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	<title>Comments on: Reader Story: Teenagers and money (aka Debunking the Mom-Is-an-ATM myth)</title>
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		<title>By: Crystal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crystal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2013 19:32:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wonderful post! I am forwarding this to my husband. We have 2 young boys but I couldn&#039;t agree with you more about starting young. Good for you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonderful post! I am forwarding this to my husband. We have 2 young boys but I couldn&#8217;t agree with you more about starting young. Good for you!</p>
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		<title>By: Jammie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jammie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2013 15:41:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post! So glad I ran across it...thanks for sharing some great ideas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post! So glad I ran across it&#8230;thanks for sharing some great ideas.</p>
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		<title>By: Jackie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jackie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 18:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fabulous Story!!!

I must say I wish my parents would have done this for me or that I actually sat my kids down when they were young and taught them about money.  I think you did a great job in helping them understand it.  I hear all the time that the reason so many people don&#039;t do well with money is because they don&#039;t understand it.  we know how to spend it but we don&#039;t know how to budget it or save it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fabulous Story!!!</p>
<p>I must say I wish my parents would have done this for me or that I actually sat my kids down when they were young and taught them about money.  I think you did a great job in helping them understand it.  I hear all the time that the reason so many people don&#8217;t do well with money is because they don&#8217;t understand it.  we know how to spend it but we don&#8217;t know how to budget it or save it.</p>
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		<title>By: Marsha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marsha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 17:58:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t found a good all-around source for teen PF.  I&#039;m a high school mathematics teacher at a small private school, and about 12 years ago I convinced the principal that we should require a PF course before graduation.  It changes every year:  for example, the first year I spent some time on writing paper checks and balancing a checking account; now it&#039;s all about debit cards and on-line banking.  Legislation has also changed how credit cards work. Plus, there&#039;s always a new scam to learn about so thieves don&#039;t separate you from your money.

PF changes constantly; calculus remains the same.  If I get a chance I&#039;ll submit a reader to story to GRS about what I&#039;m planning to teach in my PF course next year.  More than anything, I try to teach the philosophy of smart money management, since I have no idea if the current mechanics of PF will have any relevance in their lives in 5 or 10 years. 

One thing that I&#039;ve found very helpful is to have my students read parts of books I&#039;ve used in my own PF journey, and then have discussions about the material.  You could certainly do this with your own kids at home.  Some of my favorites are &quot;Your Money or Your Life,&quot; &quot;The Millionaire Next Door,&quot; and &quot;The Complete Tightwad Gazette.&quot;  (More for the philosophy of PF rather than the current mechanics.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t found a good all-around source for teen PF.  I&#8217;m a high school mathematics teacher at a small private school, and about 12 years ago I convinced the principal that we should require a PF course before graduation.  It changes every year:  for example, the first year I spent some time on writing paper checks and balancing a checking account; now it&#8217;s all about debit cards and on-line banking.  Legislation has also changed how credit cards work. Plus, there&#8217;s always a new scam to learn about so thieves don&#8217;t separate you from your money.</p>
<p>PF changes constantly; calculus remains the same.  If I get a chance I&#8217;ll submit a reader to story to GRS about what I&#8217;m planning to teach in my PF course next year.  More than anything, I try to teach the philosophy of smart money management, since I have no idea if the current mechanics of PF will have any relevance in their lives in 5 or 10 years. </p>
<p>One thing that I&#8217;ve found very helpful is to have my students read parts of books I&#8217;ve used in my own PF journey, and then have discussions about the material.  You could certainly do this with your own kids at home.  Some of my favorites are &#8220;Your Money or Your Life,&#8221; &#8220;The Millionaire Next Door,&#8221; and &#8220;The Complete Tightwad Gazette.&#8221;  (More for the philosophy of PF rather than the current mechanics.)</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 17:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post!  My parents did none of this, and my brother and I suffered for it.  We were expected to make good grades AND were expected to do chores around the house with no allowance.  I understand my parents&#039; thinking behind this--it is our duty to do things around the house--but we learned nothing about finances.  I really think my parents sitting down with us to show us the monthly bill paying exercise would have been a great lesson.  When I went off to college I was a Resident Assistant in a dorm and got free room and board.  My Dad asked me how much spending money I needed every semester and I had no idea!  I asked him to help me figure out a budget, and he balked!

Keep up the good work you parents who are showing your kids how to handle finances early on.  My parents acted like it was something we&#039;d just learn along the way, which is a bad strategy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post!  My parents did none of this, and my brother and I suffered for it.  We were expected to make good grades AND were expected to do chores around the house with no allowance.  I understand my parents&#8217; thinking behind this&#8211;it is our duty to do things around the house&#8211;but we learned nothing about finances.  I really think my parents sitting down with us to show us the monthly bill paying exercise would have been a great lesson.  When I went off to college I was a Resident Assistant in a dorm and got free room and board.  My Dad asked me how much spending money I needed every semester and I had no idea!  I asked him to help me figure out a budget, and he balked!</p>
<p>Keep up the good work you parents who are showing your kids how to handle finances early on.  My parents acted like it was something we&#8217;d just learn along the way, which is a bad strategy.</p>
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		<title>By: Asif</title>
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		<dc:creator>Asif</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 17:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very nice post!</description>
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		<title>By: Scott Carney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Carney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 16:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love this post. I grew up having to work for everything. I was working while in high school and if I wanted anything I would need to find a way to get it.I do think parents do need to sit down and talk to their kids about money. I see it to much where kids ask and parents just hand over the money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love this post. I grew up having to work for everything. I was working while in high school and if I wanted anything I would need to find a way to get it.I do think parents do need to sit down and talk to their kids about money. I see it to much where kids ask and parents just hand over the money.</p>
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		<title>By: Nelson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 15:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding teaching personal finance in schools. The problem isn&#039;t the parents who know how to handle their finances and teach their kids. The problem is the parents who don&#039;t know how to handle their own finances and therefore don&#039;t know how to teach their kids. Assuming every family is, or even most families are, good with personal finance is naive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding teaching personal finance in schools. The problem isn&#8217;t the parents who know how to handle their finances and teach their kids. The problem is the parents who don&#8217;t know how to handle their own finances and therefore don&#8217;t know how to teach their kids. Assuming every family is, or even most families are, good with personal finance is naive.</p>
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		<title>By: Tina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 14:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have &quot;financial honesty&quot; with our teenagers as well. They are required to do chores. Even though I shouldn&#039;t tie it to their allowance, I subtract funds if the &quot;maid&quot; has to do them because they slacked. 

We can&#039;t afford to give them alot in allowance so they feel the pressure of getting a job.They don&#039;t ask too much for things out of their allowance unless a must have for school but I would like to see them save some of their allowance for a rainy day.

We have family meetings about finances along with other topics. It works great because they know we are honest with them and hopefully this will make them better adults one day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have &#8220;financial honesty&#8221; with our teenagers as well. They are required to do chores. Even though I shouldn&#8217;t tie it to their allowance, I subtract funds if the &#8220;maid&#8221; has to do them because they slacked. </p>
<p>We can&#8217;t afford to give them alot in allowance so they feel the pressure of getting a job.They don&#8217;t ask too much for things out of their allowance unless a must have for school but I would like to see them save some of their allowance for a rainy day.</p>
<p>We have family meetings about finances along with other topics. It works great because they know we are honest with them and hopefully this will make them better adults one day.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick @ CreditRanker.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick @ CreditRanker.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 04:11:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is good that you didn&#039;t cave in with that $50 sweatpants issue.  I read another story once(can&#039;t remember where) about a guy who had a son that was 15 and was excited to get his first car in the next year or two.  The father gave him $3000 that could only be used to invest in stocks, and whatever he had left when it was time to buy the car is what he was stuck with.  The kid lost some money right away but then got really into it and learned a lot, and then started to make some money.  I don&#039;t remember how much he ended up with, but I think that is an interesting way to teach about investing to kids. They might take it more seriously with money that they get to keep rather than just with some fake account to learn with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is good that you didn&#8217;t cave in with that $50 sweatpants issue.  I read another story once(can&#8217;t remember where) about a guy who had a son that was 15 and was excited to get his first car in the next year or two.  The father gave him $3000 that could only be used to invest in stocks, and whatever he had left when it was time to buy the car is what he was stuck with.  The kid lost some money right away but then got really into it and learned a lot, and then started to make some money.  I don&#8217;t remember how much he ended up with, but I think that is an interesting way to teach about investing to kids. They might take it more seriously with money that they get to keep rather than just with some fake account to learn with.</p>
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		<title>By: Vernon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vernon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 03:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to quickly note, that neither of these views are bad in any way and it seems like you are all loving parents.
With that said, I don&#039;t think giving out advice on how to raise a child is needed by anyone in this thread and judgement is not needed either.
I had jobs early on, did not go to college, since we could not afford it, and now make more than a couple of &quot;average american families&quot; combined and have saved large amounts due to learning about hard work and savings while in my teens. (I was out of the house after High School @ 17)
My point is job or no job while in your teens, being taught about money, hard work and being guided by parents (down either line) is the deciding factor and its great to see families raising their children and being involved. I&#039;m sure either set of kids will make both families proud but the same rules don&#039;t apply to all families.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to quickly note, that neither of these views are bad in any way and it seems like you are all loving parents.<br />
With that said, I don&#8217;t think giving out advice on how to raise a child is needed by anyone in this thread and judgement is not needed either.<br />
I had jobs early on, did not go to college, since we could not afford it, and now make more than a couple of &#8220;average american families&#8221; combined and have saved large amounts due to learning about hard work and savings while in my teens. (I was out of the house after High School @ 17)<br />
My point is job or no job while in your teens, being taught about money, hard work and being guided by parents (down either line) is the deciding factor and its great to see families raising their children and being involved. I&#8217;m sure either set of kids will make both families proud but the same rules don&#8217;t apply to all families.</p>
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		<title>By: Morgan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 23:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I grew up in a house like this and am so grateful. We had credit cards on my mom&#039;s account before we were legal, and if we charged something inappropriate, we had to pay her back with funds from the jobs we were required to get as soon as it was legal. The CCs got both my brother and I started with perfect credit by the time we were able to apply for our own cards. She also jumpstarted an IRA for us when we turned 18. You&#039;re so right about how different siblings react to the same (or similar) upbringing; my brother still struggles with basic money management and have never contributed to his IRA, and while I have certainly made some whoppers of mistakes, I feel completely comfortable and in control of my finances.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I grew up in a house like this and am so grateful. We had credit cards on my mom&#8217;s account before we were legal, and if we charged something inappropriate, we had to pay her back with funds from the jobs we were required to get as soon as it was legal. The CCs got both my brother and I started with perfect credit by the time we were able to apply for our own cards. She also jumpstarted an IRA for us when we turned 18. You&#8217;re so right about how different siblings react to the same (or similar) upbringing; my brother still struggles with basic money management and have never contributed to his IRA, and while I have certainly made some whoppers of mistakes, I feel completely comfortable and in control of my finances.</p>
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		<title>By: Brenda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brenda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 22:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This made me sad. What started out as a wonderfully supportive gesture turned into a wedge because of mistakes on both parts. Unfortunately your grandfather has a different perspective on &quot;needs&quot; than a 17 year old. That&#039;s completely natural! Also accounting for growing up during different times would only enhance this difference. The true mistake happened when, after a semester or two, your grandfather didn&#039;t call you up and say, &quot;hey grandson, I noticed you think buying video games/going out to eat/whatever is a need. That&#039;s not what I meant!.&quot; Of course you&#039;re embarrassed to find out his feelings so much later. His inability to actually confront you about may also be part of how he grew up or a generational thing. I know he could have handled things better, but I hope you&#039;ve apologized profusely. Losing face, but keeping the relationship is better than holding onto the fact that you just didn&#039;t know any better. Unfortunately the most valuable lesson from this is that money can destroy relationships--probably NOT what your grandfather intended but a valuable lesson to be thankful for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This made me sad. What started out as a wonderfully supportive gesture turned into a wedge because of mistakes on both parts. Unfortunately your grandfather has a different perspective on &#8220;needs&#8221; than a 17 year old. That&#8217;s completely natural! Also accounting for growing up during different times would only enhance this difference. The true mistake happened when, after a semester or two, your grandfather didn&#8217;t call you up and say, &#8220;hey grandson, I noticed you think buying video games/going out to eat/whatever is a need. That&#8217;s not what I meant!.&#8221; Of course you&#8217;re embarrassed to find out his feelings so much later. His inability to actually confront you about may also be part of how he grew up or a generational thing. I know he could have handled things better, but I hope you&#8217;ve apologized profusely. Losing face, but keeping the relationship is better than holding onto the fact that you just didn&#8217;t know any better. Unfortunately the most valuable lesson from this is that money can destroy relationships&#8211;probably NOT what your grandfather intended but a valuable lesson to be thankful for.</p>
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		<title>By: Misty Mikes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Misty Mikes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 22:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is absolutely fantastic.  I wish I&#039;d had this sort of guidance earlier in life.  :)  

When I went to college at 17, my grandfather handed me a credit card and said &quot;If you need it, buy it.&quot;  As you can guess, this got kind of ridiculous...  I was more responsible than most teenagers at that age, I think, but I had a funny idea about what school supplies were &#039;necessary&#039;.  Worse, when I overspent, no one told me.  I only found out third-hand my senior year of college /after/ he wrote me an email informing me that he wouldn&#039;t be paying for any more of my expenses (with one semester left to go, no less) that he had been complaining behind my back to family members about my spending skills.  

At the time, I felt mortified that I had been so irresponsible, but as an adult looking back on it, I am mortified that he made no effort whatsoever to make sure I was financially literate!  :P  Needless to say, I learned the lesson the hard way, but the experience drove a wedge between us that has never quite been overcome.  

I never want to do that to my children, so I&#039;m glad to see someone addressing the difficult question of how to raise financially literate kids!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is absolutely fantastic.  I wish I&#8217;d had this sort of guidance earlier in life.  <img src='http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   </p>
<p>When I went to college at 17, my grandfather handed me a credit card and said &#8220;If you need it, buy it.&#8221;  As you can guess, this got kind of ridiculous&#8230;  I was more responsible than most teenagers at that age, I think, but I had a funny idea about what school supplies were &#8216;necessary&#8217;.  Worse, when I overspent, no one told me.  I only found out third-hand my senior year of college /after/ he wrote me an email informing me that he wouldn&#8217;t be paying for any more of my expenses (with one semester left to go, no less) that he had been complaining behind my back to family members about my spending skills.  </p>
<p>At the time, I felt mortified that I had been so irresponsible, but as an adult looking back on it, I am mortified that he made no effort whatsoever to make sure I was financially literate!  <img src='http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' />   Needless to say, I learned the lesson the hard way, but the experience drove a wedge between us that has never quite been overcome.  </p>
<p>I never want to do that to my children, so I&#8217;m glad to see someone addressing the difficult question of how to raise financially literate kids!</p>
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		<title>By: M</title>
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		<dc:creator>M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 20:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My dad was very clear about paying for 1/2 of my college education (mind you, that was 30 years ago). I starting working at 16 years old; didn&#039;t harm me a bit. And I was really involved in music and took a full load of classes. My youngest sister was just born then, to boot. I wasn&#039;t smart--just motivated. Funny--I just finished talking with Dad and he mentioned that when it came time to pay for my tuition I insisted on paying half, excluding my scholarships. I don&#039;t remember that but I guess I was a money-smart teen. Smart about boys? Not so much...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My dad was very clear about paying for 1/2 of my college education (mind you, that was 30 years ago). I starting working at 16 years old; didn&#8217;t harm me a bit. And I was really involved in music and took a full load of classes. My youngest sister was just born then, to boot. I wasn&#8217;t smart&#8211;just motivated. Funny&#8211;I just finished talking with Dad and he mentioned that when it came time to pay for my tuition I insisted on paying half, excluding my scholarships. I don&#8217;t remember that but I guess I was a money-smart teen. Smart about boys? Not so much&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 20:32:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a great story--my parents did some similar things with my sister and I and I think it left me well-equipped for the real world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great story&#8211;my parents did some similar things with my sister and I and I think it left me well-equipped for the real world.</p>
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		<title>By: Kingston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kingston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 20:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have also had individual bill-paying sessions with my teenage boys, and I&#039;ve done it more than once with each kid, to help the concepts and amounts sink in. Seemed useful to them; they were interested. Also, as my older kid is interested in finance and investing, I asked for his input on choosing among the myriad Vanguard mutual funds to put some of my retirement money in. He actually came up with one of the same choices I did, and it was great to hear him explain his reasoning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have also had individual bill-paying sessions with my teenage boys, and I&#8217;ve done it more than once with each kid, to help the concepts and amounts sink in. Seemed useful to them; they were interested. Also, as my older kid is interested in finance and investing, I asked for his input on choosing among the myriad Vanguard mutual funds to put some of my retirement money in. He actually came up with one of the same choices I did, and it was great to hear him explain his reasoning.</p>
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		<title>By: Kingston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kingston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 20:04:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would you mind sharing with us what the year-long personal finance course was? I would love to know of any good programs that I might use as supplementary tools in teaching my boys about PF.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would you mind sharing with us what the year-long personal finance course was? I would love to know of any good programs that I might use as supplementary tools in teaching my boys about PF.</p>
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		<title>By: Anna Weisend</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anna Weisend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 19:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ramona,

Yes, I am strict.  I don&#039;t think I&#039;m overbearing.  I just want to clarify a couple of things because, after all, you can only fit a certain amount of info in an article. My kids are required to have a job, but sometimes this means that they are only working 6-8 hours per week.  They both have good grades (the oldest is on the dean&#039;s list in the honors college at her university and the youngest is on the merit roll in high school).  Both excel in their extra curricular activities and both do volunteer hours.  The only thing I see them missing in 6-8 hours/week is time on their Tumblr accounts or texting their friends.

The mandatory requirement also fits into our value system and works for our family.  We just don&#039;t feel that anyone really makes optimal decisions with money if it isn&#039;t their money. I don&#039;t ever think there is one way to parent or reach a goal.  Just because it works for us doesn&#039;t mean it&#039;ll work for you. There have been a lot of great responses here about what works.  There is more than one way to skin a cat.

As far as the &quot;House Rules&quot; go.  There are many things on those rules that have nothing to do with finance- No males in the house when we&#039;re not home, we will not tolerate underage drinking or drug use, etc.  And the financial rules are there so they go in with their eyes wide open.  We can be flexible with them if we choose to.  We haven&#039;t had to worry about it yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ramona,</p>
<p>Yes, I am strict.  I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;m overbearing.  I just want to clarify a couple of things because, after all, you can only fit a certain amount of info in an article. My kids are required to have a job, but sometimes this means that they are only working 6-8 hours per week.  They both have good grades (the oldest is on the dean&#8217;s list in the honors college at her university and the youngest is on the merit roll in high school).  Both excel in their extra curricular activities and both do volunteer hours.  The only thing I see them missing in 6-8 hours/week is time on their Tumblr accounts or texting their friends.</p>
<p>The mandatory requirement also fits into our value system and works for our family.  We just don&#8217;t feel that anyone really makes optimal decisions with money if it isn&#8217;t their money. I don&#8217;t ever think there is one way to parent or reach a goal.  Just because it works for us doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;ll work for you. There have been a lot of great responses here about what works.  There is more than one way to skin a cat.</p>
<p>As far as the &#8220;House Rules&#8221; go.  There are many things on those rules that have nothing to do with finance- No males in the house when we&#8217;re not home, we will not tolerate underage drinking or drug use, etc.  And the financial rules are there so they go in with their eyes wide open.  We can be flexible with them if we choose to.  We haven&#8217;t had to worry about it yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 19:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to admit after nodding with agreement through most of the article, I too had a hard time reading the mandatory job at 16. My mom emphasized not only focusing on school, but being able to take part in as many extracurricular activities as I wanted and could fit in my schedule. I did some summer work, and my senior year, I tutored math, but a job wasn&#039;t expected. As such, I had no cell phone, no extra spending cash, and wasn&#039;t allowed to get my driver&#039;s license so that they didn&#039;t have to pay extra for auto insurance. With all of the other choices they were allowed to make, you&#039;d think they&#039;d have the choice NOT to work, but also NOT have the benefits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to admit after nodding with agreement through most of the article, I too had a hard time reading the mandatory job at 16. My mom emphasized not only focusing on school, but being able to take part in as many extracurricular activities as I wanted and could fit in my schedule. I did some summer work, and my senior year, I tutored math, but a job wasn&#8217;t expected. As such, I had no cell phone, no extra spending cash, and wasn&#8217;t allowed to get my driver&#8217;s license so that they didn&#8217;t have to pay extra for auto insurance. With all of the other choices they were allowed to make, you&#8217;d think they&#8217;d have the choice NOT to work, but also NOT have the benefits.</p>
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		<title>By: Daria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 17:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I liked your post. We did many of the same things. We did an allowance not tied to chores, but the kids had to put a portion away in savings that was only allowed to be spent once a year. Once they got jobs at age 14 working Sat. at Chick Fil A (they were not athletes but they did participate in some clubs), they had to bank 50% to be used only for big ticket items like computers, mission trips (they all went to Mexico and Wales), and then they paid for their car insurance when they started driving. We expanded the clothing allowance concept, to include a small allowance for birthday gifts so they had to decide which parties to attend and how much to spend on a gift, youth group expenses so that they had to decide what activities to attend or they had to earn extra money ( our sons went to Florida every year while our daughters reasoned that we spent a family vacation in Florida seeing Nana so why go on the youth group trip), and charitable giving. We also had a sit down to show them how the family dollars were spent. They all had bank accounts and experience using a credit card before going off to college. When working, if an activity came up but they were on the work schedule, if they couldn&#039;t trade schedules they were never allowed to call in sick. We have seen many parents allow their children to call in sick. If one child found a good employer, the others went to work for that employer. Two children earned full merit scholarships that paid tuition and room and board for all four years, one child went to school overseas and earned a 50% tuition discount each year because of her grades. The other got married half way through college, but we paid her tuition to ensure she got a degree. We gave her the money to pay out of her account so that she got the tuition tax credit. She worked full time, took six years but got her degree a year ago. All four are fully employed and living on their own. One has investment property, while two have side businesses in addition to their jobs. These methods were right for us and the personalities of our children. It is amazing to learn about the different methods people use that get similar results.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked your post. We did many of the same things. We did an allowance not tied to chores, but the kids had to put a portion away in savings that was only allowed to be spent once a year. Once they got jobs at age 14 working Sat. at Chick Fil A (they were not athletes but they did participate in some clubs), they had to bank 50% to be used only for big ticket items like computers, mission trips (they all went to Mexico and Wales), and then they paid for their car insurance when they started driving. We expanded the clothing allowance concept, to include a small allowance for birthday gifts so they had to decide which parties to attend and how much to spend on a gift, youth group expenses so that they had to decide what activities to attend or they had to earn extra money ( our sons went to Florida every year while our daughters reasoned that we spent a family vacation in Florida seeing Nana so why go on the youth group trip), and charitable giving. We also had a sit down to show them how the family dollars were spent. They all had bank accounts and experience using a credit card before going off to college. When working, if an activity came up but they were on the work schedule, if they couldn&#8217;t trade schedules they were never allowed to call in sick. We have seen many parents allow their children to call in sick. If one child found a good employer, the others went to work for that employer. Two children earned full merit scholarships that paid tuition and room and board for all four years, one child went to school overseas and earned a 50% tuition discount each year because of her grades. The other got married half way through college, but we paid her tuition to ensure she got a degree. We gave her the money to pay out of her account so that she got the tuition tax credit. She worked full time, took six years but got her degree a year ago. All four are fully employed and living on their own. One has investment property, while two have side businesses in addition to their jobs. These methods were right for us and the personalities of our children. It is amazing to learn about the different methods people use that get similar results.</p>
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		<title>By: Tricia K.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tricia K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 16:01:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a great article with sound advice.  I am going to be using some of your very practical ideas, especially the clothing budget.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a great article with sound advice.  I am going to be using some of your very practical ideas, especially the clothing budget.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 15:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It sounds like you did a great job and had a comprehensive plan!  My &quot;kids&quot; are 34 and 37 now and have good heads on their shoulders, thankfully.  In lookiong back, I did many things right and many things I&#039;d do differently.  One thing I&#039;d do, both with myself and my sons, is to become more knowledgeable about college scholarships &amp; vocational opportunities.  There are lots of scholarships out there for the kids who study hard!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It sounds like you did a great job and had a comprehensive plan!  My &#8220;kids&#8221; are 34 and 37 now and have good heads on their shoulders, thankfully.  In lookiong back, I did many things right and many things I&#8217;d do differently.  One thing I&#8217;d do, both with myself and my sons, is to become more knowledgeable about college scholarships &amp; vocational opportunities.  There are lots of scholarships out there for the kids who study hard!</p>
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		<title>By: Leah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 15:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My parents did a system in a totally different way, and they still raised fiscally responsible kids.  We did have an allowance, and my parents never made us use our job money to pay for insurance.  They actually covered insurance and gas.  We were only allowed to work in the summer and a tiny bit in the school year (we worked at the baseball and football stadiums, so we worked all the football games and just weekends of the baseball season in the school year).  Otherwise, the priority was on keeping grades up and doing extra-curriculars.  We were all highly involved students.  

My mom also picked up extra hours (she&#039;s a nurse) to pay for college.  Of course, we had a grade caveat.  My parents never had to invoke that, as we all worked hard, but she would not have paid for us to party through school.  We also did have to get more scholarships each year to pay more for our portion.

Perhaps best, my parents made things transparent for us.  They gave us all a credit card, and we sat down to look at bills with my mom.  If we charged something on the card, we had to pay my mom, in cash, before the bill was due.  None of us have ever gotten in CC debt.  She also made us do the family grocery shopping, so we had to learn about sales and what to buy (it was a rough few weeks when we first started and realized we needed more than pretzels and fruit snacks).

I love how we were raised because we learned the value of money, but we also didn&#039;t sacrifice what we wanted to do for money.  My brothers and I have worked some low-wage jobs to follow our passions instead of going for a career.  This is working out for us, and the frugal skills our parents showed us (sale shopping, thrift stores, garage sales, and even dumpster diving, and learning how to fix things) helped just as much as the fiscal management.

To me, the key is not *what* your parents teach you, per se.  Like you said, each child is different and will respond to lessons in different ways.  What is essential is that you do work with your children and try to teach them about financial responsibility in a way that feels right for you and them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My parents did a system in a totally different way, and they still raised fiscally responsible kids.  We did have an allowance, and my parents never made us use our job money to pay for insurance.  They actually covered insurance and gas.  We were only allowed to work in the summer and a tiny bit in the school year (we worked at the baseball and football stadiums, so we worked all the football games and just weekends of the baseball season in the school year).  Otherwise, the priority was on keeping grades up and doing extra-curriculars.  We were all highly involved students.  </p>
<p>My mom also picked up extra hours (she&#8217;s a nurse) to pay for college.  Of course, we had a grade caveat.  My parents never had to invoke that, as we all worked hard, but she would not have paid for us to party through school.  We also did have to get more scholarships each year to pay more for our portion.</p>
<p>Perhaps best, my parents made things transparent for us.  They gave us all a credit card, and we sat down to look at bills with my mom.  If we charged something on the card, we had to pay my mom, in cash, before the bill was due.  None of us have ever gotten in CC debt.  She also made us do the family grocery shopping, so we had to learn about sales and what to buy (it was a rough few weeks when we first started and realized we needed more than pretzels and fruit snacks).</p>
<p>I love how we were raised because we learned the value of money, but we also didn&#8217;t sacrifice what we wanted to do for money.  My brothers and I have worked some low-wage jobs to follow our passions instead of going for a career.  This is working out for us, and the frugal skills our parents showed us (sale shopping, thrift stores, garage sales, and even dumpster diving, and learning how to fix things) helped just as much as the fiscal management.</p>
<p>To me, the key is not *what* your parents teach you, per se.  Like you said, each child is different and will respond to lessons in different ways.  What is essential is that you do work with your children and try to teach them about financial responsibility in a way that feels right for you and them.</p>
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		<title>By: J Walton</title>
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		<dc:creator>J Walton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 15:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anna, you &amp; your husband have done a wonderful job teaching your daughters about managing their finances. It&#039;s admirable the way you all tailored lessons based on their age. Great job!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anna, you &amp; your husband have done a wonderful job teaching your daughters about managing their finances. It&#8217;s admirable the way you all tailored lessons based on their age. Great job!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Me</title>
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		<dc:creator>Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 15:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article. I have a young child at home now and this information will really come in handy for me over the years, especially regarding chores &amp; allowance. Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article. I have a young child at home now and this information will really come in handy for me over the years, especially regarding chores &amp; allowance. Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Liz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 15:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Anna!! Great ideas for us to implement with our son. I haven&#039;t been the best with consistency and continuity. We&#039;ll keep plugging away!! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Anna!! Great ideas for us to implement with our son. I haven&#8217;t been the best with consistency and continuity. We&#8217;ll keep plugging away!! <img src='http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Tracey H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tracey H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 15:32:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This sounds very much like what we did with our kids.  They got jobs at 16 (actually, our youngest was delivering flyers and babysitting from the age of 13) and had to save 1/2 of their money for university/college.  The oldest was happy to have whatever clothes we bought him so he didn&#039;t go on a clothing allowance, but our daughter was a clothes hog so she went on one at age 12.  I gave her a monthly allowance plus a lump sum in the fall for winter boots and a coat and we paid for athletic clothing (e.g. soccer cleats).  She learned a lot, especially when he first purchase was a $70 pair of polyester pants that pilled in the washer.  

They&#039;re both adults now and the oldest is married with kids and financially successful.  The youngest is still trying to find herself and is living oversees for a year (on her own dime, working for accommodation and sometimes for cash while she travels).  I suspect this year will teach her a lot more skills and open her eyes and maybe she&#039;ll finally figure out what she&#039;ll do for a living when she gets back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This sounds very much like what we did with our kids.  They got jobs at 16 (actually, our youngest was delivering flyers and babysitting from the age of 13) and had to save 1/2 of their money for university/college.  The oldest was happy to have whatever clothes we bought him so he didn&#8217;t go on a clothing allowance, but our daughter was a clothes hog so she went on one at age 12.  I gave her a monthly allowance plus a lump sum in the fall for winter boots and a coat and we paid for athletic clothing (e.g. soccer cleats).  She learned a lot, especially when he first purchase was a $70 pair of polyester pants that pilled in the washer.  </p>
<p>They&#8217;re both adults now and the oldest is married with kids and financially successful.  The youngest is still trying to find herself and is living oversees for a year (on her own dime, working for accommodation and sometimes for cash while she travels).  I suspect this year will teach her a lot more skills and open her eyes and maybe she&#8217;ll finally figure out what she&#8217;ll do for a living when she gets back.</p>
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		<title>By: soledad</title>
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		<dc:creator>soledad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 14:51:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Starting out like this turns me off.  &quot;Regardless of their parent’s income level, every child thinks that money magically comes out of an ATM with a bottomless pit. &quot;  Not EVERY child thinks this.  I never saw my parents as ATMs and I was always uncomfortable taking $ from my less well-off extended family.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Starting out like this turns me off.  &#8220;Regardless of their parent’s income level, every child thinks that money magically comes out of an ATM with a bottomless pit. &#8221;  Not EVERY child thinks this.  I never saw my parents as ATMs and I was always uncomfortable taking $ from my less well-off extended family.</p>
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		<title>By: Pauline</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pauline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 14:26:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like you, my parents didn&#039;t give us money for chores, but they gave us an allowance not tied to chores. Something very small, to cover a small treat per week or a big monthly treat. Anything on top, we had to buy. So as a teenager they would check the price of a pair of jeans and give me the money to buy it, if I wanted a brand I had to baby sit or do other jobs to cover the difference. Since I grew up with lots of privileged kids, of course I wanted all that, so I had to work a lot and by the time I graduated high school I knew it was all futile and learned the value of money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like you, my parents didn&#8217;t give us money for chores, but they gave us an allowance not tied to chores. Something very small, to cover a small treat per week or a big monthly treat. Anything on top, we had to buy. So as a teenager they would check the price of a pair of jeans and give me the money to buy it, if I wanted a brand I had to baby sit or do other jobs to cover the difference. Since I grew up with lots of privileged kids, of course I wanted all that, so I had to work a lot and by the time I graduated high school I knew it was all futile and learned the value of money.</p>
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