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	<title>Comments on: What Matters in Matters of Love and Finance</title>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2012/09/11/what-matters-in-matters-of-love-and-finance/comment-page-1/#comment-2995862</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2012 02:27:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Laura:  &quot;Scold people who use rewards credit cards who don’t care that it drives up costs for everyone, or who buy cheap goods who don’t care that it was made by slave labor, or corporations who off-shore jobs to make a profit, or who bring down the economy and whine they need a bailout of more money because they’re too big to fail.&quot;

How can you compare any of the other examples to people using a rewards credit card? Credit cards don&#039;t drive up costs--and you can always try to negotiate a cash price. In the case of buying a new car, sometimes the credit price is cheaper than cash (I&#039;ve bought a car cheaper with financing only to pay it off a week later).   

Would you also argue that people using coupons and discounts raise prices for those dumb enough not to use them?  

If you want to scold people, Laura, you should be scolding Ben Bernanke.  He is making your purchases cost more regardless of your payment type.  And yet we don&#039;t see any articles here highlighting that the major beneficiaries of Bernanke&#039;s &quot;easing&quot; are the rich.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Laura:  &#8220;Scold people who use rewards credit cards who don’t care that it drives up costs for everyone, or who buy cheap goods who don’t care that it was made by slave labor, or corporations who off-shore jobs to make a profit, or who bring down the economy and whine they need a bailout of more money because they’re too big to fail.&#8221;</p>
<p>How can you compare any of the other examples to people using a rewards credit card? Credit cards don&#8217;t drive up costs&#8211;and you can always try to negotiate a cash price. In the case of buying a new car, sometimes the credit price is cheaper than cash (I&#8217;ve bought a car cheaper with financing only to pay it off a week later).   </p>
<p>Would you also argue that people using coupons and discounts raise prices for those dumb enough not to use them?  </p>
<p>If you want to scold people, Laura, you should be scolding Ben Bernanke.  He is making your purchases cost more regardless of your payment type.  And yet we don&#8217;t see any articles here highlighting that the major beneficiaries of Bernanke&#8217;s &#8220;easing&#8221; are the rich.</p>
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		<title>By: Katie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2012 18:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She is opening herself up to risk.  That doesn&#039;t mean the situation will turn out poorly - that&#039;s why it&#039;s risk and not certainty.  It also doesn&#039;t mean she shouldn&#039;t do it.  Everything in life involves some risk, including any career choice someone makes.  But it also doesn&#039;t mean we shouldn&#039;t talk openly about the risk inherent in certain choices vs. others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She is opening herself up to risk.  That doesn&#8217;t mean the situation will turn out poorly &#8211; that&#8217;s why it&#8217;s risk and not certainty.  It also doesn&#8217;t mean she shouldn&#8217;t do it.  Everything in life involves some risk, including any career choice someone makes.  But it also doesn&#8217;t mean we shouldn&#8217;t talk openly about the risk inherent in certain choices vs. others.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexandra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2012 13:20:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huge eyeroll right back at you, sister.

I have never enjoyed your articles in the past because it doesn&#039;t seem like you have worthwhile advice to give someone like me, who is well beyond your level in all matters financial.  But to *eyeroll* anyone who considers divorce in their family financial planning is just rude and frankly, pretty well sums up your immature and unworldly attitude towards finances.

We&#039;ll see you back here in a few years when your husband gets tired of your organic fruit antics.

JD, can we dump this writer?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huge eyeroll right back at you, sister.</p>
<p>I have never enjoyed your articles in the past because it doesn&#8217;t seem like you have worthwhile advice to give someone like me, who is well beyond your level in all matters financial.  But to *eyeroll* anyone who considers divorce in their family financial planning is just rude and frankly, pretty well sums up your immature and unworldly attitude towards finances.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ll see you back here in a few years when your husband gets tired of your organic fruit antics.</p>
<p>JD, can we dump this writer?</p>
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		<title>By: Rosa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rosa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2012 03:26:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the whole &quot;don&#039;t plan for divorce!&quot; thing has been a big argument here before - I don&#039;t think it&#039;s ever come from the posts before, but there have always been commenters who want to jump in to *any* talk of married people&#039;s finances to say how having separate checkbooks/retirement funds/protected assets is wrong because it&#039;s &quot;planning for divorce&quot;.

So I&#039;m sure it didn&#039;t surprise the writer or editor that this sparked a lot of discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the whole &#8220;don&#8217;t plan for divorce!&#8221; thing has been a big argument here before &#8211; I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s ever come from the posts before, but there have always been commenters who want to jump in to *any* talk of married people&#8217;s finances to say how having separate checkbooks/retirement funds/protected assets is wrong because it&#8217;s &#8220;planning for divorce&#8221;.</p>
<p>So I&#8217;m sure it didn&#8217;t surprise the writer or editor that this sparked a lot of discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: Jenifer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jenifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 19:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: &quot;planning for divorce...or not&quot;

People are so sensitive or are you just picking it apart for sport?

The take-away is to plan financially for unknowns to the best of our ability whether death or divorce.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: &#8220;planning for divorce&#8230;or not&#8221;</p>
<p>People are so sensitive or are you just picking it apart for sport?</p>
<p>The take-away is to plan financially for unknowns to the best of our ability whether death or divorce.</p>
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		<title>By: Jane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 18:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excoriate was perhaps a strong word - and now that I look at it, you weren&#039;t directly addressing the stay at home mom but rather her brother in law. But let&#039;s look at what you said, namely that &quot;I can’t imagine leaving myself open to that much financial risk.&quot; You don&#039;t know for certain that she is leaving herself open to financial risk. That is conjecture. I think it&#039;s right that your own fears are speaking there. And by speaking up and then having over 30 people like it, it is essentially sending the message that this woman or any woman like her is likely sacrificing her financial future by staying at home. You very well might agree with that. I don&#039;t. That logic has become almost a truism on parenting and personal finance sites. I just don&#039;t think it&#039;s very accurate for most stay at home moms. 

And by your logic about changing skills in a fast paced world, no one should ever take a break from the work force ever. I find it a pretty sad prospect that I should work my whole life (even if I don&#039;t have to) out of fear for the future. What about those who take time off to care for a sick relative? Should they not do that? I imagine most of us who do leave the work force are well aware of the risks, but the rewards outweigh the possible pitfalls, at least for us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excoriate was perhaps a strong word &#8211; and now that I look at it, you weren&#8217;t directly addressing the stay at home mom but rather her brother in law. But let&#8217;s look at what you said, namely that &#8220;I can’t imagine leaving myself open to that much financial risk.&#8221; You don&#8217;t know for certain that she is leaving herself open to financial risk. That is conjecture. I think it&#8217;s right that your own fears are speaking there. And by speaking up and then having over 30 people like it, it is essentially sending the message that this woman or any woman like her is likely sacrificing her financial future by staying at home. You very well might agree with that. I don&#8217;t. That logic has become almost a truism on parenting and personal finance sites. I just don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s very accurate for most stay at home moms. </p>
<p>And by your logic about changing skills in a fast paced world, no one should ever take a break from the work force ever. I find it a pretty sad prospect that I should work my whole life (even if I don&#8217;t have to) out of fear for the future. What about those who take time off to care for a sick relative? Should they not do that? I imagine most of us who do leave the work force are well aware of the risks, but the rewards outweigh the possible pitfalls, at least for us.</p>
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		<title>By: sarah gilbert</title>
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		<dc:creator>sarah gilbert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 18:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m absolutely sure my sister was let go because she was a mom. When she was pregnant with her first child, she went in to see the principal to discuss maternity leave and she was told she wasn&#039;t expected to come back after her baby was born! (Yes, I know this is illegal, but my sister isn&#039;t inclined to pursue legal action against her employer.) She did come back after the six weeks of sick time she had saved up -- the school had no maternity leave benefits at all -- and then she went and had another baby, and was let go at the end of the next school year without any negative feedback. Feel free to castigate my sister, who you don&#039;t know but had the highest GPA of any woman ever in her physics curriculum in college, and who hopefully isn&#039;t reading my post, but it seems unkind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m absolutely sure my sister was let go because she was a mom. When she was pregnant with her first child, she went in to see the principal to discuss maternity leave and she was told she wasn&#8217;t expected to come back after her baby was born! (Yes, I know this is illegal, but my sister isn&#8217;t inclined to pursue legal action against her employer.) She did come back after the six weeks of sick time she had saved up &#8212; the school had no maternity leave benefits at all &#8212; and then she went and had another baby, and was let go at the end of the next school year without any negative feedback. Feel free to castigate my sister, who you don&#8217;t know but had the highest GPA of any woman ever in her physics curriculum in college, and who hopefully isn&#8217;t reading my post, but it seems unkind.</p>
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		<title>By: khadijah</title>
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		<dc:creator>khadijah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 18:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve heard of this. Islam has this too, a marriage contract where by both bride and groom parties can negotiate finances, living situation, divorce conditions.

In Malaysia, muslim couples need to attend mandatory pre-marriage course to learn all the legal stuff and conditions pertaining to their marriage contract. 

It baffled me when I discovered that people get married without knowing all the terms of that marriage. basically it&#039;s love conquers all... until it doesn&#039;t. and then you&#039;re screwed because you signed a piece of paper and didn&#039;t read the fine print. dang</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve heard of this. Islam has this too, a marriage contract where by both bride and groom parties can negotiate finances, living situation, divorce conditions.</p>
<p>In Malaysia, muslim couples need to attend mandatory pre-marriage course to learn all the legal stuff and conditions pertaining to their marriage contract. </p>
<p>It baffled me when I discovered that people get married without knowing all the terms of that marriage. basically it&#8217;s love conquers all&#8230; until it doesn&#8217;t. and then you&#8217;re screwed because you signed a piece of paper and didn&#8217;t read the fine print. dang</p>
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		<title>By: sarah gilbert</title>
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		<dc:creator>sarah gilbert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 18:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t respond to any of the comments yesterday because -- it was my birthday! -- but more importantly I spent the day as stage mom for one of my kids. It was a lovely day.

And then I came back to see that lots of people were very upset with me. Well, I apologize. I had no desire to sneer. I shook my head and rolled my eyes because I disagreed and this was a healthier way to respond than to immediately come on here and argue. Instead, I thought about it, and wrote a post.

I stand by my analysis. I don&#039;t think it makes any sense to plan for divorce. I&#039;m sorry if you felt sneered at. I am not sneering at you. I am making a joke about my disagreement. (And to the rest of you below here who don&#039;t like my phrasing.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t respond to any of the comments yesterday because &#8212; it was my birthday! &#8212; but more importantly I spent the day as stage mom for one of my kids. It was a lovely day.</p>
<p>And then I came back to see that lots of people were very upset with me. Well, I apologize. I had no desire to sneer. I shook my head and rolled my eyes because I disagreed and this was a healthier way to respond than to immediately come on here and argue. Instead, I thought about it, and wrote a post.</p>
<p>I stand by my analysis. I don&#8217;t think it makes any sense to plan for divorce. I&#8217;m sorry if you felt sneered at. I am not sneering at you. I am making a joke about my disagreement. (And to the rest of you below here who don&#8217;t like my phrasing.)</p>
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		<title>By: khadijah</title>
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		<dc:creator>khadijah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 18:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not gonna argue, but I&#039;m shaking my head and rolling my eyes. (I do this to avoid leaving snappy replies. work with me)

this is just your opinion.. but everything has an end, even love. believe it or not. that does not make it futile or counterproductive.

people live and fight knowing you will die
you start up companies and partner with people and PLAN ahead and not expect it to last forever... doesn&#039;t mean it&#039;s not worth a shot. some companies last generations. some, a few days. 

everything ends, but doesn&#039;t mean it&#039;s not worthwhile to reap and enjoy the benefits while it lasts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not gonna argue, but I&#8217;m shaking my head and rolling my eyes. (I do this to avoid leaving snappy replies. work with me)</p>
<p>this is just your opinion.. but everything has an end, even love. believe it or not. that does not make it futile or counterproductive.</p>
<p>people live and fight knowing you will die<br />
you start up companies and partner with people and PLAN ahead and not expect it to last forever&#8230; doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s not worth a shot. some companies last generations. some, a few days. </p>
<p>everything ends, but doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s not worthwhile to reap and enjoy the benefits while it lasts.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 17:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But if tests show that a woman is carrying a 6-week old embryo with cerebral palsy, and she chooses to carry it to term, should society be on the hook financially to provide care for that individual for their entire life?&quot;

This sounds rather like the rationale behind Hitler&#039;s Aktion T4.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But if tests show that a woman is carrying a 6-week old embryo with cerebral palsy, and she chooses to carry it to term, should society be on the hook financially to provide care for that individual for their entire life?&#8221;</p>
<p>This sounds rather like the rationale behind Hitler&#8217;s Aktion T4.</p>
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		<title>By: CincyCat</title>
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		<dc:creator>CincyCat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 17:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My sister and her husband are Jewish, and their marriage contract (&quot;ketubah&quot;) basically does exactly what you describe.  There is explicit instructions protecting the property and status that the bride brought to the marriage in the event of divorce, or the groom&#039;s death or desertion/abandonment.  At her wedding, two rabbis spent a good couple of hours working out the exact wording that would go into the contract before it was signed.

Seems to me that a culture many thousands of years old sees nothing wrong with what is basically a pre-nup, and in fact (if you follow traditional tenets of the faith), you can&#039;t be legally married without one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My sister and her husband are Jewish, and their marriage contract (&#8220;ketubah&#8221;) basically does exactly what you describe.  There is explicit instructions protecting the property and status that the bride brought to the marriage in the event of divorce, or the groom&#8217;s death or desertion/abandonment.  At her wedding, two rabbis spent a good couple of hours working out the exact wording that would go into the contract before it was signed.</p>
<p>Seems to me that a culture many thousands of years old sees nothing wrong with what is basically a pre-nup, and in fact (if you follow traditional tenets of the faith), you can&#8217;t be legally married without one.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 17:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tarun - it seems to me that the problem is in condoning irresponsible behavior through being judgmental and shaming and not bothering to consider any extenuating circumstances.  It&#039;s condemning the poor for being poor without bothering to ask why, or assuming that the only reason why has to be personal failing or irresponsibility.  It&#039;s usually much more complex than that.

If you&#039;re going to condone irresponsible behavior, then man up and condone all of it.  Scold people who use rewards credit cards who don&#039;t care that it drives up costs for everyone, or who buy cheap goods who don&#039;t care that it was made by slave labor, or corporations who off-shore jobs to make a profit, or who bring down the economy and whine they need a bailout of more money because they&#039;re too big to fail.  Don&#039;t just scold poor people who make choices that require taxpayer money.  That&#039;s one-sided.  Judge everybody who behaves in such a way that their greed trumps the greater good.

Then decide if just being judgmental and hurling an opinion around really leads to lasting change, or if it would work better to try compassionate understanding of the underlying causes and tackle those causes that created the situation.  My $0.02, k-chink.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tarun &#8211; it seems to me that the problem is in condoning irresponsible behavior through being judgmental and shaming and not bothering to consider any extenuating circumstances.  It&#8217;s condemning the poor for being poor without bothering to ask why, or assuming that the only reason why has to be personal failing or irresponsibility.  It&#8217;s usually much more complex than that.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re going to condone irresponsible behavior, then man up and condone all of it.  Scold people who use rewards credit cards who don&#8217;t care that it drives up costs for everyone, or who buy cheap goods who don&#8217;t care that it was made by slave labor, or corporations who off-shore jobs to make a profit, or who bring down the economy and whine they need a bailout of more money because they&#8217;re too big to fail.  Don&#8217;t just scold poor people who make choices that require taxpayer money.  That&#8217;s one-sided.  Judge everybody who behaves in such a way that their greed trumps the greater good.</p>
<p>Then decide if just being judgmental and hurling an opinion around really leads to lasting change, or if it would work better to try compassionate understanding of the underlying causes and tackle those causes that created the situation.  My $0.02, k-chink.</p>
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		<title>By: CincyCat</title>
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		<dc:creator>CincyCat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 16:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Babs,

I could be wrong, but I think some employers have &quot;employee + family&quot; insurance options...

(Maybe someone can chime in and clarify.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Babs,</p>
<p>I could be wrong, but I think some employers have &#8220;employee + family&#8221; insurance options&#8230;</p>
<p>(Maybe someone can chime in and clarify.)</p>
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		<title>By: phoenix1920</title>
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		<dc:creator>phoenix1920</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 16:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Umm . . . we&#039;re not setting up a great strawman, are we?  First, I know no person like this (having a third child and just living off welfare) and second, if I did, I didn&#039;t realize that so many people would be praising her for getting preg. Welfare reform laws from 10 years ago already addressed this situation.  Or are you referring to Medicaid-type programs, which are not cut off after a certain number of years and make sure the baby she is carrying is born safely and healthy? 

Second, you&#039;ve chosen a situation where you can&#039;t just erase the &quot;mistake.&quot; That&#039;s an 18-year commitment.  Exactly what course are you asking her to do? 

Finally, you&#039;ve taken a situation where there&#039;s a man who is just as culpable and removed him from blame and from the situation entirely.  Yes, it&#039;s all her fault--let&#039;s get out our pitchforks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Umm . . . we&#8217;re not setting up a great strawman, are we?  First, I know no person like this (having a third child and just living off welfare) and second, if I did, I didn&#8217;t realize that so many people would be praising her for getting preg. Welfare reform laws from 10 years ago already addressed this situation.  Or are you referring to Medicaid-type programs, which are not cut off after a certain number of years and make sure the baby she is carrying is born safely and healthy? </p>
<p>Second, you&#8217;ve chosen a situation where you can&#8217;t just erase the &#8220;mistake.&#8221; That&#8217;s an 18-year commitment.  Exactly what course are you asking her to do? </p>
<p>Finally, you&#8217;ve taken a situation where there&#8217;s a man who is just as culpable and removed him from blame and from the situation entirely.  Yes, it&#8217;s all her fault&#8211;let&#8217;s get out our pitchforks!</p>
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		<title>By: phoenix1920</title>
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		<dc:creator>phoenix1920</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 16:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand the sentiment about don&#039;t plan for divorce based on the comparison do what you do in business.  Even in business, if you have a partnership with somebody who is not your marital  partner as well, it would be ridiculous to not have a partnership agreement where you agree to the distribution of assets/debt if one partner wants out of the partnership as time goes on.  Rarely in partnerships (business or martial) do both partners provide the same in terms of both time and capital.

As for the comment about keeping up skills and you rolling your eyes at the comment, it seems you&#039;ve been taking that advice to heart, albeit for different stated reasons. I generally advice spouses to keep up skills, etc, in case things don&#039;t work out according to your plan.  It may sound like I mean divorce, but personally, I can&#039;t even contemplate the other D word of my spouse or children.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand the sentiment about don&#8217;t plan for divorce based on the comparison do what you do in business.  Even in business, if you have a partnership with somebody who is not your marital  partner as well, it would be ridiculous to not have a partnership agreement where you agree to the distribution of assets/debt if one partner wants out of the partnership as time goes on.  Rarely in partnerships (business or martial) do both partners provide the same in terms of both time and capital.</p>
<p>As for the comment about keeping up skills and you rolling your eyes at the comment, it seems you&#8217;ve been taking that advice to heart, albeit for different stated reasons. I generally advice spouses to keep up skills, etc, in case things don&#8217;t work out according to your plan.  It may sound like I mean divorce, but personally, I can&#8217;t even contemplate the other D word of my spouse or children.</p>
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		<title>By: Jen from Boston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jen from Boston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 16:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I believe if you were married for a minimum amount of time, e.g., 10 years, you can claim Social Security benefits on your former spouse&#039;s earnings, even if you divorced.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I believe if you were married for a minimum amount of time, e.g., 10 years, you can claim Social Security benefits on your former spouse&#8217;s earnings, even if you divorced.</p>
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		<title>By: Ash (in US)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ash (in US)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 15:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thought he was out this week. ... Ellen, one of the elves, is doing the monitoring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thought he was out this week. &#8230; Ellen, one of the elves, is doing the monitoring.</p>
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		<title>By: Fredrik &#124; internetarbete</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fredrik &#124; internetarbete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 14:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello nice post. I guess as am living in a single houshold and still not that old, I havent really bothered about getting any insurance other then a &quot;home insurance&quot;. 

But in Sweden we have something called &quot;inkomstförsäkring&quot; its an income insurance, so that you can keep more of your salary should you lose your job. It&#039;s a rather popular insurance in Sweden at the moment. But I am not really sure if its worth the extra money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello nice post. I guess as am living in a single houshold and still not that old, I havent really bothered about getting any insurance other then a &#8220;home insurance&#8221;. </p>
<p>But in Sweden we have something called &#8220;inkomstförsäkring&#8221; its an income insurance, so that you can keep more of your salary should you lose your job. It&#8217;s a rather popular insurance in Sweden at the moment. But I am not really sure if its worth the extra money.</p>
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		<title>By: partgypsy</title>
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		<dc:creator>partgypsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 14:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There isn&#039;t divorce insurance, but there are ways to lessen the risk. Individuals who are older, more educated, and financially secure, are less likely get divorced. Number one reason cited for divorce: financial strife. Couples without children are more likely to get divorced (not arguing that people should have kids to stay married, just point it out). People who marry for the first time have a 40% chance of ending in divorce, while 60 to 67 percent of second marriages fail, and 70 to 73 percent of third marriages fail. Marriage insurance. Get to know your partner&#039;s money personality BEFORE you get married, work together to gain financial security for the household, and keep the communication lines open. 
This article was good if only for the sense it was a good conversation starter with my husband, to talk about what we wanted for the future and how we each figured in that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There isn&#8217;t divorce insurance, but there are ways to lessen the risk. Individuals who are older, more educated, and financially secure, are less likely get divorced. Number one reason cited for divorce: financial strife. Couples without children are more likely to get divorced (not arguing that people should have kids to stay married, just point it out). People who marry for the first time have a 40% chance of ending in divorce, while 60 to 67 percent of second marriages fail, and 70 to 73 percent of third marriages fail. Marriage insurance. Get to know your partner&#8217;s money personality BEFORE you get married, work together to gain financial security for the household, and keep the communication lines open.<br />
This article was good if only for the sense it was a good conversation starter with my husband, to talk about what we wanted for the future and how we each figured in that.</p>
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		<title>By: partgypsy</title>
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		<dc:creator>partgypsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 14:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, they should take Elizabeth Taylor out of the stats, she is skewing the results.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, they should take Elizabeth Taylor out of the stats, she is skewing the results.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 12:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was the one who wrote the original comment about keeping your skills up to date and nowhere in there did I bash the SAHM&#039;s choice. All I said is that there&#039;s a hidden cost that should be at least acknowledged. All investments have risks and to some that&#039;s worth it. Not to me, but there was absolutely no judgment in it for other people&#039;s lifestyles, since it&#039;s not my problem if they end up in a bad situation.

Side note: when something innocuous makes me feel very strongly, I take a look at what it&#039;s triggering emotionally in me and usually it&#039;s fear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was the one who wrote the original comment about keeping your skills up to date and nowhere in there did I bash the SAHM&#8217;s choice. All I said is that there&#8217;s a hidden cost that should be at least acknowledged. All investments have risks and to some that&#8217;s worth it. Not to me, but there was absolutely no judgment in it for other people&#8217;s lifestyles, since it&#8217;s not my problem if they end up in a bad situation.</p>
<p>Side note: when something innocuous makes me feel very strongly, I take a look at what it&#8217;s triggering emotionally in me and usually it&#8217;s fear.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 11:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot; People with genetic disorders are likely to pass them on to their kids, should they too be admonished for having children too?&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Of course not.  Genetic science has advanced to the state where we can now detect those genetic markers in the womb early enough where abortion is still an option.

But if tests show that a woman is carrying a 6-week old embryo with cerebral palsy, and she chooses to carry it to term, should society be on the hook financially to provide care for that individual for their entire life?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8221; People with genetic disorders are likely to pass them on to their kids, should they too be admonished for having children too?&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Of course not.  Genetic science has advanced to the state where we can now detect those genetic markers in the womb early enough where abortion is still an option.</p>
<p>But if tests show that a woman is carrying a 6-week old embryo with cerebral palsy, and she chooses to carry it to term, should society be on the hook financially to provide care for that individual for their entire life?</p>
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		<title>By: Ellen K.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ellen K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 11:29:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sarah, I think your writing shows promise, but you need to be much more attentive to word choice. In both of your recent articles, your argument was weakened by an offhand or flippant comment that irritated a significant number of readers. Last week it was the &quot;gift&quot; of public schools. Here you &quot;rolled your eyes&quot; about a reader&#039;s comment (note: don&#039;t make fun of individual readers) but then spend the rest of the article making a similar argument. A good editor -- like J.D. in the old days -- would have flagged these instances right away and asked you for clarification or advised you to delete them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sarah, I think your writing shows promise, but you need to be much more attentive to word choice. In both of your recent articles, your argument was weakened by an offhand or flippant comment that irritated a significant number of readers. Last week it was the &#8220;gift&#8221; of public schools. Here you &#8220;rolled your eyes&#8221; about a reader&#8217;s comment (note: don&#8217;t make fun of individual readers) but then spend the rest of the article making a similar argument. A good editor &#8212; like J.D. in the old days &#8212; would have flagged these instances right away and asked you for clarification or advised you to delete them.</p>
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		<title>By: Ellen K.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ellen K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 11:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a SAHM with twin preschoolers and a freelance business. I would also add that any person who is staying home to raise children should have her or his own IRA or Roth IRA for individual retirement savings. Even if you can only contribute the minimum each month, this should be a *nonnegotiable* part of the family budget. Consider it a (very paltry) salary or benefits package. You&#039;ve more than earned it.

Recommended reading: Elizabeth Warren&#039;s &quot;The Two Income Trap&quot;, &quot;Ann Crittenden&#039;s &quot;The Price of Motherhood.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a SAHM with twin preschoolers and a freelance business. I would also add that any person who is staying home to raise children should have her or his own IRA or Roth IRA for individual retirement savings. Even if you can only contribute the minimum each month, this should be a *nonnegotiable* part of the family budget. Consider it a (very paltry) salary or benefits package. You&#8217;ve more than earned it.</p>
<p>Recommended reading: Elizabeth Warren&#8217;s &#8220;The Two Income Trap&#8221;, &#8220;Ann Crittenden&#8217;s &#8220;The Price of Motherhood.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 10:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JD:  It would be nice to hear what you think of both the post and comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JD:  It would be nice to hear what you think of both the post and comments.</p>
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		<title>By: Tarun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tarun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 08:34:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not able to understand why so many people here are against Kevin&#039;s Views. He is making the right point that we should condone irresponsible behaviour, whether its from a single mother or an absentee dad who shirks his duties. By Condoning or in other words, expressing disapproval for these choices, societies develop the idea of what&#039;s wrong and what&#039;s right. And, this idea of right and wrong shapes a civilization.
These things need to be taught to young ones so that they make right choices and do not end up miserable in their lives.
Wake-up People, Kevin had the guts to voice reasonable concerns. We should not hate him for this.

Regards,
Tarun Sikri
New Delhi, India</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not able to understand why so many people here are against Kevin&#8217;s Views. He is making the right point that we should condone irresponsible behaviour, whether its from a single mother or an absentee dad who shirks his duties. By Condoning or in other words, expressing disapproval for these choices, societies develop the idea of what&#8217;s wrong and what&#8217;s right. And, this idea of right and wrong shapes a civilization.<br />
These things need to be taught to young ones so that they make right choices and do not end up miserable in their lives.<br />
Wake-up People, Kevin had the guts to voice reasonable concerns. We should not hate him for this.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Tarun Sikri<br />
New Delhi, India</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 08:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It really depends on the country.  Some prenups protect assets you already have and future assets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It really depends on the country.  Some prenups protect assets you already have and future assets.</p>
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		<title>By: Barb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 04:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are lots of ways to be a sah spouse (parent or not) and protect yourself. I was a stay at home spouse even after my children were gone. I did not work. I had a roth in my own name, everything we purchased was held jointly (with rights of survivorship). I also developed marketable skills through parenthood and volunteering. Being a SAH, even over the long term, does not rende ryou a second class citizen, nor does it make you helpless. Just sayin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are lots of ways to be a sah spouse (parent or not) and protect yourself. I was a stay at home spouse even after my children were gone. I did not work. I had a roth in my own name, everything we purchased was held jointly (with rights of survivorship). I also developed marketable skills through parenthood and volunteering. Being a SAH, even over the long term, does not rende ryou a second class citizen, nor does it make you helpless. Just sayin</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 04:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure if preparing ones finances for possible divorce is good advice. I mean, obviously it&#039;s important to be prepared financially but I think it would be counterproductive to think about preparing for a possible divorce while going through your finances. Not sure that came across as I wanted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure if preparing ones finances for possible divorce is good advice. I mean, obviously it&#8217;s important to be prepared financially but I think it would be counterproductive to think about preparing for a possible divorce while going through your finances. Not sure that came across as I wanted.</p>
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