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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Apr 2013 17:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like that you are pointing out a subject that is touchy but yet so important. I married my high school sweetheart right out of high school and so we really started together and made everything with eachother. I can see if you were an adult already and began a relashionship with someone who has already done so much for their financial future that this topic would be a huge help to discuss in the beginning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like that you are pointing out a subject that is touchy but yet so important. I married my high school sweetheart right out of high school and so we really started together and made everything with eachother. I can see if you were an adult already and began a relashionship with someone who has already done so much for their financial future that this topic would be a huge help to discuss in the beginning.</p>
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		<title>By: slinky</title>
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		<dc:creator>slinky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 23:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We both have our own budgets that we manage in wildly different ways. We both think the other is a bit nutty for doing it the way they do. And we both trust the other to handle their money responsibly, be honest about everything, and to work together to reach both our mutual and also our personal goals.

We&#039;re both strong advocates for Seperate finances working just fine thank you very much. He has personal reasons to not combine finances. Me? I think it sounds inefficient and we&#039;d honestly have more trouble deciding HOW to budget than WHAT to budget. I can&#039;t fathom non monthly budgets, or this nebulous slush fund thing people use. He would take one look at my short term savings accounting and throw his hands up.

Our advice? If its working for you, don&#039;t mess with it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We both have our own budgets that we manage in wildly different ways. We both think the other is a bit nutty for doing it the way they do. And we both trust the other to handle their money responsibly, be honest about everything, and to work together to reach both our mutual and also our personal goals.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re both strong advocates for Seperate finances working just fine thank you very much. He has personal reasons to not combine finances. Me? I think it sounds inefficient and we&#8217;d honestly have more trouble deciding HOW to budget than WHAT to budget. I can&#8217;t fathom non monthly budgets, or this nebulous slush fund thing people use. He would take one look at my short term savings accounting and throw his hands up.</p>
<p>Our advice? If its working for you, don&#8217;t mess with it!</p>
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		<title>By: BillGuard Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>BillGuard Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 00:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One quick note. This isn&#039;t on the topic of love/relationships and money, per se. (I&#039;m the last person who should be giving relationship advice!) Rather, its about something else you mentioned in your comment.

You said:

&quot;We each have “our” accounts from which we pay our personal expenses (haircuts, gas, credit card bill). And we have a “joint” household account, from which we pay the mortgage, taxes, food, utilities, vet bills, and vacation expenses.&quot;

I&#039;d just like to note a friendly warning: if you have both seperate and joint accounts, it might be easier for double-charges or unwanted charges or other types of grey charges to pass through unnoticed. Let&#039;s assume you scan your bill statements to make sure they seem reasonably accurate. It&#039;s possible that something seemingly accurate (like a magazine subscription) could pop up on two statements, and you&#039;d think that it was legit, even though you&#039;re actually getting double-billed. 

By the way, this isn&#039;t directed at &quot;you,&quot; specifically. I&#039;m referring to the general &quot;you,&quot; as in, anyone who&#039;s juggling managing multiple statements with a series of account holders. It&#039;s tough to manage all those transactions ... it&#039;s work! So, just wanted to put that message out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One quick note. This isn&#8217;t on the topic of love/relationships and money, per se. (I&#8217;m the last person who should be giving relationship advice!) Rather, its about something else you mentioned in your comment.</p>
<p>You said:</p>
<p>&#8220;We each have “our” accounts from which we pay our personal expenses (haircuts, gas, credit card bill). And we have a “joint” household account, from which we pay the mortgage, taxes, food, utilities, vet bills, and vacation expenses.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;d just like to note a friendly warning: if you have both seperate and joint accounts, it might be easier for double-charges or unwanted charges or other types of grey charges to pass through unnoticed. Let&#8217;s assume you scan your bill statements to make sure they seem reasonably accurate. It&#8217;s possible that something seemingly accurate (like a magazine subscription) could pop up on two statements, and you&#8217;d think that it was legit, even though you&#8217;re actually getting double-billed. </p>
<p>By the way, this isn&#8217;t directed at &#8220;you,&#8221; specifically. I&#8217;m referring to the general &#8220;you,&#8221; as in, anyone who&#8217;s juggling managing multiple statements with a series of account holders. It&#8217;s tough to manage all those transactions &#8230; it&#8217;s work! So, just wanted to put that message out there.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2013 02:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Kristin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Kristin</p>
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		<title>By: Sandi_k</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandi_k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2013 17:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;re a blend of &quot;combined&quot; and &quot;separate.&quot;

We each have &quot;our&quot; accounts from which we pay our personal expenses (haircuts, gas, credit card bill). And we have a &quot;joint&quot; household account, from which we pay the mortgage, taxes, food, utilities, vet bills, and vacation expenses.

We are legally joint on all accounts, which helps with the longer-term issues, as well as transparency. But in practice, &quot;his&quot; is his, and &quot;mine&quot; is mine.

This has worked well for 16 years.

Now, as we get older, it&#039;s getting trickier. I have always been a big saver, and have set aside more money than he in retirement. He has typically made a bit less, but he&#039;s managed a business that we own jointly, so I feel that he&#039;s doing that for our future, and it&#039;s not an issue.

Where we&#039;re beginning to hit the wall: a huge disparity in retirement savings, and in inheritance expectations.

DH inherited a bit of money a few years back, and I insisted that he keep it separate. He is likely to inherit substantially more funds in the future from his parents, and it&#039;s unlikely I will inherit anything from mine.

I have to say it&#039;s beginning to puzzle me as to how we&#039;ll integrate those funds into our life. He&#039;ll be benefiting from my extreme savings in retirement (and health care coverage!), so it&#039;s beginning to make sense that his future inheritance be part of his retirement plans - from which, in fairness, I think I should benefit.

We haven&#039;t solved this one yet, because we haven&#039;t needed to. But the neat thing is - after all these years together, I have faith that we will. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re a blend of &#8220;combined&#8221; and &#8220;separate.&#8221;</p>
<p>We each have &#8220;our&#8221; accounts from which we pay our personal expenses (haircuts, gas, credit card bill). And we have a &#8220;joint&#8221; household account, from which we pay the mortgage, taxes, food, utilities, vet bills, and vacation expenses.</p>
<p>We are legally joint on all accounts, which helps with the longer-term issues, as well as transparency. But in practice, &#8220;his&#8221; is his, and &#8220;mine&#8221; is mine.</p>
<p>This has worked well for 16 years.</p>
<p>Now, as we get older, it&#8217;s getting trickier. I have always been a big saver, and have set aside more money than he in retirement. He has typically made a bit less, but he&#8217;s managed a business that we own jointly, so I feel that he&#8217;s doing that for our future, and it&#8217;s not an issue.</p>
<p>Where we&#8217;re beginning to hit the wall: a huge disparity in retirement savings, and in inheritance expectations.</p>
<p>DH inherited a bit of money a few years back, and I insisted that he keep it separate. He is likely to inherit substantially more funds in the future from his parents, and it&#8217;s unlikely I will inherit anything from mine.</p>
<p>I have to say it&#8217;s beginning to puzzle me as to how we&#8217;ll integrate those funds into our life. He&#8217;ll be benefiting from my extreme savings in retirement (and health care coverage!), so it&#8217;s beginning to make sense that his future inheritance be part of his retirement plans &#8211; from which, in fairness, I think I should benefit.</p>
<p>We haven&#8217;t solved this one yet, because we haven&#8217;t needed to. But the neat thing is &#8211; after all these years together, I have faith that we will. <img src='http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: TTMK</title>
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		<dc:creator>TTMK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2013 02:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think a real key to harmony is the ability to compromise.  Sure, some people either have very different goals, or very different habits. Or both! In some cases, these things can be very difficult to overcome.

However, when the two people truly aren&#039;t at extremes, I think that it could be very possible to be very successful together if they are both highly committed to each other and have the ability to truly compromise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think a real key to harmony is the ability to compromise.  Sure, some people either have very different goals, or very different habits. Or both! In some cases, these things can be very difficult to overcome.</p>
<p>However, when the two people truly aren&#8217;t at extremes, I think that it could be very possible to be very successful together if they are both highly committed to each other and have the ability to truly compromise.</p>
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		<title>By: Jo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2013 21:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Before we were married but living together we each paid half of all bills and rent etc. basically supporting ourselves. Whatever was left over was our personal cash to do with what we pleased. We have now been married 9 years, overtime things have been combined. All our money is pooled and budgeted for things like house, cars, food, investing and travel. We then each have a separate account which we get the same weekly allowance into, this stops any guilty feelings over spending/shopping. I say do what ever works. It helps we have no children and similar spending habits and long term goals. One partner currently earns 30% more than the other but there is no bad feelings about contributing more as at other times its been reversed or equal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before we were married but living together we each paid half of all bills and rent etc. basically supporting ourselves. Whatever was left over was our personal cash to do with what we pleased. We have now been married 9 years, overtime things have been combined. All our money is pooled and budgeted for things like house, cars, food, investing and travel. We then each have a separate account which we get the same weekly allowance into, this stops any guilty feelings over spending/shopping. I say do what ever works. It helps we have no children and similar spending habits and long term goals. One partner currently earns 30% more than the other but there is no bad feelings about contributing more as at other times its been reversed or equal.</p>
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		<title>By: J.D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>J.D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2013 14:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It sounds like you&#039;re doing the right thing.  My wife and I have completely different philosophies on managing money, and we just keep the lines of communication open (and use a shared budget with all of our income).  It has worked really good for us over the past 4 years we&#039;ve been married.  We talk about where we will spend the money for the current month at the beginning of the month, and try to stick with it.  

Over the 4 years, we&#039;ve gotten closer to the same page.  I&#039;ve always been the one reluctant to spend money, and she&#039;s always loved spending it, and we&#039;ve both come a little more toward the middle as time goes on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It sounds like you&#8217;re doing the right thing.  My wife and I have completely different philosophies on managing money, and we just keep the lines of communication open (and use a shared budget with all of our income).  It has worked really good for us over the past 4 years we&#8217;ve been married.  We talk about where we will spend the money for the current month at the beginning of the month, and try to stick with it.  </p>
<p>Over the 4 years, we&#8217;ve gotten closer to the same page.  I&#8217;ve always been the one reluctant to spend money, and she&#8217;s always loved spending it, and we&#8217;ve both come a little more toward the middle as time goes on.</p>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2013 14:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes.  In the eyes of the court, unless you have a prenup otherwise, it&#039;s combined, whether or not you keep them separately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes.  In the eyes of the court, unless you have a prenup otherwise, it&#8217;s combined, whether or not you keep them separately.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura Donnovan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura Donnovan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2013 12:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Financial harmony is really tough to obtain in a relationship, but if you talk with the person and you both make a financial plan together it shouldn&#039;t be such a problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Financial harmony is really tough to obtain in a relationship, but if you talk with the person and you both make a financial plan together it shouldn&#8217;t be such a problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Dona Collins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dona Collins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2013 02:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Money is a tough subject in our relationship. I&#039;m always focused on it and work two jobs to make sure our bills are paid (including writing about - well - money). 

He, on the other hand, puts in a lot of hour at our fledgling business. He doesn&#039;t make much, but his time is where it needs to be right now. I realize there has to be some sort of give and take for us to make our ventures take off.

Still, it&#039;s tough to work till the wee hours of the morning worrying about debts, medical bills, and yes - taxes. We don&#039;t talk about it much, but when it&#039;s really important, we seem to be able to do so without tearing each other&#039;s heads off!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Money is a tough subject in our relationship. I&#8217;m always focused on it and work two jobs to make sure our bills are paid (including writing about &#8211; well &#8211; money). </p>
<p>He, on the other hand, puts in a lot of hour at our fledgling business. He doesn&#8217;t make much, but his time is where it needs to be right now. I realize there has to be some sort of give and take for us to make our ventures take off.</p>
<p>Still, it&#8217;s tough to work till the wee hours of the morning worrying about debts, medical bills, and yes &#8211; taxes. We don&#8217;t talk about it much, but when it&#8217;s really important, we seem to be able to do so without tearing each other&#8217;s heads off!</p>
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		<title>By: chubblywubbly</title>
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		<dc:creator>chubblywubbly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2013 01:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely agree that both partners should be involved. 

In the first year of marriage, my husband handed over the reins completely to me and I struggled with so much responsibility. It is very daunting to know that not only was I responsible for paying all the bills but saving for retirement as well.

It is much better now with both of us managing it jointly. We do not discuss spending too much because we trust each other but we have a monthly discussion where we take a detailed look over all our accounts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree that both partners should be involved. </p>
<p>In the first year of marriage, my husband handed over the reins completely to me and I struggled with so much responsibility. It is very daunting to know that not only was I responsible for paying all the bills but saving for retirement as well.</p>
<p>It is much better now with both of us managing it jointly. We do not discuss spending too much because we trust each other but we have a monthly discussion where we take a detailed look over all our accounts.</p>
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		<title>By: jessica</title>
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		<dc:creator>jessica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 23:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is my understanding as well.  When my husband and I first started contributing to our 401ks I wanted to put more in mine because my employer had a higher match.  However, I was worried that if something happened to us it would leave him in the lurch.  So I looked it up. At least in NC if you divorce then the retirement funds get split along with everything else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is my understanding as well.  When my husband and I first started contributing to our 401ks I wanted to put more in mine because my employer had a higher match.  However, I was worried that if something happened to us it would leave him in the lurch.  So I looked it up. At least in NC if you divorce then the retirement funds get split along with everything else.</p>
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		<title>By: Charlotte</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charlotte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 23:39:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have separate finances. I contribute to my 401K and he contributes to his. We contribute the same percentage (10%) but since my salary is 20% higher than his, we contribute unequal amounts, which is fine by us. I plan to open a Roth IRA this year, and I will encourage him to do so as well. Most likely he will open his own at the same time, but ultimately the decision is up to him because he&#039;s an adult and he is responsible for managing his own finances. 

The key is that we both understand being married means you have to take care of yourself, or else you will become a burden to your partner down the line. This applies to finances as well as taking care of your health. 

It also helps that we have similar values in terms of financial goals, spending habits, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have separate finances. I contribute to my 401K and he contributes to his. We contribute the same percentage (10%) but since my salary is 20% higher than his, we contribute unequal amounts, which is fine by us. I plan to open a Roth IRA this year, and I will encourage him to do so as well. Most likely he will open his own at the same time, but ultimately the decision is up to him because he&#8217;s an adult and he is responsible for managing his own finances. </p>
<p>The key is that we both understand being married means you have to take care of yourself, or else you will become a burden to your partner down the line. This applies to finances as well as taking care of your health. </p>
<p>It also helps that we have similar values in terms of financial goals, spending habits, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Donna Freedman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donna Freedman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 23:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It makes a great deal of sense: Financial independence means that you won&#039;t be asking your partner to shoulder more expenses than is fair.
And we, too, know that each can count on the other in times of financial trouble. It&#039;s a partnership, after all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It makes a great deal of sense: Financial independence means that you won&#8217;t be asking your partner to shoulder more expenses than is fair.<br />
And we, too, know that each can count on the other in times of financial trouble. It&#8217;s a partnership, after all.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick @ ayoungpro.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick @ ayoungpro.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 23:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was a big adjustment for me to go from being single to being married, in regards to finances. A lot of the lessons you describe above are the same lessons I learned. The two most important things I have learned are: have patience with your mate and the differences you have, and constantly talk about things and learn from each other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was a big adjustment for me to go from being single to being married, in regards to finances. A lot of the lessons you describe above are the same lessons I learned. The two most important things I have learned are: have patience with your mate and the differences you have, and constantly talk about things and learn from each other.</p>
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		<title>By: krantcents</title>
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		<dc:creator>krantcents</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 22:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an old (44 years) married guy, my wife and I take responsibility for different things.  Although we are on the same page and in agreement for the future, I take the lead in finances. After all, I was a former CFO and business owner. My plan helped us achieve financial freedom by the time I reached 38 years old. We talk about any major purchases or changes in our life.  I think that is the key to a successful marriage.  You may have difference in approach or how you handle things, but the outcome has to be the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an old (44 years) married guy, my wife and I take responsibility for different things.  Although we are on the same page and in agreement for the future, I take the lead in finances. After all, I was a former CFO and business owner. My plan helped us achieve financial freedom by the time I reached 38 years old. We talk about any major purchases or changes in our life.  I think that is the key to a successful marriage.  You may have difference in approach or how you handle things, but the outcome has to be the same.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 21:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just wanted to say that I&#039;m really enjoying reading everyone&#039;s comments on what&#039;s worked for them (and what hasn&#039;t). I was nervous about this post, but you guys have not only been delicate about the topic, but you&#039;ve also been very helpful. So thanks! And Happy V-Day!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wanted to say that I&#8217;m really enjoying reading everyone&#8217;s comments on what&#8217;s worked for them (and what hasn&#8217;t). I was nervous about this post, but you guys have not only been delicate about the topic, but you&#8217;ve also been very helpful. So thanks! And Happy V-Day!</p>
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		<title>By: Kristin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 21:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awe, Donna, I just read your post and it gave me goosebumps. Very sweet!

Brian and I also split everything down the middle. I think it works because we put the other person first. We don&#039;t let anything get in the way of making things financially fair for the other person. If one of us lost our job, for example, we know we could depend on the other. But we&#039;d do everything we could to prevent that burden from happening. Essentially, I think we&#039;re financially independent not just for ourselves, but for the sake of the other, too. If that makes sense.

Loved your writing, as always, and congrats on meeting your match!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awe, Donna, I just read your post and it gave me goosebumps. Very sweet!</p>
<p>Brian and I also split everything down the middle. I think it works because we put the other person first. We don&#8217;t let anything get in the way of making things financially fair for the other person. If one of us lost our job, for example, we know we could depend on the other. But we&#8217;d do everything we could to prevent that burden from happening. Essentially, I think we&#8217;re financially independent not just for ourselves, but for the sake of the other, too. If that makes sense.</p>
<p>Loved your writing, as always, and congrats on meeting your match!</p>
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		<title>By: Kristin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 21:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha, thanks, Edward. Brian will be glad to hear your kind words. 
I really admire this attitude! My mom was a worrier, my grandma was a worrier, and as M mentioned, maybe it does have something to do with an innate fear of being a &quot;bag-lady.&quot; When I was little, my parents were hell bent on making sure I grew up without ever having to depend on a man, and that definitely contributed to my motivation for financial independence. (Not that I&#039;m blaming them--I appreciate what they&#039;ve instilled in me.) But for whatever reason, I&#039;m a worrier, and I just find Brian&#039;s attitude to be so refreshing to live with. I&#039;m definitely working on learning to let go a little more :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha, thanks, Edward. Brian will be glad to hear your kind words.<br />
I really admire this attitude! My mom was a worrier, my grandma was a worrier, and as M mentioned, maybe it does have something to do with an innate fear of being a &#8220;bag-lady.&#8221; When I was little, my parents were hell bent on making sure I grew up without ever having to depend on a man, and that definitely contributed to my motivation for financial independence. (Not that I&#8217;m blaming them&#8211;I appreciate what they&#8217;ve instilled in me.) But for whatever reason, I&#8217;m a worrier, and I just find Brian&#8217;s attitude to be so refreshing to live with. I&#8217;m definitely working on learning to let go a little more <img src='http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Kristin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 21:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think I mentioned the fact that we&#039;re not married (hence the preparing for the future paragraph). So we&#039;re still not quite sure where we&#039;re headed with the joint/separate finances thing. But we do know (and are still finding out) what to expect when we get there so that we can make the best decision for us. 

Everyone&#039;s comments are very encouraging :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think I mentioned the fact that we&#8217;re not married (hence the preparing for the future paragraph). So we&#8217;re still not quite sure where we&#8217;re headed with the joint/separate finances thing. But we do know (and are still finding out) what to expect when we get there so that we can make the best decision for us. </p>
<p>Everyone&#8217;s comments are very encouraging <img src='http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Paula</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paula</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 20:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After a divorce nine years ago, I realized that I had to handle my diminished assets differently than I had during thirty years of marriage. Before I remarried, I began to become aware that I needed more financial education. 
My current husband has taught me much about budgeting and limiting the amount we spend. Now I am much wiser about our finances and we are enjoying a real increase in our total net worth.
Before we wed, my husband helped us by organizing the payoff of my new student loans and some credit card debt. He set up a budget that we lived strictly by and we began to prosper after the debts were gone. When we had more available money, we bought more income properties.
We have always openly discussed money matters which has made for a better relationship.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After a divorce nine years ago, I realized that I had to handle my diminished assets differently than I had during thirty years of marriage. Before I remarried, I began to become aware that I needed more financial education.<br />
My current husband has taught me much about budgeting and limiting the amount we spend. Now I am much wiser about our finances and we are enjoying a real increase in our total net worth.<br />
Before we wed, my husband helped us by organizing the payoff of my new student loans and some credit card debt. He set up a budget that we lived strictly by and we began to prosper after the debts were gone. When we had more available money, we bought more income properties.<br />
We have always openly discussed money matters which has made for a better relationship.</p>
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		<title>By: lmoot</title>
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		<dc:creator>lmoot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 20:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well that addresses one of the many misconceptions about splitting finances. Who says the finances have to be split 50/50? Separate finances is not synonymous with equal financing. I guess the &quot;separate accounts&quot; version woud be to recalculate each person&#039;s monthly expense contributions (he pays less, she pays more) so that he COULD afford to max out his retirement accounts. Either way it doesn&#039;t really matter where the money is coming from, joint or separate, the result is the same. 

So my response is, there is little difference between how most separate or joint finances handle retirement.

The main possible difference I can thing of is when only a select person&#039;s account is being funded in their name. There are couples who only max out one individual&#039;s retirement account, or only FUND one retirement account, which is very dangerous for the one left out in the lurch.

I personally prefer to have separate financing, with a joint &quot;bridge&quot;. Each has their own retirement, savings, checking. Then there is a joint savings and checking which are used only for mutual or agreed expenses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well that addresses one of the many misconceptions about splitting finances. Who says the finances have to be split 50/50? Separate finances is not synonymous with equal financing. I guess the &#8220;separate accounts&#8221; version woud be to recalculate each person&#8217;s monthly expense contributions (he pays less, she pays more) so that he COULD afford to max out his retirement accounts. Either way it doesn&#8217;t really matter where the money is coming from, joint or separate, the result is the same. </p>
<p>So my response is, there is little difference between how most separate or joint finances handle retirement.</p>
<p>The main possible difference I can thing of is when only a select person&#8217;s account is being funded in their name. There are couples who only max out one individual&#8217;s retirement account, or only FUND one retirement account, which is very dangerous for the one left out in the lurch.</p>
<p>I personally prefer to have separate financing, with a joint &#8220;bridge&#8221;. Each has their own retirement, savings, checking. Then there is a joint savings and checking which are used only for mutual or agreed expenses.</p>
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		<title>By: Ely</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ely</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 20:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a challenging area, especially since my husband is 16 years older than me. He is 55, with no retirement savings and plenty of debt. He plans to work until he dies. If he is unable to do that, we would have to live on my income alone, unless the noises his parents have made about a trust turn out to be true.
I put about 15% of my income into my own retirement accounts. Based on my family history, I have to plan on living to 100, a lot of that time alone. I HAVE to save as much as I possibly can.
I have considered opening an IRA or something for him - but the amount we have to spare is so small, and the timeline so short, I don&#039;t see that that would be any better than just putting the money in regular savings.

Given that people have such different ideas about what is appropriate for retirement savings, different risk tolerances and all that, I don&#039;t see any problem with saving separately for retirement. I would assume that each would support the other in the end no matter what anyway, so why not let each handle things their own way? (If your spouse &#039;does it wrong,&#039; you have bigger problems anyway.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a challenging area, especially since my husband is 16 years older than me. He is 55, with no retirement savings and plenty of debt. He plans to work until he dies. If he is unable to do that, we would have to live on my income alone, unless the noises his parents have made about a trust turn out to be true.<br />
I put about 15% of my income into my own retirement accounts. Based on my family history, I have to plan on living to 100, a lot of that time alone. I HAVE to save as much as I possibly can.<br />
I have considered opening an IRA or something for him &#8211; but the amount we have to spare is so small, and the timeline so short, I don&#8217;t see that that would be any better than just putting the money in regular savings.</p>
<p>Given that people have such different ideas about what is appropriate for retirement savings, different risk tolerances and all that, I don&#8217;t see any problem with saving separately for retirement. I would assume that each would support the other in the end no matter what anyway, so why not let each handle things their own way? (If your spouse &#8216;does it wrong,&#8217; you have bigger problems anyway.)</p>
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		<title>By: Donna Freedman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donna Freedman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 20:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On my own site today I wrote about joining forces with an until-now-secret love. I didn&#039;t address finances because we&#039;re still working that out, but I expect I&#039;ll do this later.
Short form: We&#039;re middle-aged so it&#039;s a different story. We have grown children and for that reason certain finances will remain stay separate. But groceries, gas (it&#039;s a one-car relationship), utilities, taxes and repairs will be split 50-50. 
We&#039;re considering a joint checking account but that&#039;s still up in the air. Heck, I&#039;m still not finished moving my stuff in, let alone my money. 
If we don&#039;t do joint checking, then we&#039;ll either take turns paying bills or he&#039;ll pay and I&#039;ll give him my half in cash.
It&#039;s important to me that this be fair. Luckily he&#039;s not the kind of guy who gets cranky if a woman tries to pay for something.
P.S. Midlife love rocks. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On my own site today I wrote about joining forces with an until-now-secret love. I didn&#8217;t address finances because we&#8217;re still working that out, but I expect I&#8217;ll do this later.<br />
Short form: We&#8217;re middle-aged so it&#8217;s a different story. We have grown children and for that reason certain finances will remain stay separate. But groceries, gas (it&#8217;s a one-car relationship), utilities, taxes and repairs will be split 50-50.<br />
We&#8217;re considering a joint checking account but that&#8217;s still up in the air. Heck, I&#8217;m still not finished moving my stuff in, let alone my money.<br />
If we don&#8217;t do joint checking, then we&#8217;ll either take turns paying bills or he&#8217;ll pay and I&#8217;ll give him my half in cash.<br />
It&#8217;s important to me that this be fair. Luckily he&#8217;s not the kind of guy who gets cranky if a woman tries to pay for something.<br />
P.S. Midlife love rocks. <img src='http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 20:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marla:  From my understanding, if the marriage is dissolved, the money gets split up anyway, regardless of whose name the accounts are in.  That is, unless you have a prenup.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marla:  From my understanding, if the marriage is dissolved, the money gets split up anyway, regardless of whose name the accounts are in.  That is, unless you have a prenup.</p>
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		<title>By: Honey Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Honey Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 20:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@lmoot, I think what Sam is saying is that if she and Mr. Sam split household expenses 50/50, he couldn&#039;t max out his retirement accounts.  By her paying more than half, they BOTH get more in retirement.  And it&#039;s not a hardship for her to pay for more than half.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@lmoot, I think what Sam is saying is that if she and Mr. Sam split household expenses 50/50, he couldn&#8217;t max out his retirement accounts.  By her paying more than half, they BOTH get more in retirement.  And it&#8217;s not a hardship for her to pay for more than half.</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jamie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 20:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read a great line in a book yesterday: &quot;If we only fell in love with people who were perfect for us...then there wouldn&#039;t be so much fuss about love in the first place.&quot; (Amor Towles, Rules of Civility)

This line popped into my head as I started to comment here, because my dude and I are so perfectly matched in every way except financially-- We were CLOSE to being matched perfectly financially, so we had to get creative.

We are both thrifty and can get along well with very little. However, he is fantastically generous with money and I am not. A big part of this is that he is on permanent disability and set for life without needing to work anymore, without needing to consider retirement savings, and without needing to consider things like disability insurance. I work an 8-5 job, sock lots of money into savings (I get paid a bit more than he does), and have a variety of insurances.

When he has money, he wants to buy me presents, he wants to take his friends out for drinks, and he wants to &quot;loan&quot; his brother money (that&#039;s a whole &#039;nother thing).

How we&#039;ve worked this out is that after rent, he pays for the fun stuff and I pay for everything else.

At first I didn&#039;t like the idea of having separate finances-- but why not? Every couple works together differently, and it is up to each couple to figure out what works best for them.

What&#039;s great about this arrangement? I get to totally relax when we go to happy hour, knowing that it&#039;s on his dime. I can look the other way when Brother gets handed $20 here and there. I can stock our fridge with healthy, high-quality food, and when kale and quinoa look bleak to him, he can run to Taco Bell and I don&#039;t get financially offended.

Basically, I get to be as frugal and financially savvy as if I were an independent, unattached woman, and I go out on lots of dates with an awesome dude and get lots of cool presents that I would NEVER have bought for myself. And he gets to spend whatever he wants on whatever he wants, knowing that his basic needs are taken care of, if he runs out of money before his next check.

It rocks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read a great line in a book yesterday: &#8220;If we only fell in love with people who were perfect for us&#8230;then there wouldn&#8217;t be so much fuss about love in the first place.&#8221; (Amor Towles, Rules of Civility)</p>
<p>This line popped into my head as I started to comment here, because my dude and I are so perfectly matched in every way except financially&#8211; We were CLOSE to being matched perfectly financially, so we had to get creative.</p>
<p>We are both thrifty and can get along well with very little. However, he is fantastically generous with money and I am not. A big part of this is that he is on permanent disability and set for life without needing to work anymore, without needing to consider retirement savings, and without needing to consider things like disability insurance. I work an 8-5 job, sock lots of money into savings (I get paid a bit more than he does), and have a variety of insurances.</p>
<p>When he has money, he wants to buy me presents, he wants to take his friends out for drinks, and he wants to &#8220;loan&#8221; his brother money (that&#8217;s a whole &#8216;nother thing).</p>
<p>How we&#8217;ve worked this out is that after rent, he pays for the fun stuff and I pay for everything else.</p>
<p>At first I didn&#8217;t like the idea of having separate finances&#8211; but why not? Every couple works together differently, and it is up to each couple to figure out what works best for them.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s great about this arrangement? I get to totally relax when we go to happy hour, knowing that it&#8217;s on his dime. I can look the other way when Brother gets handed $20 here and there. I can stock our fridge with healthy, high-quality food, and when kale and quinoa look bleak to him, he can run to Taco Bell and I don&#8217;t get financially offended.</p>
<p>Basically, I get to be as frugal and financially savvy as if I were an independent, unattached woman, and I go out on lots of dates with an awesome dude and get lots of cool presents that I would NEVER have bought for myself. And he gets to spend whatever he wants on whatever he wants, knowing that his basic needs are taken care of, if he runs out of money before his next check.</p>
<p>It rocks.</p>
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		<title>By: lmoot</title>
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		<dc:creator>lmoot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 20:06:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But wouldn&#039;t they cross that bridge when they got to it? Neither person should be doing anything with the 401ks until retirement. How to manage the growing of the funds, and how to manage the funds themselves are two different things. 

There&#039;s no reason why each couldn&#039;t manage investing their own 401k, and make decisions together what to do with it when it&#039;s time to take the funds out. That way if there is a separation, both are prepared.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But wouldn&#8217;t they cross that bridge when they got to it? Neither person should be doing anything with the 401ks until retirement. How to manage the growing of the funds, and how to manage the funds themselves are two different things. </p>
<p>There&#8217;s no reason why each couldn&#8217;t manage investing their own 401k, and make decisions together what to do with it when it&#8217;s time to take the funds out. That way if there is a separation, both are prepared.</p>
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		<title>By: taryl</title>
		<link>http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2013/02/14/love-relationships-and-financial-harmony/comment-page-1/#comment-3284491</link>
		<dc:creator>taryl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 19:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like what my husband &amp; I do - Joint accounts for household expenses and savings. Separate accounts for a little personal money and personal spending decisions.  Not a new idea but to each his own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like what my husband &amp; I do &#8211; Joint accounts for household expenses and savings. Separate accounts for a little personal money and personal spending decisions.  Not a new idea but to each his own.</p>
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