I chose not to due to the absurdity of the original example, changing from a 50 person company to a 70 person company just to generate a $ figure big enough to be more than the wage someone would earn if they worked at the 50 person company. It was almost strawman in its design.
In regards to the example and the claim it was absurd. Perhaps I should restate this law will create fewer jobs in the private sector and more jobs in the public sector. Okay let’s take Company Y - a company of exactly 50 people. That would be $37,500 in fines at the end of the year. I’m sure we could all agree that is an average (or below) starting salary in the U.S. This means I, as a student out of college for example, would not get this job in the private sector. Instead, what you’re saying is this job would be provided by the public sector (IRS). The issue here is the kind of job this would create. In my mind the job in the small business adds more value than the job with the IRS. Unless of course you’re in favor of big government. In which case I see your point that this will create jobs – in the public sector.
Jobs that do not really produce anything useful, add little value to the economy, and will not go away once they’re approved by the government system.
In any case these are good questions:
Besides, I thought you were a Christian? Isn't there something in that book you read about helping those less fortunate?
First, I support Health Care Reform – Just not the socialist agenda. There are over 300 passages dealing with helping the poor in the Bible. I believe most Christians help the poor. My family does. In fact I wonder how many people who are Christians or claim to be Christians give 5-15% or more of their income to charity… I wonder what the numbers are for those who do not claim Christianity. Curious.
Second, one of the 10 Commandments is “Do not steal.” This law takes, or mandates, that all taxpaying Americans have to contribute or pay a tax towards this health care system. This means a free ride for how many people? And who will pay for this? There are many passages (I can think of about 50, many of them in Proverbs off the top of my head) in the Bible dealing with working and laziness. To give someone a free handout like this doesn’t solve the issues that a majority of lower income families in America, who live beyond their means, do not save, budget, or generally handle money well. Also the lack of exercise, proper diet, etc. among lower income families is astounding.
Third, as a Christian another issue I personally have with this is healthcare shouldn’t be the job of the government. This is about faith in people and the free market as opposed to government. For me it also about faith in God. As a citizen of the U.S and a Christian it is my privilege to help others. It should be a privilege of the churches and other non-profit organizations - not the government. I’ve lived in places with socialized medicine and trust me we do not want that here in the U.S. Where I spend my money in helping others should be my choice. To me this is a forced “charity” which I have no say in whether to contribute to it or elsewhere. This is a forced re-distribution of wealth. If the American government can mandate this what is next? This becomes a slippery slope.
Fourth, it is interesting that you would bring up my values considering that from my perspective (and your previous posts) nothing I say concerning the Bible will be received.
Fifth, not to mention the Planned Parenthood issue…
Sixth, how many people in the U.S. are already on welfare?
Trust me I live around this and see it all the time in my neighborhood. I wonder how many people on this forum have ever been at or below the poverty level in the U.S. I work in this country for my income. I pay taxes. I came here at the age of 18 to pursue better education and a better life in the future for my family. However, many of my neighbors get free monthly checks from the government. A majority of my neighbors could probably work but rather live on food stamps and get a free ride. And don’t ask how many actually pay taxes… My concern is this law will just increase the amount of un-productive citizens in this country. This is one of the few countries in the world where poor people have air conditioning, cable, cell phones, free food (food stamps), housing at a discount (sometimes free??), and munch off of tax payers with a monthly check.
Canadians don't wait 23 hours in emergencies and Americans don't wait 4. SOME do. But in either country no one waits longer than they need to.
Perhaps I shouldn’t have used Canada as an example. It seemed fitting since it is America’s neighbor to the north. It was also an exaggeration. How about this: from experience I know in Brazil it takes an average of 9-15 hours for the free health care provided by the government in government run hospitals. The conditions in these free facilities are pathetic and the doctors/nurses are as well. The private hospitals takes about 1-3 hours and the quality is much better.
Bottom line is socialization of healthcare is not the answer.