Ask the Readers: How do you manage your clothing expenses?
Published on - January 11th, 2013 (by Ellen Cannon) It seems like the fight against Stuff is ongoing, whether it’s toys, electronics, books, CDs, tools or anything we consume. Yesterday, Holly talked about fighting the battle of the toy bulge. Recently, reader Adrian G. posed this question for the readers:
How many clothes do your kids have? My 14-year-old son was out of town, so I sneaked into his room to catch him up on some laundry and weed out the too-small clothes.
Even after the pruning and six loads of laundry, he had 55 T-shirts alone, plus jeans, dress pants, sweatshirts and a whole wardrobe of scout uniforms and accessories for every season and activity. No wonder his room looks like a bomb went off. Now I’m wondering if this is typical or if we’re some kind of clothing hoarders? What is an acceptable amount of clothing for a teenage boy?
While Adrian is asking specifically about her son, we’d like to hear what readers’ thoughts are on teenage girls, working folks, etc. How many clothes do you need?
Those who work from home or who work in a casual office may have far fewer clothes than those who work in a corporate office. A couple of pairs of jeans and khakis, five or six shirts and T-shirts for men should suffice if the guy works in a casual office. Women can get by with black pants, a black skirt, some tops and sweaters.
If you’re in an office where you’re meeting with clients, or if you have a job dealing with the public, your wardrobe can grow out of necessity. You’ll most likely have a Monday-through-Friday wardrobe of suits, dresses, special shoes – most of which you will never wear on nights or weekends. So you need a weekend wardrobe too.
If you live in a four-season climate, you’ll have a variety of coats, sweaters, boots and so on to face the worst of winter. Those of us who live in an area where the weather is fairly mild all year can get by with many fewer clothes.
The wildcard that can send a wardrobe into overdrive is fashion. If you must have a few pieces that have been featured in the pages of InStyle or GQ, you’re going to be adding clothes to your wardrobe regularly. And just like that, they’re obsolete, as far as fashion is concerned!
So, Readers, how do you plan your wardrobe – or your children’s – for value, style and maximum use? Do you have an annual budget? Do you buy your teenagers one new back-to-school outfit each fall? Have you had to curb the fashion impulse in your teenagers? What do you do with clothes that are no longer useful, whether they’ve been outgrown or gone out of style? Do you use eBay, consignment shops or thrift stores to move your old wardrobe or add “new” pieces? Let us hear how you manage your clothes budget.
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I believe this has already been covered on GRS. Please see this link –
http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2011/09/16/ask-the-readers-how-much-do-you-spend-on-clothes/
Also – without knowing the activities your son partakes in, it’s impossible to answer this question for you. However you and your son know what activities you do and can plan the appropriate number of outfits for each according to your needs. I find it interesting that you think your son’s closet is the issue. I am assuming you bought him a significant portion of the clothes and/or he purchased all these articles based on behaviors he learned from friends and family. If you think he has too much, it might be a good time to ask yourself the question “How’s my closet looking?”
Good luck with your quest to find ‘the right amount of clothing’ for your needs and life.
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Amy, do you have children?
I understand kids learn from their families but it’s not always the parents who are skewing their understanding of ‘needs’ versus ‘wants’ (or the inevitable sense of the teenage gimmies). My mother-in-law insists on taking the kids shopping as a leisure activity (no matter how many times we’ve politely and respectfully asked her to stop doing so). Both kids come home with at least two or three new articles of clothing after each trip (and then my husband and I embark on yet another conversation surrounding the strategy for how to handle her over-bearing behavior). And none of that is even counting the hoards of clothing they receive as birthday and Christmas presents.
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And let’s not forget the sports teams jerseys – there’s at least one new one for every season and then there always seems to be a new one for the Math-a-thon, the Diabetes Walk, Field Day, clean up the park day, etc. And if you don’t prune the shirts from year to year and season to season, you end up with quite a few new t-shirts without ever actually having purchased that many.
My kids wear uniforms to school and so (I think) they have well under 50 shirts a piece, but even so there is a freakishly high number. And yet, there is no way that the number of tee shirts my sons have bears any resemblence to my (or my husband’s) relationship to clothes.
I like to make sure they have at least two nice golf/polo type shirts and a pair of khakis that fit nicely. I make sure they have at least 3 pairs of casual pants. I don’t really buy their tee shirts but just let them wear the ones they accumulate in their activities. They each have at least two sweatjackets.
My daughter is another story. Unlike her brothers, a fair amount of her clothes come for Christmas and birthdays. She also has quite a few tee shirts, but she only wears them in the summer or when she’s at dance practice, not out and about during the rest of the year. As she wears a uniform, she doesn’t need that many clothes. At this point, if there’s something she really wants, she generally buys it herself.
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I don’t have kids. But I do have lots of vivid memories about my mother’s clothing system. Everything that didn’t fit and still in working order was packed up in seasonal appropriate catagories and saved for the next year, or kid.
Every turn of the seasons we’d have a ‘try on’ day and what fit, we wore for that season – she’d shop at a thrift store for anything we lacked (sometimes target or other places when there was a sale). Mom would ask for clothing for us for Christmas and for birthdays if necessary as well.
We weren’t actually poor growing up, but I believe her system was a product of 6 kids under the roof of an older house with smaller closet space. We didn’t have room to keep everything in the house.
Also – for sports jerseys, we donated old ones back to our school for those who couldn’t afford them, or donated them to goodwill. My brother’s were more the athletic types and did keep some beloved jerseys as lounge clothes long after the particular sports season had passed.
I guess I was lucky – I didn’t have parents that doted on me with too much (though one of my aunts – to this day I believe she is santa clause). I didn’t have a peer group that had particularly deep pockets either, so there really wasn’t much to keep up with with regard to the Joneses. That changed when various friends got jobs and started buying their own clothes, but for the most part, I remember growing up wearing what I needed, and that coincidentally corrosponded to what was in the closet for the particular season.
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My sister in law is amazing. They have five adult children and now have seventeen grandchildren. In her basement are large rubbermaid bins. Each is marked with B or G, S or W, all to size to 8. My nieces go “shopping” together at Grandma’s house with their kids. They add and subtract as clothing comes and goes.
She also supplies a toy library- which gets cleaned out and replaced as toys come and go with safety and reason.
This was an interesting season since four of the five families had boys within six months of each other…but there is plenty to go around. Why stop at 8? Children start to be more particular about what they wear.
It seems to work well.
Doesn’t work as well for us since we have two adult kids and there is one grandchild. I have to hit my own hands when thinking of buying for him. It is tough to be a Nana and not interested in pushing consumerism ;>)
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I buy at least 75% of my clothes at thrift stores. I am fortunate to have several great thrift stores within a few miles of my home, and the sewing skills to refashion my finds, if necessary. It can be very time-intensive, however, especially since I’m usually digging for clothes made before the mid ’90s, when even inexpensive clothing was much better made than today.
I don’t chase the current clothing fads. You’ll save a lot of money if you develop your own fashion style, based on your lifestyle and what’s comfortable and flattering for you. Besides, “retro” anything is in style.
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Buy clothes out of season whenever possible.
Buy only clothes that you love or you won’t wear them, no matter how inexpensive they are.
Buy basics that can be worn with many different things.
Personally, I would rather spend a few extra dollars on well made, well fitting clothes than buy simply based on price alone.
For my 14 yr old son I purchase only what he absolutely needs; two pairs of jeans, a few athletic clothes, a few t-shirts, one coat, a dress shirt, one pair of sneakers, etc. He understands that because he is growing at lightning speed right now, his clothes have a very short life and will have to be replaced in a few months. My older girls are finished growing and it makes sense for them to spend more money on clothes because they will last a few years vs. a few months.
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I admit that I have way more clothes than anyone I know. Partly, this is due to my lifestyle/jobs, where I need a few business formal outfits, a few business casual, I need comfortable clothes to perform massage, and I really like to dress fun and sexy to go out. I am also a performer, so I have a bunch of costumes for that.
Part of my need for more clothes than most is probably the fact that I didn’t grow up with a dryer, and I still use the one that comes with my apartment sparingly.
But I don’t understand at all how anyone could live with two pairs of jeans. I have zero jeans, because I hate wearing them, but generally they are the standard casual pant…
How does having two pairs of jeans work? Chances are you’d be wearing one while the other is in the laundry. How do you get a big enough load together?
After I became single, it suddenly dawned on me that I needed three sets of sheets, rather than two, because there was no way I could fill a load with just one set, and waiting for enough towels to accumulate would take too long.
A while back someone here posted something about how wasteful she thought average american women were, considering that they have 7 bras. I didn’t count mine (some of them are in the laundry bin), but I would eyeball them at 15-20. I have different bras for different clothes. Especially in summer, the color of the bra matters, as at least some of it will likely be exposed. Different shirts require different cuts. Wearing a halter top with a regular bra looks really bad, for instance, but a halter bra is more uncomfortable, and will stick out of a t-shirt in a non-too-flattering way. And then there is laundry. I wash delicates once a week, sometimes once every two weeks. Then it takes a day or two to dry them in winter. If I only had two bras (it has happened), I would have to hand wash one bra as soon as it got dirty and hang it up right then and there. I would also have to make sure that my entire wardrobe fit the style and color of those two particular ones. It’s a drag.
I currently have a boyfriend who can wear casual clothes to work, so except a few nice shirts and one suit, his whole wardrobe is jeans, tees, and sweaters. Even so, he definitely has way more than a few of each because of the laundry factor. He needs to “budget” for the eventuality that his pants and shirts could get dirty every day, and he has to at least make it to the weekend to be able to do laundry.
I would argue that five pairs of jeans are the absolute minimum a guy would need, even when he doesn’t give a crap what he looks like for any particular occasion…
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Good jeans don’t really belong in the washing machine (and never in the dryer), and they should be washed only when absolutely necessary. At least if you’re buying quality raw denim, two to three pairs at a time is enough, and they last many years compared to the cheap stuff.
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? So you are saying “good” jeans will never need to get washed? Does raw denim repel dirt, funk, and wrinkles? I would like some of these invincible jeans please.
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Lady jeans are unfortunately made of ‘stretch denim’ a demonic material that not only wears out faster than regular denim, but makes jeans saggy after a couple of wears, so you have to wash them again to make them rebound
Even the best ones I have are only good for 3 wears before they need washing to snap back to their real size.
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I totally relate to your comment! I’m single, and I need to fill the washer and dryer. I have two sets of sheets and three sets of pjs for warm weather, and the same for cold weather. I own enough clothes to allow me to wash every two weeks. Anything more frequent takes too much of my time. So everything is geared to two weeks – workout clothes, work clothes, casual clothes.
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I have a job that requires me to be in the public eye quite a bit, and I’m the boss, so I wear high quality clothing. I went shopping with a girlfriend recently and when I picked up something on a sale rack my friend said, “that doesn’t look like something the boss would wear” so I put it back. I spend much more than I used to on clothing, but I buy less items. I have started a strategy to buy clothing at Nordstroms during their half-yearly sale, and I have a personal shopper (a free service at Nordstroms)who wades through all of the racks for me. So, I don’t have to spend a bunch of time trolling through the sale clothing–she does it for me. I have set aside a certain amount of money for every sale and stick to my budget. And, I don’t do much, if any shopping, any other times of the year. Since I have a professional wardrobe and a casual weekend wardrobe I have lots of clothes, but I am constantly culling my drawers and closet racks to get rid of items that are worn.
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Maybe you need a smaller washing machine. I’m single, and have two pairs of jeans, two pairs of dress slacks, a couple of skirts, and maybe ten t-shirts, and lots of underware and socks (so I can do a mega load of laundry every two weeks). I do my laundry in my pyjamas so I will have clothes to wear when I’m done.
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With two young kids and a husband who doesn’t like to wear clothes more than once between washes, filling up the washing machine is definitely not an issue. But I know my machine, and I assume most others, have different size settings. If I set it to extra-small, I could fill it up with just a couple days worth of my own clothes.
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It is off the topic of too many clothes, but needing to wash clothes every time they get worn was certainly not the norm several decades ago. Especially in cold climates where you do not sweat.
When I backpack travel in cooler climates I wear the same jeans every day…..they will last up to a month without a wash.
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Jeans are the reason God invented dryers.
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Oh. Everyone else just doesn’t have separate loads for sheets and towels and jeans and delicates and whites and lights and darks, etc. Jeans can go in with darks; sheets can go in with whatever they fit with color-wise; towels can go in with your socks and undies. At this point in my life (doing laundry just for me), I basically have a “lights and whites” load and a “darks” load, period. None of my actual clothes are too terribly delicate, though,and my tights and bras and ‘handwash only’ sweaters can just go in lingerie bags (since I have found that I simply never wash things if I have to do it by hand). Seems to work out fine.
Plus, yeah, you wear jeans until you can smell them or until they’re visibly dirty, then wash them all at once while you’re in your pajamas. For most of us who just wear them to walk around in, that will take kind of a while. (Obviously if you’re doing yardwork in them, that’s different.)
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I just have one load, which is everything. I avoid white for this reason.
Sheets are a different issue and can account for a second load if you need, I just don’t do them on the same schedule as clothing so I never think to account it as the same chore.
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I haven’t bought anything for months. Financial problems made me to think twice before I bought anything. The only two or three times when I bought something was when I received a gift card to some shops to buy what I wanted. Then I decided on what I really needed (clothes for interviews, job, etc). I try to do the best I can with what I have in my wardrobe so right now, I don’t have anything like “clothes budget”. But when my income will be regular and steady, then I’ll need to add some pieces to that.
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I recently added to my winter wardrobe. I hadn’t bought anything (save for a coat last season) for years and was in desperate need.
I bought them all in the post christmas sale and they were at least 50% off.
We don’t budget for clothes monthly. Since we only buy clothes ever few years, we just take some money out of our saving. We’ve done this since for ever and it works fine for us.
I don’t like the ‘cheap’ clothes nowadays. I look for good quality on sale and never buy anything unless I expect to wear it for a good many years to come. So I go for the more ‘timeless’ pieces rather than follow fashion. I’ve yet to be laughed at or stared at so I think I’m doing OK.
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We have a simple theory at our house:
When bringing home a new piece of clothing, one piece must go into the “goodwill” bin. If you bring home two pieces of clothing, then two pieces need to go into the bin. Since implementing this, our closets no longer start to buldge like a muffin-top on a fat chick.
Also, since gaining weight (motherhood), I’ve decided to toss all of the clothes that are too small for me. If I ever happen to get back down to a size 4, I’ll reward myself with a nice little shopping spree.
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Here’s to getting rid of the skinny jeans! I found it very liberating and had the exact same reasoning as you.
I have found my cheapness has kept me from gaining weight on occasion. Recently my jeans were a little tight and I cut back, because no way am I buying more pants.
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I agree about losing weight in order not to buy new clothes. Obviously, life changes will alter a body but if you can maintain a similiar size for many years then you will not need to buy as many clothes. Clothes that fit properly, are made well and are classic cuts will last many seasons and save you money.
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As a mostly stay at home mom, I have very few clothes for myself. But for my kids, I do admit I buy lots of clothes, mostly items that were purchased on clearance. It keeps me from having to stress over laundry.
For the boys, I pretty much have maximums, and those are pretty low numbers. I like to spend $5 on pants and about $3 on a shirt. Sweaters are $10, although I rarely buy them and just wait for (sarcasm alert) those terrible and rude relatives to gift them at the holidays.
How do I get their clothes so cheap? I buy new clothes off season. This means that I often don’t have a choice of style or size. I buy WAY ahead. For instance, I already have clothes stored away for my 5 yr old for when he is 7. It takes some organization and sometimes I fail and buy him too much (3 pairs of brown cords?? What??) But in those instances, I can content myself that I paid very little AND I have another boy that is younger. If boy #1 doesn’t get to wear it, it is likely #2 will. That’s another reason I have more. The more you have, the less they get worn out.
I know as they grow I will have to raise those minimum numbers. I’ll probably raise the shirts to $5 and the pants to $7. I think I can do it.
And I don’t feel bad if my son owns 20 shirts, because I didn’t pay very much. Plus I donate what doesn’t get trashed by active boys.
My biggest conundrum are shoes. I’m cheap and it’s hard to find cheap shoes. I know this will only get worse. Any suggestions from more experienced parents on what a good deal for kids tennis shoes are? Is it crazy to shoot for under $20?
Probably when they get in their teens I will give them a budget and let them shop. But I will show them how they can get more at Goodwill and on clearance.
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It’s better to go with quality on shoes rather than on the cheap. Yes, you’ll spend more but your children’s and your feet need the proper fit and support to avoid problems later in life that come from bad walking/running habits from a lifetime of poor shoes.
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I agree, Jan. But can I play the devil’s advocate for a moment?
Is there really a qualitative difference between the $30 store brands and the $75 name brand tennis shoes? Am I just paying for the logo? I’m genuinely curious. I understand that all shoes are not created equal, but I feel like I need a crash course on how to determine a well made shoe. I pay pretty little for my shoes, but I don’t feel like I am sacrificing the long term health of my feet. I buy certain brands on clearance and am not picky about colors, etc.
I think the best way to avoid injuring your feet is to avoid high heels (advice for women and the drag queens in our midst
) and flip flops.
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I am not sure there’s a huge difference in quality between the $30 and $70 kids’ shoes, BUT my three year old has very wide feet (alas, like his mama) and I spend the money so as to avoid future foot problems like the ones I ended up with. The problem is that only the $70 Stride Rite (or whatever) shoes actually come in wide widths. (I do buy only sale or outlet items, but it ends up being more than I spend on my daughter’s shoes because her feet are narrower.)
When it comes to fit, I’ll pay the price. That said, my kids have two pairs of shoes (play and dress shoes) + cheaper winter boots from, say, Target (I size up for my son, since they end up wearing thick socks anyway).
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Walmart womens athletic shoes sell in the $20-$25 range and have good brands like Scholls which do have wide sizes. I find them as good as Nike that I used to use until they just got too expensive and did not have the arch support this old lady needs.
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Jane, is there a shoe repair shop/cobbler in your area? He or she can help you learn what makes a quality shoe or not. Adequate arch support is the big thing, and you can buy arch supports for shoes that don’t have enough of it. Our repair shop told us that for adults, the soles usually wear out long before the uppers, but you can have shoes re-soled if you know what to look for. That’s saved us a fair bit of money over the years and we get to keep wearing our favourite shoes!
I don’t have kids yet, but for myself I set my budget to cost-per-wear. I’ll spend more on the shoes I wear walking, standing and exercising and less on shoes that are mainly for “sitting around and looking pretty” (as my mother puts it.) I don’t seem to have a problem finding reasonable quality dress shoes on clearance, but my “everyday” and exercise shoes never seem to go on sale for much of a discount.
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One of my favorite things to do is hit the garage sales and see if I can find good quality clothes for my kids to grow into. I had a major score earlier this winter at a church rummage sale and found LL Bean footie pajamas in excellent shape about 2 sizes too large for my son. $1 each. I also scored about 10 pairs of pants for him to grow into as well, all for $1 each. I bring them straight to the washer and dryer once I get home and pack them away in bins that I go to as he gets bigger.
We have a Stride Rite outlet near our house and that is where we go for shoes. I hit the sales and we can get shoes for about $20-30/pair. Good quality too.
I am a big fan of buying in advance. I have noted my son as he gets older is starting to have preferences so that will alter things as I might have to have him come with me to pick out things he would wear. It was nice when he sort of didn’t care.
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Jane, I purchase clothes for my 3.5 year old much the same as you do. When he was a newborn through about the 1st year, I bought many clothes at thrift stores and consignment, but found I could get brand-new for not much more. I buy off-season and clearance at Walmart, Target, and Babies ‘R Us (a few times a year all clearance at BBR will go an additional 70% off). My boy is also pretty big, now a size 5t and 12w shoe. I find that I prefer new now as the clothes get more wear-and-tear. Since he is now a 5T, my goal is $5 or less for shirts and $8 or less for pants. I can also get the Garanimals Brand at Walmart for these prices and less, and Target has their own line with $5/$6 pieces.
As for shoes, I do like to spend more than I will on clothes, as I like him to have quality shoes that fit well and are comfortable. What works best for my boy are Crocs and Stride Rite. I buy Crocs on-sale at their website (one time I got a free $25 Crocs gift card through my Huggies rewards). I also found Crocs on sale at http://www.6pm.com. Recently, I received a 20% off coupon through Crocs opt-in email newsletter, and used it on two pairs that were on sale; plus there was free shipping on $25 or more. The on-sale prices were $14.99 and $19.99, with the coupon and tax, I paid about $28.00 for two pairs of Crocs. I bought one pair in the size he wears now and the other pair in two sizes larger. For Stride Rite, my goal is $35 or less per pair. I will shop in-store when they have buy-one-get-one 1/2-off (sometimes I will buy 2 in his current size, sometimes one a 1/2 size bigger). I mostly use Amazon to purchase Stride Rite, where I can find the pairs I like for $25 or less. My favorite Stride Rite for boys are their washable sandals (Google: Stride Rite Kid’s Brady Washable Sandal). They have a closed toe and heel, mesh sides, and are washable. I use them year-round and with socks in the fall/winter. I do not like the bulky sneakers (especially with the characters) as I think they look ridiculous, and make his feet look huge. I belong to Amazon Prime, which gives me free 2-day shipping on most items.
Hope this all helps.
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I could have written your comment!!! I too shop waaay ahead! I have a 5 year old, and have been on the prowl for cheap size 6, 7 and even 8 clothes that I think he will like. It’s saved me a TON of money over the years, having done that. Now, he has a little brother, and I know it will be a huge savings when he’s in those sizes. Heaven help him if he doesn’t like superheros like my first son though…90% of the shirts for the last 3 years have been Star Wars or Superheroes!!
I’m with you on the abundance…I don’t feel bad that my son has a lot of shirts or pants and PJs…I didn’t pay much for them. Or, they were gifts, which I was grateful for, because my first son hasn’t had tons of new clothes up until this year, when yard sales/used kids shops aren’t producing jeans without faded knees, and shirts that aren’t stained/faded and the clearence deals wern’t so hot. Seems there’s so little for boys on the clearence rack!
But another great thing about all of those shirts? If one gets badly stained, or stretched or something, it’s not a big deal, there will still be pleanty of clothes for #2 in a few years!! Though I did stress out and soak in Baby Oxy for 3 days his best khaki dress pants Dad let him get chocolate ice cream in!! ARGH!
The shoes I have a problem with too. And it doesn’t matter if you buy expensive ones, or meduim ones…it’s how they are put together, so now, I inspect them closely, because we had THREE pairs or tennis shoes spilt at the seams, or the shoelace holders tear after just a few wearings, and two stores refuse to take them back. It’s a pain in the rear, because it’s so time consuming to go around looking for shoes and try them on and have them fall apart.
For myself, I do have a bunch of cheap solid color t shirts from Kohls (about $6) that fit like a dream but I can get about 3 years out of them before they get recycled to my “around the house” shirts, and as the mom of a new baby who spits up on me all the time, I feel entitled to a large shirt collection LOL! On the other hand, I only have 2 pairs of jeans that fit well, and wear athletic pants arund the house since I don’t have to look too good there!
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I think what this post is trying to get at is more the quantity of clothes, rather than the expense of them. How much is enough? How much is too much?
I’m not at home at the moment, so I can’t be too exact here. But, if I had to do a rough estimate I would guess:
-10 sweaters (some cardigans to layer with, others pull-overs to wear alone)
-3 suits
-4 business jackets
-5 business skirts
-5 casual skirts
-5 business dresses
-5 casual dresses
-4 fancy dresses
-3 exercise shorts
-3 exercise pants
-5 exercise tops
-5 casual shorts
-5 capris
-7 casual pants (including jeans)
-7 business pants
-20 t-shirts
-6 nightgowns
-3 raincoats
-1 windbreaker
-1 winter coat
-1 fur coat
-1 combo jacket (Northface type…fleece and shell that can be separated)
-2 shoulder season jackets
And this is after doing some major paring down over the last few years. 95% of these items were bought on sale (at least 50%, if not more) from department stores like Macy’s and Dillard’s, or individual stores like Ann Taylor. And most of the clothing is several years old…I probably buy about 5-6 items a year.
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See, this seems like a reasonable amount of clothing to have, to me…
I just don’t understand how it’s possible to have less when accounting for laundry…
I have a huge wardrobe, but don’t buy that many clothes, partly because I am happy and careful with what I have, and don’t wear the same item all the time. I actually still have clothes from 20 years ago!
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I don’t know. How often do you do laundry? I try to do a load a day, unless I don’t have enough for a load (which definitely happens during the course of a week). I find that two sets of pajamas do me just fine, for instance — one for the laundry, one for me to wear. I’m not sure why one would need four fancy dresses or three raincoats. I would think two fancy dresses (one for summer, one for winter) would do, as would one raincoat. For business clothes, since I wear only black pants to work, I can get away with owning four. Even if one is at the cleaners and I don’t have a casual day that Friday, I can certainly repeat a pants during the week. I have more tops, since I don’t like to repeat tops during the week, and I need to account for changing seasons. T-shirts: Let’s say you have both short- and long-sleeved t-shirts for every day of the week. The maximum you need are 14.
It took me a few years to start thinking this way, but it’s a matter of asking yourself, “How much can I possibly wear in one week? How much seasonal variation do I experience(I live in Minnesota, so I need a larger wardrobe than I would if I lived in Hawaii)?” Then eliminate until you have the minimum number of things you need. Again, I’m not perfectly there, but I’ve pared a lot of my wardrobe since I started thinking that way, and I’ve only had one instance where I had second thoughts (I went down to one fancy dress in my closet and found I had an occasion to pull out the other one that I was planning on selling on ebay).
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I do laundry every 2-3 weeks because I have to go to the laundromat, which is expensive and takes a good 2-3 hour chunk out of my evening or weekend. Even though I wear shirts, pants, and dresses repeatedly in between washings to avoid accumulating laundry too quickly, you can’t really do that with socks and underwear (and you can with exercise clothes, but eventually the smell will get the best of you), so having more is better.
Ah, to have a washing machine at home! Dreams.
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My apartment building has coin-operated laundry and the washer and dryer each cost $1.50 a load, so I definitely don’t want to do laundry every day.
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I think I was misleading on the laundry situation, though I didn’t mean to be (Meghan also mentions it in one of her posts re: her roommates doing only partial loads of laundry). I own a home with a front-load washer and dryer, and I have a husband and teenaged child. If I had to go to a laundromat or do only partial loads of laundry, my system would be different. Also, as I mentioned, there are days I don’t have enough to do a load, and then I don’t do one. What I don’t do is save laundry up for a certain day of the week. Here’s my system: I have a three-part bin for lights, darks and delicates. When I have enough lights or darks or delicates of one color, I do a load. I check daily and probably average four loads per week. It’s hard for me to get enough delicates of one color to do a full load, so I often do a delicate load with some nondelicates thrown in. Also, since front loaders are very gentle, I do hand-wash items on a delicate cycle. All loads are done on cold unless I have something super nasty that I feel uncomfortable not washing on hot. Finally, my work pants are mostly dry clean only (I used to avoid dry clean only clothes like the plague, but it limited my choices too much), and I only wash jeans when they are visibly dirty. This system allows me to purchase clothes based on how much I might wear in the course of one week. It won’t work for everyone, but it really helps me pare down my closet.
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In regards to teenagers- I have two (girls). We give them $200.00 in August when it is back to school time and $200.00 in the spring. This covers everything except dance attire (if you have boys, think sports…pointe shoes are just as expensive as those sport shoes) and they get a new winter coat every other year (this of course won’t work if your kid goes through a growth spurt). When they turn 18 they are 100% responsible for their clothing.
How many clothes they end up with depends on how they spend their money and how much of their own they pitch in. One of my children has an extensive wardrobe because she took my shopping strategies to heart and wears them for a long time. The other has a very limited wardrobe because she prefers to pay full price and needs trendy labels.
I think this strategy teaches them about money and stuff and gives them chances to make choices and make mistakes with little things before they have to make them with big things.
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AMW, I really like this idea, especially that your girls have two different approaches to how they use their money. I was wondering how old your daughters were when you started doing this. My daughters are toddlers but I’m thinking for the future.
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I started doing this when my girls were in the 6th grade but went along with them to show them how to shop (work the sales, etc). In high school they were free to go alone with their friends.
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I also like this approach. Do your daughters have jobs, or will they be getting jobs while still at home? If so, do you plan to gradually lessen the amount of money you give them for clothes and expect them to make up for it with their own money?
When I was a teenager, my mother bought me clothes until I was about 16 and stopped growing. If there was a more expensive item that I really wanted, I had to buy it myself. After that, it was pretty much up to me to buy any and all clothes that I wanted. I had been earning money since I was 10, and by the age of 16, I’d already bought 2 cars myself (wrecked the first one…whoops), so this was pretty reasonable, although I still didn’t have all that much money for buying clothes. Fortunately, I was (and still am) pretty tomboy-ish, so I didn’t want an assortment of dresses, skirts, or cute shoes, just some jeans, T-shirts, and skater-style shoes.
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The oldest one got a job when she was 14(she is now 19) and bought additional items with her money. She is also the better shopper. The youngest one is 16 and just started a job this week…her first purchase planned (after saving 1/2 for college) is clothing. We’ll see how she spends it when it is her money
We did not wean my oldest off the clothing budget until she was 18. However, once they have jobs we no longer pay for entertainment and they have to pay for their share of the cell phone bill.
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Did you encourage your daughters to get jobs or did they want to so they could supplement their clothing allowances or to buy other things? Would love to hear how your younger daughter shops when she is using the money she earned. Maybe a guest article on teaching teens about money?
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I have been enjoying the series of articles about “Do your kids have too many…?”
But the real point is kids get nothing that the parent doesn’t allow and the real title of the series should be “Why do I give my kids everything?”.
It seems the series is really about parental excess and guilt.
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Hm, no. Try – it’s really about handling inter-personal family dynamics in a non-explosive manner while trying to instill a sense of values and appreciation in your kids.
I’m not sure my kids would take kindly to my trouncing into their room to pack up the hoards of clothing they’ve received as gifts while leaving only the items I’ve purchased hanging in their closets. Um, would you appreciate someone doing that to you?!
And by the way, we have never “allowed” the kids to accept anything other than necessities purchased by us and gifts purchased by extended family, no matter how strongly we disagree or push back against the quantity and frequency of those gifts.
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If your extended family and friends is such that they give tons of gifts, you then give LESS gifts for occasions.
This works very well with my family. I can count on at least 10 + Xmas gifts from extended family, so the kids give very small things to open on Xmas from us.
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Nathalie – It’s easy to pass the buck to grandparents and blame them for all the excess. I also do that on occasion, and if I could, I would do it all the time
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But I see a trend in the comments from parents of blaming others for material excess. I just know in my own experience I tend to exaggerate the things others gave and forget all the things I bought for my kids. It might be useful to turn the mirror on our own tendencies instead of passing the buck.
I’m just speaking from my own experience. This might help with the evident anger and grudges that parents seem to hold against the elder statesmen in their family.
Just a random observation from a stranger on the interwebs. Defensiveness has been a noticeable trend in the comments of the last two columns.
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k ~ That’s exactly our approach. As is taking them to homeless shelters to work in the kitchens, involving them in our charity decisions AND our household budget for the year. We also give the least (in terms of gifts) and teach the kids the difference between quantity and quality at every opportunity.
Jane ~ I appreciate that might seem the case in this instance, but this is HUGE issue in our family and one that has threatened to keep us apart on more than one occasion. I am somewhat of a minimalist and my husband is definitely a simplicity-lover, so we are very aware of what we have given the kids over the course of their lives. We tend to buy the kids one gift – one gift only – and have either made it educational, experience-based, or something they really, really wanted (they think long and hard about what to put on their ‘list’ when they know they’re only getting one thing!).
While I agree there has been some prickly comments/responses, I find the sweeping (and very judgmental) commentary to be offensive and entirely missing the point. I consider this blog to be extremely valuable; not only because of the articles themselves but because of the community who flock around it. The sharing of ideas, resources, support, etc., is wonderful. Comments like the one made above, however, do not help anyone, nor does it touch on the nuance and difficulty of managing everyday and often difficult situations in light of our common interest (finances). I like to think I speak up (sometimes) assertively, but always with the intention of *respectful* discourse.
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That being said, and to play my own devil’s advocate here, this is a HUGE issue for us. My mother-in-law is “not well”, and so strategizing how to confront her about issues such as these without ending up with disastrous consequences is very difficult. I realize this is a bit of a trigger for me and so perhaps react a bit too enthusiastically when the trigger is touched (ahem).
I also recognize the need to look to ourselves before pointing fingers (meaning, I understand and agree with your point of view). We work so hard to counter-act the perspectives and “lessons” she (MIL) takes it upon herself to provide so any judgment that we’re not doing our part hits hard.
And while it wasn’t my intent to hijack the finance-related thread with my own family drama (sorry folks), I wanted to thank you Jane for being kind; you pointed out my defensiveness thoughtfully and respectfully and I appreciate that.
* Off my soapbox now.
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Interesting thoughts, Nathalie. It sounds like there is a lot going on there in your family, and I wish you the best navigating it.
I can certainly relate to your perspective and the criticisms that have bothered you over the past two days. As a parent, I do also tire of the narrative that we are spoiling our kids, presumably more than the past. I find it often comes from the (ahem) older generation – precisely the same individuals in our lives who have a tendency to over-give to our children. The hypocrisy can get old.
But I find that looking at my own foibles is a wonderful antidote to the anger and frustration. It levels the playing field, without necessarily excusing others for their own hypocrisies.
And while we’re on off-topic comments – we are supposedly the generation of helicopter, obsessive parenting. Yet, we are also supposedly the ones who ignore our kids while talking or playing on our iphone. So…which one is it, critics?
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I like the way you think, Jane.
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We each have about a week’s worth of work clothes, and as those age out of production, they become “house clothes”. Gym shirts are acquired from road races, and gym shorts and pajamas tend to last many many years.
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I have way too many clothes. I made a post on this earlier last year about how insane my closet is and why I need to condense it (http://www.makingsenseofcents.com/2012/03/a-peak-into-my-insanity-aka-my-closet.html).
I definitely do not need over 50 dresses or anything. I have definitely cut down on my clothing budget . What I try to do is avoid the mall and stores at all costs so that I am not tempted to spend my money.
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My sister’s wardrobe looks like this (maybe worse). I don’t understand this. Do you go out clothes shopping every weekend or something?
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I used to manage a retail store and would bring home clothes everyday. It was bad but I am better now.
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Believe it or not, I have even more clothes and shoes than you do… but I am super organized and everything is hanging up or shelved tidily. However, I realize that I have more than I can realistically wear, so I need to donate a bunch to goodwill or salvation army. I used to be a total shopaholic before I discovered this blog.
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I really need to work on being more organized. That’s my problem! Well, one of my problems
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My clothing budget is essentially unlimited, but I try to keep the principle of “buy less, buy better, and really wear it” in mind.
I tend to go for rugged hand-tailored clothing; it’s a lot less time and annoyance than trying to find mass-produced junk that fits and looks decent, plus I feel a lot better wearing it. The main thing is to avoid accumulating a bunch of rarely-worn cheap Chinese-made crap.
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I only buy clothes on bazaars and mall sales. I used to have more than 30 tops and shirts, plus 6 jackets, 10 slacks and 6 jeans. I do general cleaning every six months and often throw or give away what I did not wear for the last 3-4 months. On my last cleanup, I only have 15 shirts, 10 tops, 3 jackets, 3 slacks, and 3 jeans left on my closet. Since I started working at home, I rarely buy new clothes except for the evening dress I wore on my former student’s wedding. I did not even buy a new coat or boots this winter.
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Lol, as a blue collar dude, I have a few paris of jeans and some t-shirts. Some sweatshirts to help get through the winter. My wife insisted on buying me 1 pair of nice dress pants and a dress shirt once, for weddings and funerals. But tha’ts really it. *shrug* I have no idea what’s going on in my kids’ closets.
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We follow a minimalist’s philosophy (less is more) about how many clothes we have for ourselves and our son. I never understood packing a kid’s closet full of clothes because they outgrow them so fast. So for our son he has about a week’s worth of outfits and pajamas. I shop bargain retail or thrift for his clothes, and buy higher end and more durable brands for his shoes and coats.
DH and I prefer to have wardrobes with fewer things, but of higher quality that will last longer. This is actually a challenge since it’s hard to find quality clothes with a good fit. We don’t budget for clothes since we clothes shop so infrequently, but we do budget for monthly unexpected items so if one of us needs some shoes/clothing it comes out of that. If one of us has the (rare) urge to buy something trendy or non-essential it has to come out of our individual weekly personal/fun money allowance.
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At this point, we only buy new clothes to replace ones that wear out. We keep ourselves in check by having a pretty small budget for that category so it’s really not possible to do more. ($60/month to cover everything appearance-related, generally saved for more expensive clothing purchases.)
We both have a uniform: jeans and a T-shirt. It works for home, work (we are grad students), and nearly all social engagements. We HAVE a lot of clothes, but I would say that we only WEAR 1-2 pairs of jeans and around 10 T-shirts. We also have some specialty clothing that comes out rarely.
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“Those who work from home or who work in a casual office may have far fewer clothes than those who work in a corporate office. A couple of pairs of jeans and khakis, five or six shirts and T-shirts for men should suffice if the guy works in a casual office. Women can get by with black pants, a black skirt, some tops and sweaters.”
Sorry, but does this imply that women who work in a casual setting can’t wear jeans? I work in a fairly casual office (jeans are OK; no T-shirts or sneakers) and EVERYONE wears jeans, unless it’s too hot out.
I don’t have kids so I can’t speak to that part of the post. I KNOW I have too many clothes. My mother tends to give me lots of clothes as gifts, and my birthday is right after Christmas so I end up with tons of sweaters. I also have probably a couple dozen casual T-shirts, even though I can only wear them on weekends.
I donate clothes pretty often but somehow my wardrobe never seems to shrink!
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I think the comments about clothes wearing out quickly for adults are hard to understand. Today I am wearing a cashmere sweater that is 12 years old, a cotton blouse that is 7 years old and a pair of lined trousers (that are part of a pantsuit) that are 10 years old. I am wearing boots (lots of snow today) that are only 3 years old. All of these items were “cheap”, i.e. marked down 70% or so when I purchased them. The Larry Levine pantsuit was $70, for example, 10 years ago, and by far the most expensive item I am wearing today. I would guess I will wear these items for a number of years into the future. I think the cost of clothing, taking into account the quality, fabric and construction, has gone down in the last 15 years.
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I heartily agree. Most of my clothes are 5 plus year old (and I too, have things in my closet that are over 15 years old. I am a die-hard Thrift shop clothes purchaser (over 30 years!), and look for well constructed, Designer clothes for rockbottom prices that last. My current winter coat, from the 50′s, cost $5.00 and it is the 4th winter I am wearing it. I love it. The poster who said that wearing ‘vintage’ means cultivating your own style that never goes out – was SO correct. Jeans etc. – I own 2 pairs, and of course they were both bought at GoodWill. The only thing(s) I buy new are bras (2 skin-coloured; 2 black, 2 Sports and that’s it) and underwear, usually replacing these on average 1ce a year. I also sew and knit my own special things, like sweaters and scarves.
I do have a question for the laundry-conundrum people: don’t your washing machines adjust for the size of the load? My washer and dryer are both about 25 years old, and have dial settings to adjust to small, medium and large loads. That way, I can do a small wash using less water, electricity etc.
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The laundry machines I use are on the lowest floor of my apartment complex. There are 4 washers and 3 dryers for my half of the building, probably 60 units. They are $1.50 to wash, and $1.00 to dry. So, no, they do not have load size settings. And given how exceedingly difficult it is to get quarters (I have to go to the bank every few weeks), I am not doing a load that’s not full unless my life depends on having that particular garment.
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I’ve had issues with clothes wearing out in the past, but I was foolish to think that a $10 sweater from Ross would last a lifetime. Add to the fact that I may have worn it 2-3 day a week during the winter, it should not have been a shock that it didn’t last another season.
In contrast, I have a wool sweater that I purchased from a consignment store years ago. Its an Italian made Barneys NY sweater and it still looks like it was purchased brand new today. That was a valuable lesson for me.
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It also depends what you are doing in your clothes. I work in an art and nature center. On any given day I may be dealing with power tools, snake poop, pre-schooler snot, acrylic paint, spray paint, sweat, or mud. In my spare time, we are remodeling our house by ourselves. We also have a naughty house cat who claws at clothes when she is happy. The knees of my pants wear fairly quickly and clothes that I wear in tick infested areas get washed in hot water. My clothes wear out.
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I’m pretty cheap about buying new clothes! Well, that’s not entirely true. I work in an office, so from time to time I do need to “update” my business-casual wardrobe.
I’m a big Banana Republic fan for work clothing, so I do most of my shopping (online) there. So what I do is — twice a year — wait for them to have one of their 40% off sales, which happen pretty frequently. Then, since I’m only shopping basically once every six months, I go on a shopping “spree” of sorts — two pairs of work pants, four or five button down shirts, a new belt, a sweater, maybe a pair of shoes. Doing that twice a year allows me to “replenish” my wardrobe, while also enabling me to plan ahead of time with my expenses, knowing that for those two times, I’ll need to have money saved for new clothes.
But the 40% off at Banana is crucial!
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I buy most of my clothes at designer outlets so I don’t have to wait for sales. I can get nice work tops for $15-20.
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I think this is a fantastic article about finding balance. It really goes beyond the concept of clothing, and should get people to thinking, “What and where is ideal on the financial spectrum for me and my family?” I brought this up on an episode of my podcast, and one comment I received was that even with children, even with the wear and tear we sometimes put on our clothes, it’s about instilling the importance of good stewardship. If we can hold on to that shirt, or that pair of slacks, and take the best care of them we can, it reduces the need, and eventually the innate desire, to want to buy more of what we may not need at the time.
Daniel
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/financialrebirthlive
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During college, I got tons of free t-shirts (probably somewhere between 30-40 over the course of 4 years from clubs and events). I buy new jeans and other clothes maybe once a year. Old clothes I usually just donate to charity but I always seem to have too many clothes despite not spending a lot on them.
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I rarely buy new items, and I am a firm believer in the one-in, one-out rule. A new pair of shoes replaces an old, rarely-worn pair of shoes, a new top replaces an old, rarely-worn top. This not only helps me keep my clothes manageable, but makes me evaluate my purchases not only on price and looks but also on what it will replace in my closet.
I wonder for the reader in the post when the last time the closet was purged? How many of those 55 shirts have been accumulated over many years? My BF has T-shirts from high school that he still owns (he’s in his late 20s) not necessarily because of sentimental value but because they work as lounge or work out shirts. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it (although finding space for 55 shirts would be a struggle in our place…)
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Question – what do you do with the old shoes you replace? I have multiple pairs of shoes that are literally worn out, so not good enough to give to the Salvation Army, but still around because I don’t know if they’re somehow recyclable, or I should just toss them into the trash, or what.
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Is there a Soles for Souls program near your house? They take worn out shoes too and recycle the parts to make new shoes.
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I have been transitioning toward a uniform for myself. I’m not 100% there yet, but these days I mostly wear black pants plus a seasonally appropriate top to the office and jeans plus a seasonally appropriate top on days off or on Fridays if I don’t have a meeting. I also have some exercise clothes, and I still own two dresses. I drop a lot of money on high-quality shoes, because I have had foot problems. Every once in a while I experience clothing lust, but I was never a huge fashion victim even before transitioning into a uniform, and mostly, I love having a simple closet and not having to think about what to wear.
My teenage daughter is another story. She is still growing, so she really does need new clothes. School shopping is easy, though financially painful: she wears a uniform. That means making a pretty hefty financial commitment, IMHO, but you buy what you need and you’re done until she outgrows what we have. But I HATE shopping, so getting her nonschool clothing is no fun. It took forever this past fall to help her find an appropriate dress to wear to a friend’s bat mitzvah. These days our problem is less “she has too much” (which was a problem in the past with a grandma who enjoys shopping — but the grandma is realizing that her granddaughter has developed her own taste, plus grandma’s pension has been cut, so that has curtailed those gifts) than perpetually finding that Miss Grows-like-a-weed has outgrown all her shoes or pants or dresses AGAIN.
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I LOVE your uniform idea. I’m moving in this direction myself.
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I’m just out of college. I’m going back to school this fall, but I am looking for a part-time office sort of job (I worked in reception as a student, but otherwise for the past few years I’ve worked at a grocery store). Because I’m aiming to work somewhere that will probably require nicer clothing (and because I like to dress up for no reason), I’ve been trying to build up that aspect of my wardrobe. I probably have about:
- 3 dress pants
- 4 female dress shirts, 6 male dress shirts (I much prefer male-style clothing; I also have several ties)
- 2 blazers
For more casual wear, I need to par down for one major reason: I’ve gained a lot of muscle weight over the past year, so some of my jeans are tight around my now-muscular thighs and glutes, and some of my shirts are getting a little tight around the shoulders and upper arms. Right now, I have about:
- 8 jeans (I imagine this will be about 4-5 after I get rid of the tight ones)
- 20-25 T-shirts (this counts about 7 T-shirts that I use only as undershirts; I also use T-shirts for sleepwear)
- 10 other casual shirts (probably closer to 6 once I get rid of some tight ones)
- 3 shorts
- 1 exercise pant
- 1 sleepwear flannel pant
- about a week’s worth of undergarments
For cold-weather wear:
- 8 hoodies/zippered hoodies (I wear these inside the house a lot; bundle up inside and you don’t have to turn the heat up so high)
- 2 coats (one that I’ve had since high school that I use for cycling to work, building snowmen, etc, and a newer, nice one that I use for more dressed-up occasions)
- 7 scarves (I’ve had about a year-long love affair with scarves now; fortunately, I’ve never had to pay any money for my scarves)
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I have been slowly trying to transition my wardrobe to more work-appropriate for the field in which I’m studying and interning, and it’s meant basically trying to upgrade everything to “dressy casual,” which is a category I didn’t really have at all a couple years ago. My wardrobe was strictly divided between casual (jeans, t-shirts, a few fun tops and skirts) and formal work clothes (slacks, button up shirts & cardigans, a blazer), neither of which work as everyday work clothes now! I find that the “uniform” for women my age seems to be boots, very dark jeans or a skirt, and a nice sweater.
So I’ve been trying to accumulate more of those sorts of clothes, but I still want to keep the formal stuff for interviews and the casual stuff for non-workdays. Also, I mainly shop secondhand, which is very hit-and-miss, so I get rid of things slowly because often I try to make something work until I get something more suitable, or combine more casual things I already own with more dressy things to make an appropriate outfit. I find this all very confusing! Storage space is at a premium so I should probably do a culling though.
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I’m a 25 year old professional and fashion obsessed. About 2 years ago, I adopt the French Wardrobe system which is a minamilist fashion movement where you have 5 items per season, not including staples like undershirts or accessories but including shoes. It has pushed me to research my purchases (even my vintage purchases) and find the best price for what I feel is the best garment for the job. I might be buying more expensives garments but I wait longer to find the perfect garment at the perfect price. My wardrobe has gone from over 100 garments to about 25 and I actually feel that I have more choices. And even though I am spending more on garments, I am spending less on clothing all together because striving to find the best garment has eliminated impulse buys.
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My wardrobe is a little larger than perhaps it should be – I’m planning on spending the weekend going through what I don’t wear anymore, and needs repairing. I live in an area where I need distinct summer and winter wardrobes and transition pieces.
Concentrating on what currently fits and not what’s packed away for size issues, I have about 3-5 pairs of pants, about a dozen sweaters for winter wear, maybe 6-10 t shirts and tank tops, another 5 blazers and cardigans and a good 10 dresses for spring/fall/summer wear. Then I’ve got about 4 jackets designed for varying levels of coldness and way too many shoes.
Budget wise, only essentials come out of a dedicated clothing budget. So if my jeans become unrepairable or no longer fit I’ll budget for new ones, or if my proper winter boots wear out I’ll budget for those but anything else tends to come from my fun money. Which means that I either covet and save for more expensive items or I wait for sales and buy things I really want because I’m giving up other fun things for clothes.
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My biggest volume suck is athletic gear. For many years I lived in an apartment and had to pay per load to do laundry, so I tried to limit laundry to 1x per week at the most. However, I exercise pretty much every day, and regularly participate in several different type of activities. Complicating the issue was that I’ve spent years participating in an outdoor boot-camp style exercise program – I love it, but it means that I need to have both warm and cold weather exercise gear. I sweat a lot, so I’ve switched over to the synthetic, wicking tshirts rather than cotton.
I’ve found it difficult to get by without: 3 sports bras, 1 bathing suit, at least 7 short sleeved/sleeveless tshirts, 2-3 light-weight long sleeved shirts, 1-2 heavy-weight long sleeved shirts, at least 3 pairs good athletic shorts, 1 pair padded bike shorts, 1 capri pair athletic pants, 1 light weight running pants, 1 heavy weight running pants, a running jacket, several weights of mittens/gloves, and a good warm hat that covers my ears. If I quit boot camp, I would be able to eliminate a couple of items, but otherwise, this is actually my bare minimum list of athletic gear needed.
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It really has a lot to do with lifestyle. There are women upthread talking about how 4 dresses is way too many and really you could get by with 2. I own 15 — a dress and a cardigan or a jacket is my go-to work outfit. My job involves hefty international travel and a dress and a cardigan with sandals, heels or boots goes everywhere, can be dressed up or down to accommodate more and less formal situations and accounts for the bizarre need to air condition public buildings into penguin habitat in the summer. On the other hand, I own 3 pairs of work slacks (summer, winter and dual-season), and 3 pairs of jeans, because I either don’t wear them as often or can wear one and wash one.
I did have to go out and buy basically a whole new summer wardrobe a month ago — we’re moving to the tropics, and my midwestern summer strategy of wearing jeans and a tee-shirt wasn’t going to cut it. I went to the thrift stores and bought 7-8 pairs of shorts and capris and 7-8 additional short-sleeved tops. I have a bin of inexpensive scarves and jewelry, and can mix and match the solids into more dressy and put together outfits with the accessories. I managed the whole thing for $200, and I’ll be set on summer clothes until I spill something on myself and need to replace a piece — which seems to be how my clothes die these days, sadly.
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I agree that lifestyle can make a huge difference, but as the four dress woman, I have to point out that it was four _fancy_ dresses. Yes, if you go to a lot of red carpet events, you need more than two fancy dresses. But I think most of us can realistically get by on two (one for cold weather, one for warm weather, assuming a variable climate — here geography comes into play) and then we can dress up work clothing (lifestyle plays in here: this assumes the woman works outside the home in a job where she wears business or business casual clothing) for other “dress up” occasions. Example: I wore black pants and a nice top to an outdoor wedding and didn’t feel out of place. I do understand that no wardrobe is “one size fits all” (no pun intended), but I also think we can seriously question our assumptions about what we need and find that we actually need much less than we think, especially if we own way more than we could wear in one week (taking into account the need for seasonal clothing and understanding that some people cannot do laundry once a week and may need to own more to make up for that).
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I agree Athletic Gear is probably my biggest difficulty as well. Similar to you I exercise daily and sometimes play multiple sports a day. I try to spend as little as possible without sacrificing on quality- therefore I do splurge on shoes and literally cut the corners elsewhere. I find something that has worked for me is reducing my spending on T-shirts or athletic shirts. Take that old shirt thats been sitting in your drawer for years, cut the sleeves off, and go. Also, look for quick drying material for shorts so you can simply rinse them out while showering and hang them to dry. Buy socks in bulk at discount stores like costo. I guess for women who need added garments there are other factors to consider .
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I wear the same athletic clothes over and over. But working out every day, and then rinsing them out I mean there’s only so many times you can re-wear the same pair of work out clothes (depending on the intensity of your workout too)
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My 5-year-old has 17 dresses, 12 pants, 15 skirts, 2 pairs of shorts, 5 long sleeved shirts, 0 sweaters (we live in Colorado, but she won’t wear them) 25 short sleeved shirts, 9 tank tops, 24 pairs of underpants. With the exception of gifts from Grandma, these are all thrift store and garage sale finds. She is in between sizes, so some of these will be out of the closet soon.
My 3-year-old is also between sizes, and has 13 pairs of pants, 19 skirts, 12 tank tops, 18 short sleeved shirts, 9 long sleeved shirts, 15 dresses, 16 pairs of underpants (still training, so those are necessary). Again, aside from Grandma gifts, these are hand-me-downs from the big sister.
Of course, this is all too much.They could easily get by with less than half of what they have. I have less guilt since I spent so little on it, but they don’t need it all, and I am trying to remove clutter and excess from our lives. I probably have just as much in my closet, but in various sizes that I am trying to fit into. I also shop at the thrift store and garage sales, almost exclusively.
In addition to spending less per garment, I am able to have more options, because instead of using $400 of clothing budget for one garment, I have used $15 for 5 pieces. (I don’t think I spend $500 in an entire year for clothes for the whole family.)
As for clothes when we are done with them? Adult clothes go to the thrift store when they are in good condition, but more often are thrown out, as they are too stained, ripped and patched to be salvaged. Kids clothes are passed along to a friend with slightly smaller children than mine.
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Working in a casual office where I can wear what I would normally wear on a regular day really does keep my wardrobe more simple. At this point I would love to by stylish and fashionable, but I’d love to stay out of debt more. When I was a teenager I found myself with a ton of clothes but never anything to wear. I think at that age you’re really concerned with your appearance so you’ll inevitably have more clothes.
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It has gotten easier for me as I have gotten older (I am 50 years old and work a professional job). I maintain a stable weight and I am able to wear some of the same clothes I have had for 25 years, though most of my clothes are about 6-10 years old.
I “miss” getting new, updated clothes for the novelty of it, but I am enjoying having a savings account better than the thrill of the new.
Most of the clothing budget these days goes to my teenage daughters who are no longer growing, and they enjoy fashion and look great in their outfits. it is fun to see them dress up and be creative in their clothing. But most of their clothing, thank goodness, comes from hand-me-downs from one of my sisters who works in the fashion industry. Their wardrobe is a fun hobby of theirs. They have a ton of clothing. Otherwise, we shop at thrift stores or on sale at Target, getting only what is absolutely necessary (which isn’t much).
I went through a high fashion phase in my 20s, and spent money I regret spending; however, I did purchase quality items which I still use, after all these years.
For my current job, I get to wear boring and blah clothes, all the same from day to day, so it is easy/cheap for me. And I am no longer the pretty young thing I once was, and it is no longer so much fun for me to dress up. That saves money, too!
Enjoy your youthful beauty while you have it, for aesthetic pleasure more than vanity’s sake. It does not last. Clothing can be a lot of fun.
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Enjoyed your comment, but I disagree with the “enjoy your youth and beauty while you have it” part. I think people of all ages are beautiful. It may not be the same kind of beauty, but I’ve seen many examples of people who look good and dress well no matter what their age.
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There used to be a stigma attached to buying used clothing at thrift stores or garage sales. Now with the economic downturn, more and more “regular” people are turning to thrift store shopping to supplement their wardrobes. I’ve shopped thrift stores since WAY before it became trendy. My daughter used to hate the time it took to sift through the hodgepodge of items on every single rack. Now she appreciates the investment of effort when she scores a find and discovers a $60 top in like-new condition for $3-4. Who can argue that logic?
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Most of my clothing excess is due to the neverending battle against flab. I have jeans in 6 different waist sizes and shirts that range from L to XXL. Same story with t-shirts, underwear, outerwear, and dress clothing. Every closet and dresser drawer is jammed full.
At least my shoes and socks don’t change size.
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I don’t have kids so I can’t comment on that, but I can comment on adult clothes.
Now that I’m out of college, working in an office where biz-casual is the norm, my wardrobe has expanded and continues to be more of a “rotating” scenario… compounded by the fact that I’ve been gaining weight (trying to work on that). But it’s hard to let go of some of the more casual parts of my wardrobes – I find some old tshirts have meaning to me and are therefore impossible for me to let go.
The way I keep it under control is to very strictly say, one half of our walk in closet is mine, and the other half is my partner’s. My half is pretty full of clothes – his of course is relatively empty. But it helps force me to put clothes that no longer fit or look good into the “donate” bag. I don’t do a straight 1-1 ratio of buy/donate, but close to it. When I find I’m running out of rack room, I get rid of a few items. My rule is to never put a piece of clothing into a box and put it somewhere for a season – even though I live in a 4 season area. My entire wardrobe lives on one rack, and that give me a sense of control over what the entire collection looks like, and makes it easier to make decisions.
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I am anti-clothes. I would wear a white tee shirt and leggings everyday. I like nice undies, tho.
My clothes sources are a group of fabulous thrift shops and consignment stores in my area. New with tags lined wool pants by a famous maker for $1.50? You know I want those!
As I think about my second career, I zero in on one with a uniform or scrubs.
Paris Hilton can have all the designer stuff.
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So my philosophy of clothing shopping is that there are things where quality really matters and things where quality matters less.
Things I’m willing to spend extra on to get exactly what I want in a form that should be durable:
* my “level 2″ winter coat (i.e. the one I wear most of the time in winter here)
* my everyday handbag
* my everyday shoes/sandals (usually one pair of sandals I reach for most often in summer, and one pair of durable black flats that are my default pair for the rest of the year)
* my everyday bras
* snow boots, for both me and the kiddo
I start keeping an eye out for sales on those items as soon as it becomes clear I’m going to need a replacement soonish. I don’t necessarily go super expensive on them, but I want those things to last for a very long time, because I know I can’t just go without them, I’ll use them an awful lot, and because those are things where I’ve found buying high-quality makes a difference (unlike, say, pantyhose or T-shirts). I’m likely to start needing more professional-type work attire in the next few years, so I will probably put one black and one charcoal suiting set in this category, because I’ll be able to mix and match those with anything.
Other stuff I’m more than happy to go to a consignment store and be choosy about what’s available, or to go somewhere inexpensive. Kids’ clothes in our house are mostly hand-me-downs supplemented with consignment & sale finds. I’d probably shop for kids stuff differently if I had several kids to pass things down through, however — still using hand-me-downs and whatnot but sticking to brands like Hanna Andersson that wear like iron for new.
The only major clothing expense I’m likely to have this year is a good pair of hiking boots — I’ve been getting by with sneakers for day hiking but hiking is something we’re looking to do a lot more of this year.
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Wow, your list pretty much exactly matches mine! I do tend to spend more money on my cold weather gear and other accessories because they make life easier. The pants/tops are far more disposable than a good pair of waterproof boots, shoes, a good bag, and a good set of coats (I have 3 levels, all of which I’ve spent some money on but have lasted for several years)
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I have three levels of coats also! It only gets crazy here once or twice a year, though, so I think my level 3 (which someone gave me, yay!) will last pretty much forever.
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I could probably toss 2/3 of my wardrobe into the collection bin because they’re somewhat worn out over the years and/or one size too small. I haven’t yet because – and this is cliche – I plan to lose a few pounds to fit into them again.
Historically, I’ve done well with donating clothes that I no longer wear whether or not they fit me. The ones I hold onto are sentimental to me and are extremely comfortable articles that I hope to be able to wear once more.
I have about two weeks worth of clean, comfortable & well-fitting clothes that get shuffled until laundry day. When’s that? As soon as I’m about to run out of clean socks and undies.
For formal wear I have: one suit, a few pairs of slacks, many ties, a couple of belts and a some dress shirts.
Living in New England, I also have a heavy coat, a waterproof 3-in-1 shell, two lighter jackets, a rain jacket and three insulated vests. Add gloves and hats to the mix.
I had over 30 pairs of shoes until I downsized to about 8 pairs.
I’m torn because I want to buy new clothes, but not until I reach my goal weight. Do they make extra medium?
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Our family is on a one salary income, in a 4 season climate, with an hour to the second hand store. We have an ongoing clear recycling bag for clothes that our 3 children outgrow (if a sibling does not fit nor want) and they have learned to sort this themselves. Twice a year we go to the second hand stores (eg. church basement sale, Amity, Salvation Army) and top up the wardrobe of each person in the family, while handing in our clear bag of out grown clothes. When one hands in clothes, a 30% discount is given to us for our purchases in one store. The nice thing is, you can buy clothes to paint in, or brand new clothes that the store has just received as overstock from somewhere else. It works. A visit has never cost us more than $200.00 for 5 , and usually costs around $125.00. We aim for enough clothes to last 7 days, as we are on smart metering for electricity and only do laundry on weekends. Our children have never had comments on looking anything other than in sync with the rest of their classmates. It is also alot of fun to see what is there, and how a person can jazz up an outfit!!
Hope that helps!!
Antoinette in Canada
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This year has been weird for me because I started a new job where I have to dress more professionally. I’d say I’ve spent about $150 at the start of each season buying essentials. $150 buys me a lot of clothes because I tend to do most of my shopping at stores like Ross or hitting up factory outlets during big sales (my favorite is when the entire Anne Taylor store–including clearance–is 50% off). Now that I have a wardrobe in place, I think I’ll see a significant decline in my clothes budget this year.
My husband is a minimalist and only buys clothes when forced. I probably spent $200 total on him last year, and half of that was one a nice slacks/shirt/sweater combo for my Christmas party. This was a good investment, though, because he’ll be looking for a new job this year and now has a great interview outfit.
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We live in an old home. I have a single armoire for my clothes, so I need to be ruthless in my wardrobe (I’m not a clothes horse so doesn’t bother me). Same thing with my 2 kids; they each have an armoire for their clothes, and a bin for their shoes, and that’s it. I have to constantly review what is in their wardrobe, to cull the items that don’t fit, or they no longer wear. My oldest is fine, because she basically lives in a few favorite outfits, and doesn’t really care about clothes. My youngest I fear, will end up with a walk in closet with emelda marcos shoe section when she grows up; her wardrobe is stuffed but doesn’t want to get rid of anything, and simply LOVES clothes.
but- I have to say- 55 tshirts is insane. My husband has about 2 dozen tshirts (less now since he has since culled) but even that I thought was excessive.
I actually used to do more thrift shopping when I was in my 20′s than now. I just don’t have the time to go to multiple places to shop, and usually just have 1 or 2 specific items I’m looking for (for example, oldest kid needs a zip up hoodie, and new pair of sneakers). I don’t have room for fun or experimental items. Until the kids want to shop for clothes for fun, thrift shopping is a relatively rare event in our household (because it takes up too much time, no guarantee will find what need).
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I get all my granddaughters clothing on freecycle and most of mine. Sometimes I get them in thrift shops or on clearance at stores. I share what I can’t use or what she has outgrown with other people. It is a win win situation.
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My wardrobe follows a few rules, which keep it cheap and stylish. Here are the short versions of my rules:
Buy classic styles, as they will be in style for many years to come. Buy clothing that matches as much of your other clothing as possible, to allow for fewer overall garments. Buy quality clothing, not quantity, so you don’t have to constantly buy new clothing when your old wears out. Take care of your clothing – be gentle with it. Buy clothing a bit more plain – nobody cares if you wear a white dress shirt every day, but just try that with a red paisley shirt…
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I spend next to nothing on clothes, but that’s not really the point here. The point is clutter, right? *Guilty*!
While I never go shopping for clothes, my girlfriends go shopping all the time, and I am blessed to get all their hand-me-downs… Some of which were never even worn! Unfortunately, I’m a bit of a clothes hoarder because I get hung up on the idea that I MIGHT wear this– It’s really terrible! I’m sure I have clothes that I haven’t worn in years, and clothes that don’t fit, but still I hang onto them.
I do purge my closet every three months or so, and I try to donate anything that I haven’t worn in the past year. Of course, there are some clothes that I just can’t bear to part with, so I promise myself that I’ll wear the item before the next purge. And then I make the same promise the next time I purge. And so on– Which is why I have some clothes that I never wear and/or don’t fit.
My boyfriend, on the other hand, has two pair of jeans– his beat-up jeans and his nice jeans– one suit (he wears the slacks without the jacket for medium-dressy events), and about six t-shirts. What an awesome clothing role model!
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I have very similar problems. I hardly ever buy my own clothes, but get hand-me-downs from friends. I have trouble parting with many of them because they are high quality clothes, even if they aren’t something I’d like to wear. I’m trying to get more ruthless about weeding out things I just don’t or won’t wear, but it’s tough. I’m also about to graduate and start my career where I will need nicer clothes – I currently wear jeans and t-shirts most days as a student, so I don’t get rid of things for fear I “might need that someday.”
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“Women can get by with black pants, a black skirt, some tops and sweaters.”
“The wildcard that can send a wardrobe into overdrive is fashion. If you must have a few pieces that have been featured in the pages of InStyle or GQ, you’re going to be adding clothes to your wardrobe regularly. And just like that, they’re obsolete, as far as fashion is concerned!”
I take gentle issue with both of these statements. “Fashion” is not the same as “fads.” And black is not the only neutral! Fashion is about your own sense of style, which develops (hopefully) over a lifetime. Personally, I make it a point to buy black as rarely as possible and expand my horizons. A Frenchman once told me that “in Paris, red shoes are considered neutral. Red goes with everything.” That always stuck with me.
I can’t wait to read more about the French Wardrobe system mentioned above, I’ve been moving towards something similar over the past few years.
I’m not someone who has a boatload of clothes, by the way. (I know it’s all relative, but for reference, I have three pair of jeans, 12 pair of shoes including all seasons and workout shoes.). I try to buy things that are well-made, not faddish, and that I really love to wear. That sometimes means paying more, but it works out to less per year. We all have bad hair days or weeks where we aren’t exactly at our “fighting weight” (holidays, anyone?) — being able to put on an outfit that makes me feel confident pays dividends personally as well as professionally.
I’ve also had really good luck beefing up my accessories to bridge seasons and develop my fashion sense.
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Speaking of French, here are couple of great links relating to this thread:
http://www.theviviennefiles.blogspot.com
http://afemmeduncertainage.blogspot.com
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First, I only replace clothes that I have worn out! My wardrobe is completely interchangeable. That way my wardrobe is more flexible and bigger with less items.
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I do have a fair amount of clothes (not a lot, just fair), but most of what I have are classic pieces that I’ve had for a while. When I went for a size 16 to a 4/6 I had to completely revamp my wardrobe and that took a few years since I didn’t to be buy the cheapest items possible. I’ve that mistake in the past and most of the items didn’t last more than a year.
I work from home, but I do go out often and I’m not as casual as the average Portlander -you’ll never, ever see me in tennis shoes unless I’m at the gym. T-shirts are for yard work (for me) and so on.
I also work out most days of the week so I have quite a collection of exercise gear since they have to be washed after each use. Though my gear gets a lot of use, they do last a very long time, especially when I buy premium brands (i.e. Patagonia, Nike, etc).
Bras can take a bite out of a clothing budget if you’re a bit larger (and a woman, LOL). I’m not super large in that area but I find it is harder to find comfortable, supportive bras in a 36DD cup than if I was a B cup from places like Ross. For that reason I tend to buy my bras from department stores and from the individual brands online on clearance. It still costs about $100+ per year though.
In terms of shoes I take certain ones to a cobbler to get the most use and life out of them.
I track my clothing budget and purchases on Mint.com.
I don’t have kids.
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I don’t have a crazy huge wardrobe, but I’m not a minimalist either. My office is on the casual side of business casual, so dress pants and a sweater (long or short sleeve depending on the season) is what I usually wear. I have enough to wear a different pair of pants each day of the week, and a different top for two weeks in a row. For my kids, though, it’s crazy. My sister gives me all of her son’s hand-me-downs, and two generous grandmothers, so my boys have tons of clothes. I keep everything we get, as we have plenty of storage space, and when my younger son outgrows it I keep a few things (I think we are done with kids, but you never know!) and pass along everything I don’t really like on them. I have probably spent less than $100 total on clothes for them — one is 2, the other is 4.
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I have two boys and I probably have it pretty easy. My older one just turned 18 and is on his own. He and I would go to PacSun for school clothes. They always has ridiculous sales and we got enough stuff to last all year. He loved expensive shoes, so I would give him what I felt was reasonable for shoes and he would fill in the rest to get the crazy overpriced ones he wanted. He probably had, at any given time, 5 pair of jeans, 8 t-shirts, a hoodie, a coat and 5 or 6 pairs of shoes. Don’t get me started on all his hunting gear, though. Camo coveralls, boots, jackets, gloves, waders…
My younger boy is 13 and doesn’t really care what he wears. He generally gets attached to a few of his t-shirts and I have to demand that he give them up when they get way too small. He outgrows pants like crazy, so there’s a lot of turnover. That means around 6 or 7 pair at a time (half thanks to gifts). He does his own laundry and tends to wear jeans twice before washing and everything else just once, except for jammies. He also has a hoodie, a coat and a new pair of winter boots every year.
We live in a 4 season climate, but the kids just wear long sleeved t-shirts under their coats. I wear tons of layers cause I get COLD. I have an armoire instead of a closet. One side is business clothes, shoes, light jacket, winter coat. The other side is everyday clothes. I don’t really have storage space, so it’s sleeveless, short-sleeved, long-sleeved, sweaters, cardigans, jacket, heavy coat, hoodie and jeans. I have two pair of yoga pants, one for summer jammies and one for winter jammies. My jammie tops are any comfortable shirts that got stains or little holes.
I’ve also been gaining weight steadily for the last 3 or 4 years. This has caused an overabundance of clothes as I tell myself I’ll lose the weight and get back into the last size. I finally realized I’m a size 12 and got rid of (almost) everything that doesn’t fit. I couldn’t part with my Monkees or Hello Kitty shirts.
I don’t often wear t-shirts, but I make things out of them as a hobby, so I have probably 50 or more on their own shelving.
I do that trick where all the clothing you’ve washed (and therefore presumably worn) gets hung up on one end of the closet or put in one side of a drawer. So, eventually, everything on the other side has been identified as being unworn. I get rid of those things a couple times a year, usually as the seasons change or my closet gets full.
Aside from business clothes, I generally shop at the thrift store. When I get rid of clothes, they either get donated or thrown, depending on the condition.
Oh, shoes! I didn’t talk much about shoes. I have business shoes: 1 black, 1 tan, 1 multicolored. Then I have other shoes: 1 western boots with the soles worn all the way through to my socks! 1 black high-heeled boots (need replacing), 1 brown high-heeled boots, 2 pair flats, 1 pair of sandals with heels, winter boots.
We also have a wicker basket full of misc winter stuff: gloves, mittens, hats, scarves, a ski mask. Frankly a lot of our possessions are clothes but I don’t think it’s excessive.
Oh yeah, my cat has a t-shirt he NEVER wears.
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I know this doesn’t add to the discussion but I was wondering if Adrian really can be a women’s name. I’ve only ever seen it used as a men’s name.
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I’ve only seen it spelled “Adrian” for men. The female spelling is usually Adrienne, Adrianne, Adriane or Aidrian.
Yes, there are women with that name.
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Yes, it can be a woman’s name too. That’s just the spelling my Mom preferred. But it does get confusing and I get lots of mail address to “Mr”. I usually use a pretty, girly font in my signature block to give people a subtle hint.
Honestly, I had totally forgotten about this comment, so I was very surprised and quite tickled to see this post today.
I’m not quite sure how he ended up with so darn many t-shirts. Some of them were freebies from camp and stuff, some were hand-me-downs from his brothers, and a lot of them were just cool (and inexpensive) graphic tees that he either begged for, or that I knew he would love. He’s a bit on the nerdy side, so I try to give him a few style points by getting him shirts with guitars, skulls, dragons, or classic rock themes. He loves them and so did his brothers when they were this age.
But it is a lot for him to manage. I think we probably need to do a little bit more weeding out.
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You never saw Rocky?
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