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	<title>Comments on: Party philosophy: When to spend big on fiestas</title>
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		<title>By: @pfinMario</title>
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		<dc:creator>@pfinMario</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2013 13:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I dislike about these posts is that it takes as a given that the tangible ceremony absolutely must accompany the celebration and then the frugality starts there.

What I would like to see is an honest assessment of whether it&#039;s possible to separate the ceremony from the celebration. If I had a significant other, I&#039;d love for her to wake up on the morning of my birthday, give me a firm handshake, and say, &quot;Let&#039;s continue paying down your student loans.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I dislike about these posts is that it takes as a given that the tangible ceremony absolutely must accompany the celebration and then the frugality starts there.</p>
<p>What I would like to see is an honest assessment of whether it&#8217;s possible to separate the ceremony from the celebration. If I had a significant other, I&#8217;d love for her to wake up on the morning of my birthday, give me a firm handshake, and say, &#8220;Let&#8217;s continue paying down your student loans.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Mom of 1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mom of 1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2013 07:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My only child (a daughter) is now age 18. Every year for her birthday, we enjoyed dinner out and gifts from immediate family only (very small family). In addition, we celebrated special years as follows:
Age 1: Extended family party at home
Age 6: Eight children for pizza and tokens at a game room
Age 8: Immediate Family for a two night stay at a state park cabin 
Age 10: Pizza and Cake for her soccer team at the park shelter after a game
Age 13: Invited 2 friends for a 1 night stay at an indoor water park. 
Age 16: Concert tickets for daughter and a friend
Age 18: Limo ride, a stop for pictures, and dinner for daughter and 15 friends - happened that daughter&#039;s birthday fell on Homecoming Weekend, so all were dressed semi-formal for the occassion. 
Daughter&#039;s birthday was always celebrated - just not in an extreme (or expensive) way each year. This plan worked for us and provided us with good balance in regard to finances, time in planning/executing and memories.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My only child (a daughter) is now age 18. Every year for her birthday, we enjoyed dinner out and gifts from immediate family only (very small family). In addition, we celebrated special years as follows:<br />
Age 1: Extended family party at home<br />
Age 6: Eight children for pizza and tokens at a game room<br />
Age 8: Immediate Family for a two night stay at a state park cabin<br />
Age 10: Pizza and Cake for her soccer team at the park shelter after a game<br />
Age 13: Invited 2 friends for a 1 night stay at an indoor water park.<br />
Age 16: Concert tickets for daughter and a friend<br />
Age 18: Limo ride, a stop for pictures, and dinner for daughter and 15 friends &#8211; happened that daughter&#8217;s birthday fell on Homecoming Weekend, so all were dressed semi-formal for the occassion.<br />
Daughter&#8217;s birthday was always celebrated &#8211; just not in an extreme (or expensive) way each year. This plan worked for us and provided us with good balance in regard to finances, time in planning/executing and memories.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Sr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Sr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2013 13:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Allow me to put forth a different perspective. I moved to the continental US from an island about 12 years ago.

For a &#039;party&#039; as I&#039;ve seen here, these points are valid and I agree for the most part with all of them.

Where I come from though, parties are not &#039;parties&#039; as defined in the US. I can relate to the Quinceañera - it&#039;s not just a party for a girl becoming a woman, it&#039;s an opportunity to gather friends and family together for a celebration. The socializing that occurs where cousins play with cousins and get to understand who is in their family, what their culture is, and rites of passage are just as important.

&#039;Parties&#039; in the US appear to me to be mostly about getting together, eating, possibly drinking and buying presents. Then &#039;time to go!&#039;

Parties for me (which I&#039;ve been known to spend hundreds on and some family members thousands) revolve around the people who attend.

With my kids and their birthdays, we used to have two parties. A cake and ice cream party for the classmates then a larger celebration with family and friends. The tone of the two parties were much different even though we were celebrating the same event.

My point is not to say one is right or one is wrong. We understand the different cultures and plan appropriately. By all means, please celebrate (or not :) ) as you wish.

My point is to ask you to please consider another point of view of a &#039;party&#039;. My culture does not just view it as &#039;cake, ice cream and presents&#039;, my culture views it as an opportunity to connect with the people, culture and traditions that are important to us. To show my children the importance of family and understanding their roots. To allow my children to learn to and show respect to their elders. To pass on my values by showing them, not just telling.

Flame suit is one, fire away :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Allow me to put forth a different perspective. I moved to the continental US from an island about 12 years ago.</p>
<p>For a &#8216;party&#8217; as I&#8217;ve seen here, these points are valid and I agree for the most part with all of them.</p>
<p>Where I come from though, parties are not &#8216;parties&#8217; as defined in the US. I can relate to the Quinceañera &#8211; it&#8217;s not just a party for a girl becoming a woman, it&#8217;s an opportunity to gather friends and family together for a celebration. The socializing that occurs where cousins play with cousins and get to understand who is in their family, what their culture is, and rites of passage are just as important.</p>
<p>&#8216;Parties&#8217; in the US appear to me to be mostly about getting together, eating, possibly drinking and buying presents. Then &#8216;time to go!&#8217;</p>
<p>Parties for me (which I&#8217;ve been known to spend hundreds on and some family members thousands) revolve around the people who attend.</p>
<p>With my kids and their birthdays, we used to have two parties. A cake and ice cream party for the classmates then a larger celebration with family and friends. The tone of the two parties were much different even though we were celebrating the same event.</p>
<p>My point is not to say one is right or one is wrong. We understand the different cultures and plan appropriately. By all means, please celebrate (or not <img src='http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  ) as you wish.</p>
<p>My point is to ask you to please consider another point of view of a &#8216;party&#8217;. My culture does not just view it as &#8216;cake, ice cream and presents&#8217;, my culture views it as an opportunity to connect with the people, culture and traditions that are important to us. To show my children the importance of family and understanding their roots. To allow my children to learn to and show respect to their elders. To pass on my values by showing them, not just telling.</p>
<p>Flame suit is one, fire away <img src='http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Mobley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timothy Mobley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 22:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely agree with all your points. It is especially important to try and remember what the party is all about - being with loved ones, having fun etc. And going into debt for a party seems extreme yet so many people do it, I love the potluck idea you suggest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree with all your points. It is especially important to try and remember what the party is all about &#8211; being with loved ones, having fun etc. And going into debt for a party seems extreme yet so many people do it, I love the potluck idea you suggest.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly@Financial-Lessons</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelly@Financial-Lessons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 20:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very good tips for gauging when its appropriate to spend a lot of money on a party. Yes, cultural milestones cost more money because its about the community, but you&#039;re right when you say you basically have the child&#039;s whole life to save up for that day. I don&#039;t think it&#039;s every okay to put a large amount of debt on a credit card for one night that you&#039;ll most likely spend a long time paying off. Cost vs. benefit in that situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good tips for gauging when its appropriate to spend a lot of money on a party. Yes, cultural milestones cost more money because its about the community, but you&#8217;re right when you say you basically have the child&#8217;s whole life to save up for that day. I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s every okay to put a large amount of debt on a credit card for one night that you&#8217;ll most likely spend a long time paying off. Cost vs. benefit in that situation.</p>
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		<title>By: Paularado</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paularado</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 19:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love coming up with a theme.  We also invited the entire class to our home for a Pirate Princess party.  It was great and we met so many people that we&#039;re still friends with.  

My husband made a &quot;pirate cave&quot; out of trees that were killed by pine beetles.  We created a treasure map and went on a treasure hunt through our woods.  Of course, there was a treasure box at the end.  It was awesome.  

I really love coming up with themes.  My 5 yo daughter loves the music to the opera Carmen, so I&#039;m thinking about an Opera party in a year or so.  There is an opera house near us...so that really gets my mind going.  We always have so much fun at the party...but like Jane&#039;s BIL mentioned above, there is also adult beverages for the grown ups too.  We do the kid party and then transition into adult party.  Everybody&#039;s happy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love coming up with a theme.  We also invited the entire class to our home for a Pirate Princess party.  It was great and we met so many people that we&#8217;re still friends with.  </p>
<p>My husband made a &#8220;pirate cave&#8221; out of trees that were killed by pine beetles.  We created a treasure map and went on a treasure hunt through our woods.  Of course, there was a treasure box at the end.  It was awesome.  </p>
<p>I really love coming up with themes.  My 5 yo daughter loves the music to the opera Carmen, so I&#8217;m thinking about an Opera party in a year or so.  There is an opera house near us&#8230;so that really gets my mind going.  We always have so much fun at the party&#8230;but like Jane&#8217;s BIL mentioned above, there is also adult beverages for the grown ups too.  We do the kid party and then transition into adult party.  Everybody&#8217;s happy!</p>
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		<title>By: BFAPMom</title>
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		<dc:creator>BFAPMom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 09:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There may be a method to the madness for larger parties. If one&#039;s social circle is fast paced or time crunched (esp with young children) these parties may be the few chances to have a party of any sort. 

As for inviting all the kids in a class, some parents are hyper aware of the dangers of appearing to exclude other kids/families. And maybe they would like to get to know the parents of the kids their child hangs out with all day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There may be a method to the madness for larger parties. If one&#8217;s social circle is fast paced or time crunched (esp with young children) these parties may be the few chances to have a party of any sort. </p>
<p>As for inviting all the kids in a class, some parents are hyper aware of the dangers of appearing to exclude other kids/families. And maybe they would like to get to know the parents of the kids their child hangs out with all day.</p>
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		<title>By: Diane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 22:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love this post as it is one of the well-balanced of considerations.  Love love love the &quot;party for a cause.&quot;  Call around to local nonprofits and you would be surprised how many will provide a free birthday part in exchange for a donation.  Our local food bank throws awesome parties where kids get to help sort and package food.  The cooking class will bake the cake and all of the party decorations are donated.  The cost?  They just ask that each guest bring 10 canned items.  At the end, they reveal to the kids how many meals they have provided for others.  Best. Parties. Ever!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love this post as it is one of the well-balanced of considerations.  Love love love the &#8220;party for a cause.&#8221;  Call around to local nonprofits and you would be surprised how many will provide a free birthday part in exchange for a donation.  Our local food bank throws awesome parties where kids get to help sort and package food.  The cooking class will bake the cake and all of the party decorations are donated.  The cost?  They just ask that each guest bring 10 canned items.  At the end, they reveal to the kids how many meals they have provided for others.  Best. Parties. Ever!!</p>
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		<title>By: Lea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 17:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A cake, ice cream and some kids is how I think most parties should be, although the occasional skating rink/gymnastics/whatever theme party is a nice change. You don&#039;t need those every year, but every once in a while (if the family can afford it) is fun. 

We still have birthday parties for just about everybody, grownups included, in my family. It&#039;s an excuse to get together regularly and to have a little cake. Works for us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A cake, ice cream and some kids is how I think most parties should be, although the occasional skating rink/gymnastics/whatever theme party is a nice change. You don&#8217;t need those every year, but every once in a while (if the family can afford it) is fun. </p>
<p>We still have birthday parties for just about everybody, grownups included, in my family. It&#8217;s an excuse to get together regularly and to have a little cake. Works for us.</p>
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		<title>By: Wm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 12:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m from a family that isn&#039;t big on parties. But when I moved to a different place for my higher education, I realized that people found it weird that I wasn&#039;t keen on attending or hosting parties. And let me tell you, being different in a weird way is not a good way to fit in. And so, here I am, after several experiences and criticisms, agreeing to the fact that occasional partying is a way of life and sometimes, I find them enjoyable too. But I second the opinion that it&#039;s just not worth it to burn a huge hole in your wallet to make a party a success. Simple parties can be elegant and memorable too. Sure, grander occasions call for more expensive parties than the norm, but the term &quot;expensive&quot; is relative and abstract, and it&#039;s up to that particular person to decide what &quot;expensive&quot; is equivalent to for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m from a family that isn&#8217;t big on parties. But when I moved to a different place for my higher education, I realized that people found it weird that I wasn&#8217;t keen on attending or hosting parties. And let me tell you, being different in a weird way is not a good way to fit in. And so, here I am, after several experiences and criticisms, agreeing to the fact that occasional partying is a way of life and sometimes, I find them enjoyable too. But I second the opinion that it&#8217;s just not worth it to burn a huge hole in your wallet to make a party a success. Simple parties can be elegant and memorable too. Sure, grander occasions call for more expensive parties than the norm, but the term &#8220;expensive&#8221; is relative and abstract, and it&#8217;s up to that particular person to decide what &#8220;expensive&#8221; is equivalent to for them.</p>
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		<title>By: treousa</title>
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		<dc:creator>treousa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 11:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amy, we are open to pivot later on, this is certainly not set in stone.
My wife and I strongly believe that children are situational learners, if you live a certain lifestyle, there is a very strong chance that your children will embrace this lifestyle, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amy, we are open to pivot later on, this is certainly not set in stone.<br />
My wife and I strongly believe that children are situational learners, if you live a certain lifestyle, there is a very strong chance that your children will embrace this lifestyle, too.</p>
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		<title>By: elena</title>
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		<dc:creator>elena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 04:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Throwing a great party is on my bucket list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Throwing a great party is on my bucket list.</p>
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		<title>By: Rosa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rosa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 01:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t really comment on religious events like bar mitzvahs, or religious weddings, or even children&#039;s parties.  My husband &amp; I are atheists, without children.  We also have virtually no family. But for our wedding, we got married on our balcony, attended by 4 friends, went out for the evening, etc.  The whole thing, including rings, new outfit, etc. cost $500.  We have been married nearly 22 years.  The amortized cost is looking better every year.  And no, it wasn&#039;t fancy.  But it satisfied us, &amp; I honestly believe that the wedding is not what&#039;s important - it&#039;s the marriage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t really comment on religious events like bar mitzvahs, or religious weddings, or even children&#8217;s parties.  My husband &amp; I are atheists, without children.  We also have virtually no family. But for our wedding, we got married on our balcony, attended by 4 friends, went out for the evening, etc.  The whole thing, including rings, new outfit, etc. cost $500.  We have been married nearly 22 years.  The amortized cost is looking better every year.  And no, it wasn&#8217;t fancy.  But it satisfied us, &amp; I honestly believe that the wedding is not what&#8217;s important &#8211; it&#8217;s the marriage.</p>
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		<title>By: Teinegurl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teinegurl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 01:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Hawaii, Baby&#039;s 1st Luau is  a big thing. The culture or custom was that in the olden days a lot of infants didn&#039;t survive the first year so it was to be celebrated. A lot of families usually have this as the biggest birthday party until maybe sweet 16. Some can be really extragevent too! Goodies bags, clowns, bouncy house, face painting, dj, custom banners and invitations, decorations but usually a lot of family members can help out with the expense grandparents, aunt , uncle, godparents and contribute that instead of a gift. 

I&#039;ve had a big 1st birthday for my son. But not with my daughter. Some years i just took them out to eat dinner with my family very small. For the past years that they are older and can remember more and contribute their ideas i&#039;ve had bigger parties. I honestly missed having the big parties. I live very frugally and it&#039;s nice to me to see my child(ren) have the spotlight for one day out of the year. Both of their parties didnt cost more than $500 including food and with my son i combined with a friend since our son&#039;s birthday&#039;s are a week apart instead of having two parties. All the games were our ideas and little prizes were brought throughout the year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Hawaii, Baby&#8217;s 1st Luau is  a big thing. The culture or custom was that in the olden days a lot of infants didn&#8217;t survive the first year so it was to be celebrated. A lot of families usually have this as the biggest birthday party until maybe sweet 16. Some can be really extragevent too! Goodies bags, clowns, bouncy house, face painting, dj, custom banners and invitations, decorations but usually a lot of family members can help out with the expense grandparents, aunt , uncle, godparents and contribute that instead of a gift. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve had a big 1st birthday for my son. But not with my daughter. Some years i just took them out to eat dinner with my family very small. For the past years that they are older and can remember more and contribute their ideas i&#8217;ve had bigger parties. I honestly missed having the big parties. I live very frugally and it&#8217;s nice to me to see my child(ren) have the spotlight for one day out of the year. Both of their parties didnt cost more than $500 including food and with my son i combined with a friend since our son&#8217;s birthday&#8217;s are a week apart instead of having two parties. All the games were our ideas and little prizes were brought throughout the year.</p>
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		<title>By: AMW</title>
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		<dc:creator>AMW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 00:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GO FOR IT!  Celebrate your accomplishment!  Maybe you&#039;ll be an inspiration!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GO FOR IT!  Celebrate your accomplishment!  Maybe you&#8217;ll be an inspiration!</p>
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		<title>By: MelodyO</title>
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		<dc:creator>MelodyO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 23:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>::has a heart attack and expires on the spot::</description>
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		<title>By: Stephanie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 22:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My kids get invited to a TON of birthday parties and I decline the majority of the invites just due to the expense of taking a present to all of these parties - not even counting all of the time that these parties entail. Plus, each of these lavish parties that they attend sets the expectations that high for my kids. We&#039;re more of the have a couple of friends over for a sleepover and make pizzas crowd. They for sure ask to have more elaborate parties but right now accept something a little more low key. Thankfully. I do try to make it memorable and fun for them without spending a fortune.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My kids get invited to a TON of birthday parties and I decline the majority of the invites just due to the expense of taking a present to all of these parties &#8211; not even counting all of the time that these parties entail. Plus, each of these lavish parties that they attend sets the expectations that high for my kids. We&#8217;re more of the have a couple of friends over for a sleepover and make pizzas crowd. They for sure ask to have more elaborate parties but right now accept something a little more low key. Thankfully. I do try to make it memorable and fun for them without spending a fortune.</p>
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		<title>By: partgypsy</title>
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		<dc:creator>partgypsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 20:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Parties are personal, and everyone varies how much they get &quot;out&quot; of parties. Maybe some people would rate our kid&#039;s birthday parties as being on the &quot;much&quot; side. I think if you are going to have a birthday party you should provide cake AND food. We like to either have the party at a place (chuck e cheese, bowling alley) or book some kind of event (magician, a puppet show, a band we know). Though we spend more in the 200-300 range for some of the birthdays, not only did the birthday kid have a blast, they are great memories and also a way to keep in touch with parents who we feel we have grown up with along with our kids. But it doesn&#039;t last long. Our oldest at 10 opted for a sleep over with 3 friends for her last party. But I still have great memories of planning those parties and the various surprises that went with them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Parties are personal, and everyone varies how much they get &#8220;out&#8221; of parties. Maybe some people would rate our kid&#8217;s birthday parties as being on the &#8220;much&#8221; side. I think if you are going to have a birthday party you should provide cake AND food. We like to either have the party at a place (chuck e cheese, bowling alley) or book some kind of event (magician, a puppet show, a band we know). Though we spend more in the 200-300 range for some of the birthdays, not only did the birthday kid have a blast, they are great memories and also a way to keep in touch with parents who we feel we have grown up with along with our kids. But it doesn&#8217;t last long. Our oldest at 10 opted for a sleep over with 3 friends for her last party. But I still have great memories of planning those parties and the various surprises that went with them.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elizabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 19:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m of two minds about this one. I have a friend who didn&#039;t celebrate her college graduation with her extended family because many of them didn&#039;t get to go to college. If we stopped celebrating milestones and goals just because our friends and family don&#039;t have them, what would be left to celebrate? (I&#039;m certainly glad my friends continue to invite me to wedding, baby showers and kids&#039; birthday parties even though I&#039;m still single!)

That being said, I can see how a mortgage-burning party might be off-putting for some people. I think it really depends on the relationships people have with their friends and family. Celebrating with like-minded individuals sounds like good advice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m of two minds about this one. I have a friend who didn&#8217;t celebrate her college graduation with her extended family because many of them didn&#8217;t get to go to college. If we stopped celebrating milestones and goals just because our friends and family don&#8217;t have them, what would be left to celebrate? (I&#8217;m certainly glad my friends continue to invite me to wedding, baby showers and kids&#8217; birthday parties even though I&#8217;m still single!)</p>
<p>That being said, I can see how a mortgage-burning party might be off-putting for some people. I think it really depends on the relationships people have with their friends and family. Celebrating with like-minded individuals sounds like good advice.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elizabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 19:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t remember everything my family did with me and my siblings when we were little -- but I LOVE seeing the pictures and hearing the stories! It&#039;s a bonding experience all these years later.

I really hate it when people apply the &quot;they won&#039;t remember, so why bother?&quot; logic to people who are suffering from Alzheimer&#039;s or dementia. We do things because it improves people&#039;s quality of life and adds richness, and also because it brings the people around the person closer together as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t remember everything my family did with me and my siblings when we were little &#8212; but I LOVE seeing the pictures and hearing the stories! It&#8217;s a bonding experience all these years later.</p>
<p>I really hate it when people apply the &#8220;they won&#8217;t remember, so why bother?&#8221; logic to people who are suffering from Alzheimer&#8217;s or dementia. We do things because it improves people&#8217;s quality of life and adds richness, and also because it brings the people around the person closer together as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Meredith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meredith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 19:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can tell you a lot of it is peer pressure.  When I was a kid (don&#039;t I sound old and crotchety? :-) ), I remember some birthday parties at the local MacDonalds and also many home parties with pizza and cake.

When I became a parent, I had a party for his first birthday not so much for him as for us.  I bought a lot of food at Costco and invited some friends who had kids and it was fun.  At the end of the party, one woman asked me where the goody bags were.  I had to ask her what they were, I had never heard of them.

At her son&#039;s first birthday party, a week later, I saw one first hand - it was filled with a stuffed animal, a book, and a personalized sippy cup.

Every single birthday party my two kids have been invited to has provided a goody bag.  90% of them are at some place that offers some sort of entertainment - whether it be bouncy house or a kid&#039;s gym or a clown, etc.  Each party serves a meal in addition to cake.  I think the smallest party has been 10 kids.

Our house is small.  We had one round of parties at our place but with the young kids comes the parents meaning if you think you can invite 6 kids, you are getting 18 people in your home.

So this is why we started to have the $300 parties outside of the home.

Trust me, I hate it every year and I count down to the promised times when parents will drop off the kid and not stay so we can have a home party (when does this happen?  10?)

I save up to make sure I don&#039;t go into debt for the parties but to be honest, I am not sure how to stop the cycle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can tell you a lot of it is peer pressure.  When I was a kid (don&#8217;t I sound old and crotchety? <img src='http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  ), I remember some birthday parties at the local MacDonalds and also many home parties with pizza and cake.</p>
<p>When I became a parent, I had a party for his first birthday not so much for him as for us.  I bought a lot of food at Costco and invited some friends who had kids and it was fun.  At the end of the party, one woman asked me where the goody bags were.  I had to ask her what they were, I had never heard of them.</p>
<p>At her son&#8217;s first birthday party, a week later, I saw one first hand &#8211; it was filled with a stuffed animal, a book, and a personalized sippy cup.</p>
<p>Every single birthday party my two kids have been invited to has provided a goody bag.  90% of them are at some place that offers some sort of entertainment &#8211; whether it be bouncy house or a kid&#8217;s gym or a clown, etc.  Each party serves a meal in addition to cake.  I think the smallest party has been 10 kids.</p>
<p>Our house is small.  We had one round of parties at our place but with the young kids comes the parents meaning if you think you can invite 6 kids, you are getting 18 people in your home.</p>
<p>So this is why we started to have the $300 parties outside of the home.</p>
<p>Trust me, I hate it every year and I count down to the promised times when parents will drop off the kid and not stay so we can have a home party (when does this happen?  10?)</p>
<p>I save up to make sure I don&#8217;t go into debt for the parties but to be honest, I am not sure how to stop the cycle.</p>
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		<title>By: Ivy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ivy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 18:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My older one is 4.5 and so far we&#039;ve avoided the &quot;American&quot; kid birthdays for both her and our 2-year old. We usually invite their friends from our (immigrant) community, together with their parents (our friends) and we don&#039;t go big on decorating, aside from me making a nice themed cake. So it may be a big party numbers-wise but not wild and on the cheap side. The kids don&#039;t do formal activities, they just run around the house and backyard and entertain themselves most of the time.
However this year we&#039;ll have to join the crowd for her 5th birthday. She has been invited to a lot of parties from her preschool friends, they are all done in kids activities places, and usually for a group of 10-20 kids. Peer pressure is quite real, and I would feel uncomfortable not to invite them this time at least. However, I don&#039;t see myself entertaining a group of American preschoolers, expecting games, organized fun and whatever not. And wondering how to entertain the parents at the same time, or if we offer drop off, wondering whether we&#039;ll run into a liability problem if some kid happens to fall (the stories we&#039;ve heard here are just scary). So for me the piece of mind is quite worth the expense of renting a place, even if it ends up $200 or so.
Otherwise this is a good article and I do agree #3 is the main point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My older one is 4.5 and so far we&#8217;ve avoided the &#8220;American&#8221; kid birthdays for both her and our 2-year old. We usually invite their friends from our (immigrant) community, together with their parents (our friends) and we don&#8217;t go big on decorating, aside from me making a nice themed cake. So it may be a big party numbers-wise but not wild and on the cheap side. The kids don&#8217;t do formal activities, they just run around the house and backyard and entertain themselves most of the time.<br />
However this year we&#8217;ll have to join the crowd for her 5th birthday. She has been invited to a lot of parties from her preschool friends, they are all done in kids activities places, and usually for a group of 10-20 kids. Peer pressure is quite real, and I would feel uncomfortable not to invite them this time at least. However, I don&#8217;t see myself entertaining a group of American preschoolers, expecting games, organized fun and whatever not. And wondering how to entertain the parents at the same time, or if we offer drop off, wondering whether we&#8217;ll run into a liability problem if some kid happens to fall (the stories we&#8217;ve heard here are just scary). So for me the piece of mind is quite worth the expense of renting a place, even if it ends up $200 or so.<br />
Otherwise this is a good article and I do agree #3 is the main point.</p>
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		<title>By: Anne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 18:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree vehemently -- we do a number of things with our kids that they won&#039;t remember, because WE will remember. I will never forget how they looked when they saw their first tiger, or went to the planetarium, or got to pet a ray or whatever. Watching the wonder as your kids discover the world is the best part of parenting, why would you want to give that up just because the kid won&#039;t remember?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree vehemently &#8212; we do a number of things with our kids that they won&#8217;t remember, because WE will remember. I will never forget how they looked when they saw their first tiger, or went to the planetarium, or got to pet a ray or whatever. Watching the wonder as your kids discover the world is the best part of parenting, why would you want to give that up just because the kid won&#8217;t remember?</p>
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		<title>By: Anne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 18:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thoughtful, well written post.</description>
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		<title>By: Beth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 18:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What Diane said.

Although, I would be on board for this party if you were doing it with like-minded individuals. Some PF groups will have an occasional bonfire, where people in the group can burn their credit card bill, medical bill, mortgage payment, etc. 

But beyond that, I think it would look tacky to have a bonfire party and invite friends and family. Why can&#039;t you just take yourselves out for a spectacular dinner or even a weekend away somewhere?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Diane said.</p>
<p>Although, I would be on board for this party if you were doing it with like-minded individuals. Some PF groups will have an occasional bonfire, where people in the group can burn their credit card bill, medical bill, mortgage payment, etc. </p>
<p>But beyond that, I think it would look tacky to have a bonfire party and invite friends and family. Why can&#8217;t you just take yourselves out for a spectacular dinner or even a weekend away somewhere?</p>
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		<title>By: AmyP</title>
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		<dc:creator>AmyP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 18:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a nice idea, but what if it turns out that that&#039;s not what your kid wants?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a nice idea, but what if it turns out that that&#8217;s not what your kid wants?</p>
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		<title>By: Marsha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marsha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:37:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We more or less followed the number-of-kids=age-of-child rule, and it worked well.  This meant we were able to give the parents of the guests a break--they didn&#039;t have to stay at the party since the number of kids was never more than my husband and I could handle ourselves.  We also stated on the invitation that the guest&#039;s &quot;presence&quot; was the only &quot;present&quot; needed.  If a gift was brought, the bearer was thanked and the gift was put away to open after the party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We more or less followed the number-of-kids=age-of-child rule, and it worked well.  This meant we were able to give the parents of the guests a break&#8211;they didn&#8217;t have to stay at the party since the number of kids was never more than my husband and I could handle ourselves.  We also stated on the invitation that the guest&#8217;s &#8220;presence&#8221; was the only &#8220;present&#8221; needed.  If a gift was brought, the bearer was thanked and the gift was put away to open after the party.</p>
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		<title>By: phoenix1920</title>
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		<dc:creator>phoenix1920</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally get not throwing a party that would make your child feel uncomfortable and cry, but that really depends on the child. You should throw a party that works for you and your family.  Don&#039;t invite a crowd if your child is shy and won&#039;t like it.  Even at an early age, my kids didn&#039;t mind being around a lot of other kids, but I work and they went to a daycare/school at my husband&#039;s work, so perhaps that explains it.   Of all of the parties I&#039;ve thrown, I had only one at my house that involved a crying child--a little boy in kindergarten but he often did the same thing at school.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally get not throwing a party that would make your child feel uncomfortable and cry, but that really depends on the child. You should throw a party that works for you and your family.  Don&#8217;t invite a crowd if your child is shy and won&#8217;t like it.  Even at an early age, my kids didn&#8217;t mind being around a lot of other kids, but I work and they went to a daycare/school at my husband&#8217;s work, so perhaps that explains it.   Of all of the parties I&#8217;ve thrown, I had only one at my house that involved a crying child&#8211;a little boy in kindergarten but he often did the same thing at school.</p>
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		<title>By: Mom of five</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mom of five</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 16:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d say it depends.    For years I swore we&#039;re have a promissory note burning party as we paid off all those student loans.   Then, as we got closer to the big day, I knew it would be inappropriate given the change in our circumstances - we were so much better off than virtually all of our family and many of our friends.   A student loan burning party suddenly felt like we were rubbing people&#039;s faces in our good fortune.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d say it depends.    For years I swore we&#8217;re have a promissory note burning party as we paid off all those student loans.   Then, as we got closer to the big day, I knew it would be inappropriate given the change in our circumstances &#8211; we were so much better off than virtually all of our family and many of our friends.   A student loan burning party suddenly felt like we were rubbing people&#8217;s faces in our good fortune.</p>
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		<title>By: Mom of five</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mom of five</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 16:53:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the vast majority of kiddie birthday parties (both extravagant and backyard type) I&#039;ve attended, the gifts remain unopened.    Don&#039;t know if that practice is particular to the northeastern part of the US or if it&#039;s common throughout.    The only time our own kids have ever opened gifts at a birthday party is when it&#039;s just family.</description>
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