Reader Stories: My strange love of stocks or: How I learned to stop worrying and love the Buffett
Published on - November 25th, 2012 (by Ellen Cannon) This Reader Story comes from Rick Lee. Rick commented on William Cowie’s post about investing, and several readers wanted to hear his story. So we reached out to him and asked if he’d tell us how he became a successful investor. Rick is a 40-something husband, father, retired chartered accountant, blackjack card counter, entrepreneur, aspiring chef, musician, and lover of travel, food and wine.
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At the end of 2008, when the great recession hit my small business, I took stock of what I had, sold off what was unnecessary, and regrouped.
My resources included my wife with a steady job, experience in operating my own businesses, and a drive to succeed in any new venture. I believe that these non-financial resources were more important than the financial ones. But for the bean counters out there, and I’m one of them, my assets included:
- a house worth $300,000 Canadian and mortgage-free after ten years
- gold, silver and other assets worth $100,000
- retirement savings worth $170,000
- line of credit debt $100,000 (hey, nobody’s perfect)
At the start of 2009 I started listening to library books on CD. My first good investing books were:
- “Rule #1,” by Phil Town
- “The Warren Buffett Way,” by Warren Hagstrom
- “Buffettology,” by Mary Buffett
I learned my values aligned with Warren Buffett’s. He loved doing business as a boy. Warren was frugal, and still lived in the house he and his wife bought when they married. Buffett read five newspapers a day. Personal integrity was paramount to Warren, first for himself, next for managers in the companies in which he invested.
I decided to make Warren Buffett my teacher, and to learn from his teachers as well. Some of the books that shaped Warren’s thinking arrived on my library shelves, including:
- “The Intelligent Investor,” by Benjamin Graham (he was Buffett’s mentor)
- “Common Stocks and Uncommon Profits,” by Phil Fisher
- “Security Analysis,” by Benjamin Graham and David Dodd
Taking control of my own finances
The next thing I did was to fire my wife’s investment advisor. She was with him for 10 years and his returns were negligible. He put her in high-load mutual funds and I got her out. Next I transferred all proceeds to my discount brokerage, and our retirement savings were set up in self-directed accounts that I managed myself.
I put all the cash in money market funds with the highest interest. Next, I researched for our first company to invest. The “Rule #1” investing book had a good set of criteria to detect what was a great company. I added my own personal rule to only invest in companies that pay consistent rising dividends over a long period of time.
I looked at balance sheets, income statements, cash-flow statements and management discussions of results for dozens of companies. I was a chartered accountant and knew how to read the reports. (If you don’t and want to learn, the SEC has an excellent guide written in plain English.)
After six months of reading books and researching several companies, in June 2009 the market signaled for me to get in. I was ready emotionally, and I bought my first position: 500 shares at $11.20 per share of this coal-loading company. This business took coal from trains and loaded it onto ships for export. No debt. Good dividend. It was an easy-to-understand business with a track record of prudent management and a foreseeable stream of revenue and dividends for the next 10 years – just the kind of business I’d like to own. Then I did the financial analysis. My important ratios were healthy returns on equity, conservative debt to free cash flow, and a few others. Then I did the price analysis. My goal was to buy stock only when the market price was less than the fair value of the company.
The stock price of this company was so low that the dividend yield neared 10 percent when interest rates were below 2 percent. I love this company, and eventually the market showed some love too, bidding up the price to $27. While I’ve added to and pared back the position, I’ve collected dividends of $3,800 and realized capital gains of $3,500. I continue to receive 4.8 percent dividend yield and sit on an unrealized gain of $6,300 at today’s prices.
Other companies were researched, bought, and held with the same disciplined approach. Since 2009 we have collected more than $50,000 in dividends. I paid off that line of credit and we are completely debt free. The retirement accounts total over $250,000.
I kept my love of reading about great business ideas and the stable of businesses we owned through stock grew. We are currently invested in, and receive dividends from, a telco, a real estate investment trust (REIT), technology, restaurants, construction, a bank, medical supplies, retail, drug, toys, car finance, engines, helicopter services, chemicals.
Don’t panic
One of the best things I learned was never to panic when stocks sell off. I knew that companies were the way capitalism worked and the GDP of a nation is a sum total of all the wealth-creating companies that were included. Thus the economy as a whole was inescapably “buy and hold.” If the economy weakened, but the company itself stayed profitable, I stayed with it. But if I found a better investment opportunity, only then did I look to reduce or sell completely a weaker investment. A market correction of 10 percent was not problematic if I was predisposed to riding through a 50 percent decline in the stock price due to market volatility.
Some questions to consider before you invest:
- Are you willing to learn from someone successful, like Warren Buffett?
- Would you only invest in businesses that you understand and would want to own?
- Does the business have an enduring competitive advantage that proved itself financially?
- Would you be willing to own the stock like you would own the business, for many years?
- Will you commit to learn about the companies you own, visit their stores, read their reports?
- Can you ignore the market price, unless you want to buy more stock, and buy only when prices were low?
If you can say yes to these, you can become a successful investor.
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No reason for the disclaimer at the end. This was an excellent article! Thanks!
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Thanks for the great reading recommendations and the link to the SEC guide – I’ve been looking for something like that. Great article sir.
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This is the type of article that use to be at GRS. I would like to see this author do future articles.
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Why was El Nerdo’s reply and my sur reply removed from the blog.
I understand that only statements offensive statements would be removed. I didn’t think our statements were offensive. I would like to know what what offensive about these statements for the future.
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I see El Nerdo’s reply to your comment. Was there a second reply?
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Thank you for responding.
There was only one reply. My computure does not show the reply anymore.
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Interesting article, but I was disturbed by the way this person talks about his wife. First, he lists his wife among his “resources.” Then, he talks about how he fired his wife’s investment adviser and moved the money to a different account. Did she have any say in all of this? We are not given any reason to think that she did.
Sure, in a marriage, each person’s job can properly be included in the couple’s joint resources. But then the resources should be referred to as “ours,” not “mine,” and should include only the job, not the person.
Sure, if you think your spouse is getting bad investment advice, you should let them know and talk about making a change. But the decision should ultimately be theirs, and should be portrayed as such to other people.
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Oddly enough, I had the opposite reaction to the “resources” part — I get annoyed with articles where someone is talking about their business, investments, etc, and not acknowledging the spouse with the steady income or who runs the household/raises the kids (or both) that makes a lot of it possible. It was nice to see some say up front that his wife’s steady job is valuable and was part of the reason he was able to do what he did.
I did notice the post went back and forth between “I” and “we” so it would have been interesting to hear more about about her role in all of this — but then again there’s only so much room in an article…
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Great article.
A yield of 10% when everything else is 2% would have been a red flag to me. It seems too good to be true.
Did you compare your returns to a dividend focused mutual fund, such as VHDYX?
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This was a great article and I appreciate the insight into buying individual equities. I, however, use a different, perhaps simpler, approach: I dollar-cost average into broadly diversified index funds and I hold onto them for years, if not decades. I don’t need the dividend yield or capital appreciation now so I don’t worry myself with what the markets are doing or if we are approaching a fiscal cliff. Over time my portfolio becomes more conservative and I rebalance yearly. It’s a boring, unimaginative strategy but it might just be crazy enough to work. Your mileage may vary.
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Dude! Thanks! I am going to print that out and tape it to my desk! That is what I strive to do. Mostly with success. This is a concise description that I need to gaze at every once in a while to remind me to stay the course.
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You’re quite welcome. Stay the course, and remember the goal is not to outperform the market. But rather to NOT underperform it.
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What does that mean, “dollar-cost average into broadly diversified index funds”?
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It means that he/she constantly put money into indecies that track the market it is supposed to represent. An example is VTSMX which tracks the entire US stock market. It is great because it is so diversifed and you get the “average” return. You will never get rich from an index fund like this, but with very low expense ratios it performs better than the “average” actively managed fund.
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Yes, this is exactly what it means. And you’re right that you won’t “hit the jackpot” with index funds but you will get the market return, which is, oddly enough, better than the average active investor gets. Again, it’s not for everybody. It’s not an exciting strategy – the highs aren’t as high and the lows aren’t as low – but my goal is financial independence, not mountains of cash.
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To be specific, “dollar cost average” means you put the same amount of money into the fund each month (or year or quarter or whatever). That way, you’re buying less when the market is up, and more when it is down.
For example, if you buy $100 worth of a fund when it is valued at $1 a share, you buy 100 shares that month. If the fund drops in value the next month to 50 cents a share, and you buy $100 worth again, you buy 200 shares that month. If it goes up to $2 the next month, and you again buy $100 worth, then you buy 50 shares that month.
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Good article, thanks, Rick. Very solid principles, someone like myself certainly benefits from being reminded/pointed in the right direction. Would you be willing to share what companies you are invested in?
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Just what I needed- some resources to get me started as I learn more about investing! I found this post really useful, and hope GRS will have more informative articles like this in the future.
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I want to preface this comment with congratulations since it is not my intent to critique or in anyway seem cynical. But, 2009 was the super bowl, the worlds fair, a black jack table stacked with only a single deck. It was the beginning of awesome for those prepared, in waiting, and equipped–the disclaimer of myself included. Those already in—experienced devastating losses and needed to rebuild. Those in wait or just getting in had nothing or no way to lose. Nearly a decade of super steroid wealth was destructed in a virtual instant of a popping bubble, leaving the historical opportunity for an event that posed nowhere but up.
“Be fearful when others are greedy and greedy when others are fearful.” No truer words comply to the rules and world of “the street.”
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While I think you make a good point, it is not impossible to have lost money on dividend-paying stocks since 2009. A quick stock screen of companies with a negative 3 year total return and a yield greater than 1% returns 339 companies, 133 of those companies are over a billion in market cap.
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I’m glad you followed up with that point because that is…the point. Getting in at the 2009 low doesn’t warrant a claim to success, just a “good for you” since a lot of people didn’t even see it coming and just kept dollar cost averaging– and still don’t even know what’s going on most of the time while they ride the wave. What an active investor is doing right here and right now is the true measure of investor grit–not what you did back in the winner winner chicken dinner year of 2009. I do think the dividend players are in bubble territory as well as the bond bugs. I do think the cliff matters. I do think that a multitude of political and economic factors, that are all in play right now, are making it a very difficult game for even a good investor and— dangerous even. I’ve been out and back in waiting because I just don’t smell the fear or feel the greed of others as strongly as that of my own yet.
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@ Malcolm– I don’t remember ever reading anything like this while trolling through the archives (and I’ve looked) but I’m definitely enjoying this article regardless of whether paradise was actually lost or not. This is a great article for me.
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I didn’t mean the specific article or topic. I was generally referring to the overal appraoch of articles prior to JD taking a true back seat to this website.
Your articles are one of the reasons that I still read this blog.
More and more I find myself not finishing an article. The site has really changed and not for the better unfortunately.
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Ksr just waking people up to the fact that there’s something out there besides indices and that the market moves up – and down – is a good thing. Baby steps.
Also, this blog is totally messed up on firefox. I keep getting internal errors on links.
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This is great. My father did very well with individual stocks and refused to buy mutual funds because he hated paying a fund manager. Though the bull market returns of the 1990s made him look smarter than he probably was, he did end up leaving my mother with more passive income than she could spend when he passed away in 2000, which was quite an achievement. He did all his research at the public library. The librarians loved him because he provided them the the chance to use all their training to help him get information on different companies and also the municipal bonds that were a good deal back then.
Years later my mom had her investments at one of the “financial advising” subsidiaries of a major bank. What a scam. They put it all into their own mutual funds, which have fees to their managers, after charging her a fee themselves for “managing” her investments.
I’m not opposed to mutual funds, by the way, just the way my mother’s assets were handled.
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The Buffett Way is the only way! Everyone else is just lying
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I have all three of those books (although I haven’t been able to plow all the way through Security Analysis) and I would recommend two more: Seth Klarman’s out-of-print classic Margin of Safety and Jeremy Siegel’s The Future for Investors. Do a Google search and you can find a pdf of Margin of Safety. (Or buy it used for about $900)
Klarman’s book is an argument for Graham-Dodd/Buffett-style value investing. Siegel’s makes a compelling case for strong brands and good dividends. He also broke down the S&P 500 into asset categories (i.e. Industrials, Energy, Technology, Consumer Discretionary, Telco, etc) and found that only three industries did better than the index as a whole: health care, energy and consumer staples. That makes sense because they are the 3 things that most of us simply aren’t going to go without. I have biased my own portfolio in that direction.
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Rick, I enjoyed reading your story — thanks for sharing.
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Great article. Thanks for laying out the basics. I try to invest the same way (not successful yet). I love all the ideas behind analyzing a company: ROE, cash flow, debt, etc. One caveat though: some of your success is likely due to good timing. The market bottomed in 2009. Almost any US equity investment since then has done exceptionally well. So, I’m not sure if you should conclude that you have an eye for “Buffett stocks,” though it sounds like you might. You may have a better eye for when the market is hitting bottom.
The reading suggestions are great, and I would also recommend “Why Stocks Go Up and Down” by Pike, especially for beginners (read it before Graham/Fisher – they’re intense for newbs).
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Great article! Thanks aso for that SEC resource; I wasn’t aware of it either.
Kudos on your decision to take charge of your own investing. It always involves an element of trepidation, but if you follow sound rules (like growing dividends) your long term future usually ends up better than with more passive strategies. And, as in most things in life, the more work you put into it, the higher your reward.
And I agree with Marianne above: bank “managed” funds are one of the worst travesties on the financial landscape.
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Loved this article! This is the first post I’ve read in quite a while that had real financial substance. Personal finance is a tricky topic because readers are all at such different places on the road to financial independence. I’ve felt that GRS has really started catering to the “newbies” with very basic posts about frugality and basic money management. It’s a nice change of pace to see a post for those of us who are further down the path.
If anyone can recommend other blogs that provide more substantive articles like this one, I’d love to hear your suggestions.
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I’m curious how you are able to evaluate the “fair value” of a company compared to the market price better than the thousands of other (many institutional) investors out there. Reading 4 or 5 newspapers a day does not make you better informed than the vast majority of those making decisions that affect the price of a stock on a given day.
I suggest that everyone who is considering this type of investing read up a bit on the efficient market hypothesis and understand how incredibly risky this type of investing is compared to a well-diversified index approach.
Always remember that when you buy a stock, there is always someone else (probably better informed than you) willing to sell the stock at the same price.
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Definitely. Research has demonstrated that even the fund managers at the giant investment firms (who are supposedly experts at researching and picking stocks, timing markets, etc.) only periodically outperform the market average, and when they do they then become more statistically likely to then have a string of ‘bad’ picks (reversion to the mean). Which is exactly what you’d expect to see if the market was efficient. If you want to be even more horrified than usual at the insane arrogance of Wall Streeters, there is a great chapter in Daniel Kahneman’s “Thinking, Fast and Slow” that shows how these guys convince themselves that they are actually worth their ginormous bonuses, even though data shows that over the long term they do no better picking stocks than dart-throwing monkees would.
However, I think you could hypothetically score big in instances where the market is not efficient, or is rigged (which big firms are now able to do sometimes) or is otherwise ‘acting irrational’, as in bubbles, etc., as long as you can keep yourself emotionally dis-invested and clearly identify what is happening.
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Good work on getting putting together a cogent investment philosophy. The reason that small investors using a diversified value approach can outperform big Wall Street mutual funds is that the mutual funds often don’t use this approach. Large institutional investors will often focus on short-term investment periods, actively trade, look to add stocks that have already run up in price, and charge exorbitant fees. There are several studies that show that buy-and-hold investors with diversified portfolios tend to outperform active traders.
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Greetings. Thanks for a really readable and accessible article that with much needed tips and strategy advice for an investment abcedarian, such as myself. Citing the books you found useful was a great bonus as well. As other commenters have noted, I would really appreciate more of these types of articles on GRS.
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There is this website called http://www.gurufocus.com that I use to find out what Warren Buffett and other value investors have been buying.
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