On my way home from selling some magazines at Powell’s, I happened upon a whole street’s worth of free piles. First one, then another, then another. The second one was the jackpot, though. I saw the chair, a tall swiveling kitchen chair; it was just what I’ve been looking for, meant for my youngest son. He loves to swivel and has been asking me for a chair like that. “We’ll keep our eyes out!” I’ve said, meaning exactly this.
I began the delicate process of affixing it to my bike (thankfully achievable, as I had no children with me and the long-tail cargo bike) and, as I tightened the straps, a couple of guys pulled up to load the couch a few feet away. “Great find on the chair!” one of them said. “I wanted it. But you earned it by coming with your bike.” He paused, then launching into a rave about the wonders of free piles, and we compared housefuls of free stuff.
“But that’s not the only reason to do it,” he said. “Getting free stuff means creating less demand for crappy furniture.”
“Totally!” I said, riding away with my chair and my over-the-top Portlandia score — an Oregon Kickball Club jersey — and I contemplated.
Having demand for crappy furniture: Isn’t that patriotic?
Last Sunday, I listened to a radio show which was mostly concerned with the financial crisis, and whether “we get the banks we deserve.” One of the theories was that the crisis occurred not because of a problem in the housing market but because we just wanted to buy so much stuff. Bethany MacLean, author of a book called All the Devils Are Here, said, “One of the great myths about the crisis is that it was a [crisis] of homeownership,” Maclean said. “Everybody says this is what happens when you put people into homes and they can’t afford to pay them back. This was never about homeownership. Most risky loans that were made were so-called cash-out refinancing so the people could withdraw equity from their homes in order to spend it.”
I found myself remembering the times presidents (especially George W. Bush, but this is definitely a bi-partisan campaign) have encouraged us to go out and shop to stimulate the economy. A phenomenon occurred here in Portland, Oregon, the hometown to which I moved back shortly after 9/11: organized flights sent to New York City to shop. They were called “Flights to Freedom” and the message since then has been very much, “it’s patriotic to consume.”
But here was MacLean, saying that it’s our fault that the banking crisis occurred, and not for any other reason than we wanted to buy more stuff. Using that logic, patriotic consumption could be blamed for the crash in our economy and the dip in our GDP. But even typing this statement has me feeling radical and daring. How could it be?
Consumerism has longer-term costs
It’s easy to see what the benefits are of buying things, of taking part in what some call the “cult of growth”: as more people buy things, GDP increases, businesses get all hot and heavy about the future, they borrow money to make new factories and employ new people to make more things to buy. Then those people have money to buy more things. Then Emma, who owns a house, sees all the great things Lauren has bought with her new job, and she goes out and applies for a credit card (that she can get because of the equity in her home) so she can buy things. And the business owners jump up and down, clapping their hands in glee, while the credit card issuer’s CEO pays cash for a new top-of-the-line luxury sedan. And the cycle continues.
But don’t these things come with costs? Of course they do, but we’re often conditioned to ignore the systemic costs of growth. When we think of our economy growing, we don’t typically ask, “but how much carbon will be emitted as those people go to those new jobs and drive to those new shopping malls and how much will that cost us?” When we think of a new housing development, while we may mourn the pretty, wild spaces that are being paved over and the developers may have to pay to have the little red-tailed frogs moved to another wetland, we still do not ask if the disruption to the ecosystems will cost us money in two or three decades. We think of the immediate costs and benefits and we abstractly mourn the immediate loss of pretty, old buildings and swampland. But we don’t look very far down the road.
And consumerism has its personal costs, too.
Consumerism has been called an addiction, one that “saps our financial resources, well-being, and hope.” In my home, the years we have been more consumptive than creative; when I have spent more of my time acquiring things than making them, and when I have made and spent the most disposable income on stuff; are the ones I regret most. My husband and I still argue over the money spent on our wedding and honeymoon, money we really shouldn’t have spent, and we’ve talked here before about how arguments over money break up a lot of marriages.
That’s really only a start. In my family, buying stuff doesn’t only lead to arguments over money, but arguments over stuff. We argue a lot about how to store our stuff, who has too much stuff, whether we should throw stuff away, whose fault it was stuff was ruined/stolen/lost, and most importantly, what the purchases say about our values. So far, our marriage has managed to stay together, but I know plenty of families who break up largely because of differing consumer values; this has a huge cost on the system, from the environmental costs of keeping two separate households, to the increased likelihood the family members (especially the mother and children) will end up in poverty and creating a drain on the system, to the costs of the judicial system to deal with all those divorces.
The more we want, the more hours we must work, taking time away from family and decreasing both well-being and health. I’m sure you could work with me to enumerate the personal costs of consumerism. They’re almost unlimited.
This chair is a huge deal. Do I dare sit in it?
When I think about it back at home, this chair — and the others at my kitchen table — are pretty radical. I’m rejecting the idea that I must buy a new chair from IKEA or a furniture store, one that’s made in a factory by workers who earn a wage (living or no), and purchased at a retail store whose workers are also paid. I brought it home on my bike, oil companies and American car manufacturers be damned. I did not create any new demand for new things.
But I saved an inestimable amount of future costs, from the disposal of the old chair to the environmental costs of manufacturing and shipping, to the health costs of workers who manufacture and ship these products, right down to my own feelings of well-being and not-argument. I don’t have to ask my husband for money to buy a new chair; we won’t argue about money, today.
I set my five-year-old up in “his” “new” chair, and ask him what he thinks, and as the smile breaks over his face, I think, “I’m raising a radical kid. Poor thing,” and I have to admit I’m pretty proud of his delight.
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Not that I ever felt that I was in the minority here but I am glad to see that you found the message to shop as preposterous as I did. I mean really how the hell can you say that it is Patriotic?
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It cracks me up because almost everything “patriotic” for sale in NYC is made in China!
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Nice article. And the chair sounds cool!
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If you’re looking for parties to blame for the flame-out of the economy, there’s a line out the door of worthy candidates. But there is no question that our consumptive ways, encouraged by Big Business, Big Government and Big Money carry a healthy portion of that load.
Fortunately, or unfortunately, we are mending our borrowing ways. Here’s a chart by the New York Federal Reserve showing the decline of personal debt: http://bit.ly/DebtDrop
I say fortunately or unfortunately because, exactly like you said, slow growth has caused employment to take longer than ever before to recover from the preceding recession, as a great visual from Calculated Risk shows: http://bit.ly/CRBchart
The evidence, therefore, suggests that the whole country feels like you do.
Most medicine entails short term pain to bring long term gain. We can only hope that’s the reason this economic recovery is faltering as it is.
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Over the years, we’ve trash picked plenty of furniture items. And we’ve been proud of them and the money we’ve saved. To me, I’m not sure I see much moral difference in acquiring stuff for free or if I’d paid for it second hand. It’s all stuff and falls under the larger umbrella of consumerism, doesn’t it? Certainly, all my five year old would know is that he got the chair he’d been wanting.
Also, you’re still fighting about wedding and honeymoon costs? Yikes! Maybe you should put that money you saved on the chair towards marriage counselling.
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Perhaps it’s selfish of me, but I’ve always been more concerned about my own and my family’s economics, versus the economics of the country or the world. I figure that I can influence things best by not buying the crappy new furniture, or the ill-made McMansion, or the clothes that fall apart about the time they’re no longer stylish.
For the past 20 years, I’ve gotten most of our clothing, housewares, and furniture at thrift stores, garage sales, and trash piles. We bought an older home for 2/3 of the cost of a similar new one. I’ve raised frugal kids who don’t feel the need for the latest electronics or the trendiest clothes. Although my focus was entirely on our personal economics, we’ve also done our small bit for the environment, as the small amount of trash in our bin every week can testify.
I trash-picked vicariously through the article this morning. My heart began pounding when she spotted the chair. Would someone grab it first? Once she inspected it, would she find it was broken beyond repair? I guess I’m well and truly hooked on the alternative consumer culture.
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I absolutely loved this article.
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Wow, this eerily ties in to our deliberately controversial post today on whether or not GDP should be a measure of success.
However, I’d like to point out that money is fungible. You’ll be spending the money you didn’t spend on the chair on organic tomatoes or something and thus do your part buying other goods and services with the money you saved.
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Good point! That shift in perspective is a good way to guide my spending. I need to choose wisely every time I spend my money. I need to make sure that what I am buying fits in the framework of how I want to live my life and align with my values. I already do that but I slip up every once in a while and this idea should help me bring it into sharper focus.
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I haven’t read the GDP post, but I agree that any economic system that equally weights ‘units of value’ of (for example) tobacco grown, cigarettes bought, and growth in medical treatments for lung cancer…is monumentally screwed up IMO. Our whole economic system is screwed up due to that, and due to the difficulty of correctly valuing externalities and long-term values or costs, among many other problems.
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That’s a really great point! We’d love it if you’d come join our discussion.
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or maybe on chair refinishing – either supplies, parts, or someone else’s labor.
We do save *some* of what we don’t spend on new stuff, though. And theoretically our bank then invests it in the community somewhere.
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Cheap semi-disposable consumer junk isn’t cheap in the long run.
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Just be careful what you pick out of the trash – the college neighborhoods around here have a huge problem with bedbugs because of mattresses and couches left outside too long before being taken. Otherwise, yes, always look for reused/recycled first.
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Laura, it’s funny, every once in a while I hear a tale of bed bugs infesting someone’s home and I break out in sweats and imagine how everything I see on the corner is swarming. But to date over more than a decade (maybe because I rarely take home upholstered items and never mattresses) I’ve managed to fill my dining room and living room with free pile items and never yet experienced a bug. So I’ve decided to stop worrying. And keep staying away from free mattresses and pillows!
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My cousin owns a company that finds bedbugs for people with a bedbug sniffing dog. She says that the biggest bedbug carrier is used books!
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As a used-book glutton, that may be the single most frightening sentence I’ve read all year.
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Just moderate heat will kill bedbugs. 113 degrees takes 8 hours, 118 degrees takes 90 minutes, and 122 degrees is instantaneous. So, put those books in the front of your car on a hot summer day while you’re at work/shopping/whatever (maybe even the dash, but be careful it doesn’t get TOO hot). For mattresses…I dunno…wrap them in black garbage bags and sit outside on a hot summer day? Freezing can work too, I don’t have the exact temps, but 0 degrees Fahrenheit should do the trick.
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Used to do more trash picking around the end of the school year in college – my BF still uses a desktop computer he found on top of a dumpster (with the original HDD intact!) 2+ years later.
As I contemplate an Ikea purchase for new living room furniture (the stuff we have is literally older than myself and, while beloved, becoming quite uncomfortable to sit on), I have to admit that I wish it were easier to get gently used furniture, similar to the gently used car sales model. But what are the chances of finding a good, COMFORTABLE, 3 piece set of furniture that will fit in my tiny apartment, at a thrift store? Probably not good. Not to mention the cost of getting it home and up to a 3rd floor.
Free piles and thrift stores are good for one off pieces (think college days or the chair the post author mentioned – great!) but when you’re graduating to semi-coordinated, higher quality goods… it’s not as easy anymore.
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You could try a consignment store- they’re going to be more expensive than a thrift store, but they typically carry much nicer stuff. Then there’s always your local Craigslist…
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I’ve never had much luck in consignment stores – the prices are too high. Don’t know if that’s particular to the consignment stores I’ve tried. If I’m going second hand, I’d rather scour yard sales, thrift shops, and Craig’s List – the quality is not always good (you have to sift through a lot of junky stuff), but when it is, I’ve found the price to be much better than consignment shops.
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thumbs up for craigslist. I bet most areas get dozens of couches a day posted on there.
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While I don’t have a problem with Craigslist itself, it becomes problematic when you are trying to please 2 picky people when it comes to the way a couch feels. I can’t easily go to every person’s house that lists and sit on their couch to see if it’s something I actually want to buy… and when you’re talking about a couch+chair+ottoman combination, it gets trickier. Meanwhile, I basically can’t sit on the furniture we have. So time isn’t always on your side, either.
Thrift/consignment/Craigslist… awesome for some things… not always an option though!
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I recently bought a loveseat and matching couch at a Habitat re-sale store. I paid about 150 and another 60 or so to a couple of young men I knew with trucks to move it for me. The habitat re/store had much, much nicer stuff than my local thrift stores and gave me an answer I could trust re:bedbugs. The furniture is certainly sturdier than ikea furniture — i have had plenty of Ikea furniture!– as well.
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Another option, if you don’t find any used furniture by the time you’re ready for it, is Home Reserve. It’s an online company (I can’t remember how I found it, but I got a loveseat and chair from them about 3 1/2 years ago). If you have kids or animals that are hard on furniture, this is the place to get it because you can take the covers off and wash them if Junior pukes on em, or Fluffy mistakes the arm of the chair for her chew toy you can replace the foam. Also, if you get tired of that color or that style, the furniture can be converted. It’s also shipped in boxes that can be easily carried up stairs and through doorways, and the furniture can be broken down if you need to move. Best of all, the furniture is very very low price. It’s the next best thing, in my opinion, to buying used and in some cases it could even be cheaper. Keep in mind, if you’re hoping to find Pottery Barn or Ethan Allen kinda stuff, you won’t like this at all, but if you’re practical this is a great solution. When you first get the furniture the foam is kinda stiff, so it doesn’t seem comfortable, but after a couple weeks it softens up and is comfortable (at least to me). I know I sound like I work for them or something, but I promise I don’t. I just don’t like that everything costs so much money so when I find something that is reasonable, I like to tell people about it.
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Somehow the photo got lost but here is my post of a wood headboard that I found on bulk trash day and refurnished and repurposed. The project cost $0 dollars although my husband did use gas to pick it up. http://adventures-of-sam.blogspot.com/2012/08/headboard-project.html
I can tell you that I was raised by hippie parents and one of our favorite summer activities, as kids, was going to the dump where we would find furniture for our summer cabin and for fun too.
I can’t tell you that as an adult I’ve rejected consumer ways, but I can still spy a great free find and when we have stuff we are getting rid of we try to give it away via the curb method or freecycle.
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For some reason I can’t see the photo. I get the little red X in the corner.
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Yeah the photo has disappeared from my blog, I’ve get to add it again when I get home.
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Be careful trash picking. My parents live in Michigan where there is a $.10 bottle deposit, so they pick up cans and bottles to return. One day my Mom saw some bottles/cans in a garbage bag so she reached in barehanded. She got pricked by a used needle/syringe.
Because I have a Masters in Public Health and worked as an epidemiologist (before quitting to be a SAHM), she called me at my desk at work. She was hysterical.
She was laid off from work at the time and so was my dad, so they had no health insurance. I directed her to the city health department. She had to have HIV, HBV, HCV, syphillis tests, get her first HBV vaccine (and then she completed the series of 3 shots), a tetanus shot and then repeat all that bloodwork after 6 months because antibodies can take that long to show up.
That cost her $500.
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Really glad your mom was okay!
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And in some areas recycling belongs to the City when it is put out at the curb.
http://adventures-of-sam.blogspot.com/2012/08/recycling-bandits.html
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I pick also, and don’t like a house full of stuff. If I have plenty of cash and want to support the local economy I patronize local farmer’s markets and mom and pop restaurants. After all, you have to eat!
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I envy you that you live in a place where people so casually discard of useable items. I am in a more rural area, and in my opinion, by the time the clothes and household items hit the shelves of the few second hand stores we have they are pretty much spent. I have not had much luck finding things when thrifting(I’m picky though, I don’t need a houseful of free or cheap second hand things – it’s all just stuff and clutter at the end of the day).
Thought for pondering/debate – while I love the buy it used idea, given my experience, I would propose that that’s really only possible because you’re depending on someone else to buy this stuff in the first place. You’re depending on the current consumerism society to make those purchases and then discard them so you can acquire your own house worth of stuff. And though you might not pay full price (or any price) for the items, you’re still consuming at a high rate if you’re constantly on the hunt for things for your house/life. (note: I don’t have kids. So I don’t exactly have a constant need for things to keep up with growing little people. That’s a completely different scenario I’d imagine.)
There was a blog I used to read about non-consuming, Yes she pretty much solely shops second hand (and thus she’s not a typical american consumer), and she proudly talks about how frugal she is (look what I got for so little!) which is awesome, but on the other hand, I quickly noticed her posts were either “look what I purchased or got for free!” interspersed with “I”m having another garage sale to try and purge the house of all the stuff that’s cluttering it up”.
I would put forth that even second hand consuming can be it’s own bad cycle and perhaps have some of the same detrimental effects on your life as just consuming stuff new.
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All you have to do is watch an episode of one of those hoarding shows to see the truth in this comment. So many of them justify their hoarding/stuff collecting because they got items for free or almost free. Then their house literally piles up with these free/found items.
Whether you’re buying firsthand or secondhand or zillionthhand… you’re still practicing consumerism by needing to acquire STUFF!
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It depends what you are getting, and why, doesn’t it? You’re assuming that anything that is available secondhand is available because someone is upscaling to something they don’t need.
I’ve trash-picked, secondhanded, and picked up at auction all of my kitchen chairs for 20 years. Some of the secondhand stuff was junky (cloth-covered chair I got out of the library discards after it had been used 20 years, and then passed on to someone else later), some broke, and right now we’re struggling with our chairs because we moved into a smaller house and thus the larger captain’s chairs I bought at auction and my mom refinished don’t fit in our eat-in kitchen.
If you live in a rural area, and want to look for decent stuff secondhand, try auctions, either on-site or in an auction center. You’ll see a lot of stuff being gotten rid of because someone has passed or is moving into a nursing home, and it duplicates the necessities their kids already own, as well as stuff being sold because “we have had it for years and I’m just sick of it.”
Yes, you do get better junkpicking and secondhand from communities where there’s a lot of consumerism, but even in less-consumer areas, there’s a certain amount of churn even just in extras (for instance, someone gets rid of a set of 2 curtains because the third was damaged, and they need 3, or gets rid of the decorations from a party, old canning jars because they don’t have time to can anymore, etc.).
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I was thinking the same.
I grew up in a household that loved clutter (if did not outright hoard). As a result, I’ve become cautious about the things I bring into my own home. I won’t pick up free/cheap stuff just because it’s there and I *might* use it – or just because I want it. That stuff adds up and transforms into clutter, and becomes costly in its own right in terms of my time, mental health, and modest living space (no way could I fit a random swivel chair into my 700 sq. ft. home, no matter how much my son might want one!).
So I use the same purchasing wait list for second-hand items that I use for first-hand consumer goods, asking myself questions like, “Do I need it now? Can I make do without it? Is this a real need, or a want? How much of my time will it take to get this into clean & usable condition?” More often than not, I find that I can live without that cool retro bakelite clock, or that chair that will need repair, re-finishing & re-upholstering.
(Now, I know people who pick through thrift stores and trash piles looking for antiques & vintage items to resell, and a few who even profit on it. More power to them! But even so, their side job comes at a price: houses that are cluttered (and stinky! sorry!), higher living costs/extra storage costs due to the need for more space, and worst, huge time investments for unpredictable returns… For me, these costs would not be worth it!)
You’ve also made a great point about second-hand purchasing/trash-picking contributing, in its way, to the cycle of consumerism. Is it really less “consumerist” to acquire stuff for free/cheap? You’re still getting a tremendous high off what boils down to materialism, and it shows.
And what happens when the good times stop rolling, I wonder? When the only stuff left on the curbside is damaged beyond repair, or the Ikea crap we so denigrate? When nobody – nobody! – puts out good-quality wood furniture anymore, because it’s all long gone? I think we need to consider that long-term scenario as older generations fade away and domestic manufacturing goes extinct.
As it is, compared to even five years ago, I no longer find much “good stuff” at my thrifting haunts. I’m still an avid thrifter, and I buy second-hand more often than first-hand. But lately I’ve started to rethink these consumerist issues, and to contribute more to my local economy. I am trying to buy more, but still selective, things that were made locally, or at least in the US; and preferably, that were handmade. In my own consumerist way, I like knowing that buying this knitted sweater or that piece of pottery – or whatever – supports real people – my fellow townsfolk, my neighbors, my friends. It curbs my spending and clutter-collecting by forcing me to make careful decisions that fall within my budget. (It’s also a great way to network socially & professionally, since I myself have a handmade business.)
Just food for thought.
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it really requires being comfortable with some empty spaces – there’s a difference between picking up a chair because you can imagine someone really liking it, and Sarah’s telling her little boy “if you really want a swivel chair, we’ll watch out for one”. The difference is that there was an empty space in their house where a swivel chair would fit.
Using the criteria you’d use on a new purchase is a great way to make those spaces happen.
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I have a friend who is a sociology professor and author of the book and blog “Empire of Scrounge” about the joys of dumpster diving and the rebelling against our throwaway society. He has outfitted his own home and closet with his finds and donates other stuff to a local charity and homeless shelter.
He inspired me to do the same and I have to say it’s pretty fun.
http://empireofscrounge.blogspot.com
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It helps to come from generationally thrifty families, too. I have three chairs that belonged to my great-great-grandmother that we still use and cherish, and various other things from great-grandparents, grandparents, and parents on both sides of our family. We value the knowledge that these items have been cared for by family hands, and the stories that have come with them. That being said, they are also a lot sturdier than many newer things.
My daughter recently took my childhood dresser off to college (after painting it red and gold). The only money she spent for storage and self-expression was for paint. And I got rid of a dresser that I never liked, even as a 7-year-old. Winning all around!
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Same here, I have a beautiful set of end tables that came from my grandfather’s executive office when he retired. My grandparents had them in their home for many years and then passed them on to me.
He claims they told him he could have the furniture from his executive suite. Hard wood with leather tops, I don’t know how much you would pay for something like them now.
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I loved this article. Yea Sarah, you’re raising radical kids – hopefully they won’t catch on till their too old to know any ‘better’. And hopefully you guys will come to a reckoning (setttling of accounts)on all the past financial baggage so you can move forward as a family. Good luck!
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Loved the article as well! We (Americans) have become a nation of consumers, but we’ve stopped producing!
I too think it is insane that we see GDP as a measure of sucess. I think a balanced budget and balanced economy is the standard to achieve. I know that our gov knows this, but all they see America as is a chess piece in the world games, and our power over all others is pinnacle.
One of the causes for why we are a nation of consumers is because things are no longer made with quality in mind. A sad, sad thing. It’s hard enough tryihg to find wood furniture anymore…just PDF coated in plastic.
Gone are the days of furnishings and tools and clothing and kitchen wares being lovingly cared for, saved, and passed down. Now we refurnish on a cycle, or everytime we move.
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Lovely. Raising kids with an awareness of the total cost of consumption is so important in this world today. As a society, we have lost the ability to distinguish (or care!) between a “need” and a “want”, and there are so many people who cannot or will not attempt the simplest repairs to salvage something that is already in their home or closet. I teach sewing, and had a wonderful young student who was able to repair her own snowsuit last winter because of taking sewing lessons and having a sewing machine available. Wonderful life lesson, right? Thanks for the post!
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“Free piles?” Consumptive behavior?”
Call the doctor!
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Very good points, especially about the equity-sucking home refis that fueled the bonfire. But it was Alan Greenspan’s job to keep all this under control by limiting the supply of money, and he did not do it. (There were those who saw this at the time, including the Economist editors who constantly nagged on the topic.) Mr. Bernanke is worse. All the “causes” we read about are actually effects of that prior cause — too much money looking for bad ways to get spent. Had the money supply been under proper control for the last twenty years, we might have avoided the Dotcom bust, the telecoms bust, the housing bust, and next on your tv — the government bust, Greece/California style.
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You have a good point. A lot of these busts have occurred due to people looking for places to stash money – not all of them, it turns out have been good places. Interestingly, not all of the money being invested in the American stock market (and then the housing market) is American money, however. At least some of it is foreign money that has been invested here thinking that the American market is safe.
I agree completely that a lot of this mess is due to Greenspan’s policies (and that the Fed now is just as bad, if not worse). However, human society has had booms and busts at least since the Tulip Craze of Rembrandt’s day. Unfortunately, it’s probably not ever going to go away completely.
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Our economy is certainly one driven by consumer spending. That is why we are encouraged to go out there and spend, spend spend! Even cutting tax rates isn’t meant to help you get by, it’s meant to help you spend.
I remember listening to Presidents talking about getting a tax cut and how we should go out and spend that money. Why not save it? Why not invest it and have it grow into more money?
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If you’re saving at a bank, that bank is lending your money to people who want to buy something.
If you invest it, you’re likely giving it to companies who make products for people to buy.
There is still consumerism involved any way you slice it.
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All purchases are not consumerism.
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Then who decides what consumerism and what’s not? How can one tell? Is buying a house that’s too big consumerism? Who determines its too big?
Almost everything is consumerism IMHO.
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Actually, Old Guy is correct. Not all purchases are defined as “consumerism”. And the act of consuming does not mean you are participating in consumerism at the moment.
Consumerism is the ideology or justification of the purchase…hence the “ism”. The World English Dictionary defines consumerism:
World English Dictionary
consumerism (kənˈsjuːməˌrɪzəm)
— n
1. protection of the interests of consumers
2. advocacy of a high rate of consumption and spending as a basis for a sound economy
Consumerism promotes over-consumption.
If you buy a new cellphone because your older one is not functional, it most likely is not consumerism.
If you buy a new cellphone because you like it, that’s probably not consumerism.
If you buy a new cellphone with the intent to update it when the new version comes out (even if that’s just a few months away) then you are basing your consumption of goods on the whims of the market. You are actively engaging in the consumerist economy.
Buying stuff you like is not always consumerism. But if you mindlessly update things because a newer one is available on the market, and THAT’S the main drive of the purchase, then yes, that is consumerism. How many times do you hear people talk about updating their items before the new version is even revealed, or before they know anything about it? What then are they basing their desire for the item on, if not for the fact that it’s merely available?
Call it smug, but when I like something, I tend to still like it even if something “better” comes along. By the time I stop liking it, or it stops working, something better than the original “better” is out by that time anyway.
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I think there’s a problem if too much pressure is put on people by the government to go out and spend their money on things that they may or may not want or need, rather than encouraging the population to make responsible choices for their own lives.
At the same time, there’s plenty of onus on the consumer him or herself. I mean we have to be critical of the messages we get from our government, and quite frankly if we just follow what our governments say to do blindly and without critical thought we deserve what we get.
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I always feel conflicted when a post has a great message yet their advertisements send the opposite message. So much for being truly radical…
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Awesome post, Sarah. The best I’ve seen on GRS in awhile. Keep it coming from this one, JD!
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I’m currently reading a book called “In Cheap we Trust”. It explores the myth of American frugality, as well as the myth that consumption is the driver of the economy. Spoiler: that idea only really took off after WWII.
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You know…for the past several months the immediate image that comes to mind when reading this blog and the comments is that classic South Park episode with the “smug cloud” .
Just sayin…….;-)
I could just be reading too much into the comments…it just seems that so many are just consumed with “out moralizing” everyone. And while I don’t doubt anyone’s good intentions (I mean that…I really don’t)….much of this “moralizing” is so misguided…for example…closed down sweatshops=increased child prostitution in many cases (Bangladesh, for example)
I have no problem with people living their lives in accordance with their values…I just a have problem at the constant insinuation that their choices are better and superior….this blog is really starting to smack of elitism at times, IMO
As a libertarian, I admit…most of the times I don’t have a clue about what is the right…what is noble……what is moral. With more reading and research on various issues…my moral compass gets shifted all the time (the sweatshops for example..used to be against…now not so much….yeh..in a perfect world, we wouldn’t have any..but we will NEVER live in a perfect world)
I guess what I am trying to express, is that whenever I come here lately, I feel like I am getting preached at in the Church of Political Correctness…kind of interesting to feel that way on a financial blog.
Oh well….going by most of the comments, I’m probably the only one that feels this way….maybe I’m too much of a “you ain’t the boss of me” type of person-LOL
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The problem is that most consumers are not living within their means. They are spending on credit, and I’m sure most of the GRS readers agree that “within” your means does not mean that you can merely cover the bills, it means you can cover the bills, while saving for retirement, and an emergency account, and pay for things like health insurance and life insurance.
It’s unbelievable that you rarely hear the gov push for saving in 401k, and just saving in general. They don’t say “spend spend spend…but only after you’ve saved up 6 months e-fund and contribute at least 10% to a retirement vehicle”. They don’t say that because they want your tax money now and fast, so they can meet their quotas and fund their over-promises…and at more sinister levels, to make them look as if they’ve improved our plight so they can be kept in power.
I’m amazed that we don’t (at least in FL) have a mandatory personal finance class for highschool, or as part of a Lib Arts degree. We have economics though, which teaches us how the gov manages money, which covers the importance of GDP and provides graph after graph of our steady incline. Not to get all conspiracy theories, but who sets the required classes for school districts? Local and state gov.
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I loved this comment. They teach Keynesian economics in all of our schools. It has taken over our economy (hence the boom/busts). It’s a spiraling effect because the universities (like Harvard) want to send their alums to high positions in government (like Bernanke). The government likes Keynesian economics because it allows them to manipulate markets in their favor (for votes). So, the people in government (whom we elect) then hire more Keynesians from these universities, providing the universities with more incentive to teach this nonsense.
Saving drives the economy, not spending. Saving provides capital for entrepreneurs to start new businesses. The sooner we figure this out, the better off we are when our country realizes it’s bankrupt.
Spending is unpatriotic, especially when we consumer foreign goods. How does providing profit for Chinese or Indian businesses help our country? Borrowing and spending are only good for the economy when they are used for capital investments in the pursuit of the creation of value (ie new wealth). That’s how we built this country. We borrowed to buy steel and oil, not vacations and cars.
Sorry for the tangential post. Couldn’t help myself.
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“much of this “moralizing” is so misguided…for example…closed down sweatshops=increased child prostitution in many cases”
This sounds like pretty awful logic on your part. I’m not 100% sure what you think your point is but it doesn’t seem like a good one at all.
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even though X may lead to Y in this case, one must also consider what life was like in parts of the world before such sweatshops existed, and what it would be like if those with power stopped taking advantage of relationships with corrupt governments and destroying the natural resources of countries where the sweatshops are located.. if the sweatshops could close entirely and natural resources were restored, how such children would live – as prostitutes or as children with a decent chance at overcoming systemic poverty? I’m not saying i have all the answers, but saying “sweatshops making less jobs => child prostitution,” though perhaps true, is such a microscopic view that it is taken out of context and somewhat misleading.
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I think this is a very interesting comment – that point out that every decision this global economy has far reaching and often unintended consequences. But I am really curious about the child prostitution claim. I’m really wondering if it really went up – or are more children pulled into it? And what is the solution then – are there just too many children born in poverty?
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Yeah, I’d like to see actual evidence about this too. All I can find is an opinion piece on the Cato institute titled ‘Child Labor or Child Prostitution?’ by Thomas DeGregori
Cato is a conservative think tank. They don’t cite any actual solid numbers or even evidence about child prostitution but just make an argument about protectionism.
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LMAO at Cato being a “conservative” think tank!!!
You DO realize that they endorse legalized abortion, gay marriage, drugs, and prostitution? They also endorse open borders and are critical of corporate welfare.
They are a Libertarian think tank……MASSIVE difference.
And no….didn’t know about their study. I have read several papers on this (there is also my personal experience…but people are always more impressed with “papers”)
There is some good info on Bleeding Heart Libertarians, though.
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OK so they’re libertarian. Big whoop-dee-do.
Fiscally conservative is what I was meaning.
Still theres no actual evidence nor data to support the idea. Just borderline fearmongering editorialization from a LIBERTARIAN think tank with an agenda.
I’m not saying its a lie, but when someone makes such sensationalist claims I’d really prefer to see real data not just claims or allegations.
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Jennifer, thanks for speaking up. I was floored by how much positive feedback this post is getting. I’ve been a consistent reader of GRS since its second year, and it’s a post like this that makes me feel like we’re just growing apart. On the other hand, there still are other GRS posts that speak to me, but alas not this one.
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News flash! Child prostitution is a form of child labor.
At any rate, I don’t know of any anti-child labor NGO that doesn’t also advocate (STRONGLY) real-world solutions to the kind of poverty that creates child labor. Solutions like: education, local food security, democracy, and jobs training & opportunities for adults. (After all, when employers can only employ adults, productivity increases thanks to superior adult skills & efficiency, profits rise, wages rise, and the now-empowered adult citizenry is in a better position to contribute to society – incl. by paying the taxes that build schools & hospitals for poor children.)
So, while it’s true enough that closing sweatshops WHILE DOING NOTHING ELSE TO ALLEVIATE POVERTY would lead to increased child prostitution, it’s untrue that closing sweatshops WHILE DOING NOTHING ELSE TO ALLEVIATE POVERTY is the only outcome, the only choice, the only goal. That logic is straight-up either/or fallacy.
But from a moral standpoint: yuck. I’ve heard racists use the same argument to rationalize slavery, that “Freed slaves were more violently oppressed immediately after emancipation!!” Well, yes and no. Yes, Lincoln’s government did not do enough to protect newly freed slaves. (Though it could have – for instance, by creating anti-racist laws and enforcing those laws; by creating economic and educational opportunities for ex-slaves.) But no, Lincoln’s failure to deliver does not make slavery “the lesser of two evils.”
And if that makes me a smug, PC, moralizing do-gooder, so be it!!
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Sometimes I feel a little lost too
For example, I own a cheap table and chair set from Ikea. Am I driving the consumerist machine. Hmmm. Does it help that I bought it used, not new? Does it help that I spent 1/2-1/3 as much as I would have on a nicer used table and chair set while I was in debt reduction mode? Should I have done away with the table and sat on the floor to eat instead? (And ask my guests to do the same — assuming it’s still okay to have guests when you’re paying off debt?)
It’s so hard to know what to do anymore.
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I agree with you, but I usually tend to just keep quiet (or hit “like” on comments such as this). Maybe other readers do the same.
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A thousand times like on this comment. I have felt exactly this way reading the posts and comments over the last few months and you have expressed it perfectly!
Many many thanks for your words.
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Haha I loved this story! Clever and added some information as well. I often find myself struggling between the consumerism argument and what I really want. Will my sole actions make any difference at all? I commend you for acting this way and being as proactive as possible, and it seems like your raising someone who will continue your thriftiness into the future.
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I’m a bit of a minimalist, plus I hate shopping in general so I own very little. Still, articles like this irritate me, I think because they’re often written by people whose livelihoods don’t depend on consumerism. It’s easy to tout the benefits of buying less if you’re a writer and your income comes from clicks. We use the phrase “consumerist economy” and gloss over the fact that there are real people behind that phrase with real jobs who need others to spend to survive.
Previously I worked for a newspaper. When housing and automotive (and local businesses) took a dive I was shown the door. No buying means no advertising which means layoffs. Now I work for a furniture retailer, and if too many people stop buying our products, I’m out of a job–bottom line. I don’t want a job that is so dependent on consumerism, but it took me over a year to find and I’m just grateful to have it. Another layoff would very likely mean having to apply for some type of public assistance, since my savings were almost depleted the last time. How about those personal costs, huh?
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Vanessa, you’re absolutely right — so many jobs today depend on consumerism. But I think that is the writer’s lament: that this is what the world has come to. True, but sad.
Big picture: this thing we call consumerism attained its identity in the 1950s, as television became established and TV advertising drove more people to buy more stuff. Everyone looked and saw, lookee here: we grow the economy and “everyone benefits” when we do this. From the VP of Sales at General Motors to the person selling furniture at retail, tens of millions of jobs depend on people buying “stuff.” And the more, the better… in general.
Moving away from a consumerist model raises the hard question you just experienced: what do we make our living from now?
I don’t know that anyone has found the answer to that yet.
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I think Sarah buys plenty. She’s mentioned many higher priced consumable items that she values and therefore buys. I think it is important to spend in ways that align with our values. The main power we as consumers have to shape the marketplace is to be conscious about our spending.
I personally have different values from Sarah, but that doesn’t mean I don’t respect her decision to avoid purchasing things she doesn’t think improve her life or society at large. I think it’s really unfair to label any expression of this mindset as smug.
And if we never changed anything just because it would hurt on the micro-level, nothing in society would ever change. We are still building military tanks in Ohio, even though we have thousands of brand new ones sitting unused in a field somewhere. They are still making them because Ohio is a swing state, and no politician in their right mind would get rid of those local jobs. Don’t you see a problem with that level of waste and poor allocation of resources?
You are certainly right that this mindset might some to go out of business. But if Sarah and people like her instead invest in other types of things, then in theory wouldn’t jobs open up in another sector? I know they might not open up in your city, but such is life. From what I understand, she is a strong proponent of localism and well-made things that are less likely to be outsourced to Asia. This would eventually help the local economy.
I know this is inconvenient or unfortunate perhaps on a micro-level for those who lose their jobs. You are correct to point out the human cost of people not shopping, but some burdens are not ours to carry.
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Fair point, but military tanks built in Ohio are not something the general public buys!
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MamaMia –
Speak for yourself – I have one in my driveway right now!
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On the other side of the coin we have a consumer discarding perfectly good items when creating that free pile.
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Just a fantastic article. My views on materialism align really well with yours. I track everything I spend, not entirely just to save money, but because I am conscious of the fact that we all ‘vote with our dollar.’ Choosing to get a chair free or to buy used is so much more sustainable, and as one poster already mentioned, that money can then either go into your savings or go toward something positive like organic/local unprocessed foods.
Side note, though, there are cases to me when buying something new/not a great deal is justifiable:
1) The thing you’re buying is really, really cute, at least a decent deal, and would be difficult to find elsewhere (I value aesthetics – and especially in the case of clothes, which as a women, can be difficult to find quality ones that fit well).
2) It substantially reduces risk to buy new (like sometimes in the case of a car)
3) Time-money trade off (How much is the time invested in finding a quality item cheap worth vs. how much you save?)
However, on the whole, I do tend to not buy things new/not on sale. I just keep an open mind to doing so based on those last three criteria.
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IKEA furniture is perfectly OK if you use it for a long time. I am presently sitting on my cheap IKEA chair which I bought 18 years ago. It has changed house 3 times and survived 2 emigrations. I doubt whether a more expensive chair would have lasted very much longer. And once I throw it away, I guarantee you, it will not be suitable for another house
For me that is one of the essential things in a frugal life: use your things carefully and long.
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I agree with this sentiment. What’s the use of cheap or even free stuff, if it doesn’t work for your house/life, or gets disposed of/ruined quickly? You have to look at its lifecycle. Much of the furniture in our house are hand me downs or used. It used to be close to 90% used/hand me downs/built. Recently, we have been getting rid of some things that frankly do not work or are broken somehow. For example, we recently purchased a living room sofa. We had specific ideas for both style and length, which limited finding it used. We endedup buying new, after spending 2 weekends (and much internet searching). I don’t have regrets because it fits our life and over its lifespan, will be worth the money we spent.
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I have found some great used things in my life, but overall I prefer new objects that have only been soiled by my own filthy paws. Not sure why.
When I score a nice bargain from the trash pile I take it to the antique store and turn it into cash– they can restore it and find a better owner who will appreciate the stuff.
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I look forward to the day when women stop referring to “asking their husband for money,” as this author did. That’s a sign of a messed up marriage or mentality or both. You aren’t a child who must ask for money. The household budget should be equally “yours” and if it’s not, make sure you don’t give up making your own money.
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Yes, but if you’re sharing a budget, you check with each other (we do). Showing up at the house with new chairs and a receipt (“surprise!”) isn’t really defeating oppression.
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I enjoyed this article a lot. I live in Portland as well and share the culture Sarah describes. One thing that fascinates me is so few people consider the cost of “growth” on long term sustainability costs. For example for some reasons communities can find money for new streets and public services with new development but never enough money to maintain what we already have. It’s fascinating we don’t consider these life cycle costs to even maintaining our civil infrastructure.
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Take out the Fed, and the housing bubble never happens. Blame the “greedy banks” all you want, but they were drunk on alcohol served by the government.
It’s funny you mention Bush’s “go out and shop” speech. Compare it to that of Warren Harding during the 1920 Depression that no one has ever heard of because the government didn’t try to ‘fix it:”
“Let us call to all the people for thrift and economy, for denial and sacrifice if need be, for a nationwide drive against extravagance and luxury, to a recommittal to simplicity of living, to that prudent and normal plan of life which is the health of the republic.”
http://mises.org/daily/3788/
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Like. Like. Like. Like. Like.
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Best post in recent memory
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I agree with Bethany MacLean. People aren’t trying to “keep up with the Joneses” anymore–they’re tring to keep up with the Hiltons and the Real Housewives of wherever. The middle class is trying really hard to be the upper class. (Mostly because of the new reality TV shows in the last 10 years, in my opinion.) They spend all their money on McMansions, granite countertops, stainless steel appliances, the latest iGadget, 60″ TVs, and whatever new thing they saw on HGTV that week. Yeah, those things are nice–but they’re for rich people! My mom never would have dreamed of having a Chanel handbag or Louboutin shoes, but now every young woman wants them because they a) know about them b) see glamourous people wearing them on TV and c) because they can actually find places to buy them. Where would middle-America even buy Chanel in the 1970s? K-Mart? Without Internet, you’d have to fly to New York or Paris or something.
I sincerely think the middle-class would be generally well off financially if they lived modestly like a middle-class, stopped trying to emulate the rich and stopped buying stuff.
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