Anyway, to the point: don't the statements above form a contradiction? If we choose to sin, it implies that we have a choice. And that in turn implies that we have free will, doesn't it?
Yes and no.
You have a choice to sin or not. Please don't confuse that with being tempted to sin. Nowhere in the Bible does it say you won't be tempted to sin. Jesus was even tempted by Satan.
Christians do not have free will. We were bought for a price. Free will & freedom of choice are entirely different things. If you tell your kids to clean their room or else because you said so, does that give them a choice to obey or not in your eyes? Yeah, they can disobey but at what cost?
There are two issues I see here in question:
Free will to resist temptation.
Free will to accept Jesus Christ as Savior.
I agree with Tightwad to a certain extent. Particularly on the choice to sin or not to sin. All people are tempted to sin and God does not tempt people. (James 1:13-14) But only those who are saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ are able to resist temptation with God’s help. (Heb. 2:18) God makes a way for Christians to overcome temptations. (1 Cor. 10:13) And it important to note that while Jesus was tempted by Satan Jesus didn’t fall into temptation.
Tightwad’s statement “Christians do not have free will.” comes from Reformation theology. However, the Bible does make a case for humans having a free will to choose.
1. God is absolutely sovereign. (Eph. 1:11)
2. God does whatever He wants and is unstoppable. (Psalm 115:3; Daniel 4:34-35)
3. Humans are morally responsible for their choices. See below…
“I call heaven and earth as witnesses today against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing; therefore choose
life, that both you and your descendants may live.” - Deuteronomy 30:19
“And if it seems evil to you to serve the LORD, choose
for yourselves this day whom you will serve, whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the River, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land you dwell. But as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.” - Joshua 24:14
“Go and cry out to the gods which you have chosen
; let them deliver you in your time of distress.” - Judges 10:14
“Envy thou not the oppressor, and choose
none of his ways.” - Proverbs 3:31
“Let Your hand become my help, For I have chosen
Your precepts.” - Psalm 119:173
“Seek the LORD while He may be found, Call upon Him while He is near.” - Isaiah 55:6
“So I say to you, ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened.
” - Luke 11:9-10
“For if I do this willingly
, I have a reward; but if against my will, I have been entrusted with a stewardship.” - 1 Cor. 9:17
“For if we sin willfully
after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries.” - Hebrews 10:26-27
I particularly believe there are valid arguments for both predestination and free will in the Bible.
For the record I agree with you on the gift of tongues.
Your thoughts Titghwad?