is psychologically a painful loss and does cost me more than I take in. If we go this route, then really, if we have enough money to survive, any money above subsistence is just psychological as well. 

Best, 

Sam</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi RJB,</p>
<p>Health insurance is pretty cheap if you check online. A single health 35 year old can get HI for $350/month for example. There are a lot of issues. Check esurance or somewhere.</p>
<p>As part of my severance, I have health care for a specific period of time for free. It is great, and something one gets if they get to engineer their layoff or just get laid off. You don&#8217;t quit, you get nothing.</p>
<p>One of my properties is sucking wind. So yes, it is only a paper loss, but it is psychologically a painful loss and does cost me more than I take in. If we go this route, then really, if we have enough money to survive, any money above subsistence is just psychological as well. </p>
<p>Best, </p>
<p>Sam</p>
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		<title>By: RJB</title>
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		<dc:creator>RJB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 20:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I only scanned the comments, but two things are unclear to me.

First, if you retired at age 35, how are you paying for health insurance? Are you paying for it with your savings, or are you going without?

Second, I fail to understand how the collapse of the housing market directly affected you.  Granted, if you were about to sell your own home, or one of the rental properties, then yes, that&#039;s a problem.  But if the rentals were paying for themselves, who cares what their market value would be?  And if you were comfortable in your own home, and could afford the mortgage payment, and weren&#039;t planning to move, then what&#039;s the difference what the sales price would be?  Stay in it as long as it suits your needs.  Only when you decide to move would the sales price actually affect you.  Otherwise, the &quot;loss&quot; is purely theoretical.  No?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I only scanned the comments, but two things are unclear to me.</p>
<p>First, if you retired at age 35, how are you paying for health insurance? Are you paying for it with your savings, or are you going without?</p>
<p>Second, I fail to understand how the collapse of the housing market directly affected you.  Granted, if you were about to sell your own home, or one of the rental properties, then yes, that&#8217;s a problem.  But if the rentals were paying for themselves, who cares what their market value would be?  And if you were comfortable in your own home, and could afford the mortgage payment, and weren&#8217;t planning to move, then what&#8217;s the difference what the sales price would be?  Stay in it as long as it suits your needs.  Only when you decide to move would the sales price actually affect you.  Otherwise, the &#8220;loss&#8221; is purely theoretical.  No?</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Murphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 14:15:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fantastic post. Love the author&#039;s relentlessly positive attitude in the face of spectacular misfortune. Sounds like he took a big hit but was able to improvise, modify, adapt, and overcome. I really dig stories like this because it requires a toughness that, frankly, few people have. 

Truly inspiring - thanks a ton for writing.

Tim Murphy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fantastic post. Love the author&#8217;s relentlessly positive attitude in the face of spectacular misfortune. Sounds like he took a big hit but was able to improvise, modify, adapt, and overcome. I really dig stories like this because it requires a toughness that, frankly, few people have. </p>
<p>Truly inspiring &#8211; thanks a ton for writing.</p>
<p>Tim Murphy</p>
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		<title>By: Financial Samurai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Financial Samurai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 04:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fair enough, but do you think your first comment saying &quot;wow this is hypocritical&quot; and &quot;condescending&quot; is really constructive criticism?

How would you react if you got that type of response? Your second comment is constructive, but definitely not your first.

Share with me your story. Why do you think other commenters have no problem with this post?

Do you mind reading this post after you&#039;re done answering my questions?  http://www.financialsamurai.com/2012/06/23/you-will-always-be-viewed-as-arrogant-if-you-have-more/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair enough, but do you think your first comment saying &#8220;wow this is hypocritical&#8221; and &#8220;condescending&#8221; is really constructive criticism?</p>
<p>How would you react if you got that type of response? Your second comment is constructive, but definitely not your first.</p>
<p>Share with me your story. Why do you think other commenters have no problem with this post?</p>
<p>Do you mind reading this post after you&#8217;re done answering my questions?  <a href="http://www.financialsamurai.com/2012/06/23/you-will-always-be-viewed-as-arrogant-if-you-have-more/" rel="nofollow">http://www.financialsamurai.com/2012/06/23/you-will-always-be-viewed-as-arrogant-if-you-have-more/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Financial Samurai</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2012/09/09/reader-story-finding-hope-in-the-bleakest-of-situations/comment-page-1/#comment-2985142</link>
		<dc:creator>Financial Samurai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 04:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How is this a &#039;get rich blogging&#039; article when 99% of my wealth is from my savings and investments?

What&#039;s your story? Love to hear it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How is this a &#8216;get rich blogging&#8217; article when 99% of my wealth is from my savings and investments?</p>
<p>What&#8217;s your story? Love to hear it.</p>
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		<title>By: Financial Samurai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Financial Samurai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 03:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi BM,

I&#039;m definitely not in the 1% with no more day job income! :)  But, that&#039;s the thing, I don&#039;t mind. The free time increase has been wonderful and worth it.

S</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi BM,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m definitely not in the 1% with no more day job income! <img src='http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   But, that&#8217;s the thing, I don&#8217;t mind. The free time increase has been wonderful and worth it.</p>
<p>S</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 02:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m willing to bet not everyone reading this blog worked in finance for 13 years playing with other people&#039;s money nor was able to accumulate those kinds of numbers in about 10 years time.  If I&#039;m doing the math correctly, in the span of 9 or 10yrs you were able to accumulate at least 600k (College grad at ~22yo, working 13yrs takes you to 35) you lost hundreds of thousands of dollars quickly by ~2009) in investments - so money invested after paying your living expenses were accounted for.

Those that get there, wherever &quot;there&quot; is sometimes forget how to relate to those not as fortunate to get &quot;there&#039;.  This feels a bit like another &#039;get rich blogging&#039; article when all is said and done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m willing to bet not everyone reading this blog worked in finance for 13 years playing with other people&#8217;s money nor was able to accumulate those kinds of numbers in about 10 years time.  If I&#8217;m doing the math correctly, in the span of 9 or 10yrs you were able to accumulate at least 600k (College grad at ~22yo, working 13yrs takes you to 35) you lost hundreds of thousands of dollars quickly by ~2009) in investments &#8211; so money invested after paying your living expenses were accounted for.</p>
<p>Those that get there, wherever &#8220;there&#8221; is sometimes forget how to relate to those not as fortunate to get &#8220;there&#8217;.  This feels a bit like another &#8216;get rich blogging&#8217; article when all is said and done.</p>
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		<title>By: MamaMia</title>
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		<dc:creator>MamaMia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 02:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Condescending because by stating that studying hard was your key to financial success, you imply that Charles (and others who have not met with the same success) did not study hard — indeed that he&#039;s even uneducated or undereducated. Though I don&#039;t know Charles personally (and I&#039;ll grant you that he seems to have a chip on his shoulder), I&#039;m sure there are many others here who can tell you that achieving a higher education can just as easily be the key to back-breaking debt. (Where&#039;s Honey Smith when you need her?)  

Hypocritical because yes, in the article you do blame others (incl. the gov&#039;t, pols, and your former tenants) for your losses. You say in your reply here, and in a subheading in your article, that &quot;you&#039;re a changed man&quot; and no longer so angry, but that&#039;s not quite the same thing as taking responsibility for your situation. Nor is &quot;coping&quot; the same as &quot;changing one&#039;s attitude.&quot; At least, I just skimmed over your article again, and I don&#039;t see such a change in actual words. 

FWIW, I don&#039;t resent you your former wealth or your newfound promising career trajectory, and I wish you well in future. I&#039;m just sayin&#039;, the tone of your writing strikes me as unempathetic; egotistical. You can take that or leave it — I&#039;m just one reader — but I do mean it as constructive criticism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Condescending because by stating that studying hard was your key to financial success, you imply that Charles (and others who have not met with the same success) did not study hard — indeed that he&#8217;s even uneducated or undereducated. Though I don&#8217;t know Charles personally (and I&#8217;ll grant you that he seems to have a chip on his shoulder), I&#8217;m sure there are many others here who can tell you that achieving a higher education can just as easily be the key to back-breaking debt. (Where&#8217;s Honey Smith when you need her?)  </p>
<p>Hypocritical because yes, in the article you do blame others (incl. the gov&#8217;t, pols, and your former tenants) for your losses. You say in your reply here, and in a subheading in your article, that &#8220;you&#8217;re a changed man&#8221; and no longer so angry, but that&#8217;s not quite the same thing as taking responsibility for your situation. Nor is &#8220;coping&#8221; the same as &#8220;changing one&#8217;s attitude.&#8221; At least, I just skimmed over your article again, and I don&#8217;t see such a change in actual words. </p>
<p>FWIW, I don&#8217;t resent you your former wealth or your newfound promising career trajectory, and I wish you well in future. I&#8217;m just sayin&#8217;, the tone of your writing strikes me as unempathetic; egotistical. You can take that or leave it — I&#8217;m just one reader — but I do mean it as constructive criticism.</p>
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		<title>By: BD</title>
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		<dc:creator>BD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 01:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carla, 
I&#039;m not a total greenhorn. I KNOW what farm life entails. I&#039;m NOT romanticizing it. However, unlike most people, I don&#039;t mind being armful up in cow fetus and goo to pull out a calf. It simply doesn&#039;t gross me out. I&#039;d even clean the smegma out of a gelding, or put down an animal that is suffering. I&#039;d deal with botflies in the nose, stomach and anus of the animals, or a cow that has explosive diarrhea (word to the wise: Do NOT stand behind a cow when it is sick if you don&#039;t want to get dirty). All these things are just things you deal with when you own animals. For people that love animals enough, it doesn&#039;t phase them... it&#039;s just something you deal with, because there are times that make all the crap (no pun intended) 100% worth it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carla,<br />
I&#8217;m not a total greenhorn. I KNOW what farm life entails. I&#8217;m NOT romanticizing it. However, unlike most people, I don&#8217;t mind being armful up in cow fetus and goo to pull out a calf. It simply doesn&#8217;t gross me out. I&#8217;d even clean the smegma out of a gelding, or put down an animal that is suffering. I&#8217;d deal with botflies in the nose, stomach and anus of the animals, or a cow that has explosive diarrhea (word to the wise: Do NOT stand behind a cow when it is sick if you don&#8217;t want to get dirty). All these things are just things you deal with when you own animals. For people that love animals enough, it doesn&#8217;t phase them&#8230; it&#8217;s just something you deal with, because there are times that make all the crap (no pun intended) 100% worth it.</p>
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		<title>By: tracylee</title>
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		<dc:creator>tracylee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 00:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Tracy! I&#039;ve been around for awhile but don&#039;t post a lot. You are welcome to post as Tracy - I&#039;ll be tracylee from now on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tracy! I&#8217;ve been around for awhile but don&#8217;t post a lot. You are welcome to post as Tracy &#8211; I&#8217;ll be tracylee from now on.</p>
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		<title>By: Financial Samurai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Financial Samurai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 23:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahh, my skin as as thick as an elephant&#039;s butt! I love everyone&#039;s thoughts!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahh, my skin as as thick as an elephant&#8217;s butt! I love everyone&#8217;s thoughts!</p>
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		<title>By: Kathleen @ Frugal Portland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathleen @ Frugal Portland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 22:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Best of luck -- and kudos for having a thick enough skin to post here at the shark tank!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Best of luck &#8212; and kudos for having a thick enough skin to post here at the shark tank!</p>
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		<title>By: Ramblin' Ma'am</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ramblin' Ma'am</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 19:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this a good time to mention that the Reader Story pitch itself says, &quot;Want submit your own reader story?&quot;

That has been bugging me for a while.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this a good time to mention that the Reader Story pitch itself says, &#8220;Want submit your own reader story?&#8221;</p>
<p>That has been bugging me for a while.</p>
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		<title>By: Clint</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 17:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cripes, it&#039;s just a title, people! When did we all become so easily offended? Does a guy have to lose his house and be at death&#039;s door before you can take just a little something away from his story?

Bleakest of times? Why I never! Cancel my subscription immediately!

Wait, you&#039;re saying all these interesting stories are free?

Why I never! Cancel the internet!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cripes, it&#8217;s just a title, people! When did we all become so easily offended? Does a guy have to lose his house and be at death&#8217;s door before you can take just a little something away from his story?</p>
<p>Bleakest of times? Why I never! Cancel my subscription immediately!</p>
<p>Wait, you&#8217;re saying all these interesting stories are free?</p>
<p>Why I never! Cancel the internet!</p>
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		<title>By: Financial Samurai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Financial Samurai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 17:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right on! It&#039;s more fun to be an optimist than a pessimist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right on! It&#8217;s more fun to be an optimist than a pessimist.</p>
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		<title>By: Financial Samurai</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2012/09/09/reader-story-finding-hope-in-the-bleakest-of-situations/comment-page-1/#comment-2984272</link>
		<dc:creator>Financial Samurai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 17:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ryan #76,

Thanks for your comment. To answer your questions, I became financially independent through 13 years of saving, investing, sweating, and taking a lot of risks. 2008-2009 slaughtered me financially, and I thought I was going to lose everything at one point.

I never thought I&#039;d be able to last at my job more than 5 years, let alone 13 years. Everything gets a little dull after a while, and I know a lot of people feel the same way about their jobs.

You can read this post (http://www.financialsamurai.com/2012/04/16/achieve-financial-freedom-slice/) where I highlight my investments and passive income streams. I decided at the age of 35 it was NOW OR NEVER. I wanted to show people that even in bleak situations such as when the world was ending in 2008-2009, that doing something small can make profound differences in one&#039;s life over time.

I originally wanted to gut it out for 5 more years until I was 40, but I decided to take the leap of faith and do something on my own. JD took his leap of faith, and I have been following GRS since early 2008 and watched him evolve.

Things change. Circumstances change. What we can control is our own outlook, our own optimism, and our own work ethic. Everything else, we just hope for the best. 

Thanks for reading.

Best,

Sam</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ryan #76,</p>
<p>Thanks for your comment. To answer your questions, I became financially independent through 13 years of saving, investing, sweating, and taking a lot of risks. 2008-2009 slaughtered me financially, and I thought I was going to lose everything at one point.</p>
<p>I never thought I&#8217;d be able to last at my job more than 5 years, let alone 13 years. Everything gets a little dull after a while, and I know a lot of people feel the same way about their jobs.</p>
<p>You can read this post (<a href="http://www.financialsamurai.com/2012/04/16/achieve-financial-freedom-slice/" rel="nofollow">http://www.financialsamurai.com/2012/04/16/achieve-financial-freedom-slice/</a>) where I highlight my investments and passive income streams. I decided at the age of 35 it was NOW OR NEVER. I wanted to show people that even in bleak situations such as when the world was ending in 2008-2009, that doing something small can make profound differences in one&#8217;s life over time.</p>
<p>I originally wanted to gut it out for 5 more years until I was 40, but I decided to take the leap of faith and do something on my own. JD took his leap of faith, and I have been following GRS since early 2008 and watched him evolve.</p>
<p>Things change. Circumstances change. What we can control is our own outlook, our own optimism, and our own work ethic. Everything else, we just hope for the best. </p>
<p>Thanks for reading.</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Sam</p>
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		<title>By: Brooklyn Money</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brooklyn Money</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 17:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found this post very valuable (granted I see similarities between my situation and the author, but I&#039;m still chugging away on the 9-8 track). I don&#039;t understand all of the negative backlash. Also, he is not the 1% (at least not from how he described himself I am guessing).  From the Economist: The average household income of the 1% was $1.2m in 2008, according to federal tax data. The ultra-rich skew that average upwards: admission to the 1% began at $380,000 in 2008. The Congressional Budget Office puts the cut-off lower, at $347,000 in 2007, or $252,000 after subtracting federal taxes and adding back transfers. Measured by net worth, rather than income, the top 1% started at $6.9m in 2009, according to the Federal Reserve, down 23% from 2007.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found this post very valuable (granted I see similarities between my situation and the author, but I&#8217;m still chugging away on the 9-8 track). I don&#8217;t understand all of the negative backlash. Also, he is not the 1% (at least not from how he described himself I am guessing).  From the Economist: The average household income of the 1% was $1.2m in 2008, according to federal tax data. The ultra-rich skew that average upwards: admission to the 1% began at $380,000 in 2008. The Congressional Budget Office puts the cut-off lower, at $347,000 in 2007, or $252,000 after subtracting federal taxes and adding back transfers. Measured by net worth, rather than income, the top 1% started at $6.9m in 2009, according to the Federal Reserve, down 23% from 2007.</p>
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		<title>By: Carla</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 17:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it interesting how many people idealize farm life.  A friend of mine grew up on a farm and it was no walk in the park: getting up at 3:00AM to deliver a sheep (yuck) and some of them died in the process, getting kicked in the gut by a cow while in the process of performing an enema on them (yes, they get constipated), dealing with the aftermath of an enema, getting chased by a swarm of bees while you&#039;re allergic, dealing with the financial burden of sick animals, unseasonable weather, etc.  Never being able to travel or leave town for extended periods of time and always living on the edge financially. 

Its charming on TV or in magazines, but the reality is a hard life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it interesting how many people idealize farm life.  A friend of mine grew up on a farm and it was no walk in the park: getting up at 3:00AM to deliver a sheep (yuck) and some of them died in the process, getting kicked in the gut by a cow while in the process of performing an enema on them (yes, they get constipated), dealing with the aftermath of an enema, getting chased by a swarm of bees while you&#8217;re allergic, dealing with the financial burden of sick animals, unseasonable weather, etc.  Never being able to travel or leave town for extended periods of time and always living on the edge financially. </p>
<p>Its charming on TV or in magazines, but the reality is a hard life.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 17:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam,
As a reader of this blog from 2007, and having seen JD&#039;s path to financial independence, I can&#039;t help but have a little bit of cynicism about what you discuss here.  Please let me expound further.
So JD begins a blog, helps develop an online personal finance community, increases number of pageviews, sells out the blog, declares financial independence and doesn&#039;t inform readers at the time of his selling out.
You follow same path here today...now declaring financial independence.  It seems that yet another personal finance blogger has fixed their personal finances by blogging (and I suspect also selling out their blog).  I am really having a hard time relating to these self-help personal finance blogs anymore, because I feel that the blog owner&#039;s motivation is insincere...
How do you respond to a reader questioning your authenticity in this way?  Do any other readers feel the same?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam,<br />
As a reader of this blog from 2007, and having seen JD&#8217;s path to financial independence, I can&#8217;t help but have a little bit of cynicism about what you discuss here.  Please let me expound further.<br />
So JD begins a blog, helps develop an online personal finance community, increases number of pageviews, sells out the blog, declares financial independence and doesn&#8217;t inform readers at the time of his selling out.<br />
You follow same path here today&#8230;now declaring financial independence.  It seems that yet another personal finance blogger has fixed their personal finances by blogging (and I suspect also selling out their blog).  I am really having a hard time relating to these self-help personal finance blogs anymore, because I feel that the blog owner&#8217;s motivation is insincere&#8230;<br />
How do you respond to a reader questioning your authenticity in this way?  Do any other readers feel the same?</p>
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		<title>By: Tracy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 15:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Replying to myself...looks like I&#039;m the newer one LOL. I&#039;ll come up with a different handle for any future posts. The Other Tracy or something like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Replying to myself&#8230;looks like I&#8217;m the newer one LOL. I&#8217;ll come up with a different handle for any future posts. The Other Tracy or something like that.</p>
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		<title>By: Financial Samurai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Financial Samurai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 15:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Erica,

I should have done a better job of redescribing how bleak the 2009 year was. I really thought I was going to lose everything and get fired and live at home w/ my parents.

I was hoping to connect w/ others who lost a lot during this time period share their stories as well. 

S</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Erica,</p>
<p>I should have done a better job of redescribing how bleak the 2009 year was. I really thought I was going to lose everything and get fired and live at home w/ my parents.</p>
<p>I was hoping to connect w/ others who lost a lot during this time period share their stories as well. </p>
<p>S</p>
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		<title>By: Financial Samurai</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2012/09/09/reader-story-finding-hope-in-the-bleakest-of-situations/comment-page-1/#comment-2983892</link>
		<dc:creator>Financial Samurai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 15:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Howdy Lincoln,

&quot;Rich&quot; is relative. I can assure you that I am poor compared to many of my friends in SF. Furthermore, I don&#039;t have a W2 income anymore, and am therefore earn much less since I&#039;m just surviving off my passive investments now (rental, dividends, deferred comp etc).

I don&#039;t know your financial status, age, goals, outlook, but here&#039;s what I would do if I did not discover the online world:

* Look into rental property that have been hit and yield 2X the borrowing cost if you need a mortgage e.g. 8% rental yield and 4% mortgage. I think it&#039;s a no brainer if you can accumulate immediately accretive assets now. You have an optionality of appreciation over time as well. Just hold it for a long enough time.

* I traded money for more time. For some reason, I feel very sensitive to my mortality and how quickly time goes. Here are the income streams I developed in more detail: http://www.financialsamurai.com/2012/04/16/achieve-financial-freedom-slice/. I&#039;m looking into Social Lending now, and paying off rental property mortgage (3.375%) when my 7-year CD&#039;s come due.

* I plan to just live off the cash flow of the passive investments, or just the online income pennies that I can generate and keep the passive investments compounding.

* If I lost everything, I would get a job at a startup or probably go back into finance and start a blog. I&#039;d probably be so risk averse that all my investments would probably just be in CDs. I&#039;d make sure I have enough insurance so I would get wiped out.

Thx, Sam</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Howdy Lincoln,</p>
<p>&#8220;Rich&#8221; is relative. I can assure you that I am poor compared to many of my friends in SF. Furthermore, I don&#8217;t have a W2 income anymore, and am therefore earn much less since I&#8217;m just surviving off my passive investments now (rental, dividends, deferred comp etc).</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know your financial status, age, goals, outlook, but here&#8217;s what I would do if I did not discover the online world:</p>
<p>* Look into rental property that have been hit and yield 2X the borrowing cost if you need a mortgage e.g. 8% rental yield and 4% mortgage. I think it&#8217;s a no brainer if you can accumulate immediately accretive assets now. You have an optionality of appreciation over time as well. Just hold it for a long enough time.</p>
<p>* I traded money for more time. For some reason, I feel very sensitive to my mortality and how quickly time goes. Here are the income streams I developed in more detail: <a href="http://www.financialsamurai.com/2012/04/16/achieve-financial-freedom-slice/" rel="nofollow">http://www.financialsamurai.com/2012/04/16/achieve-financial-freedom-slice/</a>. I&#8217;m looking into Social Lending now, and paying off rental property mortgage (3.375%) when my 7-year CD&#8217;s come due.</p>
<p>* I plan to just live off the cash flow of the passive investments, or just the online income pennies that I can generate and keep the passive investments compounding.</p>
<p>* If I lost everything, I would get a job at a startup or probably go back into finance and start a blog. I&#8217;d probably be so risk averse that all my investments would probably just be in CDs. I&#8217;d make sure I have enough insurance so I would get wiped out.</p>
<p>Thx, Sam</p>
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		<title>By: Erica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 14:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly. He still lost a third of his hard-earned money. While it may not have been a debilitating situation like it would be to some, I&#039;m sure it was very frustrating, demoralizing and scary.

Although I do agree the title of this article could use an adjustment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly. He still lost a third of his hard-earned money. While it may not have been a debilitating situation like it would be to some, I&#8217;m sure it was very frustrating, demoralizing and scary.</p>
<p>Although I do agree the title of this article could use an adjustment.</p>
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		<title>By: Tracy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 13:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand different philosophical stances on taxation, but the idea that Americans are suffering most of their woes due to high taxes is silly IMO. Tax rates are at their lowest since the 50s (yes, even for the middle class). Likewise, pretty much all consumer goods are considerably cheaper now than they were back in Ye Goode Olde Days. The problem is that wages have stagnated or dropped, at the same time that three essential categories of spending (housing/education/health care) have risen faster than the rate of inflation (much faster). 

ETA: there are two of us Tracys posting. I think the other one might be new to the blog?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand different philosophical stances on taxation, but the idea that Americans are suffering most of their woes due to high taxes is silly IMO. Tax rates are at their lowest since the 50s (yes, even for the middle class). Likewise, pretty much all consumer goods are considerably cheaper now than they were back in Ye Goode Olde Days. The problem is that wages have stagnated or dropped, at the same time that three essential categories of spending (housing/education/health care) have risen faster than the rate of inflation (much faster). </p>
<p>ETA: there are two of us Tracys posting. I think the other one might be new to the blog?</p>
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		<title>By: getagrip</title>
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		<dc:creator>getagrip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 12:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To me it&#039;s the title, not just a poor choice, a horrible choice. 

&quot;Bleakest of situations&quot; to me is like when my friend was diagnosed with a rare and aggressive form of cancer in late 2008  Even as he suffered the affects of the cancer and the treatment he had to constantly fight with his office while they tried to find creative ways to fire him to get him off their insurance rolls.  This at the same time he&#039;d watched his carefully grown assests plummet in value at the point he and his family needed them most.  Then he got to make a choice of paupering himself and his family (non-working spouse and three young kids) seeking a potential experimental cure at an out of state facility that could gave him a 50% chance at a decade or more of life, or sticking with the traditional insurance covered treatment, which, while not paupering his family, had a low (20%) probability of doing the same.  He chose not to pauper his family and though he did amazing, it finally got the better of him and he passed in 2010.

Sorry, but keeping your job without a significant pay cut, not facing foreclosures, not facing total financial ruin, not facing any serious choice or lifestyle adjustment other than bitting you nails with fretting, and not having anyone but yourself you&#039;re responsible for, doesn&#039;t even come close to &quot;bleak&quot; no matter what the financial landscape looks like or how you got better.

I can appreciate your story, but just can&#039;t stomach the title being associated with it especially given the raw nerves and lives many people have with respect to the last four years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To me it&#8217;s the title, not just a poor choice, a horrible choice. </p>
<p>&#8220;Bleakest of situations&#8221; to me is like when my friend was diagnosed with a rare and aggressive form of cancer in late 2008  Even as he suffered the affects of the cancer and the treatment he had to constantly fight with his office while they tried to find creative ways to fire him to get him off their insurance rolls.  This at the same time he&#8217;d watched his carefully grown assests plummet in value at the point he and his family needed them most.  Then he got to make a choice of paupering himself and his family (non-working spouse and three young kids) seeking a potential experimental cure at an out of state facility that could gave him a 50% chance at a decade or more of life, or sticking with the traditional insurance covered treatment, which, while not paupering his family, had a low (20%) probability of doing the same.  He chose not to pauper his family and though he did amazing, it finally got the better of him and he passed in 2010.</p>
<p>Sorry, but keeping your job without a significant pay cut, not facing foreclosures, not facing total financial ruin, not facing any serious choice or lifestyle adjustment other than bitting you nails with fretting, and not having anyone but yourself you&#8217;re responsible for, doesn&#8217;t even come close to &#8220;bleak&#8221; no matter what the financial landscape looks like or how you got better.</p>
<p>I can appreciate your story, but just can&#8217;t stomach the title being associated with it especially given the raw nerves and lives many people have with respect to the last four years.</p>
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