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	<title>Comments on: 5 principles of fund investing, as illustrated by a zombie</title>
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		<title>By: Breanna @ Quick Cash</title>
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		<dc:creator>Breanna @ Quick Cash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 05:09:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I definitely agree with Principle #5. You cannot just invest your money without monitoring the movement and performance of the funds you have invested.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I definitely agree with Principle #5. You cannot just invest your money without monitoring the movement and performance of the funds you have invested.</p>
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		<title>By: quangcaogooglegiare.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>quangcaogooglegiare.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2012 14:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Best Halloween picture ever!</description>
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		<title>By: Aram Durphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aram Durphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 18:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice article.  I find that the mechanics of compound interest are often difficult for investors to grasp. Also, we can&#039;t forget about fund fees.  As you point out, all else being equal, a one percent difference in fees may drastically alter your final investment.  That&#039;s why ETFs often make more sense for casual investors.  Similar performance, and drastically lower fees.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice article.  I find that the mechanics of compound interest are often difficult for investors to grasp. Also, we can&#8217;t forget about fund fees.  As you point out, all else being equal, a one percent difference in fees may drastically alter your final investment.  That&#8217;s why ETFs often make more sense for casual investors.  Similar performance, and drastically lower fees.</p>
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		<title>By: justin@thefrugalpath</title>
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		<dc:creator>justin@thefrugalpath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 03:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is one reason I prefer index funds. I don&#039;t have to worry too much about a fund becoming bloated and under-performing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is one reason I prefer index funds. I don&#8217;t have to worry too much about a fund becoming bloated and under-performing.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2012 16:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there a good resource for researching fund manager history? 

Although I have a preference for dividend growth and indexing investment strategies, I think it&#039;s reasonable to have some exposure to actively managed funds. Different management strategies may perform better at different times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there a good resource for researching fund manager history? </p>
<p>Although I have a preference for dividend growth and indexing investment strategies, I think it&#8217;s reasonable to have some exposure to actively managed funds. Different management strategies may perform better at different times.</p>
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		<title>By: Vangile</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vangile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2012 15:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting post. Doesn&#039;t principle number 3 depend on the fund manager? Warren Buffet invests in large companies that are relatively old but argues that more than returns one has to look at the managers, their values and their track record. I assume the same can be said for mutual funds - a manager has a great impact on the returns. Magellan&#039;s success could have had more to do with Lynch than other factors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting post. Doesn&#8217;t principle number 3 depend on the fund manager? Warren Buffet invests in large companies that are relatively old but argues that more than returns one has to look at the managers, their values and their track record. I assume the same can be said for mutual funds &#8211; a manager has a great impact on the returns. Magellan&#8217;s success could have had more to do with Lynch than other factors.</p>
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		<title>By: EMH</title>
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		<dc:creator>EMH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2012 14:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks! Your articles are filled with beautiful gems of knowledge. Now I am going to review my funds and make sure I don&#039;t have any zombies lurking around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks! Your articles are filled with beautiful gems of knowledge. Now I am going to review my funds and make sure I don&#8217;t have any zombies lurking around.</p>
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		<title>By: rosarugosa</title>
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		<dc:creator>rosarugosa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2012 00:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Best Halloween picture ever!</description>
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		<title>By: Paden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2012 00:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Read &quot;Common Sense on Mutual Funds: Fully Updated 10th Anniversary Edition&quot; By John Bogle.

It will answer all your questions on the where, what, and how of mutual fund investing. If that isnt enough there is a boglehead wiki site that goes into the basics of mutual fund investing and more detailed strategies.

http://www.amazon.com/Common-Sense-Mutual-Funds-Anniversary/dp/0470138130</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read &#8220;Common Sense on Mutual Funds: Fully Updated 10th Anniversary Edition&#8221; By John Bogle.</p>
<p>It will answer all your questions on the where, what, and how of mutual fund investing. If that isnt enough there is a boglehead wiki site that goes into the basics of mutual fund investing and more detailed strategies.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Common-Sense-Mutual-Funds-Anniversary/dp/0470138130" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/Common-Sense-Mutual-Funds-Anniversary/dp/0470138130</a></p>
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		<title>By: Paden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2012 00:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, your comment right there is the reason so many people get into trouble when investing in mutual funds or index funds. You can&#039;t win.

It is statistically unlikely that one can beat the market year by year for 30 odd years. At some point there will be a reversion to the mean (under performing). And then you have expenses on top of that (Actively managed funds will incur higher expenses as a result of increased transaction and managerial fees). 

The reality is that the expense ratio is the most effective way of determining success of a fund over the long term (due to compounding). A passively managed index fund with no-loads (both front and back end) or 12b-1 fees will reduce expenses to an absolute minimum and provide maximum yields with the minimum risk.

Your goal should be to TIE the market because it is both easier and less risky to do so.

The easiest way for most people to go about this is to buy into Total Stock Market Fund and a Total Bond fund in proportions based on your risk tolerance.

I would suggest that anyone who has a retirement plan read &quot;Common Sense on Mutual Funds - 10th Anniversary Edition&quot; by John Bogle. It is the most valuable investment I have ever made. I would also suggest reading the boglehead wiki site.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, your comment right there is the reason so many people get into trouble when investing in mutual funds or index funds. You can&#8217;t win.</p>
<p>It is statistically unlikely that one can beat the market year by year for 30 odd years. At some point there will be a reversion to the mean (under performing). And then you have expenses on top of that (Actively managed funds will incur higher expenses as a result of increased transaction and managerial fees). </p>
<p>The reality is that the expense ratio is the most effective way of determining success of a fund over the long term (due to compounding). A passively managed index fund with no-loads (both front and back end) or 12b-1 fees will reduce expenses to an absolute minimum and provide maximum yields with the minimum risk.</p>
<p>Your goal should be to TIE the market because it is both easier and less risky to do so.</p>
<p>The easiest way for most people to go about this is to buy into Total Stock Market Fund and a Total Bond fund in proportions based on your risk tolerance.</p>
<p>I would suggest that anyone who has a retirement plan read &#8220;Common Sense on Mutual Funds &#8211; 10th Anniversary Edition&#8221; by John Bogle. It is the most valuable investment I have ever made. I would also suggest reading the boglehead wiki site.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon @ MoneySmartGuides</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon @ MoneySmartGuides</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2012 22:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article. The reason I am all for passive investing. I&#039;d love to get the returns the Magellan Fund offered, but with thousands of mutual funds out there, the odds I&#039;d pick that fund are slim to none. As a result, I&#039;ll just take what the market gives me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article. The reason I am all for passive investing. I&#8217;d love to get the returns the Magellan Fund offered, but with thousands of mutual funds out there, the odds I&#8217;d pick that fund are slim to none. As a result, I&#8217;ll just take what the market gives me.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2012 20:04:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The differences in the same fund are astounding. 314% more (414% is wrong, btw, it&#039;s 414% of the other value, which is a 314% increase) versus 17% less. It&#039;s important to keep these things in mind since it goes against what we want to believe (at least, what my &quot;gut&quot; would tell me at first thought).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The differences in the same fund are astounding. 314% more (414% is wrong, btw, it&#8217;s 414% of the other value, which is a 314% increase) versus 17% less. It&#8217;s important to keep these things in mind since it goes against what we want to believe (at least, what my &#8220;gut&#8221; would tell me at first thought).</p>
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		<title>By: Gillian @ Money After Graduation</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gillian @ Money After Graduation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2012 18:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post. Wish I could get some 29% average returns !! All great principles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post. Wish I could get some 29% average returns !! All great principles.</p>
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		<title>By: KSR</title>
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		<dc:creator>KSR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2012 17:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are so denied....boyfriend.  Okay, APPROVED.  (Couldn&#039;t resist)
But, wouldn&#039;t it have been fun to catch a ride on that voyage with the mighty Magellan from the year 1977 to 2012!?!  Weeee!  That&#039;s one happy retired boomer.
All in all, you have solid advice per usual, but I&#039;m just sayin&#039;--someone out there rang the register.

By the way...you have her eyes. Booohahaha.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are so denied&#8230;.boyfriend.  Okay, APPROVED.  (Couldn&#8217;t resist)<br />
But, wouldn&#8217;t it have been fun to catch a ride on that voyage with the mighty Magellan from the year 1977 to 2012!?!  Weeee!  That&#8217;s one happy retired boomer.<br />
All in all, you have solid advice per usual, but I&#8217;m just sayin&#8217;&#8211;someone out there rang the register.</p>
<p>By the way&#8230;you have her eyes. Booohahaha.</p>
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		<title>By: Peach</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2012 15:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Liked the pic, LOL! Were you at work? Too funny.

This was a great article, especially principles 4 and 5. Maybe we sometimes treat investments like they&#039;re savings accts and cd&#039;s and don&#039;t check them as often as we should? I&#039;ve been guilty of this. Life gets busy and complicated, and I forget about my investment until it really takes a dive. 

Thanks for the reminder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liked the pic, LOL! Were you at work? Too funny.</p>
<p>This was a great article, especially principles 4 and 5. Maybe we sometimes treat investments like they&#8217;re savings accts and cd&#8217;s and don&#8217;t check them as often as we should? I&#8217;ve been guilty of this. Life gets busy and complicated, and I forget about my investment until it really takes a dive. </p>
<p>Thanks for the reminder.</p>
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		<title>By: K</title>
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		<dc:creator>K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2012 13:55:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, I was so distacted by your Suze Orman costume that I couldn&#039;t read the article.  Best costume ever!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I was so distacted by your Suze Orman costume that I couldn&#8217;t read the article.  Best costume ever!!</p>
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		<title>By: Joe @ Retire By 40</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe @ Retire By 40</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2012 13:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holy Moly! That picture is frightening! I fell prey to inertia too. It&#039;s hard to move things around once you are settled. That&#039;s why I&#039;m moving most of my investments to Vanguard. I&#039;ll keep a portion for active investment and I know I&#039;ll pay attention to that. 
I think we should also pay attention to the fee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holy Moly! That picture is frightening! I fell prey to inertia too. It&#8217;s hard to move things around once you are settled. That&#8217;s why I&#8217;m moving most of my investments to Vanguard. I&#8217;ll keep a portion for active investment and I know I&#8217;ll pay attention to that.<br />
I think we should also pay attention to the fee.</p>
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		<title>By: TB at BlueCollarWorkman</title>
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		<dc:creator>TB at BlueCollarWorkman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2012 12:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The inertia thing is a good point. But for more than just why you said. With many things financial, we sort of just continue with what we&#039;re doing and let it keep building and moving forward, even if it&#039;s not working! It&#039;s just easier that way. But we&#039;re shooting ourselves in the foot. Get off the inertia wagon and take control. Sure, it takes energy and willpower, but hey, it&#039;s worth it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The inertia thing is a good point. But for more than just why you said. With many things financial, we sort of just continue with what we&#8217;re doing and let it keep building and moving forward, even if it&#8217;s not working! It&#8217;s just easier that way. But we&#8217;re shooting ourselves in the foot. Get off the inertia wagon and take control. Sure, it takes energy and willpower, but hey, it&#8217;s worth it.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elizabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2012 12:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Loved the picture, and enjoyed the post! I wonder how many other zombie funds there are out there?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loved the picture, and enjoyed the post! I wonder how many other zombie funds there are out there?</p>
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		<title>By: William @ Drop Dead Money</title>
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		<dc:creator>William @ Drop Dead Money</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2012 11:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t it amazing that an S&amp;P 500 index fund is so simple, yet so hard to beat?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t it amazing that an S&amp;P 500 index fund is so simple, yet so hard to beat?</p>
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